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No Modern Warfare 2 demo or beta
Author: Joe MartinPublished: 29th September 2009
Activision has confirmed that there'll be no demo or beta for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. At all. Ever.
The confirmation came via the official Infinity Ward twitter, which claimed that the entire development team was focused on getting the game ready to ship.
"No plan for a Demo before launch," the team tweeted. "The entire team is focused on polish all the way up to ship of the full game."
The announcement will likely come as a disappointment to many, since the original Modern Warfare had an incredibly popular demo that helped increase awareness about the game. Then again, Modern Warfare had to prove that it was distinct from the previous games in the series, whereas the hype for Modern Warfare 2 is so massive that a demo likely wouldn't help much.
The lack of a demo might pose a problem to some fans however, especially if they're wondering if the game can possibly be worth the inflated £55 GBP price.
As games and gaming hardware continue to rise in price and budgets, we're personally of the opinion that more games should have demos - not less. Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
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Sure, forfeit the demo, blame the pirates, your pricing has nothing to do with it :D
First a prohibitively high price, and now, no demo... I guess that means that it will be summer 2010 before I get a copy; once I've seen lots of reviews and gameplay clips, and once the price has dropped to an acceptable level...
Seriously how hard is it for them to relase a demo? They make it sound like they would have to build it from scratch.
The irony here is that we have a game developers moaning about piracy yet doing everything in their power to indirectly aid piracy (increased price, no demo (beta etc), excessive DRM, buggy pathetic console ports... I could go on...)
No demo, why would they? everyone with a 360 will have no issue forking over 80 bucks to play this yearly update to COD which plays identical to last years verison.
They're just cashing in on MW1, so unless it's awesome there's gonna be hell to pay.
No, I lol, at most hype for Triple AAA multi-platform games these days, reviews, hype aere so bogus now it is not funny, look at GTa 4, 10/10 across the board, lmao, no way. Gaming journalism is at an all-time low. This game in particular is over board with its hype, considering how decidely average the games really are.
Doesn't rule out a demo when the game has been released, so hopefully people will still be able to try before buying
Some I buy immediately (Left 4 Dead, World of Goo, etc), others I buy after some months (Dirt, TimeShift, etc).
There are also games that I lose interest after trying the demo (Zeno Clash, Batman Arkham Asylum, etc).
So, MW2 having no demo means I will probably buy it only when the price drops, if the game gets good gamers reviews.
PS:
Who decided they're average? You?
For all its bad points, the first MW was fun, and it was fun for a long time going by the amount off time I put into it. There's not a lot of games I can say that about.
I eventually got bored of the first one though, so if this one offers more of the same with a similar level of replayability then it will be well worth my £30.
I don't pay attention to hype, nor should anyone with enough sense. It just means more disappointment when you read the review and it turns out to be crap. However, it's inevitable all the big games are gong to get hyped up, and it's usually not without reason.
I wish these big companies wouldn't lie. I have no problem with them wanting to make dlc and not a demo, but the fact they lie about it for no reason makes consumers distrust them. That was EAs problem. I guess its just the curse of being the biggest publisher.
No demo, no sale (at least for me.)
Information surrounding games is so numerous and readily available these days that, unlike days or yore, you can usually learn a huge amount about a game without playing a demo. True, for some unknowns, or for genres you're not used to, they can be vital, but I guarantee everyone here knows, more or less, exactly what MW2 will play like. Who needs a demo?
Edit: Come to think of it, is there anyone on here that bought MW1 but won't be buying 2? I know there are a few people on here that think it's pants, but did any of you actually purchase it?
I was bought MW as a gift for Christmas 07 and I have to say, was pleasantly surprised at how fun I found both single player and multiplayer. The only reason I stopped playing was because I lost all the levelling I had made in multiplayer after a reformat (they had better keep that server side this time).
There are a few games out this year I care about more than MW2, but I will be picking it up once I see it on sale. I still feel like it's more justified as a sequel than L4D2, and I'd bet anything that it sells more than the original.
This may well actually be Activision's sentiments... however, it's a dangerous game to play. Such arrogance isn't usually rewarded.
MW, developed my Infinity Ward, was a good game. In I'm fully expecting MW2 to be a good game. However, I don't trust Activision - why on earth did they call Treyarch back for CoD5??
I'm not going to spend hard-earned money on an unknown, especially when the publisher is trying hard to drive prices up. If I don't get a demo, I have to waited for detailed pro reviews followed by user reviews - now, I don't mind waiting... the longer I wait the cheaper it will be.
But Q4 is the busiest time of the year for sales, and consequently, lots of publishers release their biggest games during this period. So if I can't rely on MW2, I'm going to spend my money on one of the many other AA/A titles that I'm waiting to launch.
It's Activision's call entirely; I have absolutely no loyalty with them or to the franchise - it's just one of many good ones on the market. If they p*ss me about, my money will go to one of the other companies who expended some extra effort to accommodate me.
It's a buyer's market.
They do it on an alternating basis so it gives each developer 2 years dev time for each game, which means that (theoretically at least) each game should be of a decent standard and sufficiently advanced from the last in the series while still being able to release one every year.
Obviously most people would prefer to have a better game once every 2/3 years than having to buy one each year, but Activision knows the CoD sells like the proverbial hot cakes, so it's understandable that they'd want to make as much profit from the series while it's still popular and people are still buying it. Give it another few years and I think people will become bored with this strategy and they'll have to try something different (I can't think of any other game series apart from sports sims that release a new title every single year without fail), but for now it shows no sign of stopping.
A noble aspiration, except that the Infinity Ward versions are the good versions, and the Treyarch versions are the weak ones. The franchise is positively schizophrenic! There is no continuity from one game to the next.
But as you stated, I don't think Activision have finished milking this cash-cow just yet...
No really, a demo does nothing for most game type to tell you anything about whether you like a game or not, just not enough game time.
As for batman, your nuts if you didnt like that game, the demo is poor compared to the game itself, case in point, the story, characters, hidden things to find, combat, gadgets, you get almost none of that in the demo.
Yup, Demos are overrated, ther eis more then enough to know whether I will like a game or not, I have never payed for a game i didn't like, plenty of info around.
naive FTW, the games are Mainstream filler, hyped as being realistic when it is a dumbed down arcade shooter. If you think these games are hyped up based off of content your more naive then i thought, the game industry is the only one around where its reviews are done by the same companies who profit from advertising dolalrs from such hyped games. 10/10 for GTA 4, lol, need I say more.
I couldn't agree with you less. I prefer the the SP far more than the MP.
Sam
I don't think I've ever heard the claim of a CoD game being realistic, they are clearly arcade shooters. That doesn't mean they're terrible, and a lot of people like that a lot more than realism. This campaign against dumbing down of gaming I can get behind to a certain extent (eg system shock to bioshock), but CoD has always been CoD. It has earned its reputation on its own merits, and when 13 million people enjoy something and you feel at odds with it you shouldn't cry foul. Yes it is mainstream, yes it is arcadey, yes there should be realistic alternatives, and there are. You just sound bitter that they aren't popular enough.
In terms of GTA4, first of all most companies separate their marketing and journalist side completely, simply to avoid that integrity issue. I also agree that it should have not received a 10/10. It had many flaws but to be fair so does any game of that sheer scope. You have to remember that positive reviews are inherent of an enthusiast press. Most GTA4 reviews would have been made by fans of the GTA series as head editors often first dibs on the games they really want, and as the biggest and by far most visually impressive GTA initial impressions are going to be glowing.
I have to wonder though why you place such emphasis on review scores. Is there a GTA clone you thought was much better than GTA4? Because as far as I can see, GTA4 is by far the most impressive attempt at the genre it's in, which some would assume means it is deserving of a 10/10. If you don't like the genre, then should high metacritic scores matter to you? I don't knock high sports game scores just because I will never enjoy them. You should be able to conclude whether you enjoy a game or not based on the text of the review, not the score. If that's not the case, you need to find a different website to read. There's got to be at least one other games reviewer out there with a similar mindset to you.
Just out of curiosity, how would you have made the stealth and combat mechanics more PC centric?
Fail.
There is nothing about the game that screams 'realistic military simulator'. Nothing. And I have never heard it being touted as such, not by the developers, press or fans. That's not why I buy the games. I know they're arcade shooters, and yet I still buy them. Because they're fun. Apparently, 13 million people agree with me. Arcade shooter =/= crap in the same was as realistic shooter =/= awesome.
If I want realism, I'll get ARMA II or OFP 2, thanks (which I am planning to do, BTW).
No it isn't. How else could they make an action adventure game non-consolated? Doesn't even make sense, thet gameplay is outstanding, and the demo only shows a fraction of the gamepklay possibilites, lots of stuff missing, lots.
Fail? UI fail at reading, I sai it is NOT realistic at all, just is hyped by IW to be, Learn some comprehension and come back please.
The ole, I have nothing so Ill bring up sales which mena nothing argument. The SALES only show how the game is castrated for the masses. Sales do not mean quality, as we often see, just look at movies and music, tonnes od examples. games are becoming the same more main streamm appeal so 12 yr olds can play and have a blast without thought.
LOL, exactly, u can't, he is just throwing crap on the wall hoping it sticks.
IW described it as 'intense', but they don't refer it is as 'realistic' - citations, please.
Wind your neck in....
Wrong, many times it is hyped in videos as a realistic experience, I ahve seen videos and interviews with them saying this, and many consoe, morons will say how realistic it is LMAO.
Hehe, that last comment is particularly ironic given you don't seem to be able to string a comprehensible sentence together.
Anyway, you merely said it was 'hyped as being realistic'. I said it was isn't (find me proof that IW have marketed this as a realistic shooter), and that almost every one who bought the game did so with the full understanding that it isn't. Given that was your main complaint about the game, and the only specific one, then my comment was entirely relevant to what you said.
Do you mean to say that it is too consolified for your tastes?
Because 'aconsolated', if it were actually a word, would mean 'not consolated' with the addition of the 'a':
a-
A prefix meaning "without" or "not" when forming an adjective (such as amorphous, without form, or atypical, not typical)
Well I've just been to the www.callofduty.com and http://modernwarfare2.infinityward.com but I'm struggling to find the word realistic used anywhere... Citations pls - No 'console morons' don't count.
I'm sorry, but you seem to be the one with the naive point of view here. I'm going to give you another shot at wording that if you want, because I really can't believe your argument is that it's crap because it is one of the best selling games of all time. That's just a logic fail on so many levels. First off, they would have had to make it 'crap' before it even sold any copies. And do you really think that all those 13 million sales came from braindead 12 year olds? Well, I have a newsflash for you: popular games can be good, no matter how much you seem to think otherwise. Did it not occur to you that's why they're popular?
It seems this is just another case of 'I don't like it, so it must be crap and everyone else must be wrong'. Way to think outside of the box, kid :(
Also, I have seen MW touted as realistic BUT only in the context of graphics and setting, never gameplay.
Cant argue with stupid, did i say all sales were from 12 yr olds? No, but a lot did, as did most come from the CONSOLE crowd. Did I say it was crap? Again, u cannot even fathom simple sentences, I said it was average, OK, not crap. Did I say they cannot be good? once again, cant read and putting words in peoples mouths.
Sales do NOT equate quality, thats a fact, unless u think the best selling music today is high quality, just the type of fluff the masses like, Just like main stream games, at least most of the, your brainwashed to sheep, bah, bah.
Did I say i didnt like it? Again, reading and comprehensing goes a long way, the games are OK, I enjo them, but, not even close to the hype, crazy hype about them, they are fairly average, with in many areas is very limited, stale, out dated gameplay. I mean come on, endless spawnign enemies and trigger points in levels that are some of the most linear in recent memory? please.
Their immense popularity took off once the console tards got a look at a decent online shooter, same as gaylo. I have a 360 By the way, if it walks like a duck................... It is not just popular, but held in the highest regard like gaming royalty, that is the point, and the game is nothing out of the ordinary at all. Baah, Baaah
Moronic, and grasping at straws, Pc games have had these things since the 8o's, or you expect gamers to be telepathic and know what to do with help from the game? get real snob. It is nothing like Splinter Cell, that is moronic. Glad I do not suck the fun out of games like you, can can say that about evbery game ever made, Pc included, take a break from gaming, you do not know how to enjoy them.
Sorry you wasted your time, 3 paragraphs of crap is still crap. Could have summed up your rambling incoherence in a couple of sentences. You have never seen it so it must be so? MMM, ignorance really is bliss. Over the years they have advertised COD games as the closest you will get to being in combat, not just CoD4, but the older COD games as well.
It's not a fact at all. It's an opinion. I agree it does happen to be the case some of the time (WoW for example), but that's the exception rather than the norm. You just can't get it out of your head that if more than one person thinks something is good, they're all just copying each other and buy it because everyone else is, just to be popular. Not everyone works like that. The world isn't a cliché.
I don't, but that's because I don't happen to like the genre on music most people listen to (it's called Pop, or popular music, for a reason). However, I do happen to like the best selling artists within my favoured genre. They don't make stuff 'for the masses', but they sell records because they're good.
Why can't you just enjoy things for what they are. If you like something, fine. If you don't, fine. You're welcome to have your say, but stop trying to shove your cynical world-view down other people's throats and question people's motives for liking the things they do.
MW2 uses an updated version of the engine used in the first game, so they won't run the same.
See the thing about summing up points into a couple of sentences is that it very rarely actually proves said points, it just states an opinion without backup. In any debate that comes across as obnoxious at best and, if objectionable enough, garners accusations of being a troll. You seem to have mastered it though.
Loving the use of "Gaylo" btw.
Besides, I'm enjoying the arguments, don't stop now!
Each to their own, I prefer to be taught as I play rather than having a specific training session personally. I'm not trying to argue with you at all btw, just trying to understand your point of view. I enjoy both PC and console games, which is convenient now that most PC games feel like console ones. I just exclusively game on PC because I hate paying for online support and enjoy being able to up the graphical fidelity and fps of my favourite games as time goes on. Even used a 360 gamepad and moved my monitor so I could play batman lying down haha.