Gates and Jobs to share the love on stage

Will Jobs keep his cool on stage with Gates?

In an awesome bit of news, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are going to be on stage, together, debating the future of technology at the Wall Street Journal 'D' Conference.

How often do you get to put Jobs and Gates in a room together and watch them go at it?

Of course, technically, the two are partners. Microsoft produces Office for OSX, as well as Messenger. But there's been no love lost between the two recently, with Gates accusing Apple of lying in their recent Mac vs PC ads.

The last time the pair appeared together was when Gates made a video appearance at MacWorld in 1997, announcing Microsoft's support for OSX.

The conference takes place in May, and the fight, sorry, debate will be moderated by the WSJ's technology editor, Walt Mossberg. Other speakers at the conference include Google CEO Eric Schmidt; CBS President Les Moonves; Cisco CEO John Chambers; film director George Lucas; online pioneer Steve Case; Time Inc. CEO Ann Moore; News Corp. President Peter Chernin; Palm founder Jeff Hawkins; and Steve Chen and Chad Hurley of YouTube.

Do you think the pair will get up on stage and announce "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC"? Do you think they can possibly remain civil? Will Jobs be unbearably arrogant? Or are we in for one of the greatest spectacles of our time? Let us know your thoughts over in the forums.
Quote d3fiant 21st February 2007, 11:28
rofl, a tec version of celebrity deathmatch :P
Quote Godboy_g 21st February 2007, 12:49
I think that it would be insanely hilarious if they came out and introduced themselves as "I'm a Mac", and "I'm a PC"..... of course then the debate would probably degenerate into a fight, with Jobs chucking iPhones at Bill, and Bill chucking Zunes at Jobs....LOL
Quote airchie 21st February 2007, 12:51
lmao, I'm looking forward to reading about the fallout from this... :D
Quote Darkedge 21st February 2007, 12:52
Since Jobs so wants to be Bill, he'll probably just skin bill and wear him like a coat.
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again"
Quote perplekks45 21st February 2007, 13:05
Any chance of a live stream of this? I'd really love to see these getting it on live. :)
Quote Nova 21st February 2007, 13:18
itll be on youtube if nothing else...

i wanna go to catch a few bloody iphones and zunes!
Quote raGe82 21st February 2007, 13:29
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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666
Any chance of a live stream of this? I'd really love to see these getting it on live. :)
Probably will be on Gates' site on MS server with his other "shows" ;)

I'm looking forward to this debate - Gates and Jobs got some good ideas, so it might be interresting :)
Quote TomH 21st February 2007, 14:17
Now this, will be bloody brilliant.

The Cisco CEO and Lucas will probably have some interesting points, aside from the obvious spectacularity of Jobs vs. Gates. :D

(And all we'd need is John Carmack on stage to tell them they're both idiots! :p )
Quote tuteja1986 21st February 2007, 14:21
Well i hope bill does his homework so he can launch a massive blow and make sure steve knows what a total defeat means. But seeing Bill's recent interview he will most probably loose since as he would have to support the zune. Steve job sort of reminds me of hitler... he knows not much about technology but he can please the people can create a fanbase (like SS) that will buy anything for what ever the price.
Quote TomH 21st February 2007, 14:29
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Originally Posted by tuteja1986
Well i hope bill does his homework so he can launch a massive blow and make sure steve knows what a total defeat means. But seeing Bill's recent interview he will most probably loose since as he would have to support the zune. Steve job sort of reminds me of hitler... he knows not much about technology but he can please the people can create a fanbase (like SS) that will buy anything for what ever the price.
Woah.

Hold on there. Steve Jobs might not be perfect (unless you're an Apple nut) but even if you're not a total Mac-Convert; comparing him and his fans to Hitler and the SS, is very off-base.

I'm not exactly biased either way; both men (and their respective companies) have their plusses and minuses -- but since when did Jobs suffer a 'total defeat' from Bill Gates?

I seem to be seeing more and more people on the UK shores, particularly, whom are suddenly discovering how nice things are in the OSX world.
Quote Buzzons 21st February 2007, 14:42
ROFL that will be awesome

wonder if the stats of desktop share will come up at all (96% to 3% isnt it?) or the month of apple bugs etc
Quote Mathmarauder 21st February 2007, 15:10
It's in both their interests to remain cool, calm and collected, otherwise you will look bad up there.

I'm not saying a fist fight wouldn't be interesting though.
Quote Tyinsar 21st February 2007, 17:02
Jobs: "Hi, I'm a Mac"

Gates: "Your commercials are mostly lies and I outsell you 30:1. No I'm not playing your silly game - Macs got no game(s)."
Quote c0d3_z3r0 21st February 2007, 19:27
This will be interesting , I hope it ends up on youtube so we can watch it.

When I saw this I had to post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4
Quote unrealhippie 21st February 2007, 19:46
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Originally Posted by c0d3_z3r0
This will be interesting , I hope it ends up on youtube so we can watch it.

When I saw this I had to post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4

That video is pretty damn good :)
Quote DXR_13KE 21st February 2007, 19:53
MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!!! *cue in mortal kombat music*


i will want to see this :D


FINISH HIM!!!!!!!
Quote perplekks45 21st February 2007, 20:04
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Originally Posted by Tom Hill
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-- but since when did Jobs suffer a 'total defeat' from Bill Gates?
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Not a total defeat but he had to accept Apple turning to x86 architecture to gain more market share, right?
Quote Ramble 21st February 2007, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Tom Hill
but since when did Jobs suffer a 'total defeat' from Bill Gates?

3% v. 90%

I'd say that's a total defeat right there.
Quote adam197 21st February 2007, 23:05
There's a bit of inaccurate information in the article. At MacWorld 1997 OSX wasn't even discussed (OS8 having just been released iirc from my early Mac days)
The appearance of Bill Gates can be seen here on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
Quote speedfreek 22nd February 2007, 00:58
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Will Jobs be unbearably arrogant?

My experience with the hardcore mac fans is that they usually are, it would be nice to see a somewhat civil discussion with a few jabs here and there. :D
Quote TomH 22nd February 2007, 01:47
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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666
Not a total defeat but he had to accept Apple turning to x86 architecture to gain more market share, right?
I don't see that as a defeat by Microsoft, it's not really in the same context to begin with. Apple's reasons for switching to Intel x86 processors were because IBM couldn't produce what they wanted, when they wanted.

They took it in their stride and bloody hell -- it worked. Sucess. Win. Their products have improved, not only in performance, but in compatiblity and flexibility. I'd say being able to run Windows XP or Vista reliably on a Mac is the nail in the coffin for a LOT of users who'd love a Mac, but couldn't afford to lose Windows.
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Originally Posted by Ramble
3% v. 90%

I'd say that's a total defeat right there.
Exclude business customers from that and you'll have a much narrower spread. Business customers are biased on price; they don't give a damn about quality. It just has to work. It just so happens the cheapest hardware back in the day came with Microsoft's software loaded on it.

Microsoft built for businesses, and work places were the first place a lot of people in my parents' generation came into contact with computers. They learnt Microsoft, they know Microsoft and 99% of them really do need Microsoft -- because they don't know anything else.

It's an efficient strategy, and one that snow-balls with time. It's only really now that people are trying to move away from 'the monopoly'. I definitely wouldn't see a business (besides your graphic design houses) even consider switching to a complete Mac-based network. Your average bean counter would look at the TCO and drop a brick. Cheap hardware + cheap OS = Linux, hence Microsoft's main rival these days.

Besides, if we go back to the main point at hand -- regardless of Microsoft's lion share of the desktop market, I'm pretty sure Apple's user-base is on the up. You don't call that a defeat do you?

Firefox's market share is what, 10%? Compared to the 80-something percent of IE. Since when have the Mozilla team suffered a defeat? Their user-base steadily rose and even now it's steadying out, you wouldn't refer to it as a defeat unless it starts snow-balling back towards 0% again.

Being so narrow-minded really is a shame. I'm pretty anti-apple (aside from OSX), but they're definitely not defeated -- and rising in my books all the time.
Quote scq 22nd February 2007, 02:21
Macs aren't exactly up there in quality. Not saying that PCs are any better - but I'm fairly Macs are pumped out by the exact same companies and places that pump out other PCs.

To say that an Apple branded Asus Macbook is better than Asus' own line is just sheer arrogance unless you can objectively prove it - because as far as I'm concerned, the same factory and the same standards = the same quality.

Macs might be more eloquently designed, but let's not debate build quality, because Apple has their own plagues of issues.
Quote tuteja1986 22nd February 2007, 02:25
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Originally Posted by Tom Hill
Woah.

Hold on there. Steve Jobs might not be perfect (unless you're an Apple nut) but even if you're not a total Mac-Convert; comparing him and his fans to Hitler and the SS, is very off-base.

I'm not exactly biased either way; both men (and their respective companies) have their plusses and minuses -- but since when did Jobs suffer a 'total defeat' from Bill Gates?

I seem to be seeing more and more people on the UK shores, particularly, whom are suddenly discovering how nice things are in the OSX world.

I am not saying OSX is bad , i am saying Job is not the great leader as most of you think of him as. See german did develop the best tanks (panther) and plane (me262) in ww2.
Quote Redbeaver 22nd February 2007, 14:43
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Originally Posted by c0d3_z3r0
This will be interesting , I hope it ends up on youtube so we can watch it.

When I saw this I had to post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4

wow, tat IS pretty good... lol
Quote randosome 22nd February 2007, 16:26
Quote:
Originally Posted by c0d3_z3r0
This will be interesting , I hope it ends up on youtube so we can watch it.

When I saw this I had to post it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4
lmao thats great :D
Quote f U z ! o N 22nd February 2007, 21:12
i want tickets to the show! lol
Quote TomH 22nd February 2007, 23:42
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Originally Posted by f U z ! o N
i want tickets to the show! lol
I do believe it's sold out already, chap. :'(
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