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Apple iPhone 5 rumoured for September launch

Apple iPhone 5 rumoured for September launch

The iPhone 5 is rumoured to feature an A5 processor, as well as an 8MP camera.

Apple looks set to drop its iPhone 5 into consumers' laps in September, according to information obtained from Apple's component suppliers in Asia.

According to The Guardian, these suppliers say they're gearing up to enter mass production of the new iPhone in less than three months, while also preparing for another iPhone launch in 2012.

The iPhone 5 reportedly has a very similar in design to the current iPhone 4 - a rumour that's been floating around for a while. However, Bloomberg reports that the new phone is likely to sport a new 8MP camera, as well as an A5 processor like the CPU in the iPad 2, which was released earlier this year.

According to Bloomberg, the new iPhone will also include iOS 5, which promises a host of new features, including photo and Twitter messaging across some applications, computer-less updates and the ability to use Apple's iCloud service to sync data between devices.

Are you eagerly awaiting the new iPhone 5, or do you prefer a different smartphone platform? Perhaps you're happy with an iPhone 3G or 3GS and a cheap contract? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Woodspoon 23rd June 2011, 15:39 Quote
"likely to sport a new 8MB camera"
8MB? interesting, some sort of new technology maybe? lol
Apocalypso 23rd June 2011, 15:40 Quote
Come October when my contract is up for renewal it'll be goodbye ios and hello android.
Gigglebyte 23rd June 2011, 15:55 Quote
Can't the Apple bubble just burst already? I'm tired of seeing people being drawn in by, unfortunately, good marketing and bad products.
fingerbob69 23rd June 2011, 16:00 Quote
Shiney, shiney ....ummm fruity smelling. ...precious , my precious.
SexyHyde 23rd June 2011, 16:01 Quote
Hmmmm. I'm really not bothered. My Android is amazing and the fact that three people I know have got iPhones this year and said they hate them. Something which I've never heard from anyone about Android. I much prefer Androids openness. I like the fact that my friends with iphones say my phone is a brick because my screen is larger than theirs. Always makes me lol. Oh and the icloud doesn't appeal to me at all, not with my poor network signal in my area if I lose WiFi I have patchy network coverage and if my stuffs on the cloud and I lose contact I don't have my stuff. Give me phone storage or a microsd slot over cloud any day.
Phil Rhodes 23rd June 2011, 16:03 Quote
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The iPhone 5 reportedly has a very similar in design to the current iPhone 4

Whereas, of course, versions 3, 2 and 1 were massively dissimilar.
tonyd223 23rd June 2011, 16:04 Quote
Samsung Galaxy II v HTC Sensation I think... I'll buy an apple product when money means nothing and I have no taste or desire to tinker...
Tyrmot 23rd June 2011, 16:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoca1yps0
Come October when my contract is up for renewal it'll be goodbye ios and hello android.

Yes... just ditched iPhone at last and moved to a galaxy S2, seems like the platform is mature enough to leave iOS to the fans.
Tokukachi 23rd June 2011, 16:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrmot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoca1yps0
Come October when my contract is up for renewal it'll be goodbye ios and hello android.

Yes... just ditched iPhone at last and moved to a galaxy S2, seems like the platform is mature enough to leave iOS to the fans.

+1
Just did the exact same thing and no regrets.. :)
wuyanxu 23rd June 2011, 16:21 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigglebyte
Can't the Apple bubble just burst already? I'm tired of seeing people being drawn in by, unfortunately, good marketing and bad products.

nothing wrong with iOS or their products. they are high quality and people buy them all have a good reason.

before you bash on their products, consider this: still nothing beats iPad's battery life. still nothing beats iPhone 4's display. and for people who don't like to tinker, iOS is still the perfect OS. so far, only Galaxy Tab 10.1 have beat ipad 2 on weight, yet build quality is no where near as good.


with iOS 5, i've even started to reconsider my jailbreak habits. the biggest grip i have with iOS have been addressed (by copying Android, i admit).

can't wait to see the new iPhone, i am still unsure whether to upgrade or not, iPhone 4 is still miles better than the Galaxy S i used everyday last month when i was in America. Android to me, feels like Linux (i know it is running on the same kernel) or Windows 95, clunky and everything needs configuring to actually work.

no, im not a fanboy. i was going to buy Galaxy tab 10.1, but decided to get an ipad 2 for 2 reasons: cheaper (second hand deal on BT) and iOS 5 restored my confidence in future of the platform. yes, i did think stock iOS 4 was going down the drain, notification system (or lack of) were driving me crazy.
will_123 23rd June 2011, 16:23 Quote
I jumped from a 3GS to a desire HD despite being stuck on a sh*t contract im happy with my phone. But i disagree when people say the iPhone is bad product its really good, just I like the open source android. i just hope it doesn't get to fragmented for its own good. But there is no knocking iOS its really good.

I do enjoy the idea of Google setting some kind of advised spec for android so that all phones are getting updated for at least 18months. Android is moving that fast the phones are no longer phones they seem to be computers. Dual cores it going to scare me when there is a quad core CPU in a phone lol. But i suppose cant halt progress!
Fishlock 23rd June 2011, 16:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Whereas, of course, versions 3, 2 and 1 were massively dissimilar.

You've obviously never looked closely at them all...

[/Sarcasm]

It feels a bit like the upgrade from 3G to 3GS, keeping it looking and feeling the same with just a few little internal updates. Can't say that I will be that bothered about upgrading, especially not since it would cost me a fortune with the amount of contract I've got left...
Combatus 23rd June 2011, 16:28 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Whereas, of course, versions 3, 2 and 1 were massively dissimilar.

Relatively speaking, yes - pre-4 they were practically identical so the 4 was the biggest design change since the original iPhone.
leveller 23rd June 2011, 16:29 Quote
I have no idea how much contract I've got left, enough not to get this on release though. :(
raxonb 23rd June 2011, 16:31 Quote
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!
B1GBUD 23rd June 2011, 16:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by raxonb
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!

They've started queuing
Nikumba 23rd June 2011, 16:47 Quote
Might look at the iphone5 as I am on Android now, but without a way to import my text messages, I won't be moving back to the iOS platform.

Anyone know of a SMS cloud place?

Kimbie
wuyanxu 23rd June 2011, 16:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by raxonb
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!
im surprised that android supporters are accessing forum actually, i thought their battery would have ran out by noon. :p


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikumba
Might look at the iphone5 as I am on Android now, but without a way to import my text messages, I won't be moving back to the iOS platform.

Anyone know of a SMS cloud place?

Kimbie
jailbreak your iphone and then extract SMS out easily.
Blademrk 23rd June 2011, 16:49 Quote
My father picked up a Galaxy S2 about a fortnight back, I've had to play with it to set it up for him and tbh I'm not convinced that it's any better than my 3Gs.

My contract is up today actually, I'm just not sure what I want to do yet - I'm not happy with the 4G, I prefer my 3GS and I think I'd rather wait for 5 and see if the thing's I don't like with 4 have been sorted.
SexyHyde 23rd June 2011, 17:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by wuyanxu
im surprised that android supporters are accessing forum actually, i thought their battery would have ran out by noon. :p

i get two days from my desire hd with fairly frequent use. three days easy if im trying to make it last. and my screen is massive!
pimlicosound 23rd June 2011, 17:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by raxonb
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!

I don't know, but I'm starting to think the Android fanboys are worse. While protesting the herd-like insta-buy tendencies of Apple fans, they don't seem to realise that they've taken on some of the same characteristics. They're like COD bashers laying down instant pre-orders for BF3, or Dawkins fans criticising Catholics:

"Look at all those God fanboys queuing up to kiss the Pope's hand! Don't they realise they're just being duped by flashy marketing? They're probably trying to convince themselves it's all worthwhile because they've paid so much into the church collection plate! Yeah, not like us atheists - we think for ourselves! By the way, have you read Dawkins' "The God Delusion"? It's the best book ever. One of my Catholic mates tried to criticise it, but he just didn't understand it - what a dummy! Man, I can't wait for his next book - I will definitely buy it, and it will be better than the next translation of the Bible, which will just be the same as the last four translations. Only fanboys buy that same rubbish over and over again!"

Ahh, satire...

Anyway, I get why some people really dislike the behaviour of Apple fans, but you don't build a good argument against them by behaving the same way.
SlowMotionSuicide 23rd June 2011, 17:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by wuyanxu
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigglebyte
Can't the Apple bubble just burst already? I'm tired of seeing people being drawn in by, unfortunately, good marketing and bad products.

nothing wrong with iOS or their products. they are high quality and people buy them all have a good reason.

before you bash on their products, consider this: still nothing beats iPad's battery life. still nothing beats iPhone 4's display. and for people who don't like to tinker, iOS is still the perfect OS. so far, only Galaxy Tab 10.1 have beat ipad 2 on weight, yet build quality is no where near as good.


with iOS 5, i've even started to reconsider my jailbreak habits. the biggest grip i have with iOS have been addressed (by copying Android, i admit).

can't wait to see the new iPhone, i am still unsure whether to upgrade or not, iPhone 4 is still miles better than the Galaxy S i used everyday last month when i was in America. Android to me, feels like Linux (i know it is running on the same kernel) or Windows 95, clunky and everything needs configuring to actually work.

no, im not a fanboy. i was going to buy Galaxy tab 10.1, but decided to get an ipad 2 for 2 reasons: cheaper (second hand deal on BT) and iOS 5 restored my confidence in future of the platform. yes, i did think stock iOS 4 was going down the drain, notification system (or lack of) were driving me crazy.

Rep for quality post. Seems most people bashing Apple products have never actually used them. I got both 3gs and iPad2, and both are great devices. I don't, however, have any sort of urge to update either once Apple puts out something new and shiny.
leveller 23rd June 2011, 18:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimlicosound
I don't know, but I'm starting to think the Android fanboys are worse. While protesting the herd-like insta-buy tendencies of Apple fans, they don't seem to realise that they've taken on some of the same characteristics. They're like COD bashers laying down instant pre-orders for BF3, or Dawkins fans criticising Catholics:

"Look at all those God fanboys queuing up to kiss the Pope's hand! Don't they realise they're just being duped by flashy marketing? They're probably trying to convince themselves it's all worthwhile because they've paid so much into the church collection plate! Yeah, not like us atheists - we think for ourselves! By the way, have you read Dawkins' "The God Delusion"? It's the best book ever. One of my Catholic mates tried to criticise it, but he just didn't understand it - what a dummy! Man, I can't wait for his next book - I will definitely buy it, and it will be better than the next translation of the Bible, which will just be the same as the last four translations. Only fanboys buy that same rubbish over and over again!"

Ahh, satire...

Anyway, I get why some people really dislike the behaviour of Apple fans, but you don't build a good argument against them by behaving the same way.

Spot on.
Shayper09 23rd June 2011, 18:43 Quote
I have an iPhone 4 and love it.

I won't be upgrading to the 5 however, as my contract doesn't run out till next year.

Probably will get the 6 though :)
haddow64 23rd June 2011, 19:03 Quote
I'm currently on the iPhone 4, and I really like it. I have no desire to tweak and tinker with my phone. I have linux on my desktop for that.

But as far as the iPhone 5 goes apple seem to have adopted Intel's tick-tock strategy. Which I think works quite well for most of us on 18 and 24 month contracts.
XXAOSICXX 23rd June 2011, 20:29 Quote
I'll stick with my HTC Sensation plskthx.

And since when did the masses come to accept that a TWO-F**KING-YEAR contract was even remotely acceptable?
Panos 23rd June 2011, 20:34 Quote
I will stick with my trustworthy Nexus S. I don't believe I will replace it until 4G networks are mainstream, and it's successor is out :D
Eiffie 23rd June 2011, 20:44 Quote
I guess I am going to go crawl back into my blackberry cave until something exciting happens.
wafflesomd 23rd June 2011, 20:50 Quote
Who cares. All the droid phone my friends have walk circles around the iphone.
Paulg1971 23rd June 2011, 22:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by B1GBUD
Quote:
Originally Posted by raxonb
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!

They've started queuing

Haha, very good
Toploaded 23rd June 2011, 22:21 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by B1GBUD
Quote:
Originally Posted by raxonb
Where are all the iSupporters?!?!

They've started queuing

*laughs out loud*
lewchenko 23rd June 2011, 22:27 Quote
Former Android User here, now an iOS user with an iPhone 4.

I was surprised at the number of people pouring scorn on Apple for their iPhone when compared to Android. I can't quite understand it to be honest. I ditched Android (self upgraded v2.1 HTC Hero) because quite frankly, I got fed up with the 'Android Issues'...

1. It would gobble memory and slow down which necessitated using a task killer which caused even more issues.
2. The number of apps which 'forced closed' was a joke.
3. The OS is inconsistent, apps too.. Menus all over the place with few standards between apps.
4. Comparative apps in the marketplace lacked polish compared to iOS apps.
5. SLOW updates from the networks and manufactures.... this really is a joke... Orange and HTC would have left me on 1.6 if I hadnt have updated it manually and rooted it.
6. App market place was restricted and fragmented (ie.. you couldnt see all of it depending on your OS version and some apps didnt work properly on my phone).
7. Appalling integration with my PC and Mac

Not what you need really unless you dont value your own time and like tinkering away...

So I bought an iPhone 4. Wow... it just works. The UI is so polished compared to Android. Intuitive and easy to use without any of the issues above. The core advantages to me were :

1. Amazing and unrivalled retina 960x640 screen. Its like reading paper. Even the Samsung Galaxy S2 doesnt beat it.
2. Facetime built in means that I can video conf with ease to all my colleagues/friends with iPhones (that's all of them... honestly, we all own iPhones)
3. Not one crash since using it from November.
4. Polished Appstore where you are guaranteed to find the apps you want.
5. My iPod is now redundant.
6. Polished and seamless integration with my Mac.
7. Updates and First Class Support from Apple... something I never got from HTC.

The only negatives Ive found are

- Yep, the signal loss when you grip it too hard is noticeable... but my HTC had similar issues. Easily avoided
- Notifications are basic ... but the iOS 5 OS due in Sept looks better than Android.


Im sure Android has moved on since the crappy HTC phone I had but I still think that if you want a smart phone that just works, does everything, and still has the best display out there, then you cant go wrong with the iPhone. I wouldnt get a HTC phone again if they paid me, and I hear Samsung, Motorola, LG are just as bad with the updates.

Will I buy the iPhone 5..... maybe.
Dedlite 23rd June 2011, 23:36 Quote
So are ŵe talking about the 5 in September, or the 4s?
Dedlite 23rd June 2011, 23:46 Quote
[QUOTE=lewchenko]Former Android User here, now an iOS user with an iPhone 4.

I was surprised at the number of people pouring scorn on Apple for their iPhone when compared to Android. I can't quite understand it to be honest. I ditched Android (self upgraded v2.1 HTC Hero) because quite frankly, I got fed up with the ...[[\QUOTE]

You might want to put those flame-proof pants on, mate...
brave758 23rd June 2011, 23:59 Quote
Boooooooooooooooor
sheninat0r 24th June 2011, 02:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewchenko
Former Android User here, now an iOS user with an iPhone 4.

I was surprised at the number of people pouring scorn on Apple for their iPhone when compared to Android. I can't quite understand it to be honest. I ditched Android (self upgraded v2.1 HTC Hero) because quite frankly, I got fed up with the 'Android Issues'...

1. It would gobble memory and slow down which necessitated using a task killer which caused even more issues.
2. The number of apps which 'forced closed' was a joke.
3. The OS is inconsistent, apps too.. Menus all over the place with few standards between apps.
4. Comparative apps in the marketplace lacked polish compared to iOS apps.
5. SLOW updates from the networks and manufactures.... this really is a joke... Orange and HTC would have left me on 1.6 if I hadnt have updated it manually and rooted it.
6. App market place was restricted and fragmented (ie.. you couldnt see all of it depending on your OS version and some apps didnt work properly on my phone).
7. Appalling integration with my PC and Mac

Not what you need really unless you dont value your own time and like tinkering away...

So I bought an iPhone 4. Wow... it just works. The UI is so polished compared to Android. Intuitive and easy to use without any of the issues above. The core advantages to me were :

1. Amazing and unrivalled retina 960x640 screen. Its like reading paper. Even the Samsung Galaxy S2 doesnt beat it.
2. Facetime built in means that I can video conf with ease to all my colleagues/friends with iPhones (that's all of them... honestly, we all own iPhones)
3. Not one crash since using it from November.
4. Polished Appstore where you are guaranteed to find the apps you want.
5. My iPod is now redundant.
6. Polished and seamless integration with my Mac.
7. Updates and First Class Support from Apple... something I never got from HTC.

The only negatives Ive found are

- Yep, the signal loss when you grip it too hard is noticeable... but my HTC had similar issues. Easily avoided
- Notifications are basic ... but the iOS 5 OS due in Sept looks better than Android.


Im sure Android has moved on since the crappy HTC phone I had but I still think that if you want a smart phone that just works, does everything, and still has the best display out there, then you cant go wrong with the iPhone. I wouldnt get a HTC phone again if they paid me, and I hear Samsung, Motorola, LG are just as bad with the updates.

Will I buy the iPhone 5..... maybe.

The Hero is a piece of **** phone. I'm tired of mine, not even CM7 can make it non-shitty. If you stuck with stock 2.1, then you must have been living in a world of hurt...
supermonkey 24th June 2011, 03:29 Quote
I'm still using an iPhone 3G. According to my contract, I'm eligible for a subsidized upgrade. I'm thinking that I might wait for the iPhone 5 to hit the streets, then get an iPhone 4 for even less.
fluxtatic 24th June 2011, 06:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by XXAOSICXX
And since when did the masses come to accept that a TWO-F**KING-YEAR contract was even remotely acceptable?

This...a small part of the reason I don't have a cell at all. That, and I have no friends :P But, yes. Two years? You want me to agree to your crappy service for two years? (face it, they're all crap.) No, thanks. Maybe someday there will be real competition to give better service, not what we have now: a race to the bottom of how poorly customers can be treated before they start to bail. At least in the US, the gov't has handed millions to the telecoms (in tax breaks and the like) because they came crying, hats in hands, about how they couldn't afford to give everyone service, and not decent service, without 'incentives'. Rather than taking the money and actually upgrading and improving, all that got upgraded and improved were executive compensation packages.

As far as Apple goes, I'm very curious to see how it goes once teh Steve is gone...my guess is, they'll go under within three years, as they very nearly did when they booted him years ago.
dave99 24th June 2011, 08:40 Quote
Great phones until you turn them this way and th.................
Balance Keeper 24th June 2011, 09:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigglebyte
Can't the Apple bubble just burst already? I'm tired of seeing people being drawn in by, unfortunately, good marketing and bad products.
Its not a buble so why should it burst? Awesome marketing and even better products. But u can continue using ur Chinese or Taiwanese **** crap trash (and yeah i know iphone is being put together on foxcon factories but that doesn't matter cuz engineering and developing is whats matter).
Cei 24th June 2011, 10:31 Quote
Oh the arguments are fantastic.

Won't bother upgrading my iPhone 4 until my contract finishes in June 2012 and the iPhone 6 is out. Speed bump schmeed bump.
Nexxo 24th June 2011, 10:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by fluxtatic
As far as Apple goes, I'm very curious to see how it goes once teh Steve is gone...my guess is, they'll go under within three years, as they very nearly did when they booted him years ago.

Dream on. Steve thinks ten years ahead. He already has succession lined up, and Apple has a path planned out for the next decade. If anything, there will be a little more room for out-of-the-box thinking. Think Google creativity combined with Apple attention to detail.
mrlongbeard 24th June 2011, 11:25 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxo
<snip>If anything, there will be a little more room for out-of-the-box thinking. Think Google creativity combined with Apple attention to detail.

IP3G case enlarged with IP4 res @ 4.3" and Android OS want.
mclean007 24th June 2011, 11:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlongbeard
IP3G case enlarged with IP4 res @ 4.3" and Android OS want.
Care to repeat that in English?
mclean007 24th June 2011, 11:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by XXAOSICXX
And since when did the masses come to accept that a TWO-F**KING-YEAR contract was even remotely acceptable?
Um, since they decided they want to hire purchase a £600 phone for £35 a month, including line rental, unlimited texts and lots of minutes. That stuff costs money, you know, and the phone companies are trying to run a business. If you wanted an iPhone 4 on a 1 year contract, they'd have to charge you £60+ just to break even, and then they wouldn't be able to give you the bundled stuff people expect with a £60+ tariff. It's not rocket science.

If you object to a 2 year contract, just do what I plan to do when my contract expires in November - buy a SIM free phone and switch to a SIM only contract for about £10-15 a month. Avoid being locked in to one network; avoid arbitrary upgrade cycles and just upgrade whenever you want / can afford to. Simple! That's the beauty of the free market economy :-)
Baz 24th June 2011, 12:04 Quote
Suffered 18 months of the HTC hero. Was ready to throw in the Android towel.

Galaxy S 2 = happy android user. Only negative thing about android is the fragmentation of the market. With so many devices, app developers have a hell of a time developing for every phone and configuration. With iPhone, you just dev so the app runs on a 3GS and you're sorted. This means fewer quality games on android specifically.
Denis_iii 24th June 2011, 13:25 Quote
Nokia WinPho7 Mango device for me! :) Never owned an Apple device and feel better for not being screwed nor shafted in some way by the "shiney shiney o no you can't because we say so" commies.
steveo_mcg 24th June 2011, 13:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
Suffered 18 months of the HTC hero. Was ready to throw in the Android towel.

Galaxy S 2 = happy android user. Only negative thing about android is the fragmentation of the market. With so many devices, app developers have a hell of a time developing for every phone and configuration. With iPhone, you just dev so the app runs on a 3GS and you're sorted. This means fewer quality games on android specifically.

I only lasted 12 months with my Hero, its just not powerful enough.

Devices like the Hero are the great strength and weakness with Android, it can compete with Apple and WiMO at the top end with decent powered devices and with lower end phones through low price/power handsets. The problem comes with folk who get a budget handset and expect it to out perform a £600 phone this makes the platform look bad, people round here may realise this and get a better phone but some will just decide that android 'sux' and get an iPhone.
mrlongbeard 24th June 2011, 13:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclean007
Care to repeat that in English?

Delighted ;

That there in a nut shell is my ideal Apple device if they start thinking "outside the box" it would consist of;

>Iphone 3 case scaled up a tad
>Iphone 4 retina display scaled up to 4.3"
>Android operating system, either plain or sense driven

Not specifiying internals as they change so frequently, but dual core and at least 16G internal memory possibly expandable via sd card.

It'll never happen, tiss but a pipe dream, tiss also probably the only circumstance I can see myself going back to Apple.
Boscoe 24th June 2011, 14:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigglebyte
Can't the Apple bubble just burst already? I'm tired of seeing people being drawn in by, unfortunately, good marketing and bad products.

How are any of their products bad?
PCBuilderSven 24th June 2011, 14:39 Quote
I'm perfectly happy with my Nokia N900, Maemo does everything I want it too - Bet you can't develop and run C++ and Python on an iPhone
Ayrto 24th June 2011, 17:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boscoe
How are any of their products bad?


It isn't so much they're bad , they just aren't any better.

This sort of sums it up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYromrN7OI

sry, if it's been seen already
chrisb2e9 24th June 2011, 18:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayrto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boscoe
How are any of their products bad?


It isn't so much they're bad , they just aren't any better.

This sort of sums it up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYromrN7OI

sry, if it's been seen already

haha, nice video. actually sums it up quite well.
wuyanxu 24th June 2011, 20:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlongbeard
Delighted ;

That there in a nut shell is my ideal Apple device if they start thinking "outside the box" it would consist of;

>Iphone 3 case scaled up a tad
>Iphone 4 retina display scaled up to 4.3"
>Android operating system, either plain or sense driven

Not specifiying internals as they change so frequently, but dual core and at least 16G internal memory possibly expandable via sd card.

It'll never happen, tiss but a pipe dream, tiss also probably the only circumstance I can see myself going back to Apple.

> iphone 3G case sucks big time. In terms of sturdiness and feel, original iPhone was the best.
> iphone's size is perfect. I won't want to change a single bit. Do remember back button is usually located on the top left, so it has to be small to allow single hand user to be able to reach that button
> honestly don't see anything good about android, sure it's customisable, but that's about it. No, I don't want apps to link into each other, I just want apps that are self contained.
mrlongbeard 24th June 2011, 21:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by wuyanxu
> iphone 3G case sucks big time. In terms of sturdiness and feel, original iPhone was the best.
> iphone's size is perfect. I won't want to change a single bit. Do remember back button is usually located on the top left, so it has to be small to allow single hand user to be able to reach that button
> honestly don't see anything good about android, sure it's customisable, but that's about it. No, I don't want apps to link into each other, I just want apps that are self contained.

Never used the original, but i did like the 3g case, the curves fitted my hand beautifully, and the quility of the build was right up there.

Size is subjective, I've got big hands, and it's my phone so I can stick the back button where I like :)

Android, I dunno hard to quantify, but I went N95 to Iphone and I was like oh wow this thing rawks then I went onto Android and it was like yes this is better for me nothing definitive, nothing really quantifiable it just works for me.

One point I have noted, those who I know with bog standard Iphones seem to like Android if they switch and were very easy to lure over to the dark side, those I know who have jail-broken their Iphones seem to prefer the Iphone OS and aren't interested in leaving it :?
wuyanxu 24th June 2011, 22:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlongbeard
One point I have noted, those who I know with bog standard Iphones seem to like Android if they switch and were very easy to lure over to the dark side, those I know who have jail-broken their Iphones seem to prefer the Iphone OS and aren't interested in leaving it :?

guess I'm in the last group. I have jailbroken it and won't be able to live without some of those plugin. But there are only 5 plugins, accumulated over 4 years of iPhone usage. (since original) so although I want to tweak, I still don't want to be forced into tweaking my phone to have a pleasant experience. Just pick up and use, apply tweak if there are annoying issues, otherwise as stock as possible.

Never even tweaked my windows setting other than wallpaper, just want something to pick up and use.

Each to their own.
EdwardTeach 24th June 2011, 23:16 Quote
My 3GS contract is up in September, and I will definitely consider the iphone 5.

Very happy with my current phone, but the only thing that will be making me look at android phones is the screen size of some of the models. I spend an unhealthy amount of time browsing the internet on my iphone - a bigger screen would make the experience much nicer.
leveller 26th June 2011, 09:57 Quote
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XXAOSICXX 26th June 2011, 21:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclean007
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Originally Posted by XXAOSICXX
And since when did the masses come to accept that a TWO-F**KING-YEAR contract was even remotely acceptable?
Um, since they decided they want to hire purchase a £600 phone for £35 a month, including line rental, unlimited texts and lots of minutes. That stuff costs money, you know, and the phone companies are trying to run a business. If you wanted an iPhone 4 on a 1 year contract, they'd have to charge you £60+ just to break even, and then they wouldn't be able to give you the bundled stuff people expect with a £60+ tariff. It's not rocket science.

If you object to a 2 year contract, just do what I plan to do when my contract expires in November - buy a SIM free phone and switch to a SIM only contract for about £10-15 a month. Avoid being locked in to one network; avoid arbitrary upgrade cycles and just upgrade whenever you want / can afford to. Simple! That's the beauty of the free market economy :-)

You actually think this has anything to do with just "trying to run a business", like the poor poor telecoms companies are struggling to get by? Seriously. Think again. It's nothing more than trying to lock people down for longer to just make more profit after the cost of the phone has been covered.

And if you actually think that because the full retail price (say, £500-£600) for a top-of-the-line is what the big-boys like Orange/Voda/T-Mob etc are paying then you're very much mistaken. I would (and happily do) pay £5 more on a monthly basis for a phone to reduce the length of my contract because it's a significant saving over paying additional full-price line rental for an extra 6 or 12 months on a longer contract. Plus, the resale price of the phone is higher if the phone is a more recent model/newer.

Will you still be using the same argument in a few years time when 36 months or 48 month contracts become the norm?
rogerrabbits 27th June 2011, 02:27 Quote
Love my iPhone 4, I can't see the point in this one though. Everything is instant, so the faster processor is worthless to me. The only thing that would make it worthwhile for me, is if people started developing fancier games that make use of it, but I can't see that happening for a long time.
Nexxo 27th June 2011, 11:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by XXAOSICXX
You actually think this has anything to do with just "trying to run a business", like the poor poor telecoms companies are struggling to get by? Seriously. Think again. It's nothing more than trying to lock people down for longer to just make more profit after the cost of the phone has been covered.

And if you actually think that because the full retail price (say, £500-£600) for a top-of-the-line is what the big-boys like Orange/Voda/T-Mob etc are paying then you're very much mistaken. I would (and happily do) pay £5 more on a monthly basis for a phone to reduce the length of my contract because it's a significant saving over paying additional full-price line rental for an extra 6 or 12 months on a longer contract. Plus, the resale price of the phone is higher if the phone is a more recent model/newer.

Will you still be using the same argument in a few years time when 36 months or 48 month contracts become the norm?
In 1996 the price of an average mobile phone was about £200,-- (£283,-- in today's money). Today, smartphones can go up to around £600,--. Someone's got to foot the bill for that...

Now, Telecoms companies have been raking it in over termination charges (what they charge other telecoms providers to handle their calls; say, when someone from a BT landline calls your O2 mobile) but Offcom has put a stop to that. At the same time, data traffic has doubled just over the last year. So telecoms providers are faced with maintenance of a massive infrastructure (you think that being able to make a call from a 0.5 Watts transmitter/receiver in the middle of nowhere, or in a city seething with a million of similar transmitter/receivers clamouring for attention all happens by magic faeries?), expansion of same as people want access to WiFi anywhere, anytime, and increase of data service use, while at the same time Offcom is cutting off other points of revenue. And, of course, there are the bids for use of the 3G and 4G spectrum to pay for, and competition in the market is fierce. So yeah, expect them to try and make a buck wherever they can.

You don't like it? Fret not. Buy your handset, full price, and get your own PAYG sim-only contract. ;)
XXAOSICXX 27th June 2011, 14:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
You don't like it? Fret not. Buy your handset, full price, and get your own PAYG sim-only contract. ;)

Or...I could stick with the 12 month contract I negotiated out of Vodafone with no down payment for my HTC Sensation, plskthx.

You royally missed my point. I wasn't saying telecoms companies shouldn't offer longer contracts, I am just a little disappointed that people have accepted it as the norm when it doesn't need to be.
Nexxo 27th June 2011, 20:34 Quote
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.


Guess which category this issue falls into? :)
Allnights 30th June 2011, 01:22 Quote
What utter fanboyism waffle I get to read from time to time.

I only looked on here because 4 people I know use Apple iPhones, two are family members.

Now wnever I buy absolutely anything, OR anything I do for that matter, I research it first. I look at what is the best performing most useable and will still work at the end of the day. Apples fit none of these categories.

As for the rant on Android absolute rubbish I am afraid to say.

I have a Motorola Defy and in the rain with my brother he was cowering under a tree protecting his iPhone 4 while I was flicking screens, talking and texting in the very heavy rain. He hates his phone and says, jokingly, how he only has to show his phone a running tap and it breaks down.

Another friend is a HUGE Apple fanboy and constantly praises his iPhone 4 calling mine rubbish. However, it is I, as an IT engineer, that is always correcting iTunes problems and they are so fed up with its bloatedness I have to build them a new PC just so they do not wait three days for their phones to upgrade or sync song or movies. Plus if you want to write apps Apple take 30% whereas Google take 10% and THAT is why the number of apps is growing a great deal faster than Apples.

Also my phone helped the authorities catch the worst kind of criminals in the UK and saved lives. I doubt I would have found that quite so easy with an Apple! Especially with iTunes on my old laptop and jailbreaking a lot harder than on Android.

If Apple's products suit your needs then goody for you. But do not come on here stating this is better than that, you do not know what you are talking about.

Every product fits a need. My phone did this and then some and along the way it saved many lives. Yes there are some niggles but these are only minor, like still waiting for 2.2 or 2.3 android. As for Force Closing I do not know what you use to get all those problems but I have only had 1 in 20 or more do that. I have an app for just about everything and another brother who uses HTC with Android, asked what I had them all on there for as I could not use them all, when in fact I do!

Now I am wondering why I even bothered to type this out!
leveller 30th June 2011, 08:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Allnights
1) I have a Motorola Defy and in the rain with my brother he was cowering under a tree protecting his iPhone 4 while I was flicking screens, talking and texting in the very heavy rain. He hates his phone and says, jokingly, how he only has to show his phone a running tap and it breaks down.

2) However, it is I, as an IT engineer, that is always correcting iTunes problems and they are so fed up with its bloatedness I have to build them a new PC just so they do not wait three days for their phones to upgrade or sync song or movies.

3) Also my phone helped the authorities catch the worst kind of criminals in the UK and saved lives. I doubt I would have found that quite so easy with an Apple! Especially with iTunes on my old laptop and jailbreaking a lot harder than on Android.

4) If Apple's products suit your needs then goody for you. But do not come on here stating this is better than that, you do not know what you are talking about.

5) My phone did this and then some and along the way it saved many lives.

6) Now I am wondering why I even bothered to type this out!

1) Now that sounds like the kind of feature that Apple needs to add to a future iPhone. or iWetPhone. I wouldn't need it, but I imagine people working outdoors would find that VERY useful.

2) 3 days for their phones to update or sync songs?! You being an IT engineer, I would expect you to recognise an underpowered computer before blaming iTunes.

3) You are an IT engineer, with a phone that helps you catch criminals and save peoples lives ... sounds exciting, almost Superman-like, explain! Although from the way you've worded this part, you seem to be suggesting that if iTunes were on your laptop and with the iPhone being harder to jailbreak, you would find it harder to catch criminals and save lives using iPhone? Not sure how iTunes being on your laptop would hinder your Superman-like powers ... nor having difficulty in jailbreaking iPhones ... other people seem to jailbreak them fine ... and how would a jailbroken iPhone be more life-saving than a non-jailbroken iPhone?!

4) {blank} (Left blank intentionally).

5) You seem to be emphasising that Android saves lives ... ok, let's all buy Android phones and save lives!!!!

6) Agreed.
wuyanxu 30th June 2011, 09:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by Allnights
What utter fanboyism waffle I get to read from time to time.

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1> Now wnever I buy absolutely anything, OR anything I do for that matter, I research it first. I look at what is the best performing most useable and will still work at the end of the day. Apples fit none of these categories.

2> Another friend is a HUGE Apple fanboy and constantly praises his iPhone 4 calling mine rubbish. However, it is I, as an IT engineer, that is always correcting iTunes problems and they are so fed up with its bloatedness I have to build them a new PC just so they do not wait three days for their phones to upgrade or sync song or movies. Plus if you want to write apps Apple take 30% whereas Google take 10% and THAT is why the number of apps is growing a great deal faster than Apples.

3> If Apple's products suit your needs then goody for you. But do not come on here stating this is better than that, you do not know what you are talking about.

i read a lot of waffle in quoted post also.

1> if you've done your research, you'll have learnt iphone 4 performs same as galaxy s when both launched a year ago, they were both the best performing, most usable phone. regarding still work, i'd have thought the phone have longer battery life would fit that category better.

2> as an IT engineer (if that exists, software engineer? ) you should have recognised it's itune's problem, not the phone's. problem sits at the other end of the cable, so why are you blaming the phone?

3> same to you to ;)
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