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Phobya reveals case designed by bit-tech modder

Phobya reveals case designed by bit-tech modder

SnowyOwl's design concept 'Black Owl' can finally be seen in the flesh.

Just over a year ago we teamed up with water-cooling and modding manufacturer Phobya to ask for your help in designing the perfect case for water-cooling.

We had dozens of fantastic entries and any one of the final four would have made a superb case. However, in the end it was SnowyOwl's design called Black Owl that won, thanks to a combination of fantastic looks as well as awesome water-cooling potential.

It's taken a while to create something physical from the designs, though, as is usually the way with creating a new product. The images below aren't of the finished article either - instead they're the first 'alpha' build of the case.

As such the final product will have a different finish but we're sure you'll agree that the case looks absolutely stunning.

Phobya has had to deal with a few issues during its rigorous testing phase and is currently working to fix them. It has also needed to deal with making completely new tooling to construct the various sections of the case, with this taking up a significant amount of time. However it was keen to show that progress has been made and that the case now exists in physical form.

Phobya told us that the 'beta' version will be ready in about six to eight weeks time at which point they'll be sending out samples for testing.

You can check out the final voting round here and for now we'll leave you with the latest images that Phobya has sent us.

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What do you think of Phobya's new case? Let us know in the forum.

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confusis 18th April 2011, 08:49 Quote
Gladio Cheeeeeeeeeesecake!
dispie 18th April 2011, 08:55 Quote
Black Owl by SnowyOwl
Xtrafresh 18th April 2011, 08:58 Quote
Roboduck for me! The angular design and the brilliant HDD placement win me over :)
matee 18th April 2011, 09:14 Quote
II by Roboduck for the innovative radiator placement!
Parge 18th April 2011, 09:21 Quote
I have to say, all these cases have such a ridiculous amount of fans they are all going to sound like jet engines. All of them were great looking, but in the end I went for Black owl because it offers something a bit different.
balatro2005 18th April 2011, 09:23 Quote
That was hard to choose but finally went with black owl by snowy owl.
GuilleAcoustic 18th April 2011, 09:26 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parge
I have to say, all these cases have such a ridiculous amount of fans they are all going to sound like jet engines. All of them were great looking, but in the end I went for Black owl because it offers something a bit different.

The amount of fans doesn't set the noise level. More fans allow lower speed, and thus help decreasing the noise level.
nathandanielmorris 18th April 2011, 09:26 Quote
Only one winner for me - Black Owl by SnowyOwl.
M7ck 18th April 2011, 09:29 Quote
Proteus is the one that I would buy, although I would be more than happy with all four of the finalists.
GuilleAcoustic 18th April 2011, 09:35 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by confusis
Gladio Cheeeeeeeeeesecake!

Same for me ;). They all have something that I like, and I would be happy with all of them. However, Gladio is the one that matches my taste and use the more (who said I like big case :D)
amagriva 18th April 2011, 10:03 Quote
Can't beleive the black owl is winning... It's a hammered Apple g5!
GuilleAcoustic 18th April 2011, 10:15 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by amagriva
Can't beleive the black owl is winning... It's a hammered Apple g5!

Except the handles that reminds of the G5, It's really not a G5 ! If I think the same way, all case from all brand are all plagiarism of the first tower case ever build !!!

The innards are very different from the one of a G5. Unless you try something really new, you'll always end up with a case that looks like another one.
scott_chegg 18th April 2011, 10:20 Quote
Black Owl all the way!
perplekks45 18th April 2011, 10:33 Quote
Proteus for me. Close second was Black Owl.
mkb 18th April 2011, 10:38 Quote
Proteus really does have everything you would need but for me the Black Owl is a little more practical and stylish so Black Owl has my vote with Proteus closely second should a monstrous cooling set up be needed.
GiantKiwi 18th April 2011, 10:53 Quote
As it has been the entire way through, black owl for me, because while the other cases are good, its a damn sight more practical
halfinched 18th April 2011, 11:00 Quote
Phobya Gladio +1
Saltire35 18th April 2011, 11:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathandanielmorris
Only one winner for me - Black Owl by SnowyOwl.

+1

Absolutely stunning !
veato 18th April 2011, 11:21 Quote
I really like Black Owl. Apart from the tag line "just fear it". That makes me cringe.
Ending Credits 18th April 2011, 11:25 Quote
Black Owl is truly stunning.

But it doesn't look like it's designed with watercooling in mind while the other two are too large so my vote has to got to II as it looks truly innovative as well as practical.
SMIFFYDUDE 18th April 2011, 11:47 Quote
Black Owl for me
Gladio needs its own room its so big.
Phifty Cal 18th April 2011, 12:09 Quote
Black Owl. It looks the least ridiculous :p
Big Elf 18th April 2011, 12:19 Quote
If I was voting for looks then I'd go for Black Owl. However voting for the best watercooling case it would have to be Proteus then Gladius, II and Black Owl.
Marvin-HHGTTG 18th April 2011, 12:21 Quote
II for me. Black Owl takes too many styling cues from the G5 for me, whilst the others are so massive there's not that much innovation - any massive case would be good for watercooling, while the other two are a more manageable size.
matt_lumley 18th April 2011, 12:29 Quote
Gotta go Black owl!! Looks amazing
flibblesan 18th April 2011, 12:36 Quote
Black Owl.
Jipa 18th April 2011, 12:37 Quote
Black Owl for me as well. Loving how it isn't... you know... a box like every case on the market. If you're designing from scratch, why not make it something special :)
Apocalypso 18th April 2011, 12:51 Quote
Another vote for Black-Owl here however it was a really close call between Gladios though.
jhanlon303 18th April 2011, 12:57 Quote
Gladio. G5s I have/had. Besides, I like the thought that went into Gladio. Oh, and it's white!

john
Sheiken 18th April 2011, 13:03 Quote
Black owl!
bennyjh 18th April 2011, 13:14 Quote
Proteus for me, All look awesome tho!
password 18th April 2011, 13:17 Quote
Black Owl by SnowyOwl for me
Pio42 18th April 2011, 13:23 Quote
II by Roboduck
Bobfoc 18th April 2011, 13:25 Quote
They're all awesome, even the ones that haven't made it this far.

Decision came down to the one I'd actually buy and that is Proteus by mick64.

I love the Black Owl, but the lack of air flow coming into the case, and only three 5 1/4 drive bays slightly concerns me if I was paying £££.££ for a case.

The Proteus is for me because:

1) Has seperate chambers for the rads which is necessary as we all know we don't want that heat dumped into a poorly ventilated case.
2) It supports two large rads very easily without modding.
3) Has loads of 5 1/4 drive bays
4) Is too big for a thief to easily cart it away if I ever get robbed!

As long as Phobya sort out decent cable management in the thing (copy Corsair 800D) and price it appropriately (Looking at you Silverstone and your TJ11!!!!), I'm buying one as soon as it's launched.
[USRF]Obiwan 18th April 2011, 14:28 Quote
I really like the design of proteus. But since I don't live in a server room its too big, the same can be said about the Gadio. Both designs can house-vest anything inside none the less.

The II and Blackowl seems to take less space and look more slick. I do like the red LCD displays on the II but it probably going to cost two arms if they are included. Remove all the LCD panels and you got a basically standard looking black case.

Leaves the Black owl (or white owl) little confused because I see two different case designs. I really love the triangle cut outs of the white one, but I do not like the big owl 'tattoo' on the top front and sides. I do like the minimalistic looks of the black version but I miss the triangle cut outs and side fan blowholes and cool looking phobia logo in bottom front that the white version has. I am also a little concerned about the HD rack, how are the HD's cooled in the top right position. I do not see any fan for cooling those.

Place the triangle front styling on the black one. But leave out the top owl logo and owl on the side panel. Make a white and black version of this, and place a little plate on the top front saying "Black Owl" or White Owl" and explanation/fix of cooling the HD's and it got my vote...
:)
Lazy_Amp 18th April 2011, 14:58 Quote
Definitely II, I had considered a vertical setup like that for a potential design, just didn't have enough time/CAD experience to get it into this contest. Glad to see it made it to the finals!
Bloody_Pete 18th April 2011, 14:59 Quote
I just want a cheaper TJ-11 personally, so I went for Proteus :P
jrs77 18th April 2011, 15:44 Quote
A Silverstone TJ07 is 220 x 560 x 565 mm (w x h x d) and can pack a good watercooling-setup aswell with 2x 240 + 1x 480 rads. It's completely made out of aluminum, has a removable motherboard-tray and lot's of options to place HDDs or optical drives. That's the reference for premium watercooling cases these days imho.

Proteus: No real improvements in this one over the available premium-cases imho, just unnecesarily bigger.

Gladio: A little different, but overall not better then allready available premium-cases. Like the Proteus just unnecessarily big.

II: Just as big as the TJ07 and the placement of components somewhat wastes some space. Not a bad idea with the seperate compartment for the rads in the front, but again the TJ07 wins this one for me.

Black Owl: G5 design with no real options in placement of components. Too restrictive imho.

As this content was about to design the best case for watercooling Proteus should win, because it offers the most possibilities to watercool your hardware, but the cooling-power of Gladio and II aren't far behind.
So looking at it from a standpoint of design, size and options the II-design wins my vote, allthough I wouldn't consider buying it over a TJ07.

EDIT: Looking at the results of the voting, it's very clear again that the majority just went with the fanciest renders instead of really thinking about the idea of the contest alltogether.
Combatus 18th April 2011, 16:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrs77


Proteus: No real improvements in this one over the available premium-cases imho, just unnecesarily bigger.

I'd have to disagree on that one. Proteus has the advantage of having space for push-pull fan configurations but more importantly, both radiator chambers draw cool air in and expel warm air out of the case in a single motion. The TJ07 can only do this in the bottom chamber - any other radiator location will mean sandwiching the rads, exhausting air into the case or drawing warm air from it. You also don't have to remove the 3.5in bays to install the radiators in either section.

In addition, we've found the TJ07 to be sub-par as far as air cooling is concerned (ie cooling the hardware that isn't water-cooled), whereas all the designs feature modern air cooling setups with rear exhaust fans and roof fans in come cases, with Proteus sporting a 200mm intake fan and 140mm exhaust fan too.
kzinti1 18th April 2011, 17:01 Quote
I'd buy a Gladio. IF Phobya sticks to the original design parameters. If not, then none of them.
Roboduck 18th April 2011, 17:15 Quote
Looks like its a bit of a one horse race. Can't say I'm surprised though, SnowyOwl came in with a excellent design ;). All the designs are great and deserve to be brought to life in one way or another. I know Ill be building my design as soon as I find the $ and the time. Good luck to all the other contestants! Its been fun!
SnowyOwl 18th April 2011, 17:54 Quote
Maybe i will end up first..but...they did keep a backdoor :
Quote:
.......then the final round of voting will take place. The best three designs will go to Phobya and it will decide the winner.

So anything can happen until the real Winner is known

Good luck to everyone ;)
Anfield 18th April 2011, 17:56 Quote
Micks Case should be the one with the best Cooling, Owls Case is the best looking, just my 2 cents.

As the whole purpose of the Contest in my opinion is to finally get a Case to the Market that can fit a decent WC Setup without any Modding I can't vote for any other Case than Micks.
frontline 18th April 2011, 18:16 Quote
I have no idea which is better performance wise, but Black Owl is damn sexy.

Good luck to everyone though.
Waynio 18th April 2011, 18:18 Quote
mick64's case looks great but too much like ones already available, flipping awesome renders though :).

Razer's case looks very well laid out & very straight forward to manufacture but I really don't like slimline drives (too slow) if this ever gets produced for sale it needs an option for full size optical.

Roboduck's case looks really really well laid out & very nice, if I was in the market for an awesomely laid out awesome looking case I'd buy this one, I still feel split about this & Razers case :?.

SnowyOwl's case looks like the basic form is based on a G5, does look very nice though but with a normalish layout like other cases, also looks like you need to be a master cable management type to make it look extra good like the renders, sweet case but I think it would need custom sata data cables, not sure just going off the renders.

Man I'm really split between Razer's & Roboduck's, very split, if razer included option for a normal optical I wouldn't have such a tough choice to make, I'll have to step away & think about it .

Voted Razer but I suggest if this one makes it to add an option for normal optical drive :).
Nitrix 18th April 2011, 18:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowyOwl
Maybe i will end up first..but...they did keep a backdoor :



So anything can happen until the real Winner is known

Good luck to everyone ;)

Actually we have binned that idea due to the drop out - the community vote will be final and voting will be left open for 2 weeks to keep it fair.

For the community by the community.
N!ck 18th April 2011, 19:31 Quote
Black Owl FTW!!!1111 ;)
jrs77 18th April 2011, 21:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
I'd have to disagree on that one. Proteus has the advantage of having space for push-pull fan configurations but more importantly, both radiator chambers draw cool air in and expel warm air out of the case in a single motion. The TJ07 can only do this in the bottom chamber - any other radiator location will mean sandwiching the rads, exhausting air into the case or drawing warm air from it. You also don't have to remove the 3.5in bays to install the radiators in either section.

In addition, we've found the TJ07 to be sub-par as far as air cooling is concerned (ie cooling the hardware that isn't water-cooled), whereas all the designs feature modern air cooling setups with rear exhaust fans and roof fans in come cases, with Proteus sporting a 200mm intake fan and 140mm exhaust fan too.

If I build a case that's alot bigger then the TJ07, then it's not an improvement imho. And speaking about aircooling-flaws with the TJ07 allthough this contest is purely about watercooling, then you're missing the point there I guess.
yoishiro 18th April 2011, 21:12 Quote
BLACK OWN - in MATE BLACK ..... wins

the HDD cage ... u need to sell it apart from the case , thats all i need LOL

kinda looking at it again , it would be a better watercooling case if u could put more than one radiator lol , like a 360 rad on top to make it the first rad in the loop or the "Main Rad" for CPU GPU or CPU NB/SB/PWM

just sayin' at least a 360 rad on top , even the Stealth HWlabs
geort45 18th April 2011, 23:36 Quote
Proteus! Looks great and a smaller case would be of no use to me :(, also not a big fan of cube-like cases. All contenders are great, I just decided by which case I'd actually buy for myself :)
xXSebaSXx 19th April 2011, 05:29 Quote
So who do I contact at Phobya to reserve on of each?

:)
The_Beast 19th April 2011, 05:43 Quote
I really like Black Owls hdd bays. I'm a freak, I'm all about the bays
srx08 19th April 2011, 07:07 Quote
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...
geort45 19th April 2011, 07:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

'Cause the cases are for watercooling. Phobya makes watercooling equipment, so it makes sense. It'd be another whole story to design a "normal" small case, it'd be for a different market, these are for enthusiasts :)
confusis 19th April 2011, 07:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

Ok, after 8 posts you feel the right to rip into people who competed here?

The design brief was for a case that was ideal for watercooling. It's easier, and more common, to watercool full ATX rigs. Hence most of the designs were full sized rigs.

If you want m-atx designs search for the previous MNPCTech design contests, theres a m-atx one in there somewhere.

Honestly, show me ANY current or discontinued full towers on the market that look as awesome as these 4, even as awesome as the top 10 designs.

Personal tastes vary, I understand, but the market is still there.
GuilleAcoustic 19th April 2011, 07:59 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

I went for a m-ATX size case at first, but realized that it was only a niche market. The goal was to design a case that could fit everyone's need ... and some need more than 2 cards or a lot of HDDs, multiple rad or loop.

If you want, I'm working to reduce the design I made for this contest to fit mATX only instead of EATX.

But again, that's only because I only need mATX. It' very hard not to end with a "big" case when you target watercooling (with all the hardware and rad inside the case).

take a look at my post here : Monolith mATX

Feel free to make any inputs as it helps me to improve my design ;). But keep in mind that my goal is to keep a small footprint, I don't care about the height (but it'll be less than 600mm).
kaiser 19th April 2011, 09:15 Quote
Shame I can't vote..

I'd go for Roboduck's, simply because their design features the best airflow through the rad, tho given the choice I'd buy Black Owl due to it looking so damn sexy ;)

As for the above debate, I agree that gaming worthy ITX cases are few and far between but when your talking about ultra-high end watercooling like Phobya is famous for, the price tag of the rest of the hardware would make a £300-£400 case like these would end up being just a drop in the bucket.
Anirudh 19th April 2011, 11:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

I totally agree with you, now that there are Sandy Bridge Boards, we need an epic case to join the mobo
Anirudh 19th April 2011, 11:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anirudh
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

I totally agree with you, now that there are Sandy Bridge Boards, we need an epic case to join the mobo

I want mini itx rather than micro
m0zes 19th April 2011, 13:51 Quote
Hats of to all the contestants, i've been watching the various stages to see what people come up with eagerly. As much as I like all the designs and I think all of them would make wonderful mod projects, unfortunately I can't really see any going into mass production, why? Because the main focus has been everything but manufacturing and distribution. Take the Black Owl, a beautiful case no doubt and commonly compared to the PowerPC case simply for its styling. However the PPC case is so much more, every fixing, every detail has been considered to the finest degree. Even something simple like side panel fixing the Black Owl renderings show no easy way to fix the side panels. Sure you can use screws on the sides / back / front etc, but that's not the aesthetic being shown. Then again they could employ a retention system like the PPC, but then again that's a very complex retention system, appropriate for this demographic of case?

I certainly hope Phobya make one of these cases as a display systems, but if they want a product to sell employ a professional industrial designers that actually understands how to mass produce and distribute.
l3v1ck 19th April 2011, 17:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by dispie
Black Owl by SnowyOwl

Yep, that get's my vote too.
cartago2202 19th April 2011, 18:03 Quote
Razer2007 with Phobya Gladio +1
OCJunkie 19th April 2011, 19:29 Quote
Sure, it stinks of Apple but +1 Black Owl for me... manageable size and moar stylin'
Ending Credits 19th April 2011, 19:54 Quote
I have to admit, despite voting for II, I'll be quite happy to see Black Owl win this. Sure it may be a bit of a G5 rip-off but it is absolutely gorgeous inside and out.
Katsumi 19th April 2011, 20:05 Quote
Phobya Gladio is the one for me.
Dissident 19th April 2011, 22:44 Quote
Proteus by far the best design for water.
Anfield 19th April 2011, 22:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by srx08
These cases offer nothing that you can't really already find. Why bother making these HUGE cases, when the market is flooded with Full sized ATX cases.

Why doesn't anyone design a M-atx or Mini ITX case. Seriously...

Because there are no Cases that allow to fit a decent Watercooling in it without modding, unless you turn to Mountain Mods, but outside America they are expensive, plus they are far worse looking that any of the Cases you can vote for here.

Sure there are some Cases like for example from Coolermaster or Corsair that have room for a 360 rad at the top, but thats only if you restrict performance as they don't offer enough room for a proper full thinkness Rad like the HWLabs GTX + Shrouds + 38mm fans, also the performance sucks as they all feed the Rad used Air.

Lian Li did try to do the same with Aftermarket Tops you could buy to add a Rad at the Top, but guess what? no shop ever sold them.

Silverstone? oh wait, they stopped making the TJ07.

On top of all that, being able to fit one 360 Rad is far from enough with the Heat Pcs produce these days, sure we have moved beyond the turns your Room into a Sauna I7 920, but have you recently looked at just how much heat High End Gpus produce?

So those Cases here are the closest we will ever get to a proper WC Case, sure they won't be for everyone, but thats far from the purpose of this Contest, if you want a generic Case that can fit low performance WC after wasting lots of time and money on modding it there are already a Billion and one Cases on the Market for you.
MrT0ad 20th April 2011, 00:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anfield
Because there are no Cases that allow to fit a decent Watercooling in it without modding, unless you turn to Mountain Mods, but outside America they are expensive, plus they are far worse looking that any of the Cases you can vote for here.

Agreed. It cost me an eye and a kidney to "import" an Extended Ascension + Pedestal a couple of years ago, and although it does what it says in the tin is huge and not very sightly, no matter how much "bling" you try to add...

XSPC has recently made an attempt too, but the end result is... crude. Again both models can host watercooling gear without modding, however they're in my opinion less than attractive.

In both cases proper cable management shines by it's absence too :p

There's nothing quite like the designs shortlisted on this competition in the market right now. Not even close.

Personally I prefer Mick's design, but I think I won't have a chance to cast a vote...

Due to the lack of "proper" WC cases, now that my rig is in the living room (making MM and XSPC a big no-no) I went down the road of using a Mo-Ra3 (nicely out of sight behind the AV cabinet) and first a LL PC-B10 and now a Cubitek Magic Cube.

Maybe my next build will be in the winner's case ;)
deathz 20th April 2011, 02:44 Quote
I'd built my own case for several reasons but what I saw here is on another level.
But in my opinion I've to give it to "Proteus" by mick64.
Best use of space imho with just one slight disadvantage.
So designwise I tend more to "Black Owl" by SnowyOwl
RS MAN 20th April 2011, 04:15 Quote
I have a Lian-Li PC-V2000 and for me the best design is "Proteus by mick64" because it is a good case for future evolution (modding).

Good Luck Everybody.

Sorry for my English, i'm French.
JCBeastie 20th April 2011, 08:27 Quote
Black Owl is looking to be the most interesting out of this bunch. Aesthetically pleasing, nicely laid out and potentially cheaper than the others.

I will however say I wanted Dominus to win! :D
Vadoff 20th April 2011, 08:34 Quote
Although I do like Black Owl, going to give this one to II because of the fan placement.
jrs77 20th April 2011, 08:50 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by JCBeastie

I will however say I wanted Dominus to win! :D

Dominus was withdrawn by the contestant and therefore didn't enter the final voting -> http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=2623536&postcount=94

With the discussions we had during the contest-phases it became clear, that some designs aren't going to be manufactured the way the designers intended them to be and I'd say that the curved design of BlackOwl won't be manufactured this way, but get straightened to look like the G5 from Apple.
Curved surfaces like the front of BlackOwl and complex shapes like the front-grill Dominus had in mind require the capabilities to produce injection molded plastics, or to manufacture parts out of solid block using 5-axis-mills wasting alot of materials, etc. And I don't see this happening tbh.
The easier designs on the other side, the ones that are manufacturable with "basic" tools don't get voted for.

It's an unpleasuring situation for the contestants and for aquatuning/Phobya imho.
Luigi408 20th April 2011, 11:24 Quote
For me Owl case is ugly, specially the handles... I hope mick64 wins cause that is the best case for water cooling and it looks very nice. I also liked how Razer case looked too but out of all of them mick64 has best watercooling/looking case out of the four.
fangame 20th April 2011, 11:47 Quote
I vote for "Proteus by mick64",
This case looks nice! ;)
:)
mnpctech 20th April 2011, 12:30 Quote
I voted for "II"
cool_dude 20th April 2011, 12:42 Quote
black owl for cable management looks good. not sure about the front though.... too much owl - does it need an owl? lol :D

It'd look good with that front, a curved alu front.
roadczar 20th April 2011, 13:16 Quote
Black Owl by SnowyOwl.
Bufo802 20th April 2011, 15:07 Quote
Voted for the black owl, I personally think the black version of it looks a lot better though.
Harry64a 20th April 2011, 15:30 Quote
I think that Proteus is the best!
izym 20th April 2011, 16:52 Quote
Black Owl by SnowyOwl
subtec 20th April 2011, 17:11 Quote
Just in case anyone was wondering, SnowyOwl was considerate enough to ask my permission to go ahead with the black version of his case prior to presenting it, since it does bear some resemblance to Dominus. Of course I gave my permission. I don't want people to get the impression he ripped off my design or anything.
Boddaker 20th April 2011, 18:57 Quote
II by Roboduck for its size and configurability. Great designs by all though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some of these ideas appear in future manufactured cases (you know they're watching!)
SGT_Rauch 21st April 2011, 01:39 Quote
Proteus (i hope) is the winner
ZERO <ibis> 21st April 2011, 07:32 Quote
Phobya Gladio for its great modding potential! There is so much you could do with that case!

Although I will say that I am a bit surprised that none of them really had any heavy support for large numbers of Hard Drives. I have found that every computer I have made for a main rig in the last 10 years has had more hdds than the one before it. Currently I have 10 drives and in another 5 years I will likely have 20. Luckily though my current setup has slots for over 20 drives lol.
confusis 21st April 2011, 10:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Luigi408
For me Owl case is ugly, specially the handles... I hope mick64 wins cause that is the best case for water cooling and it looks very nice. I also liked how Razer case looked too but out of all of them mick64 has best watercooling/looking case out of the four.

Amazing how this thread has brought out all the n00bs - and they're overly opinionated.

Ugly?? I'd like to see you design better buddy.

Positive support or nothing!
Didn't your mother tell you that if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all?
GuilleAcoustic 21st April 2011, 11:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by confusis
Amazing how this thread has brought out all the n00bs - and they're overly opinionated.

Ugly?? I'd like to see you design better buddy.

Positive support or nothing!
Didn't your mother tell you that if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all?

My wife always say : "Quand on est pas joli, on est poli !"

which can be translated into : "When you're not pretty, at least be polite"

I agree with you confusis, only constructive comments are welcomed, may they be positive or negative. Unless they are argued and lead to an improvement, better not say anything.
MrT0ad 21st April 2011, 15:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZERO <ibis>
Phobya Gladio for its great modding potential! There is so much you could do with that case!

Although I will say that I am a bit surprised that none of them really had any heavy support for large numbers of Hard Drives. I have found that every computer I have made for a main rig in the last 10 years has had more hdds than the one before it. Currently I have 10 drives and in another 5 years I will likely have 20. Luckily though my current setup has slots for over 20 drives lol.

Goes to show that is impossible to make a single product to fit every single user (master of the obvious they call me :p )

What I'm hoping for out of this competition is a case that is not as big and bland as the monolith in 2001: A Space Odissey and can fit a decent WC loop with no modding whatsoever.

And my latest build has no hard drives. Or ODD. Boot drive is a RevoDrive x2 and all the bulk storage, backups etc rely on the NAS.
HySpeed 21st April 2011, 22:02 Quote
i vote proteus i hove it will have in the retail version some removable dust filters:)
Kroy 21st April 2011, 23:45 Quote
I'd buy Proteus. Black owl reminds me too much of somewhere between old Dell workstation cases and Apple's styling. The skill and attention to detail on all four is very impressive regardless of my personal opinion and preference. Well done to all the finalists!
jadawgis732 22nd April 2011, 03:46 Quote
Phobya Gladio by Razer2007
LooseNeutral 22nd April 2011, 08:59 Quote
Gladio gets my vote! It's been fun watching this one. Congrats to each of the finalists. I look forward to seeing the build of the winners design! Will we get to see the Phobya crew at work ? Would make a nice article or better yet a work log here ;)
Shadow703793 22nd April 2011, 17:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
I have to say, all these cases have such a ridiculous amount of fans they are all going to sound like jet engines. All of them were great looking, but in the end I went for Black owl because it offers something a bit different.

Not necessarily. If you have a lot of fans you can dial down the rpm with out increasing temps. I haven't been able to go through all the logs, but I believe most are 140mm or better, at the very least 120mm. The choice of fans also influence noise. Say, you use some thing like Gentle Typhoons and you will have very little issues with noise.
Spotswood 22nd April 2011, 21:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by confusis
Amazing how this thread has brought out all the n00bs - and they're overly opinionated.

Ugly?? I'd like to see you design better buddy.

Positive support or nothing!
Didn't your mother tell you that if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all?

:( for chastising someone as a "noob" based on their post count, especially since he voted for the best water cooling case in the competition.


Welcome to the forum Luigi408!
jrs77 23rd April 2011, 00:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shadow703793
Not necessarily. If you have a lot of fans you can dial down the rpm with out increasing temps. I haven't been able to go through all the logs, but I believe most are 140mm or better, at the very least 120mm. The choice of fans also influence noise. Say, you use some thing like Gentle Typhoons and you will have very little issues with noise.

A good concept is combining both: smallest amount of fans possible with lowest RPM... all at once.

Two 360-radiators is more then enough for very efficient watercooling with good overclocking. No more then 7x 120mm fans needed all humming along at 800RPM, + the PSU-fan.

The question is all about reasonable hardware-setups imho, as setups ment for chasing benchmark-records are never housed in a case anyways, but on a testbench instead.
Chiller1 23rd April 2011, 14:56 Quote
i vote for Roboduck
bullseye 23rd April 2011, 16:58 Quote
I cant understand why black owl is winning a watercooling case competition!
Top marks to Snowy on the presentation but a reworked G5 with a single rad in the bottom is not a purpose built watercooling case, especially when the rad has restricted air flow from a plate shielding the psu.
EddTheRed666 23rd April 2011, 20:29 Quote
I have to aggree with Bullseye here, as nice as it is, how is black owl a watercooling case. Room for a single 360 rad with a 3rd of that coverd if not more. ( does anyone have a psu that small !!!)
M7ck 23rd April 2011, 20:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by bullseye
I cant understand why black owl is winning a watercooling case competition!
Top marks to Snowy on the presentation but a reworked G5 with a single rad in the bottom is not a purpose built watercooling case, especially when the rad has restricted air flow from a plate shielding the psu.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddTheRed666
I have to aggree with Bullseye here, as nice as it is, how is black owl a watercooling case. Room for a single 360 rad with a 3rd of that coverd if not more. ( does anyone have a psu that small !!!)

Please read the page on Snowys entry and then post again.
Bakes 23rd April 2011, 20:52 Quote
I love Black Owl. It might not be the best for all around cooling - but for many (including myself) ultimate watercooling is not about taking the noisiest, most powerful cooling components and plugging them together (that's easy) - it's about making a quiet, subtle, powerful yet stylish system.
Yes, it clearly used the G5 as a startpoint - but it's a completely different work now - and seems as though it would be phenomenal to work with and look at.

My only thought is whether it would be the white or black version that would be produced. The white is far more striking.
EddTheRed666 23rd April 2011, 20:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by M7ck

Please read the page on Snowys entry and then post again.

Ok so i read it again and what it says and what the case can deliver are two different things. Top mounted rad hmmm i don't see any ventilation holes to support this i thought these were finalised designs?
theseeker 23rd April 2011, 23:45 Quote
Mick has designed an outstanding case for H20 coolers. It combines 9/10 features that I want, and of course that is just my opinion.
Great job Mick regardless of the outcome.
bullseye 24th April 2011, 00:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by M7ck
Please read the page on Snowys entry and then post again.

It does state a top mounted rad as a option, But going by pictures 3 and 4 the Hdd cage and the mobo clearence. may require the fans to be mounted on the outside off the lid.

Sorry but I'm sticking with my previous post.
Dissident 24th April 2011, 03:41 Quote
Black owl offers no functionality that is particularly new or useful. I'm not saying it's a bad design, just not very useful for water-cooling. And yes there s that Apple similarity.
pooper 24th April 2011, 06:58 Quote
The final four are all impressive for different reasons, but only one of them is truly brilliantly thought out for uber watercooling, i.e, is clearly distinguished by its superior functionality. As for its beauty, recent design trends (e.g., 800D, Magnum M8/M10, Fractals) underscore the growing appeal of exactly the minimalist elegance brilliantly accomplished in the Dominus and the Proteus in this competition. Unhappy to see the only real competition to the Proteus on combined functional and aesthetic grounds withdraw from the final round. These are all fabulous designs. One one I would actually *buy* however is the Proteus (or Dominus).
Pikey 24th April 2011, 10:59 Quote
Voted for micks case by far the best watercooling case there.
SnowyOwl 24th April 2011, 12:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddTheRed666
Ok so i read it again and what it says and what the case can deliver are two different things. Top mounted rad hmmm i don't see any ventilation holes to support this i thought these were finalised designs?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bullseye
It does state a top mounted rad as a option, But going by pictures 3 and 4 the Hdd cage and the mobo clearence. may require the fans to be mounted on the outside off the lid.

Sorry but I'm sticking with my previous post.

@EddTheRed666 & Bullsete

I am happy to see you really took time to look and analyse before casting your vote. I wish you would have chosen my design but from your comments i see i should have shown more pics of the different possible layout. I wont post links or pics since it would be unfair but i will try to explain how it is possible.

Let me begin by saying that the black version is a trim down version to illustrate the possibilities of color changing and clean design.

For the top mount rad.. Like you can seeThe whithe one has fan mount and not the black one . The top mount set up i tested in 3D was a 2x140mm rad wich stops just short of the drive cage or a 3x120mm ultra slim (12mm thick fan + 30mmthickrad) arragements. Again i should have posted render of these.

In the lower part the power supply is really a std. size PSU even if it looks small. There is also a 30mm space between the sheet metal part that you see behind the 3x140mm in the bottom section

I hope it helps you see why this also a great water cooling case.

Thanks to all the voters;)
rebelskum 24th April 2011, 17:41 Quote
II by roboduck seems to be the most compact and practicle design. its also the coolest looking!
dave99 24th April 2011, 20:27 Quote
I would buy the Black Owl tomorrow.
Dragon770 25th April 2011, 01:53 Quote
i really like this one Proteus by mick64
Luigi408 25th April 2011, 11:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spotswood
:( for chastising someone as a "noob" based on their post count, especially since he voted for the best water cooling case in the competition.


Welcome to the forum Luigi408!

Thanks :)
bullseye 25th April 2011, 13:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by SnowyOwl
@EddTheRed666 & Bullsete

For the top mount rad.. Like you can seeThe whithe one has fan mount and not the black one . The top mount set up i tested in 3D was a 2x140mm rad wich stops just short of the drive cage or a 3x120mm ultra slim (12mm thick fan + 30mmthickrad) arragements:

Does Phobya sell a 30mm thick rad and 12mm thick fans?

If you lost the handles and raised the case hight to match then I could see it working. But not in its present configuration.

Your presentation is excellent and Im sorry I dont share your vision, but good luck with the competition.
Dackman 25th April 2011, 13:06 Quote
Black Owl is my favorite
Aliff 25th April 2011, 16:33 Quote
For me, both Proteus and Black Owl is great case. But if you want to do heavy watercooling, than Proteus is the winner. If you want medium watercooling setup plus great looks than Black Owl is the best.

So it up to us to decide. If only I can vote..

By the way, when will this voting ends and the winner is announce?

Sorry for my bad English. Thanks.
M7ck 25th April 2011, 22:25 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aliff

By the way, when will this voting ends and the winner is announce?

Voting ends on 2nd May 2011 at 08:48 (GMT)
Suzuki 26th April 2011, 11:50 Quote
Proteus is superb,a real replacement for Corsair 800Dw. everibody i showed this case project was WOW.
+1 from me for Proteus and nothing else.
Artix 26th April 2011, 11:51 Quote
I hope that the case "Proteus by mick64 " will win , i like it very much .......mmm yeah
richard3126 26th April 2011, 23:20 Quote
This look of black owl is very nice
UrbanSmooth 28th April 2011, 03:08 Quote
Proteus.

Functionality over "style."
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 03:26 Quote
So you design their next case for them and you get a case and some H20 gear? WTF? How about you get so many points on each case sold?
coolhand411 28th April 2011, 04:08 Quote
Great looking case Mike..old school a water coolers dream
geort45 28th April 2011, 04:48 Quote
Phew Proteus is getting so close :D!
OC Maximus 28th April 2011, 05:29 Quote
So why can't I vote in this poll?
coolhand411 28th April 2011, 05:38 Quote
i registered about two days ago when i will be able to vote ?
MrT0ad 28th April 2011, 12:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by OC Maximus
So why can't I vote in this poll?
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolhand411
i registered about two days ago when i will be able to vote ?

If my memory serves me well you need at least two weeks of membership or >15 posts in order to vote in polls...

And spamming posts to get the quota may be a really quick path to the land of the ban (this is not exclusive to this forum, just something that is generally frowned upon pretty much everywhere).
Combatus 28th April 2011, 12:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
So you design their next case for them and you get a case and some H20 gear? WTF? How about you get so many points on each case sold?

The case will be made in very low numbers as it will likely be quite expensive to produce and to buy. It's not rolling off a huge production line like a Cooler Master or Antec case might - each one will likely have large elements that are hand made.
MrT0ad 28th April 2011, 13:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
The case will be made in very low numbers as it will likely be quite expensive to produce and to buy. It's not rolling off a huge production line like a Cooler Master or Antec case might - each one will likely have large elements that are hand made.

Something around the price tag of MM Pinnacle or XSPC H2 cases I presume?

I would still get Mick's Proteus over either of those any day of the week and twice on Sundays tho... ;)
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 15:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
The case will be made in very low numbers as it will likely be quite expensive to produce and to buy. It's not rolling off a huge production line like a Cooler Master or Antec case might - each one will likely have large elements that are hand made.

Sorry still not a fair deal for the person who designs it.
Nitrix 28th April 2011, 17:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Sorry still not a fair deal for the person who designs it.

I think you will find it quite fair as Combatus has mentioned we are not expecting to see large amount sold due to the cost and based on the fact its a small market in the grand scheme of things.

If we switched it to your idea based on even 50-100 cases selling the winner would still be better off with the case case and wc kit.

Not to mention that if you dont like this you just dont enter. Simples.
SnowyOwl 28th April 2011, 18:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Sorry still not a fair deal for the person who designs it.

It is fair if you consider the fact that not everybody has the money or tools or craftmanship to make their design come to life and get one for free. It's a great opportunity to see your design reach production whitout the enormous amount of time it takes to get there. We all knew this right from the start and it's not like they are going to make lots of cash selling these.

If i had to charge for the work i did on this design (like a designer would) i would not be asking more than what the first prize is worth....wich is about a week full time at 50$/hrs.

You still have the right to beleive it's not fair...but i think mick64 and i would be happy men just to see our design for real after all the hard work that was done

Again I'm thankfull to Phobya & Bit-tech for this contest;)

by the way i went to see your work on your web site and i think it's awesome;)
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 18:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
I think you will find it quite fair as Combatus has mentioned we are not expecting to see large amount sold due to the cost and based on the fact its a small market in the grand scheme of things.

If we switched it to your idea based on even 50-100 cases selling the winner would still be better off with the case case and wc kit.

Not to mention that if you dont like this you just dont enter. Simples.

Sorry, you are not talking to a n00b. If you make a low production run on cases you will charge a premium price. No designer worth anything will design a case for you for a couple grand (which is a generous estimate based on your prize pool). I actually WORK in this field so I guess my perspective is a little different ;) Hate to see people being taken advantage of but if they do it willingly I guess that is their option. At least I can try to point out they are not getting a great deal.
faceplant 28th April 2011, 18:20 Quote
I hope mick64 gets this, His design has been all over the web and I'm baffled on why some of the big chinese companies havn't approached him. I remember wcuk having a look at it but I think costs would have buried them as a company.

The Black Owl looks like a Zalman morphed with a NZXT. Not a diss just my observation.

Both Black Owl and Proteus need to look at their drive bays, theirs no airflow, I know Mick64 has several renders and different setups. If a manufacturer could create after market parts or throw them in to allow for maximum choice that would be bop on
BG_Geno 28th April 2011, 19:00 Quote
DB sent me this link and asked me to comment as a guy who makes his living designing products, and is in manufacturing...for what that is worth.

I assume everyone entering will not be professional designers (or they would not be entering obviously) so from their perspective, as it was pointed out, just having a design they like put into production so they get their case built is a nice feeling for sure.

That said...it doesn't mean they are not being taken advantage of a little bit either. The argument that the case is "low volume but expensive" so there won't be much profit is almost comical. The price is higher because it is low volume so that they DO make a profit. They are not going through all that is involved with manufacturing a case for altruistic reasons I assure you. Using a forum based contest with voting also builds in focus group type research and allows them multiple designs that they get to pick from without having to pay the designers whose work is not selected.

You might argue the company is small and can not afford a paid designer and that they are just trying to be entrepreneurial and "boot strap it", (not sure if that is the situation in this instance) but if that was the case then a more equitable solution is to do as DB suggested and pay a smaller up front fee and "points" on sales. That gives the designer a vested interest in the design selling well.

In the end if the designers competing are happy with being paid in barter and risking zero payment if their design is not selected then it is on them. I actually competed in a case design contest like this many years ago for a $5,000 first prize and no angels lost their wings. As it turns out $5,000 is about the base fee I would normally charge for a case design if all I was required to submit was art work--meaning no 2D or 3D CAD and no production oversight etc.

And you never know, the people submitting designs may find out they really enjoy product design and this contest ends up being the catalyst for a career path. I took a look at the designs and all of them are winners in my book. Good luck to all the contestants.
machonegoesping 28th April 2011, 19:23 Quote
Mick64's case is just about perfect! Hope you win, mate!
Roboduck 28th April 2011, 19:30 Quote
As a professional designer working in manufacturing (medical devices though, not sheet metal or cases) I both agree and disagree with you. If I was a professional case designer then I could understand charging $5000+ for a case design but sadly I am not. I don't even do sheet metal design so anything created by me or any other "non-professional" would be worth a lot less, and would need to be significantly reworked by the Phobya engineers (to make something easily machined and profitable).

Like Snowy said, some of us don't have the finances to build these and the contest provides a way to get a stocked case for a few hours of CAD work. Even given the increased price for the low production numbers these cases are going to cost a lot to make and really won't be making that much profit off of each one. If for some reason the product really takes off, then I could see the lack of royalties being an issue but I honestly don't see that happening at the targeted price points.

I do appreciate you looking out for the best interests of the designers. I think I speak for the rest of the participants when I say we know there are downsides to the contest rules but for us (not everyone) the effort is worth it. In the end it was a good opportunity to get feedback on our designs and I do plan to build mine in the future at some point.

Thanks,

-Scott
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 19:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboduck
As a professional designer working in manufacturing (medical devices though, not sheet metal or cases) I both agree and disagree with you. If I was a professional case designer then I could understand charging $5000+ for a case design but sadly I am not. I don't even do sheet metal design so anything created by me or any other "non-professional" would be worth a lot less, and would need to be significantly reworked by the Phobya engineers (to make something easily machined and profitable).

Like Snowy said, some of us don't have the finances to build these and the contest provides a way to get a stocked case for a few hours of CAD work. Even given the increased price for the low production numbers these cases are going to cost a lot to make and really won't be making that much profit off of each one. If for some reason the product really takes off, then I could see the lack of royalties being an issue but I honestly don't see that happening at the targeted price points.

I do appreciate you looking out for the best interests of the designers. I think I speak for the rest of the participants when I say we know there are downsides to the contest rules but for us (not everyone) the effort is worth it. In the end it was a good opportunity to get feedback on our designs and I do plan to build mine in the future at some point.

Thanks,

-Scott
I would like to see verbiage stating if more than X number of units are produced the designer gets so many points (percentage of each sale - that being percentage of profit). Any designs NOT chosen should be the property of the entrants so they can sell the design elsewhere if they choose to do so.
Roboduck 28th April 2011, 19:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I would like to see verbiage stating if more than X number of units are produced the designer gets so many points (percentage of each sale - that being percentage of profit). Any designs NOT chosen should be the property of the entrants so they can sell the design elsewhere if they choose to do so.

The intellectual property issue was already covered (I don't feel like searching through the hundreds of posts to find it) but all the designs belong to the designers unless chosen by Phobya to be produced. I can't speak for Phobya/Aquatuning but there may be some room for negotiation regarding sale/profit numbers if the cases end up selling well.
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 19:46 Quote
It would be really cool if the winner ended up with a job designing for them.

I would spell out the IP issues and such in writing. Things can get ugly when legal issues are not well-documented. google Aqua-tuning + trademark registration to see the hard time they had when legal issues and agreements where not well communicated or documented
Roboduck 28th April 2011, 19:47 Quote
Now that would sweet! ;)
Number Six 28th April 2011, 19:51 Quote
For me, the choice would have to lie with the "Proteus" chassis.

The design looks far simpler and cleaner than the "Black Owl" design, and it seems to be far more advanced functionally, for a water cooling enthusiast.

The "Black Owl" looks like a very compromised design to me, in the same way the 7/800D was.
DarthBeavis 28th April 2011, 19:54 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboduck
Now that would sweet! ;)

Aqua-tuning is pushing forward big time from what I have heard through the grapevine so I think designing for them might be an exciting venture for the right person.
Nitrix 28th April 2011, 23:57 Quote
OK DB,

now you have had your fun in this thread so here is where we draw the line.

If you would like to comment on the case's in question or express your choice in vote thats perfectly fine.

As for the rest of it you, have had your say - the designers were all aware what they were doing so drop it.
DarthBeavis 29th April 2011, 00:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
OK DB,

now you have had your fun in this thread so here is where we draw the line.

If you would like to comment on the case's in question or express your choice in vote thats perfectly fine.

As for the rest of it you, have had your say - the designers were all aware what they were doing so drop it.

Thanks for at least allowing me to voice an opinion.
Aliff 29th April 2011, 03:45 Quote
I think the rules are clearly stated and all designers already agreed before they submit their design. So, there is no point to argue about the clearly stated rules. If you don't like the rules, don't join the competition. It's that simple.


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BG_Geno 29th April 2011, 05:36 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
OK DB,

now you have had your fun in this thread so here is where we draw the line.

If you would like to comment on the case's in question or express your choice in vote thats perfectly fine.

As for the rest of it you, have had your say - the designers were all aware what they were doing so drop it.

That is the good and bad of a public contest...you don't really get to "draw the line". If you do throw your weight around and deny people the right to express their opinion in a polite civilized manner just because you do not like that opinion then we enter the realm of oppression and cover up. You also make a mockery of the public forums here.

Roboduck, I do actually agree that it IS the designers right to choose to enter the contest. I also think there is merit in a contest format itself when handled fairly for both parties. The only point I would take exception with is the claim that the company manufacturing the cases will not be making money. That assertion tries to make the company look like some sort of patron of the arts and it is simply not true. They WILL be making money and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. They will also end up taking elements from the winning design and using them on future cases which also make money.

A more altruistic "patron of the arts" approach for future contests might be to add points based on sales as was suggested earlier, or to include some sort of class that helped the designer hone their design skills. An online SolidWorks class or similar. The company gets a design, improves the designers skill set, and maybe strengthens a relationship with the designer while at the same time making them a better designer. My point being that if the company has in house designers on staff already and has experience in product design and manufacturing then they can mentor the "armature" designer.

That is a much less predatory approach that enriches both parties...and before you "draw the line" on me I would remind you that these are only the opinions of one person--certainly nothing you need to be afraid of.
Aliff 29th April 2011, 06:31 Quote
Proteus and Black Owl is now head to head. Wow.. The score is 88, 30, 30, 88. What a nice combination.


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Nitrix 29th April 2011, 09:39 Quote
The reason I want to put a stop to this is not trying to crush your options etc because if i wanted to do that than I could have just deleted your posts - end of.

The main point here is you are dragging the thread off topic. This thread was created for the purpose of discussing the final cases and the voting on them.

If you wanted to discuss the contest details this should have been done during the contest and not in the final voting thread.

So please keep topics constructive on the cases or voting - tell us why you like X case maybe and any points you can tell us on the good or bad design of X case from your experienced position in design could be useful.
Seraph84 29th April 2011, 10:17 Quote
Hi everybody...i need to change my CosmosS....and i LOVE Proteus case...for me, is the perfect case for hi-end water cooling system...i hope it wins the contest...
faceplant 29th April 2011, 12:15 Quote
A constructive post...

res·o·nate/ˈrezəˌnāt/Verb

1. Produce or be filled with a deep, full, reverberating sound.

Could the fan filled proteus drive you insane as the fans reverberate though floors and desks...yes this will occur even as low as 500rpm.

I feel the black owl will also suffer the same fate due to its bendy feet and physically small foot print, leading to a higher vibration.

Just another observation.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Tooling...can be nightmare. Bending metal... can be a nightmare, especailly when deciding whether to cut tiny triangles before or afterwards...before and the triangles will elongate, afterwards is a machinists ball ache.

Keep it simple, with functionality and longevity
GuilleAcoustic 29th April 2011, 12:25 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by faceplant
A constructive post...

res·o·nate/ˈrezəˌnāt/Verb

1. Produce or be filled with a deep, full, reverberating sound.

Could the fan filled proteus drive you insane as the fans reverberate though floors and desks...yes this will occur even as low as 500rpm.

I feel the black owl will also suffer the same fate due to its bendy feet and physically small foot print, leading to a higher vibration.

Just another observation.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Tooling...can be nightmare. Bending metal... can be a nightmare, especailly when deciding whether to cut tiny triangles before or afterwards...before and the triangles will elongate, afterwards is a machinists ball ache.

Keep it simple, with functionality and longevity

http://www.pcsilent.de/ppic-MAXI-Verax-Fan-slicks-Fan-decoupling-Rubber-fan-holder-dampening-vgummi.jpg

that + rubber feet / rubber pad under the case ....
BG_Geno 29th April 2011, 12:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
The reason I want to put a stop to this is not trying to crush your options etc because if i wanted to do that than I could have just deleted your posts - end of.

The main point here is you are dragging the thread off topic. This thread was created for the purpose of discussing the final cases and the voting on them.

If you wanted to discuss the contest details this should have been done during the contest and not in the final voting thread.

So please keep topics constructive on the cases or voting - tell us why you like X case maybe and any points you can tell us on the good or bad design of X case from your experienced position in design could be useful.

Consider me properly chastised.

Best of luck to all the contestants!
ixmatal 29th April 2011, 14:44 Quote
2 cents >

Proteus: I have seen this grow since he first put it out there, and his focus has always been water cooling capability, if you look closely you can see the detail. Will it take time to manufacture? of course! But it is well thought out, and allows a builder to do anything they want.

BlackOwl: This is pretty slick. And, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But now that I have had a chance to get my hands on a g5 case I am kind of disappointed. The layout is basically the same, with the exception of allowing for radiators. By trying to improve on the original winning design of the g5, it feels like more of a "mod" than a design.

1 cent more >

I can say with a fair amount of certainty that Phobya stands to make a "pretty penny" no matter how this turns out. I base my opinion only on the fact that I have now received almost 2000 requests for pricing from all around the world, and my design did not even make it to the final round (!)
Xtrafresh 29th April 2011, 15:22 Quote
just days before the poll closes, and everyone is tied! 88/30/30/88.
SnowyOwl 29th April 2011, 15:28 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ixmatal
2 cents >

Proteus: I have seen this grow since he first put it out there, and his focus has always been water cooling capability, if you look closely you can see the detail. Will it take time to manufacture? of course! But it is well thought out, and allows a builder to do anything they want.

BlackOwl: This is pretty slick. And, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But now that I have had a chance to get my hands on a g5 case I am kind of disappointed. The layout is basically the same, with the exception of allowing for radiators. By trying to improve on the original winning design of the g5, it feels like more of a "mod" than a design.

1 cent more >

I can say with a fair amount of certainty that Phobya stands to make a "pretty penny" no matter how this turns out. I base my opinion only on the fact that I have now received almost 2000 requests for pricing from all around the world, and my design did not even make it to the final round (!)



The original goal was to make an attractive and curvy design with water cooling in it...trying to get out of the classic water cooling case wich look like a giant square box with lots of space in it.

Each case in this competion (exept yours i must admit...realy i'm not joking) has a feature that can remind you another case.

The G5 is an icon and my feet & the way i threated the front bezel remind it.
(First design lesson: don't touch an icon unless your ready for some real love/hate comments)

The only thing i don't get and i can't agree with you is the layout:? it does not have much in common:
power supply position = no
hard drive arragement = no
motherboard position = no
5.25 bay = no

my layout is not revolutionnary agreed but what is so similar to a G5:?
Number Six 29th April 2011, 17:01 Quote
Woot! Symmetric poll graph. :D

When exactly is the closing time?
nico_ze_poo 29th April 2011, 18:44 Quote
It is the smooth, curvy lines of Black Owl that made up my mind, although all the cases here are bloody brilliant !

Great work, pals

PS: || was a close second, IMHO
Number Six 29th April 2011, 21:04 Quote
Out of interest, what will happen if there is a tie at the end of voting?
faceplant 30th April 2011, 03:53 Quote
@ GuilleAcoustic, Multimodder. You obviously need to go to a physics/acoustic class or lecture at your nearest school/uni, and do some reading about frequency response in building materials (or watch mythbusters).

Rubber standoffs for fans will not completely remove fan vibration, they will only dampen it;
If a number of moving/rotating objects all suddenly hit the same frequency in extreme cases screws will rotate loose, welds will fail, brick work will shatter, obviously the extreme isn't going to happen in our situation, but... put 10-12 x 120,140,200mm fans in a case with rubber stand offs I'll bet my last penny if these fans all hit the right speeds your going to get that good old whirring vibration through the cases supporting furniture.

Rant over... apologies to Nitrix for moving off topic, but I had to explain where I was going in the older post.
Bed.
lilgoth89 30th April 2011, 04:01 Quote
id love to see all 4 designs ( and some from earlier rounds ) built tbh, they all look so awesome, my vote went to "Proteus" due to its customizable design and scope for modding. hell id like one even if it doesnt win ^_^
GuilleAcoustic 30th April 2011, 07:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by faceplant
@ GuilleAcoustic, Multimodder. You obviously need to go to a physics/acoustic class or lecture at your nearest school/uni, and do some reading about frequency response in building materials (or watch mythbusters).

Rubber standoffs for fans will not completely remove fan vibration, they will only dampen it;
If a number of moving/rotating objects all suddenly hit the same frequency in extreme cases screws will rotate loose, welds will fail, brick work will shatter, obviously the extreme isn't going to happen in our situation, but... put 10-12 x 120,140,200mm fans in a case with rubber stand offs I'll bet my last penny if these fans all hit the right speeds your going to get that good old whirring vibration through the cases supporting furniture.

Rant over... apologies to Nitrix for moving off topic, but I had to explain where I was going in the older post.
Bed.

Before judging people, try to know who they are and what they learnt at school. And for your information I'm reading a book about resonance, sound frequency, etc.

I know what reosnance is, but truly .... what's the percentage of chance for it to happen ? And even if it happens, just adjust a little the fan speed to change the frequency of the vibrations.

But again, this is a design contest, vibration, resonance, is the job of engineers and the inner structure should be build according to the rest of the case, but this is out of the scope of this contest.

Resonance is always a question of right frequency. If you're afraid of it, then I hope you'll awoid all bridges, building, etc, because everything can resonate.
Suzuki 30th April 2011, 12:45 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by faceplant
A constructive post...

1. Produce or be filled with a deep, full, reverberating sound.

Could the fan filled proteus drive you insane as the fans reverberate though floors and desks...yes this will occur even as low as 500rpm.

I feel the black owl will also suffer the same fate due to its bendy feet and physically small foot print, leading to a higher vibration.

Just another observation.

do you really think that this is a problem ? (the fan noise) who is gonna buy this case will not think at the same problem as you do.
if it where up to me i would'va put 8+6 delta 252 cfm just to be sure i have the best watercooling rig.for silent computing you have other choices and also radiators......
RedWolfwere 1st May 2011, 14:55 Quote
Sure the Proteus is a good design but far too big; going for the Black Owl ;)
Death9000 1st May 2011, 17:10 Quote
black owl easy.

many of the entries look as through they have aimed to 'design their own build' rather than 'design a case'

black owl looks amazing!
Number Six 1st May 2011, 19:17 Quote
Neck and neck again. :D
fuus 1st May 2011, 21:38 Quote
94 votes for Proteus to 93 for Black Owl, gonna be a close finish!
lilgoth89 1st May 2011, 21:48 Quote
coming down to the wire this one is... i keep coming on to check to see how things are going :)
M7ck 1st May 2011, 21:57 Quote
They should just make them all! All four would be worthy winners.
Dissident 1st May 2011, 23:49 Quote
Maybe a tie is a good thing....they have to make both and everyone will be happy! :)
Number Six 1st May 2011, 23:56 Quote
94 and 94, tie again. :D

Will be interesting to see what happens if they do tie.
lilgoth89 2nd May 2011, 01:44 Quote
looks like snowyowl will just about steal this one, 7 hours to go and 2 votes up
Suzuki 2nd May 2011, 01:44 Quote
you're right,because if it makes only black owl all this time spend on this thread it will be a waste.
what are the conditions to vote for proteus(in this poll)?
i want at least this,to know that i gave one vote to one of the most imressive cases from this contest.
Aliff 2nd May 2011, 04:51 Quote
I think, it's better to make both Proteus and Black Owl.

Come on guys.. vote vote vote!
lilgoth89 2nd May 2011, 05:07 Quote
i think they should make all 4 finalists tbh they are all amazing designs, im sure they would all sell well as they all have unique looks that will appeal to different people. i was amazed the first time i saw the proteus and ive backed it all the way in this competition.
Aliff 2nd May 2011, 05:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgoth89
i think they should make all 4 finalists tbh they are all amazing designs, im sure they would all sell well as they all have unique looks that will appeal to different people. i was amazed the first time i saw the proteus and ive backed it all the way in this competition.

If they have to make all 4 of them, than there is no point of making this competition.

From the voting, we can see that Gladio and Roboduck is losing 2/3 of votes against Phobia and Black Owl. I just feel that since Phobia and Black Owl is such a close finished, they both deserve to be made.
Aliff 2nd May 2011, 05:41 Quote
Is this pool closed already? I have just reached 16 posts but still cannot vote. Oh man..
Aliff 2nd May 2011, 07:44 Quote
1 hour left for voting. Proteus need 2 more votes.

Hope Proteus win coz I already saved my $$$ to buy it.
GuilleAcoustic 2nd May 2011, 08:04 Quote
Last time to vote. It's finaly coming to an end. I remember joining this contest in november. It has been a very stressing time, but also very interesting and i learned a lot. I'm glad I came to know you, guys, a little and I wish good luck to them. Razer, Robo, don't be disapointed by the result your work was very good : ).

I wish to see all those design in the project log.
confusis 2nd May 2011, 08:29 Quote
A few of the designs that didn't make it to this round are being made in one shape or another :)

Well done to the top 4, and the person who takes the final spot! GOing to be VERY close!
MrT0ad 2nd May 2011, 10:13 Quote
Congratulations to SnowyOwl for winning the competition :)

And well done to Mick, Razer and Roboduck for make it this far :)

Pity we won't see Proteus built this time, it's been a long wait and it has been so close to seeing the light of day so many times...

Oh well, such is life :)
Seraph84 2nd May 2011, 10:50 Quote
i would like to vote... :(
Bakes 2nd May 2011, 12:21 Quote
Well done to Snowy Owl. I look forward to buying it, upon review :)
GuilleAcoustic 2nd May 2011, 12:23 Quote
GG Snow;). Can't wait to see the real case.
SnowyOwl 2nd May 2011, 12:33 Quote
Thanks to every body i will write up a liitle something to thank everybody once they confirm the win.

Thanks to all again
Mick64 2nd May 2011, 12:42 Quote
I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can say congratulations to Snowy, WELL DONE! I know how much work has gone into your design, a deserving winner!

A very big thank you to all those who supported me!
GuilleAcoustic 2nd May 2011, 13:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can say congratulations to Snowy, WELL DONE! I know how much work has gone into your design, a deserving winner!

A very big thank you to all those who supported me!

Your case is great, I'm sure it will come to life in a way or another.
Roboduck 2nd May 2011, 13:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can say congratulations to Snowy, WELL DONE! I know how much work has gone into your design, a deserving winner!

A very big thank you to all those who supported me!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Congrats to Snowy and the rest of the competitors, and thanks to those who supported me. Can't wait to see the real deal!

Edit: Last place by one vote... thats depressing :(
Seraph84 2nd May 2011, 13:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
I can't say I'm not disappointed, but I can say congratulations to Snowy, WELL DONE! I know how much work has gone into your design, a deserving winner!

A very big thank you to all those who supported me!

your case would be perfect for me...it's a very pity...and just for 1 vote!!!
i hope that you will find a way to realize and sell it...i would surely buy one...


the Black Owl, is more eye-attractive at the first sight...but the inner solution are not revolutionary IMO, and the risk is that the real case (i think that to redure production costs, phobya will introduce some changes in the original design) would be no more than another case in the market...

we'll see...
Suzuki 2nd May 2011, 14:06 Quote
so my vote would'va make some difference,but they didn't approve...
i hope that they will consider the close result and decide to make both cases,because besides the old users on this forum which had the chance to vote,they are more of us which we wanted to vote,but couldn't.
Razer2007 2nd May 2011, 14:49 Quote
Hey I made it... wow. what's 3rd place prize again?
ixmatal 2nd May 2011, 17:06 Quote
Congratulations Snowy!

Mick - my condolences... maybe someone else will pick it up?

Razer - hmmm, 3rd place..... +rep? LOL

Everyone who participated put in huge amounts of work and you all deserve recognition and respect for trying to give back to the community!

;):D
23RO_UK 2nd May 2011, 17:58 Quote
Congratulations Snowy ;)

Mick, Razer and Roboduck yours are all great designs in there own rights in my opinion and any Manufacturers looking should start taking notes from all 4 of you IMHO :)

Lastly I will confess Robo got my vote :D
Combatus 2nd May 2011, 18:14 Quote
Well done to everyone who took part - I can't believe how close the votes were. Over 250 votes and one vote separates 1st and 2nd and 3rd and 4th! Congratulations to SnowyOwl - we'll be in touch!

I'd like to personally thank every one of the designers, especially the final four. If any of you need further support from bit-tech, be it in building the case yourself, or finding someone who may be able to build it for you, just drop me a line.
geort45 2nd May 2011, 18:47 Quote
Damn we lost :(! Sadly I couldn't buy snowy's case anyway because it's too small for my actual hardware. It'd be fantastic if both cases were made since they're aimed at different form factors so they don't really overlap :). Maybe a first run with Black Owl and see how the market responds, then release Proteus :P

GG Mick64!
lilgoth89 2nd May 2011, 19:13 Quote
yeah id be interested in buying proteus even tho it hasnt won the compitition oh well, there is always next time mick :)
subtec 2nd May 2011, 19:35 Quote
Congrats to Snowyowl, and an all around good job to the all the participants. It's been quite a little experience, and I have to say - in spite of my decision to withdraw, I enjoyed participating and competing with you guys, and learned a few things along the way. I wish all of you luck in your future endeavors, and I hope to see a few of these designs turned to reality one way or another.
Seraph84 2nd May 2011, 21:45 Quote
damn....i'm just been abilited to vote BT poll....too late...
Nitrix 3rd May 2011, 00:52 Quote
Congrats SnowyOwl!

And for all that took part in the contest, and the effort you made.

We will be in touch shortly to discuss the manufacture of the case.
SnowyOwl 3rd May 2011, 15:14 Quote
Thank you to everybody who made this contest possible

Thank you to all contestant who were really respectfull of other designer. It's great to be part of a community that can share and discuss in a respectfull way.

I can tell everyone Phobya as already contacted me in order to make this design come to life.

I really hope mick gets it's case product by some company because he as put great effort in making is concept ready for production...i truly wish him to get the case to market.

Thank you all again this was a lot of fun. I hope we get a similar opportunity in the future.

Best regards,

David
Kroy 3rd May 2011, 17:28 Quote
Grats to you SnowyOwl. GL with the production. Hope it turns out as awesome as everyone sees it!

to lose by one vote, Mick, unlucky. I voted for ya! Keep us posted if you get any other take-up. Would be a great end to the story.
bullseye 3rd May 2011, 22:26 Quote
Congratulations to Snowy. It will be interesting to see how the design evolves.
Spotswood 4th May 2011, 00:06 Quote
I wonder how long its going to take Phobya to produce this.

If its any gauge, Combatus said in November that Phobya already had a case designed, and that one hasn't even hit stores yet.
Razer2007 5th May 2011, 08:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bit Tech

1st Place - you get your case built and sold through out the world - you even get to name it. Phobya will send you one too, packed with water-cooling hardware.
2nd Place - a £100 Aquatuning sponsorship voucher
3rd Place - a £50 Aquatuning sponsorship voucher.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/modding/2010/11/01/phobya-case-design-competition/1

Where's my 50£?
subtec 5th May 2011, 09:08 Quote
Quote:

You know... I could've sworn that it didn't start out as a "sponsorship voucher"... as I remember it, it was simply a gift certificate for that amount at Aquatuning. Changing it to a "sponsorship voucher" implies the prize is contingent on being used in a project build, giving AT sponsorship publicity. Nothing wrong with that per se, problem I would have with that is the change in terms sometime after the start of the contest. I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about any of this (or, conversely, remembers it like I do). Otherwise... shame on you guys.
Nitrix 5th May 2011, 09:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by subtec
You know... I could've sworn that it didn't start out as a "sponsorship voucher"... as I remember it, it was simply a gift certificate for that amount at Aquatuning. Changing it to a "sponsorship voucher" implies the prize is contingent on being used in a project build, giving AT sponsorship publicity. Nothing wrong with that per se, problem I would have with that is the change in terms sometime after the start of the contest. I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong about any of this (or, conversely, remembers it like I do). Otherwise... shame on you guys.

It has always been called this - we have no way to edit a bit-tech article.

All it means is the £50/£100 has to be spent on Phobya products.

@ Razer / Mick you will receive the information shortly.
subtec 5th May 2011, 09:36 Quote
I guess I must have remembered wrong. My apologies.
zulu9812 5th May 2011, 09:40 Quote
It's disappointing that Mick's case lost by a single vote. BlackOwl seems like a case only designed to take a single quad rad - seems like a waste, after months of a design competition. Hopefully someone picks up Proteus.
Mick64 5th May 2011, 10:18 Quote
I wasn't going to mention this, but while on the subject of competition terms, I was under the impression that Phobya was going to make the final decision on the winner from the top 3 in the final stage.

This is a quote from Nitrix in the first post of the Phobya water-cooled case design thread - FINAL STAGE :-

You will have 4 weeks to complete this stage. After that point the community will vote for the top 3 designs. Then these 3 designs will be forward to phobya to pick the winner.

If this changed, I must of missed it and I apologise, but it's been niggling me since no one has mentioned it.
subtec 5th May 2011, 10:51 Quote
This was mentioned a few pages back in this thread - apparently, because I withdrew they changed the whole final round; instead of voting for three favorites, it was just one vote, and instead of choosing from the top three, it was winner-take-all. The first sort of makes sense (it would've been a little odd to vote for three of only four choices), but the latter I'm not so sure about.

IMO, it would maybe have made more sense to choose between the top two. Though at this point, it wouldn't be fair to SnowyOwl to change it, so meh. I know it sucks for you, man - you've been waiting a long time to see your case made. Hope it happens for you soon.
Mick64 5th May 2011, 11:08 Quote
Of course I didn't want take anything away from Snowy. Just wanted clear up this niggling thought. Thanks subtec. ;)
Juipero 5th May 2011, 14:02 Quote
Proteus by mick64 is the best in my opinion. It has everything I need.
It has enough space for components and it is ready for water cooling.
If it should be on the market I would buy it immediately, because I'm stacking a new computer.
Juipero 5th May 2011, 14:05 Quote
Mick64

Proteus by mick64 is the best in my opinion. It has everything I need.
It has enough space for components and it is ready for water cooling.
If it should be on the market I would buy it immediately, because I'm stacking a new computer.
Juipero 5th May 2011, 14:08 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
Of course I didn't want take anything away from Snowy. Just wanted clear up this niggling thought. Thanks subtec. ;)

Is it ready for your computer, or is it just a case?
If it was a simple case, it would be better.;)
Juipero 5th May 2011, 14:12 Quote
Mick64 would win, because his computer case is simply the best ever.
Razer2007 5th May 2011, 15:08 Quote
Thank you Nitrix. :)

And subtec, it's OK. we all get confused sometimes.
bullseye 5th May 2011, 17:11 Quote
Double post
bullseye 5th May 2011, 17:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowyOwl
Maybe i will end up first..but...they did keep a backdoor :



So anything can happen until the real Winner is known

Good luck to everyone ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
Actually we have binned that idea due to the drop out - the community vote will be final and voting will be left open for 2 weeks to keep it fair.

For the community by the community.
DeadMan 5th May 2011, 17:30 Quote
Well done to all!
Juipero 5th May 2011, 18:35 Quote
My selection is Proteus by mick64.
Because it is just the right size, and undue delay efficient cooling.
If it should be on the market I would buy it immediately, because I'm building a new computer.
I've also noticed that there are very few decent water cooling computer case. Here it is.
avddreamr 6th May 2011, 01:53 Quote
@Mick64, with close to a 1000 posts, and over 100,000 views on the original thread for your case design on xtremesystems, I'm shocked that you didn't get 100 votes.
UrbanSmooth 6th May 2011, 02:49 Quote
Mick's case is simply better than the rest. More options, more space, and much more of a following.

Phobya, do the right thing, the SMART thing, the profitable thing, and choose Mick's Proteus.

THE GAMER'S CHOICE!
RS MAN 6th May 2011, 04:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
Mick's case is simply better than the rest. More options, more space, and much more of a following.

+1
Best design for future evolution.
Good case to install a big watercooling...
PabloFunky 6th May 2011, 05:30 Quote
Congratulations to the winner and all competitors.

Its pretty easy i think for Mick to go to any manufacturing company and have his case produced, i dont see what the problem is.
Unless its a problem with the cash funds obviously, then i understand

Get a prototype made, then no probs, Or get Waynio to build it.
Doumz 6th May 2011, 08:17 Quote
Been waiting so long to finally see you're case be complete mick,hopte to see news about it on XS soon ^^

Should have realised earlyer i had to make post on this forum so i could vote ...
Loz22085 11th May 2011, 18:54 Quote
I joined this forum so I can vote on the Proteus case by Mick64, but I have not been a member for 15 days yet so am not allowed to vote just yet. What I would like to know is what date does the voting end. Also will the case that come second ever get marketed.
confusis 12th May 2011, 01:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loz22085
I joined this forum so I can vote on the Proteus case by Mick64, but I have not been a member for 15 days yet so am not allowed to vote just yet. What I would like to know is what date does the voting end. Also will the case that come second ever get marketed.

Voting ended a week ago at least. Seems Mick has managed to get a few people joining to vote!
JCpewpew 16th May 2011, 07:42 Quote
i think alot of ppl joined to vote for these cases
shame mike didnt win
would of bought it right away
was looking for a case for watercooling, seems like i might have to wait it out abit and see if it goes into production or build my own =/
Bobfoc 18th May 2011, 23:43 Quote
Same here... :(

Tried posting, but I couldn't even post let alone vote on this thread...
Katsumi 25th May 2011, 21:37 Quote
Is there any progression? Whats the final verdict?
btw I agree with urbansmooth.
idontwannaknow 19th June 2011, 13:22 Quote
Hey There,

where can I buy the "Proteus by mick64" Case? I saw the poll few days ago :/

BUT the Proteus Case is the most powerfull Case I ever seen !! I bought few days ago the Corsair Obsidian. Anyway, I WANT THAT Proteus by mick64 CASE !!!

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS ?!?!?
dec0y 26th June 2011, 03:35 Quote
Well done everyone! (OMG THAT RHYMED). I can't wait to purchase a Black Owl!
rajinish09 27th June 2011, 21:09 Quote
Should have realised earlier i had to make post on this forum so i could vote:( ...Mick;)
confusis 14th July 2011, 22:10 Quote
Thread revival!

Phobya: How's the process of making this a production reality going? I'd love to see some pre-production sample pics!
Nitrix 18th July 2011, 12:14 Quote
Still working on the production file - you will have an update when we have something new to show but we are working on it :)
ockap1812 24th July 2011, 12:11 Quote
Please oh please Phobya do the right thing and have the Proteus case manufactured. I saw this thread a few months back and even created an account just to voice my opinion.
p0Pe 9th August 2011, 09:04 Quote
More people liked the black owl :) Including me, and I think it will look great when done!

Good work everybody.
GuilleAcoustic 11th August 2011, 09:50 Quote
Can't wait to see it live ... Snowy do you have some news from Phobya about the case ?
DPMIII 24th October 2011, 01:35 Quote
In my opinion, Proteus case is the ultimate in functionality and looks. Too bad I can't vote because I would love to buy that case! Can I have one built with no rivets for me?
faceplant 24th October 2011, 22:31 Quote
Have Phobya pulled the wool over everyones eyes, none of there partners even seem to make cases??? Phobya is just name for a group of companies that mass produce average components to sell their product under.

Six months later and theirs not a pip from the big case manufacturers on who has picked this up.

I've said it before but I think Mick64 needs to appraoch LianLi and the big boys direct.
Nitrix 24th October 2011, 22:35 Quote
Shows how much you know about Phobya :)

The winning case is still being worked on and you will see it shortly.

Along with Phobya's own case range.
GuilleAcoustic 25th October 2011, 09:48 Quote
I can't wait to see it ... trully. Can't we even see the shadows of an owl ? A lil' teasing ? A super tiny mini pico micro femto teasing ?
Tattysnuc 26th October 2011, 15:58 Quote
Any chance of a formal update about which was chosen, why (if it was not the highest voted one) and pictures of the work to date.

I'm really interested in seeing the concept to reality, and how the engineers are approaching the work. at the moment the concept(s) have disappeared into a big black hole and I'm itching to see what comes out the other side... :)
[USRF]Obiwan 27th October 2011, 08:53 Quote
As a consumer I like the Black/white owl more, But as a modder I like the Proteus.

If I really must to choose one of them it would be the smaller Black Owl. The Proteus is HUGE. I think the Black Owl takes just way less space in my room and looks more pleasing and it will fit on my table.


Just measure out the dimensions on your table and think again:

(W x D x H)
Proteus: 246 x 700 x 630mm
Black Owl: 230 x 585 x 545mm
Banger 3rd December 2011, 01:39 Quote
I would say phobya's case 1st nd black owl case 2nd
Bakes 3rd December 2011, 20:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banger
I would say phobya's case 1st nd black owl case 2nd

Voting ended ages ago, and Phobya are the company making the case.
GuilleAcoustic 3rd December 2011, 22:31 Quote
jeez, I though this post was to show the owl finaly built :D
Roboduck 10th January 2012, 13:32 Quote
Any word on when (if) we might be seeing this? I just noticed Aquatuning posted pictures of two new Phobya cases on their Facebook page (neither of which I would buy, talk about ugly ). I would LOVE one of the Black Owl cases though.
Nitrix 10th January 2012, 13:44 Quote
yup coming soooon ;)
Roboduck 10th January 2012, 14:35 Quote
confusis 10th January 2012, 17:36 Quote
Teaser pics.. please?
Roboduck 10th January 2012, 17:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by confusis
Teaser pics.. please?

+1 :D
Nitrix 10th January 2012, 17:37 Quote
when i have something ill share it :D
LVMike 16th January 2012, 04:47 Quote
Ive been away from water cooling for a while.
I would gladly buy the first or second place case today. I am looking forward to seeing one in production.


When do preorders start?:D
GuilleAcoustic 23rd April 2012, 15:37 Quote
Just wondering, but .... any news from Phobya ? It's been a year since the contest ended :(
Combatus 23rd April 2012, 16:10 Quote
I spoke to them about 6 weeks ago and they're still on track to make the case!
Mick64 19th September 2012, 20:28 Quote
Is this case ever going to see the light of day? I new it was going to take time to establish the manufacturing process because of the difficulties I've had trying to get my design off the drawing board. If Phobya are serious about producing this case, I would have expected to see something by now. At the very least I would have expected to see an occasional progress report! What is going on???
subtec 20th September 2012, 04:42 Quote
Considering their near total lack of participation/input/feedback during the contest, it doesn't surprise me in the least.
GuilleAcoustic 20th September 2012, 08:43 Quote
+1 .... really disapointed, such a high amount of work for nothing.
jrs77 25th September 2012, 15:51 Quote
I knew it back then allready, when I withdrew my entry.

Sorry for all those, who put in even more work into their entries then I did.
Roboduck 25th September 2012, 16:02 Quote
The design and manufacturing process does take a long time, but I'll agree it has been longer than usual.

I don't regret participating in the contest. It was a great opportunity to display our design skills and get our names out there. I'd participate in something like this again, althought it might make more sense to offer a one-off scratch built case as the prize instead of promising a production version.

Hopefully we still see Black Owl sometime in the future....
Mick64 27th September 2012, 12:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
I spoke to them about 6 weeks ago and they're still on track to make the case!

Nothing to say on the matter Combatus? :(
Nitrix 27th September 2012, 12:59 Quote
I have checked it out with the Bosses and some other projects did take priority but we have the sample being machined at the moment :O

ETA is around 3-4 weeks as its shipping by sea.
Nitrix 1st October 2012, 08:26 Quote
OK guys so a 16 page technical drawing landed on my desk this morning :D

and production has started! We should see the first sample for assessment in 3-4 weeks time

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/nitrix2009/pcase2.png

to show how detailed this sort of thing is this is the measurement for the mesh holes lol, can't give to much more away at this point.

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt191/nitrix2009/pcase1.png
GuilleAcoustic 1st October 2012, 08:58 Quote
Can't way : countdown ON :D
mnpctech 1st October 2012, 21:38 Quote
Happy to see this is becoming a Reality ;)
Roboduck 1st October 2012, 21:41 Quote
WooHoo! Glad to see the design looks pretty much the same. Thanks for the update Nitrix!
Combatus 1st October 2012, 23:51 Quote
Sorry for the delay guys. Worth the wait I think! Hopefully we can take a closer look at it soon.
Nitrix 1st October 2012, 23:54 Quote
We will be sending Combatus the prototype to check out actually ;)
Mick64 24th October 2012, 17:59 Quote
Decided to go public with my case design SketchUp models. Feel free to download and build, if you have the resources. Be warned, these files are very large! Download from here. Enjoy! ;)
Roboduck 24th October 2012, 18:02 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
Decided to go public with my case design SketchUp models. Feel free to download and build, if you have the resources. Be warned, these files are very large! Download from here. Enjoy! ;)

You build this bad boy yet? I'm still looking forward to seeing it in all its IRL glory ;)
Combatus 24th October 2012, 18:13 Quote
Can't remember if you did get a metal mock-up going. Should seriously get in touch with someone with a CNC if not. I know Editor22 has one and he's in the UK too :D
Roboduck 24th October 2012, 18:22 Quote
If you need some help getting technical drawings / SolidWorks models made I could help you with that.
Mick64 27th October 2012, 18:10 Quote
Thanks guys for your generous offers, but I have come to the conclusion that it is very unlikely that I will ever be in a position to build this case myself. It is very difficult for me to spend time designing, or pursuing any interests come to that. This is why I have decided to put my design in the public domain, in the hope that someone has the time and resources to take up the challenge.
Mick64 7th November 2012, 16:54 Quote
Another month has past. Still waiting to see Snowy's case. Can't Phobya provide any photos of the case in development? A small taste of what's to come would be better than nothing!
Nitrix 7th November 2012, 17:11 Quote
you will see some shortly ;) Unfortunately we cant get any until the case is in Germany and the sea freight is 8-12 weeks
Mick64 12th December 2012, 14:21 Quote
That's well over eight weeks now! Perhaps we'll see something in the new year? :(
Nitrix 12th December 2012, 14:35 Quote
Slightly sooner then that ;) shhhhhh!
Mick64 3rd January 2013, 09:06 Quote
What did I say?

Happy new year!
Nitrix 3rd January 2013, 09:20 Quote
We have the Alphacase, pictures will be up shortly. The Alpha is very rough around the edges and is unpainted etc but i will put the pics up shortly to show the progress.
Bindibadgi 3rd January 2013, 11:29 Quote
Someone squeezed a Mac Pro in a vice?

J/K! I'd certainly consider one if I could spec a WCing kit to fit exactly (only thing that puts me off now is stuff might not fit properly), but needs more fan-filters though?
Mankz 3rd January 2013, 11:33 Quote
I think that looks awesome!

It'd be nice if they also offered a version with a plain front though, for some of us sleek types.. Just don't cut the holes and offer that straight up for the same price as the holed one..

Looks like a very modable case though.
perplekks45 3rd January 2013, 11:41 Quote
Amazing, just like the original design! ;)
I especially like the fact that they tried to stay close to Snowy's design.
jrs77 3rd January 2013, 11:57 Quote
This looks good, considering they stayed with Snowy's design. It does lack options tho and can only host a single 360 radiator, which is a little bit weak these days.
Bakes 3rd January 2013, 12:25 Quote
This looks ****ing stunning.
Roboduck 3rd January 2013, 12:25 Quote
I'm glad they stuck with Snowy's design. Its a custom looking case for the mass market and I love it! Congrats to Snowy!
Spreadie 3rd January 2013, 13:10 Quote
I like the styling but I'm assuming that's not the finished article...

No CPU cutout, no fan filters, HDD vibration dampening, power switch?
[USRF]Obiwan 3rd January 2013, 13:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
This looks good, considering they stayed with Snowy's design. It does lack options tho and can only host a single 360 radiator, which is a little bit weak these days.

What do you mean with only one radiator? You can stick one in the top, hang on on the backside and a 360 in the bottom. How much options do you want? I have only one thing though. The 'pop' rivets on the drive cages and 360 cage should be replaced with screws. So people can strip te case with ease, if they want to. Looking at the images, it looks like a first prototype from factory. There are a lot of scratches on the metal. Some rivets or not completly through either.
SnowyOwl 3rd January 2013, 13:25 Quote
Thank you all for your comments.....I'm glad too they really made a great job on the styling part. Thanks to the Phobya team for this great opportunity....it's like a dream come through...from my screen to reality.
Nitrix 3rd January 2013, 13:25 Quote
As stated in the article this case is the Alpha, it will be VERY rough around the edges and unfinished / anodised its is simply for checking any mounting issues etc

The next stage will be the Beta addressing known issues with the case and looking at refining it with the anti vibration screws / filters etc. At this point reviewers like bit-tech will get the chance to review it and put forward improvements.
Chanc3 3rd January 2013, 13:28 Quote
BlackOwl looks quality! Love what has been done with the cable management and the HDDs
ACallander 3rd January 2013, 16:15 Quote
It's like Jony Ives rebuilt the Mac Pro when taking LSD.
jrs77 3rd January 2013, 17:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
How much options do you want?

For a case with this size, the TJ07 is the state of the art currently when it comes to options.
Parge 3rd January 2013, 17:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz
I think that looks awesome!

It'd be nice if they also offered a version with a plain front though, for some of us sleek types.. Just don't cut the holes and offer that straight up for the same price as the holed one..

Looks like a very modable case though.

I'm with mankz on this one. As much as I love the shape and WCing abilities, its a little too holey for my taste right now.
Cheapskate 3rd January 2013, 18:33 Quote
Awww, Yeah! :D and the best part is it's all aluminum.
+1 on what Mankz said. A short run of "blank canvas" cases might not be very profitable, but i guarantee we would gobble them up. I know what I want next year for Christmas.
subtec 3rd January 2013, 20:36 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowyOwl
Thank you all for your comments.....I'm glad too they really made a great job on the styling part. Thanks to the Phobya team for this great opportunity....it's like a dream come through...from my screen to reality.

Grats Snowy... I had my doubts this would ever get produced, but here it is. Aside from all the exterior screws and some changes to the vents, it looks very close to your original design.
Somer_Himpson 3rd January 2013, 21:33 Quote
It looks bloody awful.
faceplant 4th January 2013, 00:37 Quote
NOTE: I am about to take Phobya to the cleaners.......

I'm with the dude above....awful reproduction of the original design, no curves, its like a wheel with no AA.

Looks like cheap....very cheap aluminium, with nasty edges and horrible to touch,

bent metal looks weak re. legs.

no laser etched owl, surely this is a major selling point re. the name

cheap production method used to create holes, no filters, no anti vibration, who uses just 3 hard disks these days, mobo tray looks small with limited cut outs and doesn't look removable.

Looks like a half ass cheap chucked out of a crappy manufacturing plant kinda case.

I think Phobya need to go back and start again and do the designer and his design some justice and actually put some effort into a good looking design.
Roboduck 4th January 2013, 01:00 Quote
One word guys: Prototype ;)
Combatus 4th January 2013, 09:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roboduck
One word guys: Prototype ;)

Indeed. Please read the article properly before launching into scathing comments! :) It's a prototype mockup not the finished article by any means, and as such is devoid of many of the bells and whistles of a production case, including a decent finish, filters, anti vibration etc etc. It's purely so we can get an idea of what the case looks like and for Phobya to begin ironing out any issues.
Mick64 4th January 2013, 17:31 Quote
Although it's not the finished article, I am pleased (and relieved) to see that Snowy's dream is becoming a reality. I think Phobya have done a pretty good job at keeping to the original design. It's not always easy as production issues can prevent something on paper being made in the real world. I just hope the finished case doesn't take as long as the prototype!
elAwesome 4th January 2013, 18:05 Quote
This case looks so much like a Apple Mac Pro - handles, proportions, design, mesh front and back - it really looks like a heavily modded Apple Mac Pro!
Combatus 4th January 2013, 22:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
Although it's not the finished article, I am pleased (and relieved) to see that Snowy's dream is becoming a reality. I think Phobya have done a pretty good job at keeping to the original design. It's not always easy as production issues can prevent something on paper being made in the real world. I just hope the finished case doesn't take as long as the prototype!

And I hope we see your design in physical form at some point too ;)
OWNED66 6th January 2013, 11:36 Quote
Just over a year ago we teamed up with water-cooling and modding manufacturer Phobya to ask for "their" help in designing the perfect case for water-cooling.
NetSphere 7th January 2013, 00:12 Quote
Well, the case looks nice for a prototype. I'm not a watercooler myself, but I'm sure that by the time they start production, it'll look a fair bit more polished and even better. Personally, i'd veer more towards the black version of the Black Owl, given a choice between the two, but Silverstone seems to have that kind of look covered, and while there is a comparison to the G5, the same was applied to the Prodigy when it came out and AFAIK, everyone loves the prodigy.

My only wish is that they had actually built a system inside to see how all the parts fit inside. But I'm guessing since this is still at prototype stage, we won't get to see such a thing until they release a semi-final version.
Mick64 8th January 2013, 20:35 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
And I hope we see your design in physical form at some point too ;)

You never know! This is the reaction that I had hoped for when I released my SketchUp files! ;)
Mick64 30th January 2013, 17:19 Quote
Any more news on the case development? It would be nice to see an article in the magazine that describes the process. What problems there have been and the solutions, etc. When can we expect to see a production model, when will it be available to purchase, and how much will it cost? Now that we have seen the prototype, I was hoping that it wouldn't be long before Phobya produced the finished product. Are we in for another long wait? How much more development is required to turn the prototype into a saleable product? Is it even financially viable?
Nitrix 30th January 2013, 17:23 Quote
We think the Beta model will be about 4-6 weeks away, at which point Bit-tech will get a sample to give a first look / test and from the results we will then make the final changes and the production model will be made. :)
Combatus 31st January 2013, 22:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
We think the Beta model will be about 4-6 weeks away, at which point Bit-tech will get a sample to give a first look / test and from the results we will then make the final changes and the production model will be made. :)

There you have it. I'm sure we can add some details about the period between the competition being over and the physical case sitting in our lab. I'm excited to see it! :D
Mick64 20th March 2013, 13:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrix
We think the Beta model will be about 4-6 weeks away, at which point Bit-tech will get a sample to give a first look / test and from the results we will then make the final changes and the production model will be made. :)

Any news?
perplekks45 20th March 2013, 13:10 Quote
4-6 Phobya weeks = 8-12 Earth weeks ;)
Nitrix 20th March 2013, 13:11 Quote
We should have a reply and maybe some new pictures this week.
Mick64 24th April 2013, 05:53 Quote
Another month has past. :(
Mick64 16th May 2013, 00:55 Quote
That's 8 weeks folks!
mnpctech 16th May 2013, 13:37 Quote
This isn't on their Priority List?
perplekks45 17th May 2013, 07:28 Quote
Well, to be quite honest, they shouldn't make any promises about when they will show the next steps if they don't have it on their list of priorities.
http://www.theskyisnotyourlimit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/meerkat.jpg
Nitrix 17th May 2013, 09:52 Quote
Actually guys you have to understand that a project like this is a massive under taking, especially for a company like ours. We are not primarily a case manufacture, we do not have access to massive case production plants and simply re-brand any old case. We build them from the ground up.

Although it is a fun challenge its is very hard to effectively reverse engineer a case design. Firstly we have to take that design and work with our design team to put it into a format for our machines. At this point we will meet with the first headaches if the machines struggle with a particular part. Then it has to go back to the designers to find away of altering it while staying true to the design.

From here is the prototyping where we make the case, ship it to our offices at great costs and review it here we have to go over making sure every thing fits, identify weaknesses and problems then send it back to the designers. We have done this process several times up until the beta case you saw recently.

The current problem we encountered was quality, sure we could knock this out rapidly from china and it would have been here months ago. Then you would have moaned that the quality was not fitting for this type of case. So we have moved production in to the EU to a company well know for producing high quality bespoke cases. Problem being is they now have to tool up there machines and plot a efficient build process for the case. This takes time.

Good things come to those who wait.
Mick64 23rd May 2013, 17:03 Quote
I'll repeat my question... :(

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
Any more news on the case development? It would be nice to see an article in the magazine that describes the process. What problems there have been and the solutions, etc. When can we expect to see a production model, when will it be available to purchase, and how much will it cost? Now that we have seen the prototype, I was hoping that it wouldn't be long before Phobya produced the finished product. Are we in for another long wait? How much more development is required to turn the prototype into a saleable product? Is it even financially viable?
Nitrix 23rd May 2013, 17:06 Quote
Sadly we are still waiting for the beta case from the new producer.

I have asked again for an update so if i hear anything i will post it here.
Mick64 4th July 2013, 12:45 Quote
Tick tock tick tock :( Snowy, have you heard anything?
Nitrix 14th August 2013, 14:14 Quote
Let me just put these here:

http://s611.photobucket.com/user/nitrix2009/media/Work/DSC_0939_zpsb9e0ca46.jpg.html


http://s611.photobucket.com/user/nitrix2009/media/Work/DSC_0942_zps3d02d96d.jpg.html

Current status:

The case you see here is the complete Beta case at a MUCH higher quality then the first case. This is coming to the UK and will be at the i49 LAN party for people to take a look at next week. Pre-orders will be opening after i49 as the case goes into mass production.

Of course bit-tech will get there hands on this for review.
alain-s 14th August 2013, 20:22 Quote
Really love this design, Looking forward to see the first case mods of this case.

Keep up the good work!
Roboduck 14th August 2013, 20:27 Quote
Finally! ;)

Glad to see it IRL. Looks pretty good (want to see one in white B) now).
GuilleAcoustic 15th August 2013, 21:05 Quote
Finally :D ... can't wait to see the final version, in white ;)
SnowyOwl 16th August 2013, 19:35 Quote
Yeeeeeeah!!!!!!! White or Black more than happy to see it come to life! Thanks Nitrix
Combatus 5th September 2013, 11:47 Quote
We have something rather interesting in our lab :D In-depth look is only a few days away!
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