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Nvidia GTX 780 Ti announced

Nvidia GTX 780 Ti announced

Nvidia CEO, Jen Hsun Juang shows off the GTX 780 Ti.

Nvidia has unveiled its latest graphics card, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 ti.

Revealed at the company's The Way It's Meant To Be Played press event currently taking place in Montreal, Canada the new card will slot in between the GTX 780 and GTX Titan.

Jen Hsun Juang held the new card aloft, revealing that it looks externally identical to the company's existing high-end 700 series cards. However, few details of the new card were mentioned.

We'll be back shortly with more details once we get them through.

The card marks the final big announcement from the last two days of presentations, following the unveiling of new PhysX technologies, new game streaming technologies, a new game and Shield discount bundle and a new monitor technology.

Which of the new technologies has most caught your eye? Let us know in the forums.

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mi1ez 18th October 2013, 18:29 Quote
I guess this is no surprise as a release and definitely no surprise as a chassis, but I for one didn't see it coming...
Spreadie 18th October 2013, 18:44 Quote
Can I just say wtf?

You can clock a 780 past a Titan, and superclocked variants offer more performance than that WITH a warranty, but they're going to release a card that sits between the two?

Stop pissing around and just drop the price of the 780, ffs.
Dogbert666 18th October 2013, 18:49 Quote
Sigh.

I benchmark, therefore I am.
The_Crapman 18th October 2013, 18:55 Quote
The only point in this card is as a marketing middle finger to amd. My guess is that it will be a titan with only 3gb of vram.
OrangeClockwerk 18th October 2013, 19:19 Quote
Cannot begin to explain my level of disappointment. I am waiting for them to say its a joke and then pull out the 790gtx.
Kovoet 18th October 2013, 20:36 Quote
You know what nVidia do this all the time and we fall it or some people do. Yes we all know there is loads of green fans out there. But they do take the Mickey.

The freggin worse thing is I have just bought a780 that beats the titan in most games and then this comes out
SchizoFrog 18th October 2013, 20:57 Quote
I don't understand people complaining about this. It is a headline and attention grabber for the media to compete with AMD and keep nVidia in the minds of customers when they buy a GPU... or two.
If you have bought a high end GPU recently what is your problem with this card? I assume you were happy with your purchase before this announcement so what has changed? Just the fact that you no longer have the top dog GPU any more?
Speed 18th October 2013, 21:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
Can I just say wtf?

You can clock a 780 past a Titan, and superclocked variants offer more performance than that WITH a warranty, but they're going to release a card that sits between the two?

Stop pissing around and just drop the price of the 780, ffs.

Since when does overclocking a card using software void the warranty? :?

AMD are going to release a couple of cards that sit between the GTX780 and Titan, hardly a surprise that nVidia are going to counter that move by doing the same. I'll be honest, I'm not in the least bit shocked by this and it matters little.

Price drops if they appear will arrive after the 290 and 290X. Ultimately though, they are all top end cards and I don't think people will like the small amounts they are likely to be dropped by if they do drop at all. For the average consumer the top end stuff will just be shiny eye candy, not something they'll actually purchase. So prices can remain high and not really matter to 98% of AMDs and nVidias consumers. I'm not saying it is right of course but it is just the way it is.
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Originally Posted by SchizoFrog
I don't understand people complaining about this. It is a headline and attention grabber for the media to compete with AMD and keep nVidia in the minds of customers when they buy a GPU... or two.
If you have bought a high end GPU recently what is your problem with this card? I assume you were happy with your purchase before this announcement so what has changed? Just the fact that you no longer have the top dog GPU any more?

My sentiments exactly!
Spreadie 19th October 2013, 00:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Speed
Since when does overclocking a card using software void the warranty? :?
I was thinking more about voltage adjustments, but my point was the superclocks offer guaranteed overclocks.
Neogumbercules 19th October 2013, 02:11 Quote
Interested in seeing how much of an impact Mantle makes. If it really is that huge, then I can't see myself going nvidia next time around.
damien c 19th October 2013, 10:42 Quote
Still waiting for Maxwell myself, since my sli'd 680's are doing just fine at the moment.

Sure a 780 or 780ti will be a nice performance improvement but really I don't think the cost would be worth it, since I would need 2 card's and that is instantly around £1k.

I am more interested in this new Gsync, but will have to see how much the manufacturers of monitors drive the prices up.
IT Troll 19th October 2013, 10:59 Quote
Why can't I pre-order this now? It doesn't matter what the specs are or how much it costs, AMD have shown us the way it is meant to be payed.
YEHBABY 19th October 2013, 11:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by IT Troll
Why can't I pre-order this now? It doesn't matter what the specs are or how much it costs, AMD have shown us the way it is meant to be payed.

Lol, perfect username as well.
Corky42 19th October 2013, 11:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
Interested in seeing how much of an impact Mantle makes. If it really is that huge, then I can't see myself going nvidia next time around.

Well seeing as NVAPI has been going since 2008 with next to no interest i cant see Mantel doing any better, but maybe as AMD have the advantage of being in most next gen consoles it will gain more traction.

What we need is someone to knock the manufactures heads together.
Instead they keep coming up with proprietary system that split consumers and developers, while this may make good business sense for them its holding back the wide spread adoption of some very good innovations.
Cei 19th October 2013, 12:11 Quote
It'll probably be a 780, lightly overclocked, but with the 6GB VRAM of a Titan. There's not really any other options!
IT Troll 19th October 2013, 12:45 Quote
I think it will be closer to the Quadro K6000 which has 2880 cores @ 902 MHz to deliver 5.2 TFLOPS. Surely Nvidia will want to match/beat the 290X in the numbers game?
siliconfanatic 19th October 2013, 17:29 Quote
They' ll more likely than not stay on top with the numbers part via either the titan ultra or the gtx 790... No doubt, they'll be priced at insanely high proportions...
Gradius 19th October 2013, 21:20 Quote
I don't care. Got 770 just now, good enough for my 1080p monitor and TV.
DbD 21st October 2013, 10:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
Interested in seeing how much of an impact Mantle makes. If it really is that huge, then I can't see myself going nvidia next time around.

Mantle is 90% marketing, 10% product. It'll exist for the odd game AMD pays for and that's it. No dev is going to spend extra time/money to speed up a game for 10% of it's potential customers, who would probably buy the game or not anyway irrespective of mantle. The benefit for the dev just isn't there.

The 780Ti isn't that exciting either imo - it'll just be slightly faster and slightly more expensive then the 290X to make sure nvidia keeps the single gpu crown. It's all much of the same till 20nm chips appear.
skunkmunkey 21st October 2013, 11:09 Quote
Just bought a gtx 780....ASShats!!!!
SimoomiZ 21st October 2013, 12:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by DbD
Mantle is 90% marketing, 10% product. It'll exist for the odd game AMD pays for and that's it. No dev is going to spend extra time/money to speed up a game for 10% of it's potential customers, who would probably buy the game or not anyway irrespective of mantle. The benefit for the dev just isn't there.

The 780Ti isn't that exciting either imo - it'll just be slightly faster and slightly more expensive then the 290X to make sure nvidia keeps the single gpu crown. It's all much of the same till 20nm chips appear.

Maybe... But occasionally game changers do come along. If Mantle is all that . AMD would be wise to pay for a mantle level within a new game , or get a dev to add a 'beyond ultra' setting to some title (greyed out for non- compatible cards).

Something in which it can really show what vastly higher draw call/frame potential could do to introduce more variety into games. Futuremark or another, may also agree to let a 'mantle' benchmark prove that Titan beating potential AMD spoke of? Nvidia would then surely have to react, if AMD's top card was handling with ease some benchmark Titan was struggling with.
Corky42 21st October 2013, 13:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by SimoomiZ
Nvidia would then surely have to react, if AMD's top card was handling with ease some benchmark Titan was struggling with.
Nvidia reacted 5 years ago with NVAPI, AMD is merely leveraging the advantage they have in the console market to enable cross platform games to run on a lower spec AMD GPU than Nvidia.
I doubt games on the PC will be written to take advantage of Mantel, instead Mantel will be used to bring console optimisations to the PC.
ssj12 22nd October 2013, 20:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Corky42
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Originally Posted by SimoomiZ
Nvidia would then surely have to react, if AMD's top card was handling with ease some benchmark Titan was struggling with.
Nvidia reacted 5 years ago with NVAPI, AMD is merely leveraging the advantage they have in the console market to enable cross platform games to run on a lower spec AMD GPU than Nvidia.
I doubt games on the PC will be written to take advantage of Mantel, instead Mantel will be used to bring console optimisations to the PC.

Do we even know of Mantel is apart of the console SDKs?
fingerbob69 23rd October 2013, 11:06 Quote
If in performance this is more than a 780 but less than a Titan, then presumably that's where it will sit price wise... also between the two exsisting cards.

Over to Amd and the 290x.... let's see what ya got!
Gareth Halfacree 23rd October 2013, 11:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by ssj12
Do we even know of Mantel is apart of the console SDKs?
It's not. Microsoft has already stated that the Xbox One will not support Mantle (no surprise there,) while Sony hasn't said either way - but it's thought the PS4 won't be supporting it either.
Corky42 23rd October 2013, 11:57 Quote
Odd as AMD's own blog states the following...
http://community.amd.com/community/amd-blogs/amd-gaming/blog/2013/10/17/the-four-core-principles-of-amd-s-mantle
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The preeminence of Graphics Core Next is the hardware answer to these concerns, unifying the console ecosystem (and much of the PC market) under a common graphics architecture. But Mantle is the software remedy for these difficult choices, allowing developers to uniformly work across multiple platforms in a single endeavor—consoles and PCs may be treated equitably.

Am i confusing SDK's with the words AMD are using to describe what seems like a unifying system ?
SimoomiZ 23rd October 2013, 16:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
It's not. Microsoft has already stated that the Xbox One will not support Mantle (no surprise there,) while Sony hasn't said either way - but it's thought the PS4 won't be supporting it either.

In their article explaining Mantle, Anandtech stated : "... it’s either a direct copy or a very close derivative of the Xbox One’s low level graphics API". Clearly that's not going to be the case with recent statements from Microsoft.

If Xbone ends up stuck with high level(performance sapping) DirectX, purely for political reasons . i.e., MS fears about a more open API - allowing a 'free' open platform, like the planned Steam OS to really take off. Then is it right to say their console could lose 'low level' possibilities altogether? Sony have also apparently said the PS4 won't be using Mantle either . Although, PlayStation 4 supports hUMA ; compute, queues and pipelines, whereas Xbox One does not . Sony also stated they'll support devs in going 'direct to metal' as soon as possible. There was the LibGCM interface for the PS3, which suggests that's likely.
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