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Microsoft confirms Xbox One price and release date

Microsoft confirms Xbox One price and release date

The new XBox One will sell for £429, including one controller and the new Kinect.

Microsoft has confirmed the Xbox One release date and price at its press conference at E3.

The new console will be available in November and will cost $499USD, $499euros and £429. While the exact date wasn't specified, the release date of the new Halo is 5th November so it is likely to be before on on that date.

These prices will be higher than many people were hoping, as rumours had suggested a loss-leading price of around £250. There was also no mention of a subsidised option, with the initial cost offset by long term Xbox Live Gold subscriptions.

Microsoft also revealed some more details about the SmartGlass feature of the Xbox One, showing how the tablet/mobile phone app will allow users to start games, setup multiplayer games, view fellow player's stats and watch games clips.

Said game clips will be available instantly to all users via the console's built in DVR capability.

Also announced was a new version of the Xbox 360 that has a redesigned outer shell that fits in more with the styling of the Xbox One. Internally it is exactly the same as the existing console but now the exterior has straight sides and a matt/gloss split finish like the Xbox One.

Excited by the new Xbox One or is £429 just a bit too high?

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Blogins 10th June 2013, 19:20 Quote
Very very expensive launch price and no mention of storage capacity yet!
GuilleAcoustic 10th June 2013, 19:23 Quote
Price of additional pad ? Price of a game (console game being more expensive than their pc counterparts) ? Without me microsoft ...
Blogins 10th June 2013, 19:24 Quote
Also the new Halo IS NOT due out on 5th November as is mentioned in the article!

That baby is coming next year.
Cei 10th June 2013, 19:29 Quote
The rumours of £250 were with a subsidised subscription, rumours that were dismissed pretty quickly. £429 is at the high end of estimates.
sotu1 10th June 2013, 19:32 Quote
thats about what I expected. They're packing in a Kinect as well so a fair bit of hardware there
proxess 10th June 2013, 19:36 Quote
499 Euros IS NOT 499 USD. Nor is 429 GBP. The differences are abismal! Are you sure it's not 599 USD? Even still, it's a rip off. Also, those prices must be without VAT.

I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
TheStockBroker 10th June 2013, 19:44 Quote
Can't wait :)
Stanley Tweedle 10th June 2013, 19:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
499 Euros IS NOT 499 USD. Nor is 429 GBP. The differences are abismal! Are you sure it's not 599 USD? Even still, it's a rip off. Also, those prices must be without VAT.

I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.

It's always the same. Something costs $400 in the US and it's usually £400 in the UK.

So the question now is whether the PS4 will be even more expensive or if they'll shock everyone and price it lower than the egg box?
rollo 10th June 2013, 19:50 Quote
£429 is higher than I expected and no mension of game or pad costs could easily hit £600 for just 2 pads 2 games and console, add in your Xbox gold sub and your fast approaching £650.

All eyes on Sony now if its sub £350 they will blow them away, I expect it to be the exact same price for the record.

Also makes amazons 2 pad 2 games 1 console for £599 seem accurate enough. Wonder if that's the bargin pre order going at the moment.

Was expecting a subsidised price with rumours of sky and phone company's looking for a piece of the action. At those prices it will be a shock to many parents if they want one for Christmas.
Flibblebot 10th June 2013, 20:15 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by proxess
499 Euros IS NOT 499 USD. Nor is 429 GBP. The differences are abismal! Are you sure it's not 599 USD? Even still, it's a rip off. Also, those prices must be without VAT.

I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
At today's exchange rate, $499 = £320. Even taking into account that US prices don't include sales tax, £320+VAT is still only £385.
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Originally Posted by Stanley Tweedle
It's always the same. Something costs $400 in the US and it's usually £400 in the UK.
True. Doesn't make it right though.
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Originally Posted by Stanley Tweedle
So the question now is whether the PS4 will be even more expensive or if they'll shock everyone and price it lower than the egg box?
Frankly, £400 for a console is too much, even if it does all the singing and dancing stuff that MS says it's going to do.

MS seem to have forgotten that we're in a recession, and most families won't be able to afford that much - remember that the 360 was only £280 when it launched in the UK, and we're looking at a new console that's almost £150 more.
Snips 10th June 2013, 20:16 Quote
Amazon UK claim that XboxOne has more pre-orders registered than PSBore has.

Halo, TitanFall and KILLER INSTINCT!!!! What a launch, can't see Fony topping any of that even with a cheaper price of £300!
CrazyJoe 10th June 2013, 20:19 Quote
I just wish Sony had the balls to launch the PS4 at £300 or so, it would work out in the long run but they probably want more money sooner rather than later.
Harlequin 10th June 2013, 20:26 Quote
P3 launch price was £425 back in the day , xbox 360 was £279
faugusztin 10th June 2013, 20:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
At today's exchange rate, $499 = £320. Even taking into account that US prices don't include sales tax, £320+VAT is still only £385.

Extra tax for video games consoles ? The one PS3 avoided because it was sold as a computer because it could run Linux ?
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
MS seem to have forgotten that we're in a recession, and most families won't be able to afford that much - remember that the 360 was only £280 when it launched in the UK, and we're looking at a new console that's almost £150 more.

Even with minimal salary, you are looking at half month salary to buy XBOX One. While it hurts, it is not that much either. I love when people complain "Windows costs too much", "XBOX costs too much", "XY costs too much" - and then go out on Friday and waste similar amount of money on booze, or smoke that money on cigarettes.
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
P3 launch price was £425 back in the day , xbox 360 was £279

Different exchange rate back then as well, it was $599/€599. You don't have a luxury of that good exchange rate now.
Flibblebot 10th June 2013, 20:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
Extra tax for video games consoles?
Not extra, VAT is sales tax charged on (almost) everything in the UK.
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
Even with minimal salary, you are looking at half month salary to buy XBOX One. While it hurts, it is not that much either.
And who can afford to drop 50% of their salary on anything, let alone a console?
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
Different exchange rate back then as well, it was $599/€599. You don't have a luxury of that good exchange rate now.
The US price for Xbox360 at launch was $399 not $599. Similarly, Euro pricing was €399.
CrazyJoe 10th June 2013, 20:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
And who can afford to drop 50% of their salary on anything, let alone a console?

It's not 50% of anyone's salary, it's 1/26th of someone on a "low" salary.
faugusztin 10th June 2013, 20:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
Not extra, VAT is sales tax charged on (almost) everything in the UK.

OMG. There was an extra import tax on game consoles in EU, at least back in the time PS3 was launched (not sure if it still exists). VAT is not a sale tax, far from it; and no need to explain it to me, we have the same 20% VAT here in Slovakia as you in UK.
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
And who can afford to drop 50% of their salary on anything, let alone a console?

Put away 10% of your salary over the next 5 months ? Or 5% over the next 9 months and buy XBOX One few months late ? Don't tell me you can't save 50GBP per month (12.5GBP per week).
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
The US price for Xbox360 at launch was $399 not $599. Similarly, Euro pricing was €399.

599$/€ price was for PS3.
Harlequin 10th June 2013, 20:59 Quote
aged 18 a full time job on mimimum wags you get £10395 , and you`ll pay a slittle tax and national insurance on that (not a lot though)

so all things considered , this would cost aroud 5% of your yearly wages , or around 50% of your monthly wages...
faugusztin 10th June 2013, 21:02 Quote
Oh and by the way, there is one more thing - warranty. In US XBOX has 1 year warranty, not sure about UK, but here in Slovakia it is 2 years, which is again something which unfortunately increases the price.
Harlequin 10th June 2013, 21:08 Quote
$499 = £320 ; add 20% landing duty that's £384

then add 20% VAT that's £460...

although wholesale wont be that price , you can see where the parity in pricing comes from.
dipzy 10th June 2013, 21:32 Quote
Pretty expensive still, will be interesting to see what the PS4 comes in at, if they announce its price that is but i'd expect it will be around the same as xbox one or more
liratheal 10th June 2013, 21:36 Quote
Haha.

No.

That's not happening at launch. Maybe when it's 300.
faugusztin 10th June 2013, 21:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by dipzy
Pretty expensive still, will be interesting to see what the PS4 comes in at, if they announce its price that is but i'd expect it will be around the same as xbox one or more

PS4 has a more expensive APU, more expensive RAM; X1 has Kinnect... I don't see how could PS4 be cheaper than XBOX One.
Alecto 10th June 2013, 21:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by liratheal
Haha.

No.

That's not happening at launch. Maybe when it's 300.

For me it's just Haha, No, Never. Greedy M$. When I have next 500 EUR to blow on first world problems it will be to upgrade my computer (motherboard, CPU and RAM).
faugusztin 10th June 2013, 21:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Alecto
Greedy M$.

Or just not sold at loss.
sandys 10th June 2013, 21:57 Quote
For the number of years of gaming you'll get it'll break down to £50/yr for the hardware, not too bad.

Wouldn't surprise me if PS4 is more, what was it, £425 ps3 launch price add ~7 years inflation @ ~3% you end up with over 520quid.
greigaitken 10th June 2013, 22:12 Quote
when 360 launched, you needed nvidia 780gtx to get same graphics performance so about £800 - £1k pc
i was amazed at the hardware bargain it was (games cost aside etc blah)
I imagine, you'll still need about £800 - £1k pc for same effect (not same hardware, same fps at same res)
so it's still a hardware bargain (unless you already have that £1k pc).
If it's upgrade time, and you only got £500 - how much do you need that mouse?
ResCyn 10th June 2013, 22:59 Quote
Don't care about the price. I'm still not willing to have MS ram a Kinnect up my arse whilst emptying my wallet & kerb stomping my consumer rights - and all the while telling me I like it. I can't say I won't get one down the line at some point but there's no way in hell I'm spending several thousand in software with them again.
leexgx 10th June 2013, 23:14 Quote
in the EU all electronic goods come with 2 years now (even thought apple do not tell you that) your lucky in the USA if it has more 90days parts defect/cover

not that xbox interests much any way
l3v1ck 11th June 2013, 03:11 Quote
It'll be interesting to see a full comparison between the hardware of the Xbox One and the new Playstation.
People might pay more for the Xbox if it has better hardware given that it should have a ten year life cycle. What's an extra £100 over ten years for something better? (Assuming it is better)
DbD 11th June 2013, 09:28 Quote
Kinect is a huge plus for the xbox, the OS is also bound to be a bit better but the negatives are ramping up too:
-slower hardware (graphics won't be quite as pretty).
-higher price.
-dodgy DRM and used game restrictions.

If you just want an old fashioned console looking more and more like the PS3 is the best choice.
Sp! 11th June 2013, 10:02 Quote
In the UK we always get stiched up on the cost compared to the US, like people have said before it's about £50 more expensive after to take into account VAT and exchange rates. But also in the EU it has to come with a 2 year warranty which I don't think is the case in the US so all in all the price is not unreasonably different.

And I think if your compalining about the price your missing the point. It will get cheaper, and if you can't afford it now your not the target market. MS (or Sony) could care less about you if you save up all your money to buy the console and a game and then can't afford to buy more stuff and pay for subscritions. At the launch of a console cycle your selling to the people who can spend the most money and therefore could care less if its £349, or £429.
Phil Rhodes 11th June 2013, 10:09 Quote
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-slower hardware (graphics won't be quite as pretty).

If they take the approach they have for PC ports of console games over the last few years, there'll be a lowest-common-denominator effect at play, and what you'll actually get is the PS4 not quite being used to its fullest potential.

Does seem a little steep, though. I said the same about the PS3, which was similarly-priced, and if I recall suffered quite badly as a result.
faugusztin 11th June 2013, 11:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Does seem a little steep, though. I said the same about the PS3, which was similarly-priced, and if I recall suffered quite badly as a result.

Again, the only country where XBOX One launch price is similar to PS3 launch price (not taking inflation into account) is UK, because you had a very different exchange rate back then - 1.47€ for £1 back in 2007; it is 1.17€ for £1 now. Everywhere else launch price XBOX One is 100$/€ cheaper than the PS3 launch price. With the exchange rate similar to the one in 2007 your XBOX One price would be £339.45, compared to the launch price of XBOX 360 at £279.99.
rollo 11th June 2013, 11:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
PS4 has a more expensive APU, more expensive RAM; X1 has Kinnect... I don't see how could PS4 be cheaper than XBOX One.

PS4 is sub £350 so its £80 cheaper

Using a more expensive APU and more expensive RAM.
faugusztin 11th June 2013, 11:40 Quote
Yes, they somehow managed it, but you should not forget to add the price of the Eye to PS4 price for consoles to be comparable, and then you probably reach £400 with PS4 too.

Still, i am not sure if Sony is not selling it at loss, plus it is now same as XBOX on the multiplayer side - paid subscription needed for multiplayer.

PS: Not like i am going to buy either of these, i have yet to see a feature or game which would offset the price and bad usability of controllers compared to the keyboard+mouse combo.
Stanley Tweedle 11th June 2013, 11:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
Yes, they somehow managed it, but you should not forget to add the price of the Eye to PS4 price for consoles to be comparable, and then you probably reach £400 with PS4 too.

Still, i am not sure if Sony is not selling it at loss, plus it is now same as XBOX on the multiplayer side - paid subscription needed for multiplayer.

PS: Not like i am going to buy either of these, i have yet to see a feature or game which would offset the price and bad usability of controllers compared to the keyboard+mouse combo.

"PS: Not like i am going to buy either of these, i have yet to see a feature or game which would offset the price and bad usability of controllers compared to the keyboard+mouse combo" - Me same. I think Kinect HD is potentially amazing if used to it's full potential but otherwise I hate the controllers these consoles use. OK for some games not but FPS.
Blackshark 11th June 2013, 16:32 Quote
Add on the extra game pad and 1 game and you are looking at almost 600 GBP for a console that will monitor everything you say and do and return 'some data' to MS. Nice.

Or I can pay for a device that is designed for gamers....
Pie_uk 11th June 2013, 18:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by faugusztin
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Does seem a little steep, though. I said the same about the PS3, which was similarly-priced, and if I recall suffered quite badly as a result.

Again, the only country where XBOX One launch price is similar to PS3 launch price (not taking inflation into account) is UK, because you had a very different exchange rate back then - 1.47€ for £1 back in 2007; it is 1.17€ for £1 now. Everywhere else launch price XBOX One is 100$/€ cheaper than the PS3 launch price. With the exchange rate similar to the one in 2007 your XBOX One price would be £339.45, compared to the launch price of XBOX 360 at £279.99.

thought the 360 originally cost £360 at least thats what i remember paying
faugusztin 11th June 2013, 19:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pie_uk
thought the 360 originally cost £360 at least thats what i remember paying

Well, i can go only by the numbers on Wikipedia. If it was £360 back then, with current exchange rate would be £452.30. As i said, UK got a bit distorted view on the console prices, because at previous launch you were on your economic high with a "good" EUR/GBP exchange rate.
RichCreedy 13th June 2013, 09:59 Quote
also don't forget, import tax has to be paid on these consoles, as they aren't made in the uk. this all adds up, i'm not defending the high price, but all these things have to be considered when pricing things up.
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 10:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by RichCreedy
also don't forget, import tax has to be paid on these consoles, as they aren't made in the uk. this all adds up, i'm not defending the high price, but all these things have to be considered when pricing things up.

The BBC did an article on it, it's just tax, no import charges.
Harlequin 13th June 2013, 10:13 Quote
biggest crock of **** ever - you try sending a laptop from the USA to the UK and not getting a huge ass customs bill on it.
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 10:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
biggest crock of **** ever - you try sending a laptop from the USA to the UK and not getting a huge ass customs bill on it.

You'll get tax + the charge for the delivery company paying that tax for you which is the annoying bit, UPS charge about 12 quid for this.

There's been no import duty on laptops since 2005.
Harlequin 13th June 2013, 10:29 Quote
just called HMRC (0300 200 3700) and they said I`ll be charged £80 from them in import duty on a £400 laptop. so BBC are very very wrong
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 10:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
just called HMRC (0300 200 3700) and they said I`ll be charged £80 from them in import duty on a £400 laptop. so BBC are very very wrong

20% of £400 is £80. That's what I said. You pay the tax and that's it (apart from the delivery company charging you for paying the tax upfront).

It's not duty, it's simply paying the VAT.

Other products get charged VAT + import duty, that's when the costs really start mounting up.
faugusztin 13th June 2013, 10:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
just called HMRC (0300 200 3700) and they said I`ll be charged £80 from them in import duty on a £400 laptop. so BBC are very very wrong

"Import duty" you pay to customs includes VAT. And guess what is that £80 ? Your 20% VAT :
£400 * 20% VAT = £80
Harlequin 13th June 2013, 11:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by CrazyJoe
20% of £400 is £80. That's what I said. You pay the tax and that's it (apart from the delivery company charging you for paying the tax upfront).

It's not duty, it's simply paying the VAT.

Other products get charged VAT + import duty, that's when the costs really start mounting up.

you said tax , HMRC used the term import duty. call them , please and ask.
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 11:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
you said tax , HMRC used the term import duty. call them , please and ask.

Why would I call them? I know the charges, you don't.

You pay 20% plus the delivery company charge.

simples
Harlequin 13th June 2013, 11:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by CrazyJoe
Why would I call them? I know the charges, you don't.

You pay 20% plus the delivery company charge.

simples

call them and they will correct you , as they are the ones who make the rules. you call it tax they do not. simples.
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 11:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
call them and they will correct you , as they are the ones who make the rules. you call it tax they do not. simples.

Just... stop.

You said the BBC article was wrong, it's not.

Why are you even phoning them? It's all on their website.

HMRC call it Import VAT, guess what the T stands for?

http://gyazo.com/a0fb97e28d399bd3b0db1a92156748e2.png
faugusztin 13th June 2013, 11:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
you said tax , HMRC used the term import duty. call them , please and ask.

Import duty contains customs duty and import VAT :
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/tax-and-duty.htm

100% of import duty in your case is the import VAT (Value added tax).
Harlequin 13th June 2013, 11:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by CrazyJoe
Just... stop.

You said the BBC article was wrong, it's not.

Why are you even phoning them? It's all on their website.

HMRC call it Import VAT, guess what the T stands for?

http://gyazo.com/a0fb97e28d399bd3b0db1a92156748e2.png

look at the poster above who has linked the HMRC website


just top will you now.
CrazyJoe 13th June 2013, 12:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
look at the poster above who has linked the HMRC website


just top will you now.

Did you even read the image? It's from the same link.

Anyway, this is going nowhere.
dombooth 14th June 2013, 11:24 Quote
Far too expensive for what it is.

Dom
Fizzban 14th June 2013, 18:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
biggest crock of **** ever - you try sending a laptop from the USA to the UK and not getting a huge ass customs bill on it.

Send it as a gift ;)
technogiant 16th June 2013, 08:13 Quote
Not sure the pricing is such a huge issue both consoles xbo at £429 and ps4 at £349 are in the same ball park and roughly what you'd be expecting to pay and not bad considering the long lifecycle.

Unwashed joe public will see the the £80 extra for the xbo as worthwhile for the slick media functionality and of course their whining brat progeny most have whom had an xbox last cycle will be screaming uninformed fanboy support for xbo......so in all there will not be a white wash win for Sony.

Having said that PS4 will be the choice for the discerning purchaser.
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