Nintendo: 'Hardcore gamers will accept Wii U'
Nintendo is adamant that hardcore gamers will accept the Wii U and has hyped HD capabilities.
'Wii was not accepted by core gamers because they did not want to abandon their preferred control approach,' said Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata.
'Additionally, Wii did not use HD because HD cost performance at the time was low. Wii U makes it easier to use conventional controls. Also, the Wii U controller is not as big or heavy as it looks.'
Nintendo's share price dropped to a five year low following investor disappointment in Nintendo's Wii U unveiling, but the company has hit back by saying that user reaction has been very positive.
'The majority of the overseas media offered congratulations,' said Satoru Iwata. 'The reaction differed greatly between those who covered the product at the show and those who just covered it online. In other words, the point is how Nintendo can convey the value of the product.'
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"Thank you for your enthusiasm. We promised an update, so here it is. We never say never, but we can confirm that there are no plans to bring these three games to the Americas at this time. Thanks so much for your passion, and for being such great fans!"
All this talk of getting back to the hardcore when they can't even localise a couple of games thousands of people have pestered them about. They seem to think that telling gamers what they want (more Mario!) instead of giving them what they ask for is treating fans with respect. Piss off Nintendo, 3rd party publishers have been outshining you for years.
The only time I use a Wii is at a LAN where we play 8 player bomberman for a while, that can he hilarious but that is it for the Wii and me. I don't see how the Wiiewe will change that.
Hardcore gamers don't play on consoles.
Anyway, this console looks promising and inovative. I really don't understand why people see it so negatively.
Even within the gaming community determining who or what constitutes a "hardcore gamer" is a much debated subject so it's unlikely that Nintendo are going to have a clue as to what it is.
I've said it before, Nintendo branded themselves the kings of casual gaming with the Wii which destroyed them as a serious platform.
"Imma hardcore, and I use a Wii."
I didn't think so either.
I accept consoles - for sport and racing games (and Kinnect). The rest is a joke. First person shooter or realtime strategy on console ? Don't make me laugh. I don't care for the platform itself, but when the whole genre on a platform has autoaim built in because otherwise you wouldn't be able to shoot anyone in FPS, then there is something wrong with it and you cannot label it "hardcore" anymore.
Thats just ridiculous. The fact that there's some element of aim-assist in FPS games on consoles (because of the nature of the analogue sticks) doesn't mean there's no skill in shooting or that it makes the experience any less "hardcore". There's still a huge spectrum of people with terrible aim, and others with pinpoint accuracy; ie just like the pc with a keyboard and mouse. The controller works fine, I use one everyday and have countless hours spent on Cod on Live to know that it's a good experience if you play with the right people and in the right lobbies. FPS games can run absolutely fine on consoles with a controller, whether thats the single player or multiplayer
But I dont want to start a flame-war, so I was just saying that its not true that they're such a bad platform for playing FPS games
And yeah I'm tired of seeing Bit-Tech relentlessly posting this kind of non-news.
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You could Wii all over it...
I would guess that this one will do the same.
Might even be slightly better, as the Wii was really only any good when there was a group of people to play with as most of the games were multiplayer oriented. You would hope that the majority of the games for the Wii U would be single player.
despite all the groans, I thought that was funny. Actually, I guess the groans could just be due to it being really good Wii
The Wii racked up massive hardware sales, but I bet most are gathering dust. Mine isn't even plugged in...
That's kinda exactly what it means tbh.
FPS: PC > Console
RTS: PC > Console
RPG: PC > Console
MMO: PC > Console
...and so on, except:
Sports, racing, platformers and anything involving dancing etc, which you can keep.
Sorry :)
So is ours.
My sister bought one, but has barely used it.
It was a fad.
End of discussion of so call "Hardcore".
No it just means they use different input devices which allow you to control your online character. Yes you get better resolutions etc gaming on a PC, but that's not what I was referring to.
Use bigger hands in the pictures then!
The Wii U reminds me of that lady in Kung Pow.
something sorely missed from consoles, why have none of them caught onto this peripheral yet?
PCI-E is a nice and ambiguous teaser though ...
Nail on the head! +1
I will not be buying a wii u. I had a wii and never really played on it. I'm not a big fan of Nintendo titles so what does the wii u give me that my PS3 and xbox 360 don't? Of the 3 the wii has the worse motion controls and the worst gamepads. A stupid big (yes it is big, I don't care what nintendo say - it's bigger than any other controller I hold in my hands by a good margin) controller is not going to make me buy a wii u as it doesn't enhance my games at all. They say I can look at the controller screen for some content to save space on my TV - I can only look at one at a time, so why not pop-up the content on the controller to the TV?
I, like many gamers, was burned with the Wii and the Wii U has nothing compelling to make me buy one. It has no USP other than a big controller that will annoy me more than anything else - and I would have to have one if I got a Wii U. The controller will be a waste of money when buying the console, and I don't think will be used well by any games, and if it is used well it means I may be *forced* to use the stupid thing when gaming in single player.
You say different, I hear inferior.
I play games on my PC every 2-3 days or so. I'd say he's more of a hardcore gamer tbh.
Well I have a momo steering wheel with Forcefeedback and pedals and its awesome top play on PC like that So you have to add:
Racing PC > Console
And do not forget:
Flight sim PC > Console
Console controlers suck , i will never ever buy a console I had one in 1977 it was called Pong and later I had a Atari 2600 console.
But once I got a computer with a mouse and keyboard (Atari ST) I never looked back...
Everyone laughed when Nintendo brought out the Wii and everyone said they would go under like Sega. Then they freaking dominated the console sales. I don't think people should be dismissing the Wii U at this early a stage. In all honesty, the concept demo still leaves me wondering what the heck they will do with the Umote, but I'll reserve judgement until I see something thats actually reviewable.
I will fully admit, the Wii's main downfall has been lack of games. After everyone got tired of Wii sports, and then the Hardcore Nintendo Gamers completed Mario Galaxy and Zelda Twilight Princess for the second time, there wasn't a lot left, besides a little Mario Kart and Smash Bros. The last Wii game I bought was Mario Galaxy, almost two years ago. That is a major fail, BUT: the Wii U stands to rectify that. How? Cross platform ports. Provided its not unusually difficult to port, since Wii U supports superior hardware and full HD, they will be able to port all the best games that the other consoles have had exclusive use of for the last 5 years. No longer will Nintendo fans have to buy another console to get the larger, shinier games. Will my father-in-law be trading in his Wii for a Wii U? NO. He got it for Wii sports and the balance board and thats all he, or many, wanted it for; he never intended to buy any other games. So the Wii U will not sell as much, I'll guarantee that, but it will still dominate, and when the 720 or ps4 comes they will sell LESS because Nintendo gamers no longer will need a second console.
Note, there is something called the Hardcore Nintendo Gamer. We just don't like the other consoles. When the Wii ran out of new games worth buying and the 360 dropped to 100$ at walmart, I grabbed a 360. I played it a couple times, then it sat there. I realized all the good games were already available on pc. Bioshock, Portal, Orange Box, etc. all those I already had on the PC, so what did I need the 360 for? As far as 360 exclusive titles... they just weren't meant for Nintendo Gamers. We're a different breed and those consoles just don't do it for us. My 360 got donated to the local childrens hospital, hopefully they can get a Kinect for it and play the new Sesame street game previewed at E3 *rolls eyes*
So, I don't think there is such a thing as a Hardcore Gamer. There's Hardcore Nintendo Gamers, Hardcore PC Gamers, Hardcore Xbox Gamers, and they are all very different types of people.
That's basically exactly what it means....
Well racing I have a good steering wheel, so I'd rather be playing something like Shift 2 Unleashed on my PC than anything else. And then platforms, I played Trine on the PC and it was a LOT better on PC than it was on the ps3, so include racers and platformers on the PC too.
Dancing games yeah whatever ;p But tbh, I have a 360 controller on my PC so I get the best of both worlds anyway, consoles don't. Consoles are entry level gaming on the cheap. They are great for that, but it's not for hardcore gaming.
Hardcore is more a measure of how often you play, and wether you play a title for more than 5 hours before moving on to the next one.
/rant.start
To further clarify, I feel PC and the xbox are the primary "hardcore" platforms, with PS3 being enthusiast, and nintendo being for the casual.
This all comes down to the type of games available to each platform as well as how the controllers are optimised for certain styles of play. Imagine WoW on the wii... That would be interesting..
It also is related to the size of the community generated by it. Xbox is huge when it comes to YouTube stuff (mostly cod yes, but still). PC has a large community across a lot of games. You'll find that there's a lot of 'clans/guilds' on the PC. Again mainly on the FPS and MMORPG genres.
Someone who dedicates a lot of time to gaming, and bases part/all of their social life through games is hardcore. The kid who sits at home and plays Mario/Zelda 24/7 on his own isnt hardcore, he's just sad.. Lol..
The fact that nintendo are trying to dub the Wii U as a hardcore platform is a bit flimsy, how many games are going to be as community oriented as cod/battlefield or various mmorpgs? TBH it's the ONLINE multiplayer that makes a game/platform hardcore.
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"Hardcore gamers will accept the WiiU" as a casual platform :D
Ms. PACMAN,Frogger,Pacmania,Donkey Kong,Dig dug,etc... NOW THOSE ARE GOOD GAMES!!