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Virgin to trial world's fastest cable broadband

Virgin to trial world's fastest cable broadband

Virgin Media's 1.5Gb/sec broadband connection is currently being trialled in east London.

Virgin Media is to begin trialling what it claims will be the world's fastest cable broadband system. Trials begin this month with four companies situated around Old Street in east London.

Virgin is aiming for download speeds of up to 1.5Gbit/sec, although the upload speed is limited to just 150Mb/sec. Jon James, executive director of broadband at Virgin Media, explained the purpose of the project, saying: 'Demand for greater bandwidth is growing rapidly as more devices are able to connect to the Internet and as more people go online simultaneously.'

Another spokesperson for the company also added that 'these superfast speeds are possible because of the £13 billion of private investment made by Virgin Media, which means that every cable home is connected to a state-of-the-art fibre optic network by a high-grade coaxial line.

'By contrast, BT’s infrastructure remains reliant on copper telephone wiring, or in some cases even more inferior aluminium, which was never intended to supply broadband. This will not change for the overwhelming majority of homes eventually offered fibre-to-the-cabinet (FTTC) services from other providers.'


The trial comes soon after Virgin was proved by Ofcom to offer the fastest average speed of any home broadband company in the UK. Its 50Mb/sec service has seen an uptake of more than 30 per cent in the first quarter of this year, with the total number of users on the tariff now standing at 150,000 with revenue up 5.7 per cent too.

What are your broadband speeds like? Do you like the sound of a 1.5Gb/sec connection? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Pookie 21st April 2011, 10:11 Quote
All that bandwidth ready to be capped and throttled
proxess 21st April 2011, 10:14 Quote
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.
TheLegendJoe 21st April 2011, 10:15 Quote
I've got their 50Mb connection, and It runs @ 48Mb/s on decent servers, although steam often maxes out at only 2.6MB! Not fun :/ (should be downloading at 6MB/s)

But 1.5Gbps? Awesome! Who'll need traditional digital television? No one (in a few years) :P Everything will run off broadband ;)
matt... 21st April 2011, 10:23 Quote
Am very jealous - I'm on a terrible connection that at times is slower than an old dial-up system (have recorded 0.02Mbps!!!) - not fun considering I'm supposed to get up to 10Mbps but as its an overloading issue and the problem doesn't exist during the day when everyone is at work then apparently the powers that be will do nothing about it :-(
leveller 21st April 2011, 10:24 Quote
Sounds like the boost OnLive! (although I think they've partnered with BT) and other streaming suppliers were looking for.
chris66 21st April 2011, 10:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
I've got their 50Mb connection, and It runs @ 48Mb/s on decent servers, although steam often maxes out at only 2.6MB! Not fun :/ (should be downloading at 6MB/s)

But 1.5Gbps? Awesome! Who'll need traditional digital television? No one (in a few years) :P Everything will run off broadband ;)

I too have the 50MB package. It is fantastic. I have seen download speeds with Steam at 5Mb/s.
I paid triple what I pay for Virgin when in Italy, and a game would take 2 full days to download, but now it's under an hour - sometimes a lot less!
It's great for the online movies for Lovefilm.com, too.
LeMaltor 21st April 2011, 10:34 Quote
When can I have this in my house?
xaser04 21st April 2011, 10:50 Quote
Sounds tasty.

I really want Virgin 50Mb (or even 20Mb) cable but I can't get it in my area.
j_jay4 21st April 2011, 10:50 Quote
What is the point of 1.5 Gbps if you can't download more than 1 Gb during peak hours without getting throttled to less than dial up speeds. Virgin suck!
WarrenJ 21st April 2011, 10:52 Quote
10years?
The Monk 21st April 2011, 10:53 Quote
Great! A few people will get ridiculously fast broadband.
The rest of us will be stuck on ridiculously slow broadband.
Lenderz 21st April 2011, 11:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
I've got their 50Mb connection, and It runs @ 48Mb/s on decent servers, although steam often maxes out at only 2.6MB! Not fun :/ (should be downloading at 6MB/s)

But 1.5Gbps? Awesome! Who'll need traditional digital television? No one (in a few years) :P Everything will run off broadband ;)

Change your steam download server to somewhere in Europe. I did that on my 50meg virgin connection and I sometimes max it out, I tend to bounce between Germany or Poland depending on whichever has the lowest load. The UK servers are some of the most busy.

I think the real value in this service is if you've got 2+ Power users" using the service, two people downloading from steam whilst watching uninterrupted iplayer HD for example.


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TheLegendJoe 21st April 2011, 11:07 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by j_jay4
What is the point of 1.5 Gbps if you can't download more than 1 Gb during peak hours without getting throttled to less than dial up speeds. Virgin suck!

they dont cap 50Mb + ;) I downloaded 200GB the first day of having it :P
Unknownsock 21st April 2011, 11:09 Quote
I've learnt to live with my 4.5 Mb/sec ... :|
TheLegendJoe 21st April 2011, 11:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenderz

Change your steam download server to somewhere in Europe. I did that on my 50meg virgin connection and I sometimes max it out, I tend to bounce between Germany or Poland depending on whichever has the lowest load. The UK servers are some of the most busy.


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Cheers! I'll give it a go when I get in
chris66 21st April 2011, 11:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
Cheers! I'll give it a go when I get in

I'll have to try that, too. I thought 5Mb/s download was good!
maverik-sg1 21st April 2011, 12:00 Quote
It's the upload speeds of current broadband that gets to me - I have a 20mb service with a 768mbps upload - I'd happily sacrifice 5mb of DL speed for 2mb of upload speeds (having said that I;d probably upgrade to a faster service then) there needs to be a better upload.download ratio than is currently available.
GeorgeStorm 21st April 2011, 12:03 Quote
Well, we currently download at a couple of hundred Kb/s, and upload is even worse, so consider all your in the Mb/s region lucky ;)
Deders 21st April 2011, 12:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.

Unless you have more than 1 computer sharing the internet connection
wuyanxu 21st April 2011, 12:06 Quote
speed isn't everything.

get that backbone improved, and remove time period based traffic shaping. i want minimal lag in games, not speed.

if they say they are working on world's lowest ping connections, then that'd be much better. market 20Mbps uncapped fibre to gamers.
Tangster 21st April 2011, 12:21 Quote
I want decent internet access in rural areas damnit. I don't give two hoots about 1.5Gb/s because I'll never get it. It's horrific when I have to change from the internet access I get away at uni and back to the crap I get at home.
Floyd 21st April 2011, 12:38 Quote
Haha 1.5meg was the fastest I could have at my old house... Now were at a blazing 7meg.
Consider yourself lucky.
Seems America is behind the curve with internet speeds.
John_T 21st April 2011, 12:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Monk
Great! A few people will get ridiculously fast broadband.
The rest of us will be stuck on ridiculously slow broadband.

That.

The fastest service available to me is 'up to' 8Mb, and I consider myself lucky if it reaches 0.5Mb Mon-Fri evenings and weekends - often far, far slower. Like Matt, sometimes it drops so low it becomes effectively unusable, unable to even open a webpage or complete a speedtest. (And I don't live in a little village in a pimple on the arse-end of no-where either).

A shame, I used to live right round the corner to Old Street...
mrbens 21st April 2011, 12:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
they dont cap 50Mb + ;) I downloaded 200GB the first day of having it :P

That's true, although after getting a new 2TB USB3 hard drive I got a letter off them asking kindly if I'd move all my 'heavy' downloading to 9pm-9am!
Fizzban 21st April 2011, 13:01 Quote
Only companys, schools and hospitals need that sort of bandwidth. I'm all for them getting out faster speeds though. I've got their 50Mb and it's brilliant, but I didn't upgrade to their 100Mb package when it became available as it is just unnecessary. For me anyway.
TheLegendJoe 21st April 2011, 13:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbens
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
they dont cap 50Mb + ;) I downloaded 200GB the first day of having it :P

That's true, although after getting a new 2TB USB3 hard drive I got a letter off them asking kindly if I'd move all my 'heavy' downloading to 9pm-9am!

What the hell! hahaha, you must have been using some serious bandwidth :P The cheek though! I wonder who had to write it XD
christoefar 21st April 2011, 13:33 Quote
They do cap download's on Virgin, I have a friend in student accommodation, he has been cut off before. The 50 Mb line is shared between 18 people in this case, so I can only imagine the usage is very high.
legoyoda 21st April 2011, 13:44 Quote
Ignoring many computers sharing 1 connection at the same time. How many people aren't going to realize that their internet speed is FASTER THAN THEIR NETWORK CARD can possibly receive at? I'm guessing that the answer amongst non techies is MANY.
braincake 21st April 2011, 13:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt...
Am very jealous - I'm on a terrible connection that at times is slower than an old dial-up system (have recorded 0.02Mbps!!!) - not fun considering I'm supposed to get up to 10Mbps but as its an overloading issue and the problem doesn't exist during the day when everyone is at work then apparently the powers that be will do nothing about it :-(

I had this problem with Sky. They told me there was nothing they could do, but I switched to BT anyway and suddenly 2mbps at all times.
Deders 21st April 2011, 13:46 Quote
I guess it's initially going to be aimed at businesses
ledbythereaper 21st April 2011, 14:02 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
I've got their 50Mb connection, and It runs @ 48Mb/s on decent servers, although steam often maxes out at only 2.6MB! Not fun :/ (should be downloading at 6MB/s)

But 1.5Gbps? Awesome! Who'll need traditional digital television? No one (in a few years) :P Everything will run off broadband ;)

I've had 5MB/s off Steam once I think. The only way I can max out my connection is with NNTP.
jizwizard 21st April 2011, 14:07 Quote
they do cap the 50meg service if you use newsgroups. they throttle the bloody ports
Sentinel-R1 21st April 2011, 14:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.

Well, it is aimed at businesses, and I think the businesses that would opt for this service when it's available would be capable of ingesting large amounts of data, regardless of whether they need to store it or not. It's about bandwidth, not how much you can download and store.

And to the VM haters, I don't think they'd be capping a business service given the premium they'll have to pay for 'the fastest in the world'.
Jaybles 21st April 2011, 14:25 Quote
still waiting on 10 Meg :(
digitaldave 21st April 2011, 14:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt...
Am very jealous - I'm on a terrible connection that at times is slower than an old dial-up system (have recorded 0.02Mbps!!!) - not fun considering I'm supposed to get up to 10Mbps but as its an overloading issue and the problem doesn't exist during the day when everyone is at work then apparently the powers that be will do nothing about it :-(

this is just data capping from the ISP

and no, they will not change that the only way to stop it is by changing ISP to one that doesnt cap data at peak times (IE after work)
Skiddywinks 21st April 2011, 14:45 Quote
I had the 50Mb/s service off them and it was **** anytime I actually had the oppurtunity to use it. We tried everything we could think of for the whole year we had it, and nthing improved it. And this is ignoring how terrible their customer service was when we tried to leave.

I have to agree with the comments here; they can big themselves up all they want, but until they improve broadband in rural areas, they are no better than the rest of them. I also agree with the latency comments. Their 50Mb/s service had horrible ping and jitter almost all of the time.

I would honestly sign up straight away if they had an Ofcom proven lowest consistent latency, 20Mb+ service. I would jump on it, regardless of how much I hate them.
SchizoFrog 21st April 2011, 15:18 Quote
They should be investing in increasing their coverage, not the speed. It is not just rural areas that are lacking fibre connections. More often than not it is the inner parts of cities that are most affected through lack of supply. I live in the East End of London about a mile from Liverpool St and there is no fibre services unless you go with BT's new 'Infinity' (Which I do not).
pimlicosound 21st April 2011, 16:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I had the 50Mb/s service off them and it was **** anytime I actually had the oppurtunity to use it. We tried everything we could think of for the whole year we had it, and nthing improved it. And this is ignoring how terrible their customer service was when we tried to leave.

I have to agree with the comments here; they can big themselves up all they want, but until they improve broadband in rural areas, they are no better than the rest of them. I also agree with the latency comments. Their 50Mb/s service had horrible ping and jitter almost all of the time.

I would honestly sign up straight away if they had an Ofcom proven lowest consistent latency, 20Mb+ service. I would jump on it, regardless of how much I hate them.

I'm surprised you had such a poor experience with the 50meg package. I hear generally positive things about that package, and my own experience has been perfect: 47Mb/s average speed and 16ms ping, with no downtime or throttling.
DwarfKiller 21st April 2011, 16:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
*Cut because, well*.

To be fair, it was terrible when we had it then. I was spending more time trying to see i i could fix the problem on my end than actually getting any use out of it.
This time round, we get the same problems occasionallly. But I honestly haven't noticed it in about 2/3 months now. They've greatly improved it, I'll give them that.
Toploaded 21st April 2011, 16:36 Quote
If I got a virgin 10mb I would be over the moon. I live in a county town in a fairly good area and can only get 4mbs on a good day. I try not to complain because the very fact I can access the internet at all is fantastic, but each time an article like this comes out I feel so left behind :)
zpikez 21st April 2011, 16:43 Quote
i have virgin's 50mb/s package in my student house, there are six of us in the house and a lot of people in the area with virgin routers. despite all this since taking up the package in september i have not once experienced any noticeable lag in any online games which cant be traced back to a problem with the game's own server. the one problem i have had is that every few days we are knocked off for a few hours at a time, after calling them i found out this was only due to them not expecting so many people in the area to take up their packages and it should be fixed shortly.

I have consistently been impressed with their current speeds (whenever i've checked it out its been from 20-45mb/s), more speed from their service is very welcome. THE FASTER THE BETTER!
G0UDG 21st April 2011, 17:17 Quote
Virgin media are positively the worst isp in the uk many of my friends and indeed myself at one time are and were connected online with them and are/were having had many connection problems,the excuse from virgin is distance from the phone exchange this is bs as one of them has his house connected by only a walls distance to the exchange,he is paying for 50 meg and only getting at most 2-5 meg and downloads very little hes that close to the exchange if he places his hand through the wall hes touching it. virgin media are useless in my opinion, we have bskyb max package and can honestly say they are the only ISP I have come across that truly understand the meaning of the word unlimited

In our time with sky broadband we have never gone below 18 meg even at busy times and most times always get what we pay for,I personally would rather have the slower 20 meg connection of bskyb than go with virgin media again
Fizzban 21st April 2011, 17:26 Quote
Basically Virgin Media is very hit and miss. For some it is brilliant, and for others it is awful. But if it wasn't for them I doubt BT would be offering cable and trying to compete. They would still be sitting back doing nothing.
Fizzban 21st April 2011, 17:28 Quote
urgh double-post fail
Deders 21st April 2011, 17:30 Quote
We have to constantly reset the router and the modem, i'd say if it's not one then it's the other, but sometimes it's not either of them.
Stewb 21st April 2011, 17:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tangster
I want decent internet access in rural areas damnit. I don't give two hoots about 1.5Gb/s because I'll never get it. It's horrific when I have to change from the internet access I get away at uni and back to the crap I get at home.

Same position as you:

Home: unlimited, but it's 2Mb.... Ugh

Uni: Something amazing like 10 MB (yes that's bytes), but capped at 10GB a week....
FuzzyOne 21st April 2011, 18:10 Quote
I have the 50mb service since it launched.

It's been spotless, I can hammer pretty much any service and max it out, hosting companies are wising up and starting to cap there outgoing bandwidth (we do it at least)

Virgin do cap the 50mb service something like 9am-12pm is capped for NNTP and p2p services, there is no disconnect and other traffic still flows at full whack.
schmidtbag 21st April 2011, 18:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.

i thought the exact same thing. on top of that, most websites around the world wouldn't offer that much speed.
digitaldunc 21st April 2011, 19:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by legoyoda
Ignoring many computers sharing 1 connection at the same time. How many people aren't going to realize that their internet speed is FASTER THAN THEIR NETWORK CARD can possibly receive at? I'm guessing that the answer amongst non techies is MANY.

That's what I was wondering... are there any details as to how the potential 1.5Gbps would be attained? Enterprise ethernet gear provided for home users? I doubt it, though happy to be proven wrong.
RichCreedy 21st April 2011, 19:42 Quote
you could buy yourselfs some expensive 10Gb cards
Woodspoon 21st April 2011, 19:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by G0UDG
Virgin media are positively the worst isp in the uk many of my friends and indeed myself at one time are and were connected online with them and are/were having had many connection problems,the excuse from virgin is distance from the phone exchange this is bs as one of them has his house connected by only a walls distance to the exchange,he is paying for 50 meg and only getting at most 2-5 meg and downloads very little hes that close to the exchange if he places his hand through the wall hes touching it. virgin media are useless in my opinion, we have bskyb max package and can honestly say they are the only ISP I have come across that truly understand the meaning of the word unlimited

In our time with sky broadband we have never gone below 18 meg even at busy times and most times always get what we pay for,I personally would rather have the slower 20 meg connection of bskyb than go with virgin media again

Your friend either isn't on 50mb or isn't getting the speeds he's been telling you, 50mb is fiber optic so where the exchange is makes no difference
RichCreedy 21st April 2011, 19:58 Quote
unless he is not on virgin fibre, but on virgins rent from bt service. he wont be getting 50Mb on that thought
leexgx 21st April 2011, 20:01 Quote
the not so super hub has got issues still (i am quite lucky the Vm man still had an 50mb modem in the van)

it is true about news (i guess ip based) and un-encrypted torrents connections can be heavy limited depending what the whole network has been doing (vpn only fix for it or goto business bb) just wish they had not done that at least that gives me an good reason to stop tv services completely
John_T 21st April 2011, 20:54 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitaldunc
Quote:
Originally Posted by legoyoda
Ignoring many computers sharing 1 connection at the same time. How many people aren't going to realize that their internet speed is FASTER THAN THEIR NETWORK CARD can possibly receive at? I'm guessing that the answer amongst non techies is MANY.

That's what I was wondering... are there any details as to how the potential 1.5Gbps would be attained? Enterprise ethernet gear provided for home users? I doubt it, though happy to be proven wrong.

It says in the story: This is being trialled for four companies, it's not for home users, therefore it'll be enterprise grade kit they'll be using anyway.

Also, veering off opic (only slightly), but I see South Africa have just doubled their internet capacity with a new cable to London - the West Africa Cable System (WACS). How does 500 gigabits per second sound to anyone? You could download a DVD in 0.002 seconds! :)
Kroy 21st April 2011, 21:03 Quote
"By contrast, BT’s infrastructure remains reliant on copper telephone wiring, or in some cases even more inferior aluminium, which was never intended to supply broadband. "

By contrast, Virgin can afford to push all its cash in to headline grabbing stunts because it has no mandate for the betterment of the UK as a whole, relying instead on cherry-picked regions of the UK to fluff the Board of Directors and its other various shareholders.

You can call BT for all you want, but at the very least, and regardless of privatisation, they have been serving some of the most rural parts of the UK for a long time. If Virgin really want to play with the big boys they better gtf up my street, and the thousands of others they refuse to invest in.

Meanwhile I'll take my crappy 200kb/s from BT and say thank you for maintaining a clean, reliable service. And I will continue to use my excellent O2 3G service to supplement my bandwidth. STFU Virgin.
BRAWL 21st April 2011, 21:28 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegendJoe
I've got their 50Mb connection, and It runs @ 48Mb/s on decent servers, although steam often maxes out at only 2.6MB! Not fun :/ (should be downloading at 6MB/s)

But 1.5Gbps? Awesome! Who'll need traditional digital television? No one (in a few years) :P Everything will run off broadband ;)

At which point the TV licence will become the PC licence... go figure.

I think I need new shorts at those speeds though.
haakon.t 22nd April 2011, 00:19 Quote
1.5Gbps really is something! But there are a couple of things I don't like here.

1. The upload speed. Sure, it's not AS important as download speed for most people, but a tenth of the speed? Seriously?
2. Coaxial, not fibre. This is a potential speedbump for some people, although I guess (hope) they have this problem mostly settled by now. Haven't paid that much attention to all the technical stuff lately, so I wouldn't know.
3. Download cap, wtf. Haven't had that since dial-up 15 years ago.

Norway is cold all year round, it's the most expensive country in the world, and the people here are generally unfriendly, but if there is something I really like about living here, it's the internet. We never have less than our promised 40/40mbit (sometimes more, see below), fibre optics all the way into our walls, no download caps whatsoever, and we live over 60km from the nearest city.

Yeah, and the company we get our internet from, just did this.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1263197415.png
unikey 22nd April 2011, 01:16 Quote
I'm old enough to remember 300baud dialup and BT's refusal to roll out new technology or even make adsl available to villages so avoid them like the plague
Vm are ok most of the time especially as they keep forgetting to bill me so I get a 50% rebate
ZERO <ibis> 22nd April 2011, 01:36 Quote
Still though I love how a lot of these companies are offering high speeds but then download caps. Look for example at the new 105mb from Comcast in the states. It is a few hundred per month and capped at 120gb. Totally worthless, I would get it to transfer files for work but the cap makes it worthless. Instead your best off having multiple lines so you can get around the caps.
Deders 22nd April 2011, 03:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodspoon
Your friend either isn't on 50mb or isn't getting the speeds he's been telling you, 50mb is fiber optic so where the exchange is makes no difference

I get better speedtest results when I go through the London exchange than I do with the local one
G0UDG 22nd April 2011, 16:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodspoon
Quote:
Originally Posted by G0UDG
Virgin media are positively the worst isp in the uk many of my friends and indeed myself at one time are and were connected online with them and are/were having had many connection problems,the excuse from virgin is distance from the phone exchange this is bs as one of them has his house connected by only a walls distance to the exchange,he is paying for 50 meg and only getting at most 2-5 meg and downloads very little hes that close to the exchange if he places his hand through the wall hes touching it. virgin media are useless in my opinion, we have bskyb max package and can honestly say they are the only ISP I have come across that truly understand the meaning of the word unlimited

In our time with sky broadband we have never gone below 18 meg even at busy times and most times always get what we pay for,I personally would rather have the slower 20 meg connection of bskyb than go with virgin media again

Your friend either isn't on 50mb or isn't getting the speeds he's been telling you, 50mb is fiber optic so where the exchange is makes no difference
cable connections are only fibre optic up to the main box in the street from there to your home its copper coaxial cable,being a radio ham for several years I know the difference between optical and copper coaxial cable and the limitations of copper cable especially on short lengths.My friend is on the 50 meg virgin package I have been in his house on many occassions when hes been on the phone to virgin complaing about his problem amd have also seen his contract with them for the 50 meg package,Im guessing you work for virgin thats why your defending them maybe. you only have to check out forums to see how many people have problems with that isp and not just with thier net access packages
enciem 22nd April 2011, 22:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.

It's 187.5 megabytes per second, and the dude who said sharing internet connections was on the money.

I'd love to have this sort of speed. I bet virgin will still throttle the hell out of the upload speed mind.
Dissident 23rd April 2011, 02:10 Quote
I am on 25mb/s and i can not imagine anything any faster, let alone 1.5gb/s.
Guinevere 23rd April 2011, 13:38 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
That's 192MB/s... meaning if you have a normal HDD, it's useless.

No, it means your download will be cached in RAM before it's written to the drive.
Guinevere 23rd April 2011, 13:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitaldunc
That's what I was wondering... are there any details as to how the potential 1.5Gbps would be attained? Enterprise ethernet gear provided for home users? I doubt it, though happy to be proven wrong.

My money is one them selling it with dedicated hardware EG a USB3 / Thunderbolt / PCI-E based dongle. Hopefully wireless based.

No point saying "But they don't exist"... neither does the 1.5Gbps package they're wanting to sell.

Either than or the router will simply have several 1Gbps sockets for sharing and/or bonding your 1.5Gbps.
ccxo 23rd April 2011, 14:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kroy
"By contrast, BT’s infrastructure remains reliant on copper telephone wiring, or in some cases even more inferior aluminium, which was never intended to supply broadband. "

By contrast, Virgin can afford to push all its cash in to headline grabbing stunts because it has no mandate for the betterment of the UK as a whole, relying instead on cherry-picked regions of the UK to fluff the Board of Directors and its other various shareholders.

You can call BT for all you want, but at the very least, and regardless of privatisation, they have been serving some of the most rural parts of the UK for a long time. If Virgin really want to play with the big boys they better gtf up my street, and the thousands of others they refuse to invest in.

Meanwhile I'll take my crappy 200kb/s from BT and say thank you for maintaining a clean, reliable service. And I will continue to use my excellent O2 3G service to supplement my bandwidth. STFU Virgin.


Its time OFCOM kicked the door down at Vigin and got them to start improving the UK's broadband as a whole, they moan about BT OR duct and pole prices. Beyond 50 meg there will only be limited take up by residents, a expansion of there network would do more for the people wanting better broadband and give virgin more customers in the long term.
lp rob1 23rd April 2011, 19:33 Quote
Only problem with cable is that it is shared with your neighbours, meaning if they are downloading 'stuff', your speeds will suffer. But there is plenty of speeeeeeds with this connection!

HD tech needs to develop first though - it gets faster but not by a considerable amount. Imagine an HD that has built in RAID 0 eg. data striped across the platters. Or multiple read write heads. I am developing the future, right here in the comments! :D
slothy89 24th April 2011, 10:11 Quote
Sigh.. So many people not knowing the difference between MB/s (bytes) and Mb/s (bits). Plenty of people get it but theres a few.. The little b isn't just ppl not using capslock.

Also of course they aren't planning on one PC using the entire 1.5Gbps. As has been said this is a CORPORATE TRIAL. so there will be quite a few people using it simultaneously. By the time this hits residential, motherboards will have builtin 10Gbps Ethernet.

Or, I know plenty of consumer motherboards that offer dual LAN binding which would get you a 2gbps Cap.

Anyway, where I live in Australia I'd be more than happy for virgin to give me 50mbps cable. I'm meant to get 20, but am lucky to get 7... With 0.7 up.. I can't even host a minecraft server for more than 4 ppl.
Xro33 24th April 2011, 18:08 Quote
Kansas city, Kansas is getting google's fiber optic and now Virgin. Hopefully more isp's will switch and hopefully these data caps will be gone. We just have to wait and see what kind of improvements this brings.
PedoBear 25th April 2011, 17:06 Quote
The problem with VM is they over subscribe there lines.
I know from first hand experience and a phone call from a VM technical Manager.
I was on there 20 meg package had 4 different engineers out, new modems hours in phone calls. Then I got a phone call from them telling me that the lines were over subscribed and it would be 6 months until they could safely say it would be fixed.
I got 100 pounds compo and 12 months free Broadband and they stuck me on the lower package.
I decided to cancel this year after being with them since it was ntl and told them that they have gone to the dogs in the past few years. with bethere now getting 15 meg connection no capping at anytime of day wooot.
sWW 26th April 2011, 00:01 Quote
Well at least people in cities can have more fun. Us country folk will still be stuck on weak copper lines 4km from the exchange :<
theevilelephant 26th April 2011, 09:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by sWW
Well at least people in cities can have more fun. Us country folk will still be stuck on weak copper lines 4km from the exchange :<

Yup, I know it's probably not a financially good idea for VM but it would be lovely if they extended their cable coverage to more remote areas. :( If I wasn't in uni halls at the moment I would be back on a "8Mb" connection that was so terrible I was regularly getting 4.5Kb/s.
UrbanSmooth 27th April 2011, 16:54 Quote
Will someone please tell YouTube/Google about this? Sometimes YouTube suffers from the worst streaming speeds that one can fathom.
rakesh27 27th April 2011, 17:48 Quote
Guys,

When you say 7mb, 8mb etc per second, can you please mention it like this eg 1000kbps as this mean yours get 1mega byte per second.

So am i to understand all you lot out there are actually getting 7, 8, 15 mb per second on normal broadband i could believe this if its optical.

I only question it as im only 1km from our exchange max i get is 1mb per second, not that great, i suppose it will do.

Plesae explain if ive gone wrong, thanks
Br1t1shB33f 28th April 2011, 11:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Unknownsock
I've learnt to live with my 4.5 Mb/sec ... :|

Actually my friend, unfortunately 50Meg is capped during peak times.

I cap out at 6.04mb/sec down speed during the non peak times but am throttled down to 3mb/2mb/1mb and 750k depending on how busy the day.
:'( and i pay £38 p/m for a throttled service.
Deders 28th April 2011, 21:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Br1t1shB33f
Actually my friend, unfortunately 50Meg is capped during peak times.

I cap out at 6.04mb/sec down speed during the non peak times but am throttled down to 3mb/2mb/1mb and 750k depending on how busy the day.
:'( and i pay £38 p/m for a throttled service.

With Virgin? We don't get throttled afaik, just random downtime at the moment.
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