bit-tech.net | Sony responds to Activision's threats

cjoyce1980 22nd June 2009, 11:29

until we see the PS3 slim they wont be a price cut as that box is too costly to manufacture.

i do hope sony does get a good kicking this gen, because its the kick in the arse they need.

rollo 22nd June 2009, 11:33

not really sure anyone cares enough

Activision blizzards biggest game is wow, Which will never get a console port. Call of duty and gh are meh titles. Rockband kicks ghs arse about 100 times over. COD is one overhyped game at best

would activision really stop producing for a console that has 3million sales of cod 4, 3million lost sales = lose lose. Sony as a company are just like microsoft both need there arses kicking around the block a few times.

my guess activision wants more developer help

mjm25 22nd June 2009, 11:35

Sony is being quite arrogant in regards to the PS3 but then it's not exactly gonna admit its console is struggling, shareholders don't like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ratner

M_D_K 22nd June 2009, 11:49

bit more PS3 bashing lol, I have to admit i've only seen the bad side of that thing ever since launch.

So PS4??

Psytek 22nd June 2009, 12:42

it's too expensive because they built it wrong, they need to drop the price to gain Market share, but to do that they'd have to remove/cut down on parts, it's a catch 22 and I think they are kind of stuck down this path. I just hope they learn their lesson that people don't love Sony, they love whichever console has the best games and the most reasonable price. I think they decided in their arrogant minds that the success of ps1/ps2 was brand related, but as xbox and 360 proved, ppl will move to a new brand if the price is right and the games are good.

Skiddywinks 22nd June 2009, 13:56

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Originally Posted by rollo
not really sure anyone cares enough

Activision blizzards biggest game is wow, Which will never get a console port. Call of duty and gh are meh titles. Rockband kicks ghs arse about 100 times over. COD is one overhyped game at best

would activision really stop producing for a console that has 3million sales of cod 4, 3million lost sales = lose lose. Sony as a company are just like microsoft both need there arses kicking around the block a few times.

my guess activision wants more developer help

Who cares what you think about CoD and GH? Last time I checked, it is all about sales, and those two franchises are incredibly good sellers. If the PS3 were to lose them, a LOT of people would have no reason to buy a PS3.

ssj12 22nd June 2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
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Originally Posted by rollo
not really sure anyone cares enough

Activision blizzards biggest game is wow, Which will never get a console port. Call of duty and gh are meh titles. Rockband kicks ghs arse about 100 times over. COD is one overhyped game at best

would activision really stop producing for a console that has 3million sales of cod 4, 3million lost sales = lose lose. Sony as a company are just like microsoft both need there arses kicking around the block a few times.

my guess activision wants more developer help

Who cares what you think about CoD and GH? Last time I checked, it is all about sales, and those two franchises are incredibly good sellers. If the PS3 were to lose them, a LOT of people would have no reason to buy a PS3.

GH is losing ground to Rock Band.

COD is the only thing Activision has that would affect anything. Sadly for them COD4 and COD5 didn't spike PS3 sales so it wouldnt affect PS3 sales at all.

leexgx 22nd June 2009, 15:44

is it the download charge per MB for downloading patches that Activision is talking about ?

Saivert 22nd June 2009, 16:55

So what are you guys saying? That Activision is just a sad distributor who doesn't have any impact on anything?
What's all the fuss then? Sony can just ignore this like they do with everything and the world moves on.

Sorry If I don't understand something. I can't stand all this geek drama.

kenco_uk 22nd June 2009, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
Who cares what you think about CoD and GH?

Because this is a public forum?

The best CoD was 2 :)

Activision = someone call the waahmbulance.

wafflesomd 22nd June 2009, 17:10

Also plays games.

TurtlePerson2 22nd June 2009, 20:07

They made all the wrong decisions when designing the system. They spent most of their time trying to have the best processor ever, but everyone here knows that games are usually GPU bound not CPU bound. They used Blu-Ray and it has still yet to catch on. And now they won't cut price because they're not willing to lose money on the front end.

They need to look at Microsoft and see that you sell the console for cheap then sell four or five games each year to make your money.

And as a response to an earlier comment, Activision is probably the most important developer out there. The CoD games print money because they're a lot of fun. GH games may not be as great as RB (I have RB not GH), but they're still more popular, so they're incredibly relevant. The real threat is that the other studios follow, like EA. Without the EA Sports games PS3 will really be sunk.

Finally, I have a PS3.

HourBeforeDawn 22nd June 2009, 21:13

Well in response to Turtle, I think the Bluray drive was a good move for a few reasons, one they dont have to worry about game capacity, and ya having a bluray drive to watch movies is a nice plus, I also like the fact you can use any 2.5 sata hdd and just format it unlike on the 360. Personally I find the PS3 more "upgrade" friendly and have more of chance of expansion over that of the 360, hell there is even a kit legally sold for the PS3 to install and use Linux on it. I consider the PS3 to be a cheap Home Theater PC for most respects.

Elton 22nd June 2009, 21:51

This is like a constant chess game where the goal is to see which player will bang their head onto the board first.

Skiddywinks 22nd June 2009, 22:15

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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Well in response to Turtle, I think the Bluray drive was a good move for a few reasons, one they dont have to worry about game capacity, and ya having a bluray drive to watch movies is a nice plus, I also like the fact you can use any 2.5 sata hdd and just format it unlike on the 360. Personally I find the PS3 more "upgrade" friendly and have more of chance of expansion over that of the 360, hell there is even a kit legally sold for the PS3 to install and use Linux on it. I consider the PS3 to be a cheap Home Theater PC for most respects.

I am pretty sure you can make a cheap HTPC for cheaper than the PS3, and likely superior as well.

trig 22nd June 2009, 22:41

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Originally Posted by rollo
not really sure anyone cares enough

Activision blizzards biggest game is wow, Which will never get a console port. Call of duty and gh are meh titles. Rockband kicks ghs arse about 100 times over. COD is one overhyped game at best

would activision really stop producing for a console that has 3million sales of cod 4, 3million lost sales = lose lose. Sony as a company are just like microsoft both need there arses kicking around the block a few times.

my guess activision wants more developer help

lol...disciple of the following i suppose...

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Originally Posted by ssj12
GH is losing ground to Rock Band.

COD is the only thing Activision has that would affect anything. Sadly for them COD4 and COD5 didn't spike PS3 sales so it wouldnt affect PS3 sales at all.

losing ground? lol...i wonder what its like to say things without knowing what you're talking about and just believe it's true...let me try...the wii is made of sugar and will fart pixie dust when it overheats. pc's will be obsolete in 8 months and will be replaced by flying monkeys with keyboards on their butts. my wife looks like olivia newton-john in her 20's and size doesnt matter to her...

man, this is fun...

Elton 22nd June 2009, 22:53

There's only 1 word to describe the awesomeness of trig's post:

OWNED.

HourBeforeDawn 22nd June 2009, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I am pretty sure you can make a cheap HTPC for cheaper than the PS3, and likely superior as well.

ehh not really, $399 for PS3 with blu-ray playback.

You couldnt build an HTPC with blu-ray play black for that much well if you did it all legally and by that I mean not pirating the OS or the Software to play bluray. The Bluray drive is going to be around 100.00, the OS and software is going to be around 150-200, so your at 300 already and you havent even gotten into the HDD, Mobo, CPU, Ram, PSU, Case. So ya I will stick with my statement when I say the PS3 is a decent low end HTPC.

Joeymac 23rd June 2009, 01:11

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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I am pretty sure you can make a cheap HTPC for cheaper than the PS3, and likely superior as well.

ehh not really, $399 for PS3 with blu-ray playback.
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In the UK it's £290/$473

HourBeforeDawn 23rd June 2009, 01:26

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Originally Posted by Joeymac
In the UK it's £290/$473

lol so I guess you didnt catch location on under my user name ;) ya Im in the USA.

Joeymac 23rd June 2009, 01:47

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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
lol so I guess you didnt catch location on under my user name ;) ya Im in the USA.

I saw that, I was just telling you, you got the price wrong ;)

HourBeforeDawn 23rd June 2009, 02:19

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Originally Posted by Joeymac
I saw that, I was just telling you, you got the price wrong ;)

where do you live? the PS3 new in most retail stores in the states is $399 so no I didnt get the price wrong.

Elton 23rd June 2009, 02:25

Did anyone notice the : "Actually says very little though" remark under the title of this article in the home page?

Saivert 23rd June 2009, 03:12

what does it matter if it's $399 or $473. It's still cheaper than a complete LEGALLY purchased HTPC built from the ground up.
PCs are more expensive than consoles and will always be.

Skiddywinks 23rd June 2009, 11:54

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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I am pretty sure you can make a cheap HTPC for cheaper than the PS3, and likely superior as well.

ehh not really, $399 for PS3 with blu-ray playback.

You couldnt build an HTPC with blu-ray play black for that much well if you did it all legally and by that I mean not pirating the OS or the Software to play bluray. The Bluray drive is going to be around 100.00, the OS and software is going to be around 150-200, so your at 300 already and you havent even gotten into the HDD, Mobo, CPU, Ram, PSU, Case. So ya I will stick with my statement when I say the PS3 is a decent low end HTPC.

$150-$200 on OS and software? What are you smoking? OEM version of Windows 7 (or even just use the RC for a good few months at no cost). The OEM version of Vista I got was £60. Blu Ray drives are about £50 here, so you are looking at £110 for the OS and drive. Hardly the $300 you seem to be set on.

rollo 23rd June 2009, 12:01

I own all 3 trig not a fan person each has there plus and negative , price is prohitive for all consoles , a price reduce would do 1thing increase the sales as a media center £200 ish fora media center that also plays games quite a bargain

NeedlesKane 23rd June 2009, 13:10

and in comes a typical twit, 360>ps3.... when its working that is.

trig 23rd June 2009, 13:13

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Originally Posted by rollo
I own all 3 trig not a fan person each has there plus and negative , price is prohitive for all consoles , a price reduce would do 1thing increase the sales as a media center £200 ish fora media center that also plays games quite a bargain

i hear ya.

still dont own an xbox 360 myself, cant use the controller after so many years of sony consoles...i go over to a buddies house here and there and get owned at halo and r6 vegas, and i rock vegas on pc lol...so humbling...

and thank you elton...i thought it was funny...

HourBeforeDawn 23rd June 2009, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
$150-$200 on OS and software? What are you smoking? OEM version of Windows 7 (or even just use the RC for a good few months at no cost). The OEM version of Vista I got was £60. Blu Ray drives are about £50 here, so you are looking at £110 for the OS and drive. Hardly the $300 you seem to be set on.

lol you ur so funny, it kinda cute seeing how hard your trying to fight the htpc thing and yes $150-200 American, notice how I used this $ symbol NOT £ that symbol lol, look at where I live, Im not going to waste my time converting it to your currency... but you still forgot the software to play the blu-ray movies, oh what do you know add that in to what your saying using your money system and that brings it up closer to the $300 (American) and again my point still is right because you STILL didnt include the rest of the hardware so even still your going over the cost of the PS3, but hey an A for effort. ;)

b5k 23rd June 2009, 19:00

On the issue of price, I can get a PS3 for £210 or an XBox360 for £130. One's got free internet services and the other has a successful game that needs you to spend £100 or so to fully experience and will cost you money to play online...

Easy choice imo. PS3 is king.

trig 23rd June 2009, 19:24

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Originally Posted by b5k
On the issue of price, I can get a PS3 for £210 or an XBox360 for £130. One's got free internet services and the other has a successful game that needs you to spend £100 or so to fully experience and will cost you money to play online...

Easy choice imo. PS3 is king.

free online play is a big selling point. i just wonder where the ps3 sales numbers would be right now if they were at $300. i bet it would go through the roof.

rollo 23rd June 2009, 22:28

skiddywinks in uk £ then build a htpc that can play blueray movies for less than the £300 the ps3 costs. Vista win7 in a htpc ? waste of hardware resources to run crap that you dont need. With full links to all hardware and software used. this i must see and im pretty sure alot would love to see it done.

overclockers used as site
cheapest blueray drive is £53. vista home premium is £82, Win 7 is free correct but you still gonna have to buy an OS by march 2010 which is when it starts shutting down every 2hrs. so you cant just deduct the os price away.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2009/06/02/what-hardware-should-i-buy/2

add that to this, Which is as cheap a pc as they come tbh. Replace dvd drive with blueray and the total comes to about £500. You could use cheaper parts i guess get it below £400 but, Would it output in 1080? with acceptable fps. One of the tech heads here would answer that question.

me has my douts.

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