bit-tech.net | Modern Warfare 2 PC not delayed

Omnituens 19th October 2009, 11:11

Like anyone will believe anything Bowling says. Ever.

Cobalt 19th October 2009, 11:24

Just cancelled my pre-order earlier today. I'll buy it when dedicated server support is back in there so I guess I don't really care if its delayed or not.

oatey4519 19th October 2009, 11:51

Job good!!

It's a pain the dedicated server stuff
But people will still buy it.
Going down the console route & trying to stop pirates this way

bogie170 19th October 2009, 12:45

51265 and rising!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

It's a rather loud voice!

oatey4519 19th October 2009, 12:47

if this is changed its going to put a big delay on the game for surely..

that's a hell of a lot of people though.

bogie170 19th October 2009, 12:51

I reckon this will hit 100,000 by the end of the week if not mid-week!

Er-El 19th October 2009, 12:56

Only thing that bothers me aboute the release of this game is the ridiculously high RRP. There's no reason why it should be priced higher than other games. So I'll wait until price goes down and get it.

general22 19th October 2009, 13:00

How nice that he has replied when nobody cares about the PC version anymore

Mentai 19th October 2009, 13:21

I don't know anybody who cares about this game without dedicated server support anyway, so delays are irrelevant. I would love to find out if it was the developer or publishers decision. With the crap that Activision has been pulling lately it wouldn't surprise me if it were them, in which case this is the straw that broke the camels back for me. I won't be buying any more of their products if this isn't fixed (yes, unfortunately that includes blizzard). I'm sick of giving so much of my money to company's that don't care about the end user at all. If it was IW's decision, what the hell were they thinking? Even DICE is giving them crap (probably the best part of this situation).

NoMod 19th October 2009, 13:37

Who cares if it's on time or not - it won't be worth buying without dedicated server support. IW just killed the PC version of this game stone dead.

But they won't care, the hardcore gamers represent such a tiny proportion of sales compared to console/casual gamers that our boycoting the game will make f-all difference to thier profits.

dreamhunk 19th October 2009, 15:17

we are boycotting all actvision games and hardware companies that support consoles. Blizzard makes half of actvision income so they will care.

our target is AMD

dreamhunk 19th October 2009, 15:19

Iposted this last night on vg247

yea I know pc gamers are boycotting hardware companies that support consoles, big companies like AMD

we are boycotting all actvision games. We really love blizzard but actvision gets half their income from pc gamers that support blizzard.

boycotting COD is not enough because the game devs wouldnt care. We boycott the tooles they work on maybe the message will get across.

here is two links

news up date actvision trying to Silences Community

http://www.gamersnexus.net/component/content/article/47-newsfront1/221-iw-silences-community

http://kotaku.com/5384290/dice-makes-hay-with-dedicated-server-controversy

we now have 39 000 pc gamers please spread the word. hopefully we can get enough pc gamers to make an inpact with our dallor bills.

something that big companies only under stand money!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

here is the sorce

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2369799

frankly I am sick of drm,lies,sick of gamestop etc basicly big companies treating pc gamers like dirt!

So please spread the all over the world.WE need as meny pc gamers as we can to fight big comapnies

Combinho 19th October 2009, 15:20

Quote:

"Officially, no." replied Bowling, who wouldn't elaborate any more on the matter.

That'll be a, 'Yes, but we don't want to announce it yet. We're still trying to work out whether we'll drown it in the IWNet furore or let that die down first.'

Mentai 19th October 2009, 15:26

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk
we are boycotting hardware companies that support consoles.

our target is AMD

What? AMD don't support consoles, consoles support them. Without consoles paying for their chip manufacture intel would have an even stronger grip on the PC market and we as PC gamers would suffer with higher prices/worse products. I feel like it's very misguided to just hate consoles unilaterally, you should just hate that they aren't being treated as a separate market by devs. It has very little to do with the hardware or PC gamers would have had this strong an impotent rage 10 years ago.

dreamhunk 19th October 2009, 15:31

AMd has 80 percent of their hardware in consoles, plus the have a deal with microsoft.

Mentai 19th October 2009, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamhunk
AMd has 80 percent of their hardware in consoles, plus the have a deal with microsoft.

To what? Design another console chip? Again, AMD are doing their job which in turn gives them R&D funds to make PC products. THIS IS A GOOD THING. It does not matter what hardware consoles use, only that software developers/publishers like Activision treat PC gamers like consoletards. Boycotting AMD will do nothing, boycotting Activision will probably do nothing either, but there will at least be reason behind it.

bogie170 19th October 2009, 16:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPmWTpfbxI4

oatey4519 19th October 2009, 16:46

just so funny...
player left
its ok me can go back to Cod4... lol

FeRaL 19th October 2009, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamhunk
we are boycotting all actvision games and hardware companies that support consoles. Blizzard makes half of actvision income so they will care.

our target is AMD

Tool.

Er-El 19th October 2009, 18:17

This level of immaturity I'm seeing all over the web against Infinity Ward's MW2 has got to stop and is just plain embarrassing for the whole PC gaming crowd. Infinity Ward not supporting dedicated servers is not a real world crisis; Activision is a business who are offering us a new product... take it or leave it.

Frankly, I think it's irrelevant how many people take 5 minutes of their day to sign one of many of these petitions against this. As long as the PC version of the game makes a healthy profit they'll stick to their vision.

Another thing is that I feel that we could all be a bit more open minded about the new central matchmaking system. Of course I was shocked and resented this decision at first myself. But, I think we should wait and see how this new IW.Net system turns out and it could work out to be better for us all in the long run. Remember they never said that they've ruled out mods and IW.Net could constantly be updated to include new features such as user-mods (kind of like Youtube). And if you think about it realistically, it shouldn't affect clans at all (how do you suppose console clans deal without dedicated servers). So I know it's a big change, but we should all just wait (cancel your pre-orders if you like) until release and then make up your mind about it.

Lastly, people who were looking forward to Modern Warfare 2 until hearing this disappointing news should stop complaining about what they don't want (e.g. "OMG PC games are getting consolified, I hate consoles!") and if they ask for what they specifically do want then I believe Activision/IW will listen. Do you want the PC gaming market to keep getting bigger? I know I do, and if that means reducing piracy and bringing in new gamers by using Steam and a radically different user-friendly online system (this should also mean not having to hear f***ing illegitimate users playing their pirated copies on cracked servers) - great!

Interloper 19th October 2009, 18:21

Don't even get me started on how bull---t this is. I can deal with a delay in order for all the little teens to get their console versions first. I can deal with the $60.00USD price tag. But not supporting dedicated servers is downright deplorable.

bogie170 19th October 2009, 18:23

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Star*Dagger 19th October 2009, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Er-El
This level of immaturity I'm seeing all over the web against Infinity Ward's MW2 has got to stop and is just plain embarrassing for the whole PC gaming crowd. Infinity Ward not supporting dedicated servers is not a real world crisis; Activision is a business who are offering us a new product... take it or leave it.

Frankly, I think it's irrelevant how many people take 5 minutes of their day to sign one of many of these petitions against this. As long as the PC version of the game makes a healthy profit they'll stick to their vision.

Another thing is that I feel that we could all be a bit more open minded about the new central matchmaking system. Of course I was shocked and resented this decision at first myself. But, I think we should wait and see how this new IW.Net system turns out and it could work out to be better for us all in the long run. Remember they never said that they've ruled out mods and IW.Net coud constantly be updated to include new features such as user-mods (kind of like Youtube). And if you think about it realistically, it shouldn't affect clans at all (how do you suppose console clans deal without dedicated servers). So I know it's a big change, but we should all just wait (cancel your pre-orders if you like) until release and then make up your mind about it.

Lastly, people who were looking forward to Modern Warfare 2 until hearing this disappointing news should stop complaining about what they don't want (e.g. "OMG PC games are getting consolified, I hate consoles!") and if they ask for what they specifically do want then I believe Activision/IW will listen. Do you want the PC gaming market to keep getting bigger? I know I do, and if that means reducing piracy and bringing in new gamers by using Steam and a radically different user-friendly online system (this should also mean not having to hear f***ing illegitimate users playing their pirated copies on cracked servers) - great!

Can I get a job posting for large corporations who see PC Games as "a product we are offering"?

Well as least we have heard from the company directly!

Er-El 19th October 2009, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
Can I get a job posting for large corporations who see PC Games as "a product we are offering"?

Well as least we have heard from the company directly!

You've clearly missed the point I was trying to put across. Again, Activision are just a business and the number one thing they care about is profit. Course they care about the games too otherwise they wouldn't have chosen that industry over others, but money is the biggest concern over everything else.

And I was playing devil's advocate... *sigh* Maybe I need to start making it more obvious from now on. Besides, as I was saying IT IS just a luxury product and not some political issue. If you want it you take? You don't? Then don't buy. Simple economics really - it's not a democracy. Course everyone has the right to petition and put pressure on these companies, but again I'll point back to my original post.

Cobalt 19th October 2009, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Er-El
Quote:
Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
Can I get a job posting for large corporations who see PC Games as "a product we are offering"?

Well as least we have heard from the company directly!
You've clearly missed the point I was trying to put across. Again, Activision are just a business and the number one thing they care about is profit. Course they care about the games too otherwise they wouldn't have chosen that industry over everything else, but money is the biggest concern over everything else.

And I was playing devil's advocate... *sigh* Maybe I need to start making it more obvious from now on. Besides, as I was saying IT IS just a luxury product and not some political issue. If you want it you take? You don't? Then don't buy. Simple economics really - it's not a democracy. Course everyone has the right to petition and put pressure on these companies, but again I'll point back to my original post.

Yes it is a luxury product. And those products rely on the goodwill of customers. If we stop considering them as something to covet and enjoy then they loose their business.

I also feel that you missed out a big point in your original post. IW.Net is described to be exactly like the console style match-making service, which we already know about and understand. Unless they completely misrepresented the product they are delivering then people have a good reason not to like the changes. I have a 360 as well as a PC and I don't use it to play online games precisely because I don't like the match-making system (in addition to the controller), so when that system comes to the PC I have a right to be suspicious.

I'll probably still buy the game in the end because I enjoy the single player experience of those. But that content alone isn't worth the current asking price. It needed the MP for me to want it now so I'll hold off in the mean time.

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