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Rumour: AMD Radeon HD 7000 series to hit early December

Rumour: AMD Radeon HD 7000 series to hit early December

It's not yet known whether AMD's first 28nm GPUs will be desktop or mobile chips.

The Internet is currently abuzz with the suggestion that the first releases from AMD’s Radeon HD 7000 series of GPUs are on course to arrive in the first two weeks of December.

The news broke via German tech site heise online, which cites its sources as naming 6 December specifically for the launch of AMD's new 28nm GPUs.

However, it's not yet known whether these 28nm GPUs will be mobile or desktop chips. AMD has recently shown off working samples of its 28nm mobile GPUs, which are likely to form a part of the company's forthcoming Radeon HD 7000-series line-up. However, the company has so far remained tight-lipped about 28nm desktop GPUs, as well as any architectural changes.

Heise's sources apparently also suggest that supply is going to be very limited at first, as TSMC is allegedly having some difficulties with its 28nm production process.

This, if true, doesn’t surprise us at all, as TSMC had similar problems with its 40nm production process a couple of years back, and ended up skipping the 32nm process altogether.

Still, AMD will have a few months of bragging rights if it can get a few chips based on 28nm silicon out of the door in December, as Nvidia has previously confirmed that it won’t have any new releases this year. Of course, it would also enable AMD to avoid the embarrassing situation of failing to live up to its own roadmap, which promised 28nm silicon in the market in 2011.

Will you be on the lookout for a new GPU later this year to deal with Battlefield 3 at high settings, or will you be waiting until Nvidia releases its new range before making any decisions? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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wuyanxu 18th October 2011, 11:37 Quote
it'll most likely be laptop parts using process designed for smaller chips, like the process used for 28nm FPGA's.

both company will probably come out with high end chips at around similar time next year. March is my guess.
Instagib 18th October 2011, 11:46 Quote
Another paper launch then.
l3v1ck 18th October 2011, 11:47 Quote
It needs to be right at the start of December if they want to get Christmas sales. By two weeks in many people will already have bought everything they want to give. Of course if "supplies are limited" it won't make much difference as there will alawys be a few who buy the latest and greatest as soon as it is available.

I'm just hoping for much more tesselation from this card.
lp1988 18th October 2011, 11:57 Quote
won't be home untill january anyway so I just hope there will be something out by that time, would like to upgrade for BF3 and Skyrim
bogie170 18th October 2011, 11:59 Quote
99% sure it won't be the high end 7970 or 7990 gamers crave!
damien c 18th October 2011, 12:15 Quote
Not interested in the ATI card's unless they can finally beat Nvidia properly and by that I mean:

Better Performance
Lower Power Usage
Lower Temperatures
Lower Noise Level's
Lower Cost's

I will wait for the Nvidia card's, simply because they have never failed me with Driver's or Performance.

If ATI do get the 7 series card's out in December they will probably be the low end chip's rather than high end.

I can see there only being a small amount if TMC are having issues which may mean stupidly high prices.
lilgoth89 18th October 2011, 12:35 Quote
might make the jump if the performance / power usage is up to scratch. im fed up of the
nvidia driver 280.xx has stopped responded but has recovered / restarted
in the middle of a game i cant have the screen going blank for 10 seconds at a time ( usually crashing the game at the time)
does it at random intervals as well sometimes even just web-browsing

noise levels dont bother me to much, most companies offer better / quieter coolers anyway
MSI's twin frozr II / III
Asus driectCUII
gigabyte windforce II / III
Gainward phantom
etc etc
[ZiiP] NaloaC 18th October 2011, 12:40 Quote
If their 7870 is respectable, i may upgrade from my 5870. The card has been an absolute monster and done me proud with its performance.
MrJay 18th October 2011, 12:42 Quote
My 6850 is a beautiful card!
Runs everything i can throw at in on 1600X1050 (I know i have a strange monitor).
Ill be jumping on ther 7000 series after christmas when i update my current MB.
loftie 18th October 2011, 12:47 Quote
I'm surprised Green and Red aren't both rushing to get cards out for the BF3 release imo. It seems to be the game that requires most people to upgrade
damien c 18th October 2011, 13:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by loftie
I'm surprised Green and Red aren't both rushing to get cards out for the BF3 release imo. It seems to be the game that requires most people to upgrade

I think they are not to concerened about it considering Dice have said you need 2 card's to run it at the maximum setting's on a single display.

Makes sence for them to not release a new high end card, if they can sell a few extra of there current top end card's for those people who want dual card setup's for BF3.

I'm not buying till next year so by then hopefully the PCI-E 3.0 card's will be out, and better looking games than we have now, apart from BF3.
Mentai 18th October 2011, 13:41 Quote
I've spent the last few years on AMD cards and while decent, have had more driver issues than back when I was using nvidia. It could be that issues are about equal these days, or dependent on games, but either way I think I'm going for nvidia in my next build.
K404 18th October 2011, 13:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by damien c
Not interested in the ATI card's unless they can finally beat Nvidia properly and by that I mean:

Better Performance
Lower Power Usage
Lower Temperatures
Lower Noise Level's
Lower Cost's

I thought that for the last year or so, ATI comfortably beat nVidia for power consumption and cost/performance ratio? Noise Vs temperature.... depends on the HSF and its setting.

What do you mean by finally? I thought the ATi 5 series Vs nVidia 4-series was quite convincing?

All-out performance, nVidia wins, sure, but at what power consumption?
[USRF]Obiwan 18th October 2011, 13:48 Quote
Since almost every game is a console port. don't need new GPU.
jakobfrimmel 18th October 2011, 13:49 Quote
uhhh looks like i need to start saving :)
V3ctor 18th October 2011, 14:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ZiiP
NaloaC]If their 7870 is respectable, i may upgrade from my 5870. The card has been an absolute monster and done me proud with its performance.

I'll just upgrade when the HD8000 series come out, I don't see my HD5870 failing in performance... I just hope she doesn't die, my warranty ended days ago.

Never had a card that lasted this long
wafflesomd 18th October 2011, 14:52 Quote
I feel like we have more than enough hardware to run basically anything these days. Would be nice to see some games really taking advantage of the available hardware.
Doctor Hades 18th October 2011, 15:00 Quote
I'll be waiting for the new NVIDIA graphics cards myself which will likely come out around the time I plan on buying a new PC with the latest Intel CPU so I can certainly wait. It's not like my current Core i7-920, 6 GB, GTX 580, Windows 7 SP1 system isn't capable of running almost every game I play at 1920x1200 on maxed out settings anyway so I have absolutely no need to upgrade any time soon.

Also after seven disappointing months of using AMD HD 5870 CFX I've decided that their cards are not for me, not because the hardware isn't up to scratch but simply because their drivers aren't IMO. Ignoring PhysX (since only a handful of games make use of it anyway), NVIDIA's superb game profiles and the ease at which you can add anti-aliasing compatibility flags to force AA in unsuppported games gives them the edge over AMD in my eyes. Of course, if you're not bothered about those things then AMD cards are usually very good value.
thehippoz 18th October 2011, 18:47 Quote
I'll be at the blackjack tables yelling.. diddy needs a new gpu!
ssj12 18th October 2011, 18:49 Quote
This is probably AMD trying to beat Nvidia to market with 28nm, which from what I've heard Nvidia will most likely win with the the 6xxm line.
PingCrosby 18th October 2011, 19:09 Quote
I like Rumours, my favourite track is "You Make Loving Fun"..... its right class like innit.
Sloth 18th October 2011, 21:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ZiiP] NaloaC
If their 7870 is respectable, i may upgrade from my 5870. The card has been an absolute monster and done me proud with its performance.
Not sure if you're already factoring this in or not, but be aware that the 7970 will be the card which fits in the price/performance bracket that the 5870 filled.

Fingers crossed for Sapphire releasing a 7970 Vapor-X. Powerful card with a cool and quiet HSF? Yes sir, I like it.
Kovoet 18th October 2011, 21:06 Quote
I am so looking forward to seeing what comes out with these
Nikols 18th October 2011, 22:50 Quote
First signs of panic???

"look look we can still make video cards! Everybody look away from the elephant..."
kzinti1 18th October 2011, 23:49 Quote
I'd be happy if they could find someone who can actually create drivers correctly.
slothy89 19th October 2011, 04:43 Quote
Waiting for Keplar here.. ATi lost me at AMD
thehippoz 19th October 2011, 06:43 Quote
wonder how much a 7970 will sell for new.. interested in the pyrit numbers- could always sell off the 6970 if it's something worthwhile.. or run them both :D that would be sick... and expensive
fluxtatic 19th October 2011, 06:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilgoth89
might make the jump if the performance / power usage is up to scratch. im fed up of the
nvidia driver 280.xx has stopped responded but has recovered / restarted
in the middle of a game i cant have the screen going blank for 10 seconds at a time ( usually crashing the game at the time)
does it at random intervals as well sometimes even just web-browsing

noise levels dont bother me to much, most companies offer better / quieter coolers anyway
MSI's twin frozr II / III
Asus driectCUII
gigabyte windforce II / III
Gainward phantom
etc etc

Huh...that's exactly why I dumped the first AMD card I'd ever bought and went back to Nvidia...I mean the exact same problem. MSI was fairly useless (although nice) in support, so I went home again - Nvidia GPU on an ASUS card. I never should have strayed...

For AMD's sake, I hope they get them out the door and that they're good - I don't think I've ever seen a company lose money quarter after quarter like AMD and not go belly-up.

So, any chance AMD's GPU engineers can teach their CPU engineers how to not suck? :P
mediapcAddict 19th October 2011, 20:13 Quote
speculated on wikipedia:
7970 ( top of line single gpu card ) will have
2048:128:64 @1000mhz
compared with 6970
1536:96:32 @ 880

(shaders:textures:renders)
33% on shaders 13% on speed.

If correct I would guess 30 - 40% speed boost from 6970 to 7970. I doubt there will be a real choice of cards till march though. Damn bitcoin miners will snap these up for comparative power efficiency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units
BlackRaven 21st October 2011, 16:28 Quote
Well let's wait and see. The only reason I'm looking forward to this is that the current hw might get cheaper.
mejobloggs 23rd October 2011, 15:13 Quote
I'm really looking forward to these new ones. Regardless of brand (nvidia/amd)

Hoping for some nicely lowered power consumption
timevans999 27th October 2011, 18:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by damien c
Not interested in the ATI card's unless they can finally beat Nvidia properly and by that I mean:

Better Performance
Lower Power Usage
Lower Temperatures
Lower Noise Level's
Lower Cost's

I will wait for the Nvidia card's, simply because they have never failed me with Driver's or Performance.

If ATI do get the 7 series card's out in December they will probably be the low end chip's rather than high end.

I can see there only being a small amount if TMC are having issues which may mean stupidly high prices.
timevans999 27th October 2011, 18:32 Quote
bullshit
adidan 29th October 2011, 11:57 Quote
Think I'll hold off on the 4870x2 upgrade and see what December brings. :)
Ahadihunter1 3rd November 2011, 14:21 Quote
It may be clean to say - they just want more money unless my hunch is incorrect; in terms of "Next generation" there is no reason to buy unless there is a good reason to do so - likewise if Direct X 12 comes out... bcause frankly my 6970 is doing more than enough...

and what the above guy said - if even the slightest reason to buy the cards would be apt, I desire these too:


Better Performance;
Lower Power Usage;
Lower Temperatures;
Lower Noise Level's;
Lower Cost's.
aaronbraich 6th December 2011, 18:02 Quote
Have I missed something? It's the 6th today and I haven't heard anything about new cards released or any dates? :/

I'm building a new BF3 pc for xmas. Any know any more info?

Thanks?
thehippoz 6th December 2011, 21:41 Quote
delayed from what I was reading.. q1 2012

should be a beast of a card though.. we'll if you listen to hype
adidan 7th December 2011, 00:18 Quote
Aye, the die shrink cards are due Q1 and the new architecture later on in the year. At the mo it's the mobile version isn't it? Rumours out the mobile version is now appearing in a HP and an Asus lappy.

Was the 6th a date given by AMD? I thought the main news was going to be at CES?
aaronbraich 8th December 2011, 16:49 Quote
Thanks for the info. The 6th was mentioned either earlier in this thread or on one of the links within this.

The reason i'm asking is because I currently have a 4890 on a 1680x1050 and it doesn't cut it for bf3. I need a new card for xmas and have a budget of £170. Any ideas could you pm me i'm thinking 560ti but i don't know if the higher core version is worth the extra cash?

Also, i'm looking to start a new build in jan so was waiting before ordering my parts as the prices will drop for the older cards.
Fizzban 8th December 2011, 18:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronbraich
The reason i'm asking is because I currently have a 4890 on a 1680x1050 and it doesn't cut it for bf3. I need a new card for xmas and have a budget of £170. Any ideas could you pm me i'm thinking 560ti but i don't know if the higher core version is worth the extra cash?

Also, i'm looking to start a new build in jan so was waiting before ordering my parts as the prices will drop for the older cards.


Can't go wrong with a 560ti or a HD 6950 really. If you don't want to wait for the 7xxx or 6xx series, then either of those will do a grand job.
leslie 8th December 2011, 23:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by damien c
I will wait for the Nvidia card's, simply because they have never failed me with Driver's or Performance.

Maybe for you, but there was that whole driver frying cards and then of course that whole 8400m thing.

After the way they treated both of those fiascos, I'm sticking with AMD. Driver issues are fixable by reverting, fried or poorly made cards are not, especially if that card is in a very expensive laptop (like mine). "Darn my game glitched" is preferable to "sorry to hear your graphics card is fried and $2000 laptop is defective, but look on the bright side, it's a great time to upgrade to one of our soon to be retired graphics cards, we recommend Nvidia! Don't forget, in 3 months Fermi will be here, and you can upgrade again! ;)"

Until Nvidia makes serious changes (or AMD royally screws up), they get as little of my money as possible.

There is a special place in hell for that company.
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