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Mass Effect 2 will reset Shepard's skills

Mass Effect 2 will reset Shepard's skills

Player skills and abilities will be completely reset for Mass Effect 2, though carrying savegames over is still worthwhile.

One of the most interesting features of Mass Effect and it's upcoming sequel is the fact that Bioware has laid down plans that allow players to carry their savegames over across the sequels and watch how choices play out on a multi-game basis. Unfortunately though, while Bioware still recommends that fans keep hold of their Mass Effect savegames, it seems that the main character will still be reset at the start of Mass Effect 2.

Speaking to Computerworld, Mass Effect 2 producer Casey Hudson confirmed that all of Shepard's abilities and skills will be completely reset at the start of the second game, though decisions you made in the first game will still be carried over.

The move has doubtlessly come about to help put fans of the original game on a level playing field with those making new characters and to stop players starting the game with every skill already maxed out. Still, it's a little disappointing to know that Shepard is going to have to retrain in biotic and weapon skills all over again, even if Bioware says the reset is incorporated into the story.

"There's something that's happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities," said Casey Hudson. "It's something we can't go into detail about for obvious reasons."

Whatever the reason for the reset is, it'll probably tie into the darker and grittier tone that Mass Effect 2 is said to be taking.

Mass Effect 2 is currently down for a 2010 release and looks to be a departure from the style of the original game, possibly even with a multiplayer mode of some sort. Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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p3n 30th July 2009, 13:14 Quote
I can't actually remember how ME worked with regard to items, but iirc you won't be able to use certain items anymore? So basically the only thing carried over (unless they dump you with 200 items to sell?) will be your choices and who died etc? Why the cryptic bs...
Bauul 30th July 2009, 13:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by p3n
I can't actually remember how ME worked with regard to items, but iirc you won't be able to use certain items anymore? So basically the only thing carried over (unless they dump you with 200 items to sell?) will be your choices and who died etc? Why the cryptic bs...

Fair enough to me, you'd split the playing base down the middle. Remember your choices have a huge effect on the game, everything from who lives to who's in control of the galaxy at the end.
WildThing 30th July 2009, 13:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by p3n
So basically the only thing carried over (unless they dump you with 200 items to sell?) will be your choices and who died etc?

That's what I was thinking. I wonder what the default starting point will be though. Who will be dead/alive if you don't have your savegame, Ashlely/Kaidan/Wrex?

I think I actually have both savegame files from the 2 times I completed it, is it really going to be worth keeping them so I can play through ME2 again from a slightly different starting point after having completed it the first time?
Skiddywinks 30th July 2009, 13:30 Quote
It's settled then. I'm getting ME2 on PC. I got all the achievements on the Xbox version, and couldn't decide which version to go for now (since I have a gaming PC). If my 360 game save is only going to transfer decisions across, well, I can live without that to save some money on the game and have better graphics.
jezmck 30th July 2009, 13:34 Quote
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...and it's upcoming...

Tut tut Joe...
Claave 30th July 2009, 13:36 Quote
reset skills? Please Bioware, not another amnesia storyline... :(
liratheal 30th July 2009, 13:44 Quote
..Is anyone REALLY that shocked?

Really?

You didn't seriously expect them to let you start a new game with level 60 skills, did you?
MaverickWill 30th July 2009, 13:55 Quote
I'm a bit miffed about the whole "losing everything" point. I remember games like the Wizardry series let you carry over save games, and when you started, you had all your old kit (whether you could use it was another matter for your level) and enough XP to get to level 5. Maybe that's a better solution, or maybe I'm just a wuss who likes continuity beyond dead people.

Although, considering there's a Salarian scientist, a Krogan warrior, an assassin, and a planet full of hot blue women the likes of which William Shatner can normally be found cavorting with (plus "You're a human before a Spectre", etc, so there'll be plenty of non-blue wimminz), I can't see us actually "missing" anyone who may or may not have vanished.

And now for the funny side of that last statement!
In AD 2183, war was beginning.
Shepard: What happen?
Kaidan: Somebody set us up the bomb.
Joker: We get signal.
Shepard: What?
Joker: Main screen turn on
Shepard: It's you!
Saren: How are you gentlemen!
Saren: All your Ashley are belong to us!
Saren: She is on the way to destruction!
Shepard: What you say!!
Saren: She has no chance to survive make your time.
Saren: Ha ha ha ha....
Joker: Captain!!
Shepard: Take off every "ZIG!"
Shepard: You know what you doing.
Shepard: Move "ZIG!"
Shepard: For great justice.


And yes, I DID type that out.
cjoyce1980 30th July 2009, 13:59 Quote
maybe everyone will start at level 61......... more skills and powers to learn and pick up as the enermy is getting deadlier maybe????
MaverickWill 30th July 2009, 14:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by cjoyce1980
maybe everyone will start at level 61......... more skills and powers to learn and pick up as the enermy is getting deadlier maybe????

Well, the people who've got up to level 60 - I doubt they're gonna be playing on Casual, so level-scaling is in place...
I just wants me a Krogan, a Pistol, and Master Marksman, and then I can quite happily walk through the game. I reckon a 6-hour finish is possible on ME1 with those 3 things, so ME2 shouldn't be too bad. I just hope it's long enough, without dragging it out.

Oh, and as for amnesia, does anyone remember Kaidan's throwaway comment on the ship "If they give you the L3 biotics, one slip and you don't remember your own name"?... Just a thought...
pimlicosound 30th July 2009, 15:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by jezmck
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...and it's upcoming...

Tut tut Joe...

You should have put a comma after "Tut tut". If you're going to go after other people's grammar, you'd better make damn sure you don't make any slip-ups of your own! (I bet I get caught out now.)
thehippoz 30th July 2009, 15:09 Quote
slept with ashley but I didn't get any of the blue chicks or oxygen tank face.. she said something like get on the floor and give me 20 :D

kicked wrex in the face but I didn't want to.. the game was off the hook- played on crt with grain and it was like watching a movie.. hope they keep that effect

reset of skills doesn't bother me too much.. didn't backup the saves
Paradigm Shifter 30th July 2009, 15:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave
reset skills? Please Bioware, not another amnesia storyline... :(

Agreed.

It's been done to death, that particular plot idea.
Sifter3000 30th July 2009, 15:28 Quote
It doesn't have to be amnesia... Given all the crazy explosive stuff that happens at the end of ME there's more than enough scope for some kind of random energy wave to have happened and mysteriously wiped all your biotic/killathon skills....
Paradigm Shifter 30th July 2009, 15:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
It doesn't have to be amnesia... Given all the crazy explosive stuff that happens at the end of ME there's more than enough scope for some kind of random energy wave to have happened and mysteriously wiped all your biotic/killathon skills....

True.

I just think they'll go the easy route and say the Prothean beacon damaged his/her brain somehow and that, basically, is amnesia. ;)

Still, only playing the game will tell for sure, so I'm more than willing to be proven wrong. :D
g3n3tiX 30th July 2009, 15:52 Quote
Or in the new teaser, when you see Shepard with a ghet's head.
Could be the reason...
Lepermessiah 30th July 2009, 15:53 Quote
I found the choices in ME were lame and had basically no bearing on anything except a couple with regards to the main strory, the vast majority did nothing excpet got a different response from a NPC. Hope ME2 is better in this aspect, it was way overrated in ME1.
Xtrafresh 30th July 2009, 16:23 Quote
personally i think shephard's persona will be transported to some sort of Geth or other machine lifeform.
antaresIII 30th July 2009, 16:42 Quote
I helped myself with the extensive use of the command console to avoid their stipid characher "design bucket" and create a Shepard of my own. Added a super-protective suit (never needed since I play very slowly, strategically and carefully) since i don't like the God mode (load from previous save; jerk approach).

Antares
Claave 30th July 2009, 18:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
It doesn't have to be amnesia... Given all the crazy explosive stuff that happens at the end of ME there's more than enough scope for some kind of random energy wave to have happened and mysteriously wiped all your biotic/killathon skills....

True.

I just think they'll go the easy route and say the Prothean beacon damaged his/her brain somehow and that, basically, is amnesia. ;)

Still, only playing the game will tell for sure, so I'm more than willing to be proven wrong. :D

Yep, doesn't matter what it's called, it's still the tired old amnesia plot. Let's hope ME2's more like BG2 and lets you start at high level and configure a powerful character from the start.

Oh, hang on, that means a imprisoned-and-stripped-of-all-your-kit start, which has also been killed to death by games makers...

Still, as it's Bioware, maybe it'll be something new, or at least will be fun in spite of being cliché.
Veles 30th July 2009, 18:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by WildThing
That's what I was thinking. I wonder what the default starting point will be though. Who will be dead/alive if you don't have your savegame, Ashlely/Kaidan/Wrex?

I would have thought it would be by default as if you had done everything the good way. So the council are all there plus your commander dude as the minister (cos no-one would pick that ambassador dick head). Wrex would be alive, and seeing as the commander is male in all the promo stuff I'd guess maybe Ash would be the survivor.

Or maybe there will be a little recap video if you don't have a save game and at each point where there's a choice you get to choose which one to do.
Paradigm Shifter 31st July 2009, 13:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
Or maybe there will be a little recap video if you don't have a save game and at each point where there's a choice you get to choose which one to do.

That would be a fairly tidy way of doing it. I like it. :)
sub routine 31st July 2009, 14:49 Quote
*sigh* they better have some fancy new skills with some even fancier animations then!!
jezmck 31st July 2009, 17:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by pimlicosound
You should have put a comma after "Tut tut". If you're going to go after other people's grammar, you'd better make damn sure you don't make any slip-ups of your own! (I bet I get caught out now.)

I am ashamed to have missed that, but Joe is being paid to write.
Chocobollz 1st August 2009, 18:31 Quote
Being paid doesn't means that he is perfect. At least I understand 99.99% of what Joe have said.
Chocobollz 1st August 2009, 18:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by jezmck
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Originally Posted by pimlicosound
You should have put a comma after "Tut tut". If you're going to go after other people's grammar, you'd better make damn sure you don't make any slip-ups of your own! (I bet I get caught out now.)

I am ashamed to have missed that, but Joe is being paid to write.

Being paid doesn't means that he is perfect. At least I understand 99.99% of what Joe have said.
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