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Sony PS4 price set at £349 ($399), and specs revealed

Sony PS4 price set at £349 ($399), and specs revealed

The PS4 will be £80 cheaper than the Xbox One.

Sony has revealed that the PS4 price will be £349 ($399), some £80 cheaper than its major competitor the Xbox One.

The news will be a massive blow for Microsoft after the company revealed only hours earlier that it intended to charge £429 for its new console.

Further compounding the bad news for Microsoft is that Sony revealed the PlayStation 4 will fully support reuse of games bought on disc, allowing for secondhand games to be sold or lent to friends. In contrast the Xbox One may require online activation and have other restrictions on how users can lend and sell-on their games (it will be somewhat developer/publisher dependent).

Announcing the pricing right at the end of its E3 2013 press conference, the reaction from analysts, commentators and on social media has been immediate and strong, with the majority of opinion about which of the two new consoles will be the favourite having swung massively in favour of Sony, suggesting Microsoft may have to rethink its pricing plans even before launch.

Both consoles will be arriving towards the tail end of the year, with the Xbox One released date confirmed as being in November.

PS4 Specs

The PS4 hardware design was also revealed today, showing the console to sport a similar look to the Xbox One, with flat sides and sharp angles. It was also confirmed that it will have a 500GB hard drive and be region-free.

As for the console's processors the CPU part will utilise eight Jaguar cores while the GPU part will use 18 compute units running at 800MHz, for a total processing power of 1.84 TFLOPS. The final specs of the Xbox One haven't yet been revealed but it is believed its GPU will have 12 processing units running at the same speed. As has long been confirmed, both consoles use chips made by AMD and that incorporate the CPU and GPU onto a single piece of silicon.

  • Product name: PlayStation 4 Jet Black
  • Product code: CUH-1000A series
  • Recommended retail price: US $399, Canada $399, Europe €399, and UK £349
  • Main processor: Single-chip custom processor
  • CPU: x86/64 AMD "Jaguar", eight cores
  • GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon based graphics engine
  • Memory: GDDR5 8GB
  • Storage: 500GB hard disk drive
  • External dimensions: Approx 275x53x305mm (width x height x length -tentative, excludes largest projection)
  • Mass: Approx 2.8kg
  • Optical Drive: BD x6 CAV, DVD x8 CAV (read only)
  • Input/Output: Super-Speed USB (USB 3.0) port x2, AUX port x1
  • Networking: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x1, IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR)
  • AV Output: HDMI out port, Toslink SPDIF
  • Included: PlayStation 4 system, wireless controller (Dual Shock) x1, mono headset x1, AC power cord x1, HDMI cable x1, USB cable x1


What are your thoughts on the PS4? Has Sony hit a home run, and is there anyway back for the Xbox One?

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Sub-particle 0.76 11th June 2013, 05:36 Quote
Glad I pre-ordered this instead of the hideous Xbox One. The price is spot on - I have to cancel it if it went higher than I would consider but 349 squids is OK. What about the HDD size though. I missed it.
Neogumbercules 11th June 2013, 06:05 Quote
Sony pretty much destroyed Microsoft. That conference was a videogaming A-bomb. (well except for the part where the ACIV demo crashed...)

Also, Sony was nice enough to post a useful instructional video about how their used game policy works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vfjdaU3lkA
GoodBytes 11th June 2013, 06:34 Quote
Yea, PS4 won bug time.
The only sucky thing is that now you need to pay for online play. At least they said it on the stage. So they were up front.
Neogumbercules 11th June 2013, 06:51 Quote
Yeah nothing left to speculation, which is great. I just find it so funny when MS released their giant convoluted guide to how used games, DRM, etc will work on the One, and Sony releases the above video. Adam Boyes is a PR genius.

Good thing with PS+ though, is yeah even though now we need a sub to play online, they offer such great value. Drive Club being a free game at launch with your PS+ subscription... that's huge.

Gaf is going bananas, it's hilarious to watch.
Bindibadgi 11th June 2013, 07:45 Quote
Backwards compatible? Or will it have PS3 games on their store? There's still some I want to play but I'll hold off for PS4 if it can.
Corky42 11th June 2013, 07:51 Quote
Im trying to think of a reason people would choose a Xbone over a PS4...Errrm.....Ahhhh, Nope,,,,Anyone ?
dipzy 11th June 2013, 08:02 Quote
[QUOTE=Neogumbercules;3362509
Also, Sony was nice enough to post a useful instructional video about how their used game policy works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vfjdaU3lkA[/QUOTE]

I loved that video :)

They have certainly priced it right this time and looks like they have really taken on feedback and any drawbacks from when the first PS3 launched and ensured it don't happen with PS4, i say well done Sony. Design wise, its ok. Looks more cooler than the xbox one
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 08:13 Quote
PS3 games in the cloud as the PS4 isn't hardware compatible at all with the PS3
Gunsmith 11th June 2013, 08:19 Quote
I'm still in awe at the crowds reaction when they announced their policies on used games and online authentication.

I did giggle
Corky42 11th June 2013, 08:24 Quote
Any link to the crowds reaction ? i could do with cheering up :)
Gunsmith 11th June 2013, 08:26 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky42
Any link to the crowds reaction ? i could do with cheering up :)

edit: found better quality version

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longweight 11th June 2013, 08:31 Quote
I was going for the xbox this time, definitely sticking with Sony now!
Corky42 11th June 2013, 08:35 Quote
Nice, thanks B)
Its going to be interesting to see how much customer loyalty comes into play at launch time, what with Xbox currently holding the largest market share ATM.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 08:37 Quote
gamers going ` woohoo` - but gamers don't publish games , and publishers are looking at the bottom line of $$$$


and who will bring in more $$$$?

Microsoft. Hence the Billion $ exlusives.
Krikkit 11th June 2013, 08:38 Quote
Read the news on this via Twitter as I awoke this morning, MS have been dealt a bloody nose imo.

Not only does it look better (subjective I know), but it sounds much less complicated than the farce that is XBO.
GravitySmacked 11th June 2013, 08:47 Quote
Well I'll be keeping that PS4 pre-order then; MS have been sucker punched for sure.
SlowMotionSuicide 11th June 2013, 08:50 Quote
Sony's console starts to look pretty decent. Price was definitely a pleasant surprise.

Hopefully Microsoft's endeavor will be an epic failure, I'm crossing fingers for something like 30 000 units sold in total worldwide.
Bindibadgi 11th June 2013, 08:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
gamers going ` woohoo` - but gamers don't publish games , and publishers are looking at the bottom line of $$$$

and who will bring in more $$$$?

Microsoft. Hence the Billion $ exlusives.

Depends - if PS4 outsells X1 maybe 2-to-1 then publishers will have to think again. MS can drive exclusives to drive sales, but it's a small part of the overall gaming business.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 08:57 Quote
I do agree there , but look at the way EA have gone , more draconian measures.

but someone told me recently , we`ll be seeing £70+ for games soon
mars-bar-man 11th June 2013, 09:06 Quote
So, when can I throw my money towards Sony?
liratheal 11th June 2013, 09:14 Quote
So 350 is fine, but **** me sideways, 90 for a second controller (according to Amazon)?

That's pretty steep.
mars-bar-man 11th June 2013, 09:16 Quote
Hopefully that'll drop, could just a guess by Amazon until Sony give a price for peripherals?

Well, we can hope anyway.
will_123 11th June 2013, 09:21 Quote
Im happy if MS got shown up at e3! All their DRM crap really annoyed me! Especially the second hand games. That was a real deal breaker for me.
Gunsmith 11th June 2013, 09:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by will_123
Im happy if MS got shown up at e3! All their DRM crap really annoyed me! Especially the second hand games. That was a real deal breaker for me.

you're a bit late, they got slaughtered.
law99 11th June 2013, 09:47 Quote
Looks like the PS3 experience was a humbling one for Sony.
cool_dude 11th June 2013, 10:05 Quote
Nice Sony, time for you to get back on top.
sandys 11th June 2013, 10:11 Quote
Well I never, looks like a bargain for me, particularly as I am already locked into SEN ecosystem for PS3/Vita games and Music etc. I would of paid more.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 10:12 Quote
now all sony need to announce is the ability to keep your current PSN account + games and voila , sorted
mars-bar-man 11th June 2013, 10:16 Quote
I'm pretty sure they said you'd be able to keep your PS+ account, so I'm guessing the PSN will work the same.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 10:22 Quote
had a good read of the announcements and gonna go out on a limb (which PS4 wont like)


Xbox One will win Christmas 2013.

great , we saw a lot of awesome titles for PS4 BUT , what was the 1 overriding observation? they are pretty much all 2014 release.

whilst xbox will have a swarth of AAA titles on day 1.
Baguette 11th June 2013, 10:26 Quote
THis is the start of the end for microsoft..So damn happy games on PC are moving progressively on linux.
Back on track, PS4 is a genuinly valid alternative to the PC experience at that price point for all it offers. They hit most of the right buttons, if not all. IT's a difficult decision to scrap backwards compatibility but it was inevitable, and they did a good job of the whole cloud gaming thing to compensate.

Also, their ad campaign? Bloody brilliant...
I find it sexy too....
Parge 11th June 2013, 10:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin

but someone told me recently , we`ll be seeing £70+ for games soon

Lets not forget, this is what games used to cost back in N64 days.
law99 11th June 2013, 10:40 Quote
Exactly. Games used to be really expensive... £40 a pop. And it's not like a chocolate bar where you can just shrink it or say "new bigger bag" and charge more for the same amount as before.
liratheal 11th June 2013, 10:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by liratheal
So 350 is fine, but **** me sideways, 90 for a second controller (according to Amazon)?

That's pretty steep.

Friend of mine pointed me at a list of prices, supposedly the controllers should be 54 - Hoping amazon just dropped a bollock on that one and haven't updated it yet.
Yaka 11th June 2013, 10:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parge
Lets not forget, this is what games used to cost back in N64 days.

Some n64 for games rose in price due to lack off supply I remember when orcarina of time sold out and game/EB, gameplay etc raised the price
dactone 11th June 2013, 11:19 Quote
I'v not had a ps since ps2,If I where to buy a console ,I'd defo go with sony this time.
That's a biy ''if'' tho. I'd rather buy a gtx770.
Corky42 11th June 2013, 11:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
great , we saw a lot of awesome titles for PS4 BUT , what was the 1 overriding observation? they are pretty much all 2014 release.

whilst xbox will have a swarth of AAA titles on day 1.

So far the list of confirmed PS4 launch day titles does look a little lack luster, but there is still time for publishers to get that sorted....

Rumor has it some of these maybe finished by launch

Killzone 4, Deus Ex Human Revolution 2, Gran Turismo 6, Infraworld, Assassin’s Creed 4,
Uncharted 4, Titan, Need For Speed, Crysis 3, Beyond Good & Evil 2, Metal Gear Solid 5.
Bindibadgi 11th June 2013, 11:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky42
Rumor has it some of these maybe finished by launch
Gran Turismo 6,

LOLOLOL

Given GT history, launch of the Slim version you mean?

:D:D
PCBuilderSven 11th June 2013, 12:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky42
Im trying to think of a reason people would choose a Xbone over a PS4...Errrm.....Ahhhh, Nope,,,,Anyone ?

I'm trying to think of a reason why people would choose either a PS4 or an Xbox over a PC
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodBytes
The only sucky thing is that now you need to pay for online play.

Once again the cheaper original price of a console is offset by additional costs for things that are free on PC. I was only matter of time before Sony decided they wanted to cash in too, as Microsoft have proved people are stupid enough to accept it.
rollo 11th June 2013, 12:15 Quote
I was already paying Sony for its online services so nothing really changes there, PS+ gold thing for free games each month.

Sonys price is what id consider good £349 is a decent amount cheaper than the xboxone and also puts the total cost for parents at about £100 less if taking the estimates that are out there for games and pads.

If Sony can get it to these shores for Christmas 2013 ( dout either this or xbox one will see a uk launch for christmas ) then they will dominate on price alone.

All of the game exclusives ive seen are on the pc as well that I personally want to play.

Sonys biggest win was in second hand and pre owned games, This market is huge and by allowing it they have basically stuck 2 fingers up at Microsofts crazy policys. I would expect a Uturn on that policy before luanch.

As they have just lost on price and second hand games sales. Sony has not even had to reveal a game list to get its console in hyper drive.

Microsofts price is wrong and its second hand usage policy is wrong they have made 2 big errors and id expect them to pay for those errors world wide.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 12:39 Quote
the only reason its cheaper is because you`ll need to buy the PS4 eye and wand.... both of which the Kinect can do already in 1 unit.

the camera on the PS3 Eye is 1 lens , whereas the Kinect has 3 (why you can bounce around and it can track you)

so grabbing a genuine price link from amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-Move-Starter-Camera-Controller/dp/B003S9WRYW

£50 for the camera and wand ,if comparable to the PS4 version pushes the PS4 price up to where the xbox one will be,
sandys 11th June 2013, 12:44 Quote
PS4 must come with the camera otherwise what is the point of Sony putting the move light in the PS4 controller?

So I don't think you'll need to buy them, you might want the move controller from an ergonomics perspective though.
rollo 11th June 2013, 12:44 Quote
Why would anyone buy a wand and an EYE unless you plan to play games that use it which the Adult market surely wont. Kinect I have never owned and would never buy unless it was forced onto me.

Same as PS Move crap both were trying to tap into the Wii market. I can name one EYE + wand game and thats some harry potter crap. ( the book of spells i think its called) Guess its a great little kids game.

I dont know many Adults who want to play with Wands do you?

Microsoft should not be defended for its poor pricing.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 12:48 Quote
PS4 wont come with the camera



and Rollo - the ` fun games` market is very large , your falling into the fanboy trap of discounting the casual gamers. look at facebook games , tablet and smartphone games. they earn more money from mobile games than from consoles.

so you cannot ignore that market. saldy though its a fickle as heck market , far more than the ` omfg im a raging teen with cowadoody` one.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 12:51 Quote
also I bet real money MS will be looking at bundling the XBO without the kinectHD and it`ll launch at £329 ;)
sandys 11th June 2013, 12:51 Quote
Having both a Wii and Move and play them with my missus and daughter I'd say that they are used, not a lot but they work well for some games. It may not be for you but the kids love this stuff.

As for tracking in and out Sony did a pretty good job with that with one camera and a light as the controller has motion sensors in, worked great IMO.
CarlT2001 11th June 2013, 12:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
also I bet real money MS will be looking at bundling the XBO without the kinectHD and it`ll launch at £329 ;)

AFAIK you cannot escape the new Kinect. It is a key part of the system and has to be on all the time.
mikemaher205 11th June 2013, 13:10 Quote
There's one thing Sony still need to do to win my support again...

Official driver support to use the PlayStation controller pad with a PC.

Microsoft created an Xbox controller for PC, so why didn't Sony? Considering the PS3 controller connected via detachable cable and used Bluetooth connectivity, and with many modern motherboards having Bluetooth as standard, golden time to cash in on "Bluetooth Wireless Gaming?"
Corky42 11th June 2013, 13:15 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
the only reason its cheaper is because you`ll need to buy the PS4 eye and wand
You wont need to buy them if you dont want them. And unlike the Xbone you don't get forced to have a NSA spy cam in your house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollo
I dont know many Adults who want to play with Wands do you?
I have always been told you will grow hair on the palms of your hands if you do :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlT2001
AFAIK you cannot escape the new Kinect. It is a key part of the system and has to be on all the time.
We have been told you can turn it off.
AlienwareAndy 11th June 2013, 13:38 Quote
Pie_uk 11th June 2013, 14:00 Quote
what is the hdd size for this bad boy, cant wait to get this console. adios microsoft
Vallachia 11th June 2013, 14:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky42
Im trying to think of a reason people would choose a Xbone over a PS4...Errrm.....Ahhhh, Nope,,,,Anyone ?

Fratboys and whiney, foul-mouthed little tea-bagging 11 year old b****es will still buy an XBone. Which is a good thing, we don't want them on the PSN anyway.
Vallachia 11th June 2013, 14:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pie_uk
what is the hdd size for this bad boy, cant wait to get this console. adios microsoft

PS4 ships with a 500GB hard drive. It can be user upgraded too.
Vallachia 11th June 2013, 14:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
gamers going ` woohoo` - but gamers don't publish games , and publishers are looking at the bottom line of $$$$


and who will bring in more $$$$?

Microsoft. Hence the Billion $ exlusives.

They won't bring in more $$$ if no one buys the console.
Guinevere 11th June 2013, 14:12 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikemaher205
There's one thing Sony still need to do to win my support again... Official driver support to use the PlayStation controller pad with a PC.

So you won't buy a PS4 unless there's an official driver for the controller to be used on a competing platform? What about an unofficial driver such as on the PS3? That not good enough for you?
rollo 11th June 2013, 14:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
also I bet real money MS will be looking at bundling the XBO without the kinectHD and it`ll launch at £329 ;)

I'd take your bet.
Harlequin 11th June 2013, 14:15 Quote
https://twitter.com/il_cattivo/status/344368318402142208

unlike XBO , PS4 Netflix not behind paywall
Otis1337 11th June 2013, 14:37 Quote
funny to see xbox fan boys desperately clutching at straws lol...
dipzy 11th June 2013, 14:47 Quote
Do you guys it will be offered in other colours at launch or later on when they release slimmer versions like they did with PS3?
Would love a white to match my samsung tv, ps vita and PS3
suenstar 11th June 2013, 14:59 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by dipzy
Do you guys it will be offered in other colours at launch or later on when they release slimmer versions like they did with PS3?
Would love a white to match my samsung tv, ps vita and PS3
It'll likely be one colour at launch with the other colours being special editions later down the line, probably around 6+ months after launch.

I'd like another crimson red console as that colour fits into my entertainment suite quite nicely, but black will do for now.
Blackshark 11th June 2013, 17:34 Quote
THe X Box one was designed for Americans, by Americans. So I wish them luck with it. I mean MS said themselves that the only reason to buy it was for the amazing american football or some other rubbish american sport coverage. THey are welcome to it.

For the first time ever I am thinking of buying a console and not investing in a PC and the PS4 has my deposit.
fix-the-spade 11th June 2013, 17:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollo

As they have just lost on price and second hand games sales. Sony has not even had to reveal a game list to get its console in hyper drive..

There was a rumor on gaf that Microsoft had got it's chequebook out to dissuade various devs and publishers from announcing PS3 versions at E3, which may explain the scarcity of announced software. Of course there's still two days left for them to really batter Microsoft around.
fix-the-spade 11th June 2013, 17:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
also I bet real money MS will be looking at bundling the XBO without the kinectHD and it`ll launch at £329 ;)
The once you've set it up, you have to go to the shops and buy a Kinect sensor anyway, Microsoft have already confirmed that the Xbone won't operate without a Kinect sensor, period.
.
In their (carefully worded) statement about turning off the Kinect sensor, you may have noticed that to turn off Kinect, you have to turn the hardware off completely, so whilst the console is operating, so is the Kinect.
lp1988 11th June 2013, 17:58 Quote
Found this one round, Not sure if it is 100 percent accurate but at least it gives a good overview

http://i.imgur.com/gGUA79x.jpg
mikemaher205 11th June 2013, 20:08 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinevere
So you won't buy a PS4 unless there's an official driver for the controller to be used on a competing platform? What about an unofficial driver such as on the PS3? That not good enough for you?

Tried the un-official driver and it didn't really work with many games. Yes, I'm aware it sounds crazy, but in my view, letting PC gamers use the PS4 controller means other people like myself who prefer the shape of the PlayStation game pad will buy into Sony products. Just another little bit of market that Sony could take from Microsoft.

I am aware that to devote resources to creating a driver for PC would take resources away from more important development issues, but I'm just throwing my ideas out into the digital void of the internet... Hoping...
liratheal 11th June 2013, 23:06 Quote
I know it's not PS4 exclusive, but I am so psyched for Cyberpunk 2077.
Neogumbercules 12th June 2013, 07:31 Quote
I don't see MS putting out a marked down SKU any time soon. As already stated, the Kinect has to be plugged in in order for the machine to function at all. There's also the consideration that MS is heavily investing into their kinect ecosystem, and the only way they will be able to convince devs to go along is if they can guarantee there's a kinect in every box.

They could slash the HDD capacity but that would be such a minor savings for their BoM I don't see how it would make a difference, plus every game requires an install so they would be further inconveniencing their consumers there.

They made a $1 billion investment into their platform and have worked out massive deals with tons of content providers such as the NFL and everything else. The notion that they can change any of the deeper aspects of their system on a whim is hard to swallow. Their high-ish price can't change. I just don't see them being willing to take a gigantic loss on the hardware.

I'm not at all worried about no mandatory camera in the base PS4 SKU (I'm assuming there will be a second SKU with more stuff). Why jack up the price for an accessory that has been show to be utter garbage on the 360? Most gamers don't care about camera games and Sony isn't heavily invested in that stuff to begin with so it makes perfect sense to provide the camera as an optional accessory for those who really want it, instead of forcing it on the vast majority of people that don't give a crap. If that doesn't incentivise developers to implement camera functions... all the better. I don't want to wave my hands around like a moron to complete tasks that are faster and easier with a pad.

For $399 I get a system with no hassles, all the features I'm used to, more power, better online functionality if I choose to engage with it, and I can put the damn disc in and PLAY. That's what I want, that's what Sony is making. I'm in, take my money.

Nintendo has Mario Kart, Zelda, etc so I'm in by default there. Almost sad to say, but hey, they always make good games and I've never been dissatisfied with my Nintendo purchases.

Then I got my main PC for the games I must play on PC, namely, BF4 and other shooters.
Pie_uk 12th June 2013, 11:33 Quote
so will the xbox not use discs? as in you cant physically buy a game anymore? is it all download stuff and stored on the HDD
Shirty 12th June 2013, 11:36 Quote
http://i.imgur.com/AJS7VHe.gif

Although I hope in all this that the real winner will be AMD, because if they do things right that will have a direct knock on effect on us, the PC enthusiasts.
Otis1337 12th June 2013, 12:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirty
http://i.imgur.com/AJS7VHe.gif

Although I hope in all this that the real winner will be AMD, because if they do things right that will have a direct knock on effect on us, the PC enthusiasts.

I was thinking that, this will be amazing for AMD
LightningPete 18th June 2013, 06:40 Quote
AMD might make some money this time round. Lol
Yaka 18th June 2013, 20:26 Quote
they wont be making much, they know both ms and sony woulda gone knocking on someone elses door
erratum1 18th June 2013, 20:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pie_uk
so will the xbox not use discs? as in you cant physically buy a game anymore? is it all download stuff and stored on the HDD

Think it's still on a disk but like a pc it needs to be installed..the game won't play direct from the disk.

£349 is pretty reasonable ps4 will make a killing.
StoneyMahoney 19th June 2013, 11:47 Quote
Wow, converged specs much? I guess the Wii U is the think different alternative again. I'm sitting this generation out until I've cleared the backlog of uncompleted/untouched games on my Wii and PS3.
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