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Virgin Media shows off 1.5Gb/sec broadband

Virgin Media shows off 1.5Gb/sec broadband

Communications minister Ed Vaizey was on hand to see the trial in action.

Virgin Media today announced the beginning of a small-scale trial of a 1.5Gb/sec broadband connection in London.

Originally announced back in April, the network is now up and running, offering blistering speeds in the Old Street area of the city. This area is also where TechHub is located; a community and workspace for technology entrepreneurs.

The service, which is the fastest in the world, is only at the testing stage at the moment, but Virgin Media has said, tantalisingly, that it uses the same DOCSIS2 backend infrastructure that's used by its current 100Mb/s service.

The 1.5Gb/sec download connection, which is 240 times faster than the national average broadband speed, comes complete with a maximum theoretical upload speed of 150Mb/sec, and Virgin says the project was made possible by the company’s £13 billion private investment in its fibre optic network.

We’re unlikely to be seeing these kinds of connections rolled out across the country any time soon, but it's still exciting to see projects such as this being trialled. Communications minister Ed Vaizey, who was at the unveiling of the trial agrees, stating that ‘it is fantastic to see the fastest internet speeds in the world over cable being trialled here in the UK.

Is there any need for such a high-speed connection? Will faster internet connections change the way we use the Web? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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samkiller42 26th July 2011, 17:03 Quote
When can those in non cable areas get anything decent is my thought tbh. As good as this sounds, it still leaves alot of us brits in the dark ages.

Sam
Musicboffin 26th July 2011, 17:03 Quote
Isn't it DOCSIS3 and not 2?
Material 26th July 2011, 17:09 Quote
I'm not certain. The press release seems to contradict itself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The press release
The DOCSIS2 technology used throughout Virgin Media's network provides a future-proofed platform with theoretically near infinite capacity. Virgin Media is able to bond multiple downstream and upstream channels together to be used at the same time by a single subscriber to deliver faster speeds. DOCSIS 3.0, the current standard used throughout Virgin Media's network, also incorporates support for Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6).
Dwarfer 26th July 2011, 17:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by samkiller42
When can those in non cable areas get anything decent is my thought tbh. As good as this sounds, it still leaves alot of us brits in the dark ages.

Sam

I agree. I used to live in Leeds literally a couple of miles from the centre yet I was stuck on 7Mbps!! Shocking. Only round the corner you could get 50Mb fibre optic!

So I now how frustrating it can be for those still stuck on poor ADSL Lines! Surely, if VM can afford to trial 1.5Gb/sec then it would be more effective for them to put Fibre Optic throughout the UK!
TomH 26th July 2011, 17:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Musicboffin
Isn't it DOCSIS3 and not 2?
That's what I thought. Wikipedia appears to agree.

Sam: it's only a showcase. They still won't be able to provide a proper service because they're fundamentally backwards as an entity. The sync may look impressive, but the throughput & the politics surrounding it is still going to be crap.

The real game is getting a single-mode fibre (or pair) into everyone's home. You're up to 10Gigabit Ethernet there with affordable optics, which will only get cheaper.

BTOR do already run single-mode fibre in for 100Mbit speeds via their FTTP/FTTC push in some areas (and other small start-ups are doing similar things) but despite being 'only 100Mbit' right now, in the places where the fibre is in, it's going to be able to scale very easily without mega investment (i.e. digging up the road) for years to come.
NuTech 26th July 2011, 17:11 Quote
Hard to be excited about stuff like this when they can't even sort out their existing tech.

I was a big fan of Virgin Media (I'm on their 50Mb) until they introduced traffic shaping at peak times (5pm-midnight). Now, I have no problem with them wanting to throttle 'shady' traffic like Bit-torrent etc, but the system they use keeps accidentally interfering with stuff like youtube, iPlayer, xbox live, MMO's etc. They constantly deny it, or claim it's an isolated incident, but one look at their forums and you'll see just how isolated it is.
TomH 26th July 2011, 17:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwarfer
So I now how frustrating it can be for those still stuck on poor ADSL Lines! Surely, if VM can afford to trial 1.5Gb/sec then it would be more effective for them to put Fibre Optic throughout the UK!
No, they'll continue to eek as much out of their DOCSIS investment as possible without digging up the streets again to run FTTP. Of course 1.5Gbit is an impressive demonstration and a credit to the DOCSIS Engineers, but the real-world issues for Virgin Media are in their backhaul and in their board room, not their last mile.
Podge4 26th July 2011, 17:15 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by NuTech
Now, I have no problem with them wanting the throttle 'shady' traffic like Bit-torrent etc, but the system they use keeps accidentally interfering with stuff like youtube, iPlayer, xbox live, MMO's etc. They constantly deny it, or claim it's an isolated incident, but one look at their forums and you'll see just how isolated it is.

That part sounds very much like you could be talking about bt too.
rogerrabbits 26th July 2011, 17:26 Quote
Woo for virgin 1.5Gb/sec throttled down to 5kb/s between the hours of 9am and 8:59am.
Fizzban 26th July 2011, 17:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by NuTech
Hard to be excited about stuff like this when they can't even sort out their existing tech.

I was a big fan of Virgin Media (I'm on their 50Mb) until they introduced traffic shaping at peak times (5pm-midnight). Now, I have no problem with them wanting the throttle 'shady' traffic like Bit-torrent etc, but the system they use keeps accidentally interfering with stuff like youtube, iPlayer, xbox live, MMO's etc. They constantly deny it, or claim it's an isolated incident, but one look at their forums and you'll see just how isolated it is.

I'm on 50meg too and I gotta say this traffic shaping is pissing me off. I get perfect download and upload speeds, yet streaming a youtube video is a joke some days. Don't they realise most of the heavy downloaders don't even use bit-torrent anymore? They are shaping it for nothing.
NuTech 26th July 2011, 17:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzban
I'm on 50meg too and I gotta say this traffic shaping is pissing me off. I get perfect download and upload speeds, yet streaming a youtube video is a joke some days. Don't they realise most of the heavy downloaders don't even use bit-torrent anymore? They are shaping it for nothing.
It's ridiculous.

I use a wired Ethernet connection from our Virgin router to my computer. But at times I find myself switching over to our much slower WiFi Sky Broadband ADSL router (we get it free with our Sky TV) just to watch a Youtube video uninterrupted.

It's crazy the lengths ISP's go to just so they can advertise 'Unlimited' broadband.
SchizoFrog 26th July 2011, 17:55 Quote
I live in East London and we still don't have cable either. It is not just rural areas that are being left behind.
Jaybles 26th July 2011, 17:57 Quote
I would rather instead of putting £13billion into their fibre network they spent the money bringing ADSL 2+ to the rest of the country.

Here i have the option of BT ADSL or BT ADSL Max.

BT have a monopoly here.

Oh and my speeds are ever decreasing.
Taniniver 26th July 2011, 18:00 Quote
Interesting, but pointless. I've never had a connection from them (hate the company), but I've used it at a friends and struggled to download a file at 50 kilobytes a second at peak times, on a "20 Megabit" connection.

Also, how does it connect to the PC? Even Gigabit ethernet couldn't keep up, and who has a 10 Gig ethernet port here. Anyone?
Sensei 26th July 2011, 18:15 Quote
Man, Im still on 1.5mb, thats why I stopped online gaming. The lag was a killer.
Dwarfer 26th July 2011, 18:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taniniver
Interesting, but pointless. I've never had a connection from them (hate the company), but I've used it at a friends and struggled to download a file at 50 kilobytes a second at peak times, on a "20 Megabit" connection.

Also, how does it connect to the PC? Even Gigabit ethernet couldn't keep up, and who has a 10 Gig ethernet port here. Anyone?

Don't get confused with Cable & ADSL. Virgin offer both!

If your friend was on 20Mb but could barely hit 50b/sec then A) his connection has a serious problem or B) he's on ADSL and limited due to poor copper wiring either in the home or in the street.
aka_jesse 26th July 2011, 18:25 Quote
i don't ive in a cabled area either, every street around mine is, but not this one. we had a letter in 1997 saying they would be doing it shortly and apologising for any inconvenience, we are still waiting for them. so it's ADSL for me. this country is awful at updating it's infrastructure.
fuus 26th July 2011, 18:31 Quote
and here we are.. 3mb here.. :S damn the countryside
Phil Rhodes 26th July 2011, 18:35 Quote
Quote:
1.5Gb/sec broadband

What is point?

I have, in theory, something like 38Mbps to the exchange here, via FTTC. I still can't str.... eam youtube vi.... deos at a reso... lution of 360 by.... 240 without it.... going like thi....

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...s.

Displaying a very big number to the users at home means nothing when you can't actually connect them to anywhere else at a worthwhile rate. Speedtest.net indicates I get 38Mbps to somewhere in Kent, but barely 6Mbps to my buddy in Los Angeles. The performance in many cases is not noticeably better than basic ADSL because the link between me and the exchange is not the limiting factor. This is a particularly insidious problem as it is not down to any one organisation to fix it, so everyone just says "well, there's no point in us upgrading our links, we'll just get throttled by someone else".

Left to its own devices, industry will not solve this.
SASKing 26th July 2011, 18:46 Quote
My street can't get Cable, there is an electified track running along side and National Rail won't allow them to cable under it. I have to make do with ADSL from Sky. I have a 20Mbit connection and get average download speeds of 2Mbits/s and a Ping of 25-30 on games. So not too bad,
Fizzban 26th July 2011, 18:54 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by NuTech
It's crazy the lengths ISP's go to just so they can advertise 'Unlimited' broadband.

Unlimited, except when it isn't. What really chafes is it was properly unlimited at first.

They are pushing the fact you can download as much as you want, and that's great. But the majority of the time we don't download, we stream. It almost makes me want to get 100meg just to be rid of the poxy traffic shaping. But I just know it will be more hassle than I want to deal with right now.

It is a solid connection other than that, but this is an area they really need to rethink. If I get sucky latency or drop-outs/disconnects when SW:TOR ships, I will give them a rocket.
Canon 26th July 2011, 18:57 Quote
So when are they going to bother laying something decent in Belfast?, UKs 15th largest city and all we get is shitty leftovers.
NuTech 26th July 2011, 19:07 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzban
Unlimited, except when it isn't. What really chafes is it was properly unlimited at first.

They are pushing the fact you can download as much as you want, and that's great. But the majority of the time we don't download, we stream. It almost makes me want to get 100meg just to be rid of the poxy traffic shaping. But I just know it will be more hassle than I want to deal with right now.

It is a solid connection other than that, but this is an area they really need to rethink. If I get sucky latency or drop-outs/disconnects when SW:TOR ships, I will give them a rocket.
Traffic shaping applies to the 100Mb package too - in fact, all things considered, the 100Mb connection will just cause more problems.

From what I've read on the forums, the supplied 'Superhub' is an absolute disaster (however apparently the situation is improving after multiple firmware upgrades). Also it's worth noting that you have to use the Superhub with 100Mb as it's a combined cable modem and router.
fdbh96 26th July 2011, 19:14 Quote
I think they would be better off upgrading the current system aswell a we just got asdl 2 and before I had to wait for a YouTube video to load to watch it but now I can watch as soon as the webpage loads
Surprising what difference stuff like that makes :)
Toploaded 26th July 2011, 19:18 Quote
I was grateful when I was only able to get 2mb/s, I'm over the moon now I get 4mb/s, all for a very reasonable monthly figure.
IonKnight 26th July 2011, 19:59 Quote
Guys please don't moan that ur connection is slow when ur on a 20meg connection think of the ppl like me who are on 1mb connection and i'm not in the countryside. So count urself lucky that u can even watch you tube without buffering the video. Also i'm guessing ur all aware but have u thought of formatting ur machine before u call ur ISP ur pc could be just full of spyware/malware cloging up ur internet connection.
SaNdCrAwLeR 26th July 2011, 20:14 Quote
only now UK? srsly?
Hypno 26th July 2011, 20:16 Quote
The most annoying thing is that they spent around 6 months putting the pipes through my village a few years back but didn't install the cable ffs!
JohnSheridan 26th July 2011, 20:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuus
and here we are.. 3mb here.. :S damn the countryside

Not only countryside - I'm in Northampton (pop around 200k) and all I can get is just under 3mb/s

BT said they were doing FTTC in Dec 2011 but that has now slipped to March 2012 (if we're lucky!)
Fizzban 26th July 2011, 21:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by NuTech
Traffic shaping applies to the 100Mb package too - in fact, all things considered, the 100Mb connection will just cause more problems.

From what I've read on the forums, the supplied 'Superhub' is an absolute disaster (however apparently the situation is improving after multiple firmware upgrades). Also it's worth noting that you have to use the Superhub with 100Mb as it's a combined cable modem and router.

I didn't realise 100meg got it too. I thought as their flagship model it would be free of restrictions. My mistake.

Yeah I have heard about the superhub, hence my opinion that upgrading would be more of a headache than I want to deal with. I'm also extremely aware that many on 50meg still don't get what they pay for. I had to hassle them a fair piece until they upgraded my line from street cab to house. I used to only get 37meg. Now I get the full bandwidth, and I am grateful for it considering the story's I witnessed while I frequented the forum and news group.

What amazed me was the technicians knowledge. I learned a fair old bit about the structure and what was expected. When I informed the techs about it they frowned and scratched their heads. I had to link them to pages that explained, before the penny dropped. Then they were like OH old on...let me phone up and.. But yeah, it ended in me getting a thicker copper cable to my house and an attenuator on the modem because the signal went from too weak to too strong..haha
Floyd 26th July 2011, 21:15 Quote
Whoa thats fast. Why would anyone in a household need 1.5gig internet?!
Granted you only have 1gig NICs in PCs anywho.
And I thought our 7meg was quick and some of you are complaining about "poor" 20meg and 50meg packages in the UK lol.
Yea I wish it was that fast in the USA. Atleast in FL where im at.
dolphin-promotions 26th July 2011, 21:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd
Whoa thats fast. Why would anyone in a household need 1.5gig internet?!
Granted you only have 1gig NICs in PCs anywho.
And I thought our 7meg was quick and some of you are complaining about "poor" 20meg and 50meg packages in the UK lol.
Yea I wish it was that fast in the USA. Atleast in FL where im at.

Its more for bragging rights but business users, multiple people in one house, IPTV etc may all benefit from it.
faceplant 26th July 2011, 22:49 Quote
They can't sort the latency on their 50Mb & 100Mb services at the moment

Traffic management is abysmal and mistaking games for torrent traffic, staff are too stupid to sort it so they just use whitelists which are not up to date.

DOCSIS 3 protocol is crap, plus they left an important part of the firmware on the VMSH turned off which D3 needs.

Seriously, sort your current customer base first.
leexgx 26th July 2011, 22:54 Quote
if you get an vpn that will bypass the thottling (free with giganews) or vpn UK for 5.99, I agree thought you should not have to use vpn to fix Vm/cisco issues with traffic man

the 50mb modem can do 100mb (most are setup in 3x51mb link mode but rate limited to 52mb) you can enable 100mb on them even if they say it will not, just tell them to enable it
LeMaltor 27th July 2011, 00:02 Quote
They seem to struggle to provide 10 and 20 mb, never mind this bollocks.
B1GBUD 27th July 2011, 00:27 Quote
I have their 50Mb service. No complaints here (well one minor grumble, their firmware updates are only available to a closed beta group but hopefully not for much longer)
DriftCarl 27th July 2011, 00:44 Quote
right now I am perfectly happy on 24mb BE Internet. I dont currently need anything more. I can watch HD BBC iplayer streaming, download updates to my games in good time and general torrents I can wait, its not like it takes a week to download a 90 minute documentary via torrents. I would much rather them spend the money on making the infrastructure more stable and aid driving the costs of the service down.

Really, why does any normal person need any more than 50MB, let alone 1.5GB.
Gaming requires good latency, which can be had on a simple 8meg line
SolidShot 27th July 2011, 01:35 Quote
i live in winchester - if i get over 60 kps thats a good day....
Stewb 27th July 2011, 01:47 Quote
I'd kill for 3mb/s...
dramatik 27th July 2011, 02:17 Quote
20mb has been fine for me until I started goin for the 1080p flicks. 1.5gb would be a dream lol
metarinka 27th July 2011, 04:08 Quote
Don't travel to the states then, you'll be lucky to get DSL in most areas outside of cities. I'm in Pittsburgh now and I'm happy with Comcast's 50 Mb/s cable, save for the fact that it costs close to $70/month after taxes
leexgx 27th July 2011, 04:25 Quote
i only get 100MB if it only costs the same as the 50MB package i am all ready on (been with them for +12 years) sure the price i am currently paying right now is 100mb price (£45 is the 100mb price, 50mb should be £35)

with adsl state your real speed 24mb is an dream unless your right next door to the exchange with new cabling
rogerrabbits 27th July 2011, 08:37 Quote
Faster is always better. Even on 20mbit I still have to wait ages for big stuff. Like when I subscribed to RIFT and got the download, it took 2 hours or something. And when I download games on steam they take ages too. 1.5gbs would blast down. It would also be nice for people who share the internet in the house. Like a student house or a big family with lots of people doing stuff at the same time.

The problem is that like people said, they haven't even got the basics down yet. Lots of places can't even get a good reliable 4mbit connection... and even the ones who can have to suffer the lame throttling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd
Whoa thats fast. Why would anyone in a household need 1.5gig internet?!
Granted you only have 1gig NICs in PCs anywho.
And I thought our 7meg was quick and some of you are complaining about "poor" 20meg and 50meg packages in the UK lol.
Yea I wish it was that fast in the USA. Atleast in FL where im at.

I think the US is generally better than here. Even your 7mbit is better than what most brits get, the majority here are on very over subscribed and badly run ADSL. If you live somewhere like the tri state area in the US, they have amazing connections. I remember in the last game beta I was in, there were other people who had 100 mbit connections but that was download AND upload, 100 up and 100 down *drool*. We've got nothing like that here unless you buy a leased line or whatever which costs a fortune that only some business could justify.
runadumb 27th July 2011, 08:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canon
So when are they going to bother laying something decent in Belfast?, UKs 15th largest city and all we get is shitty leftovers.

I have a different problem in that my apartment is ONLY wired for Virgin. We have to use them as we can't get a signal on either digital or analogue TV. Not that I mind much as the internet is speedy. We have the 50Meg which is great but as people have said streaming can sometimes be worthless, especially youtube.

A few months ago I hammered the connection, it's very rare I do this but it was around 500Gig in a few weeks and they never complained. Made sure to do it off-peak overnight though.
Andy Mc 27th July 2011, 09:34 Quote
Supprised that VirginMedia invited that f***wit along for the PR campaign. Especially considering his standpoint on net neutrallity...
dynamis_dk 27th July 2011, 09:47 Quote
Although I agree with the fact the superhub is a joke at times, I'm on the 100mb and i've not had any issues with shaping. My girlfriend watches a lot of 4OD stuff and youtube without any issues.

Quick speedtest I've just done... I'm happy with what i'm getting:

http://www.speedtest.net
Coz 27th July 2011, 12:26 Quote
I'm on the 50Mb service and don't have any problems with YouTube (although I did a few years ago). This connection is bloody quick and it's bloody quick all day long, I never notice any peak-time slowdowns. It's not cheap but you always pay extra for the best.

I'd rather book myself an appointment at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland than switch to ADSL.;)

Edit: Just noticed that this (5m 08s, 360p) clip takes 210 seconds to completely buffer but the HD 720p version of the same video takes 7 seconds to 100% buffer. Is this the VM trickery at work?

Edit2: Installed Speedbit, buffering the above 360p video now takes about 6 seconds instead of 210. Just make sure you use a disposable/fake e-mail address when installing it!
fingerbob69 27th July 2011, 13:01 Quote
Boasting about trialing an impossible speed in some tiny part of.... Ipswich? Durham?? Poole??? Noooooo, London of course ....is guaranteed to absolutely annoy, enrage and piss off in a major way the 55 million or so people in this country who will NEVER EVER experience such speeds.
plushzilla 27th July 2011, 13:02 Quote
Excited about the stuff.What is the feedback from users?
mighty_pirate 27th July 2011, 13:12 Quote
I'm on Virgin's 50mb fibreoptic. I do notice the "shaping" early evenings, but even then I get rates of about 800kbs - 1mbs, which is fine for gaming, streaming iplayer or youtube (no problems buffering them for me) or downloading music & then after midnight it shoots up to about 6-7mbs which is insanely good. After a recent reformat I redownloaded over 50gb in one night.
I used to be on the 10mb & it was a near identical ratio, on 1/5 the scale, about 200kbs throttled, 1.4mb peak.

1.5gb... even throttled rates would be insane.
mighty_pirate 27th July 2011, 13:17 Quote
Also, I think bearing in mind this isn't likely intended for home use or even for near release. They're a business & this is to demonstrate future possibilities to current & potential investors.

Nobody really needs 1.5gbs now. But 10 years ago nobody needed 100mbs either.
greypilgers 27th July 2011, 13:47 Quote
Echoing others comments here... I live in Fareham and my BT phone line broadband internet rarely gets above download speeds of 28kbps... Unsuable in other words...

There's no cable available, but if I were to move my house 400 yards to the right... I say stop spending money on ridiculous high speeds and start providing the normal speeds to more people first.
yakyb 27th July 2011, 16:28 Quote
limited to ~6Mbs where i live what gets me though is how when i first got the package 3yrs ago i was pulling down ~9Mbs

I would love to jump onto Cable but i dont think we are getting it any time soon

what gets me is the poor Upload however, would love to reliably run my home websites at home for multiple users but i dont thin the traffic will allow
Jamie 27th July 2011, 18:13 Quote
This is an utter waste of time and money. They should be spending the money on getting long distance speed improved rather than small local areas at insane speeds.
ccxo 27th July 2011, 19:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaybles
I would rather instead of putting £13billion into their fibre network they spent the money bringing ADSL 2+ to the rest of the country.

Here i have the option of BT ADSL or BT ADSL Max.

BT have a monopoly here.

Oh and my speeds are ever decreasing.

Virgin have not invested into ASDL +2 they just used the C&W network, BT have annoucned that they will extend there WBC rollout to 90% of exchanges by spring 2013.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie
This is an utter waste of time and money. They should be spending the money on getting long distance speed improved rather than small local areas at insane speeds.

Indeed, all it is is just a advertising stunt for speeds only a business would use and they have access to speeds greater then this already.
Kovoet 27th July 2011, 19:15 Quote
I admit that's true but there are some of us with 100mb and who thought that possible a couple of years back.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
NethLyn 27th July 2011, 19:28 Quote
Virgin does this BS every summer "BIG NEW SPEEDS!" then they don't turn up for another year and as commented, are probably capped, managed, or just theoretical maximums.
cpu121 27th July 2011, 19:36 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Material
I'm not certain. The press release seems to contradict itself.
The 2 was a reference to the footnotes, which spelled out what the acronym means - nothing to do with version.
rogerrabbits 27th July 2011, 20:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynamis_dk
I'm on the 100mb and i've not had any issues with shaping. My girlfriend watches a lot of 4OD stuff and youtube without any issues.


You've got a 100mbit AND a girlfriend? You are king of the internet, sir.
Paulg1971 27th July 2011, 20:32 Quote
wtf am i getting 66 kb/sec ,yes that is kilobits whilst downloading world of tanks yet do a speed check and get 19.34 mb on a 20 meg service
stuartwood89 28th July 2011, 13:53 Quote
http://www.speedtest.net

What the hell?! I used to be a Virgin customer, but due to a move into an area without cable (this is a newly built area, within the last three years), I cannot get cable. Instead I'm forced to endure BTs crappy ADSL, which offers me this crappy speed for well over £35 per month (including phone).

Virgin really needs to expand out their existing infrastructure, instead of turning everything up to 11. It's just not necessary for the average end user and they're losing out on so much custom. The area I've just moved in is part of a massive residential complex. It's not just a bunch of houses built on a bit of spare land, it's an entire postcode, and VM haven't even bothered to lay any cable. The joke is that I'm friends with one of their engineers, and he tells me that they've layed the ducting, but no cable.
ccxo 29th July 2011, 14:13 Quote
[QUOTE=stuartwood89;2758898Virgin really needs to expand out their existing infrastructure, instead of turning everything up to 11. It's just not necessary for the average end user and they're losing out on so much custom. The area I've just moved in is part of a massive residential complex. It's not just a bunch of houses built on a bit of spare land, it's an entire postcode, and VM haven't even bothered to lay any cable. The joke is that I'm friends with one of their engineers, and he tells me that they've layed the ducting, but no cable.[/QUOTE]

Virgin have not layed any cable in ages, they should forget 200/300 meg on there network as the recent figures from VM show that there 50/100 meg customers only make up 4.2% of their customer base, a roll out of cable would be a better investment but vigin seems to be happy to wait and see what happens with the open network that will proably not get off the ground.
damien c 31st July 2011, 16:59 Quote
I have a 50mb connection in my house not on a superhub because my dad work's for them and was one of the trialest's for it, so I have mine on a normal modem and I have to say it work's without a problem.

My dad has a 50mb connection for himself and my mum and that is on a superhub and that is fine as well.

I did have a issue with Youtube a few week's ago and IMDB but found out it was down to VLC media player, as when I did a reinstall of windows and tried Youtube etc it was perfect streaming 1080p at anytime of the day, but then I installed VLC and bang Youtube etc would not stream anymore without stuttering etc.

I am getting the 100mb as soon as it is available for me and I know that the 1.5gb is not aimed at download's solely it's aimed at more than that, but I aint saying what as it's not my place to say.

I know people have issues with there speed's etc and I feel sorry for them as I hated it when I was on a slow connection at the last lan I went to, as the holder only had a 5mb ADSL connection luckily we were only playing Cod 4 and Cod 5.

But I do also know of more thing's and I have to say it will get very interesting soon for Broadband in the UK ;) and no other company will come close to it either I am 99% sure of that.

But for me there is not a single company I would use for Broadband as no one can give a good enough connection, not even BT Infinity.

Anyone on Infinity had issues where there broadband drop's off when the phone ring's :)

My brother in law was on Sky broadband up to 20mb and was less than 400 metres away from the exchange that he was connected, to and he was only able to get a maximum speed of 0.5mb download and 10kb upload he then switched to BT and got 2mb down and 50kb up, then he moved in to a house that was cable ready and went straight on to the 50mb connection and hasn't looked back.

I seriously have no issues with my connection and neither does anyone I know but I do see people saying it's bad.

As for the traffic shaping there was issues I know a while back with Xbox Live etc but that was Microsoft's problem, and I know Youtube had issues because they were converting and still are I think from Flash to HTML 5 I think it is.

Anyway I want 1.5gb and then I can pwn all the American server's on Blop's and other games ;)
leexgx 18th August 2011, 05:48 Quote
It's Docsis 3 not 2 fix it please (50mb service or higher uses 3)

Get an vpn service that fix most issues (i have to use it for newsgroups or I only get 2-3mb instead of my 51mb speeds)
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