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Mass Effect 3 will have gay relationships

Mass Effect 3 will have gay relationships

If you so choose, you can out Commander Shepard in the forthcoming Mass Effect 3.

Posse of gaming luminaries ‘Rock, Paper, Shotgun’ claims (via GayGamer) that the eagerly anticipated Mass Effect 3 is set to feature ‘same-sex romances for both female and male Commander Shepards.’ This move is likely to cause plenty of controversy, especially after the recent ructions over the girl-on-Asari action of the previous two games.

Previously Bioware, the developer of the Mass Effect series, hasn’t included gay romances stories for male Commander Shepard characters. However, there was a romance option for female Shepard characters and the distinctly female mono-gender alien race the Asari.

Bioware has said that gay male romances were left out of the previous two games to give the game a ‘PG-13 movie’ feel and that in Mass Effect 2 ‘we kinda pulled back and looked at where we had to draw the line in terms of how much content we make. How much can we support?

Those quotes are attributed to the same Casey Hudson (via Destructoid) that tweeted the news that at least one male gay relationship will be possible in Mass Effect 3.

RPS also reports that PC Gamer has teased some other news from Bioware on the forthcoming (but delayed until ‘Q1 2012’) game. We’ll get to meet everyone from the first two games (or at least those that survived), and ‘Tali, Garrus, Liara, Ashley or Kaiden and a new character called James Vega are confirmed as potential party members.

RPS also says that if you had a romance with two different characters in the two games, they’ll know about it in Mass Effect 3. Combat is also said to be ‘”quite different,” with an emphasis on special abilities such as melee-focused characters’ and that ‘there will be big robots piloted by small men’ which sounds frankly odd. Now that we’ve whipped up your Mass Effect 3 interest, here’s the slightly disappointing trailer so you can get back to whatever it was you were meant to be doing:


Before you go though, let us know whether you approve of reported equality in same-sex romances, and just how much you’re looking forward to the game even if you never opt for that storyline, let us know in the forum.

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Unknownsock 16th May 2011, 14:04 Quote
Waste of dev time imo.

Either do it right or not at all, which I don't think they do.
Personally I think witcher did it in a better way. Done in a completely different manner but not too much in your face and tacky.
mighty_pirate 16th May 2011, 14:12 Quote
"RPS also says that if you had a romance with two different characters in the two games, they’ll know about it in Mass Effect 3"

Oops. That might spell bad news in my savegame. My Shepherd flirted the crap out fo Williams before leaving her to die. Then slept with Jack, Tali & Miranda & retired to his cabin for some sexy dancing from Yeoman Kelly.
... Thought it was a little overly convenient that nobody got cross with my "hump & dump" ways. Could make teambuilding in ME3 a bit awkward.
Parge 16th May 2011, 14:17 Quote
Gay porn? YES PLEASE!

..... hang on, can other people see my comments on here?
Spreadie 16th May 2011, 14:20 Quote
ISTR that ME & ME2 already had gay relationships - if you play as a female.
Instagib 16th May 2011, 14:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
ISTR that ME & ME2 already had gay relationships - if you play as a female.

Ah yes, but that gay doesn't count. Apparently.
AcidJiles 16th May 2011, 14:37 Quote
What about homosexual relations is different enough that would cause it not to give the "game a ‘PG-13 movie’ feel"?

Does homosexuality get your movie/game etc a higher rating?
Baz 16th May 2011, 14:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spreadie
ISTR that ME & ME2 already had gay relationships - if you play as a female.

Ah ha, but Asari are mono-sexual (despite looking like sexy babes), so that doesn't technically count.

Technically.
Baz 16th May 2011, 14:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by AcidJiles
What about homosexual relations is different enough that would cause it not to give the "game a ‘PG-13 movie’ feel"?

Does homosexuality get your movie/game etc a higher rating?

It might do in the USA; it's sure to rile up Fox News at least for some free publicity!
Spreadie 16th May 2011, 14:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
Ah ha, but Asari are mono-sexual (despite looking like sexy babes), so that doesn't technically count.

Technically.

OK, well that covers Mass Effect. What about Mass Effect 2? :p:)
Jehla 16th May 2011, 15:01 Quote
Horray, now I can spend the game fending off the males too... Still, I just hope legion does not try it on.
SMIFFYDUDE 16th May 2011, 15:16 Quote
I spent ME2 minge teasing the crew then not going with any of them. Seriously, Shepard just came across as a sex pest in ME2.
Pete J 16th May 2011, 15:16 Quote
Excellent! I look forward to telling some dude that I just don't swing that way - after all, it seems you have to take the flirty options in ME and ME2 otherwise you end up earning renegade points. I always end up with Ash and Liara bickering in ME and someone getting irate in ME2.

I wonder what the gay dude's going to be like - and will he proposition Mordin?
SMIFFYDUDE 16th May 2011, 15:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pete J
I wonder what the gay dude's going to be like - and will he proposition Mordin?

I hope not, he died in my game. I wonder what necrophilia will do to an age rating?
b0ng0 16th May 2011, 15:31 Quote
I thought the Asari were essentially shemales / asexual in which case you could have a hom relationship from the very first game no matter what gender you played.

It's political correctness gone maaaaaad (said in an Alan Partridge-esq voice).
sotu1 16th May 2011, 16:12 Quote
I never got laid in ME 2...got close...but still a virgin...wait are we talking real life here?

IMO, go gay sure why not. Make sure it works and isn't forced though. Equality yes, politically correct for the sake of it...is another story.
sotu1 16th May 2011, 16:13 Quote
Ohhh.....I can totally see Male Shep as the gay gamer's gay icon. And actually, it works!
Tangster 16th May 2011, 16:16 Quote
What the hell, I'll play it though for a laugh anyway.
Centy-face 16th May 2011, 16:38 Quote
I yearn for a time when this isn't actually news and no one will be angry/surprised that something homosexual exists in a game. Statistically 10% of NPCs you meet would be gay but because it's not integral to the story we never know but if as in Mass Effect romance enters into the story it's only right that it's how the player wants it to be.

Do I say good on Bioware for doing this or do I shame every other developer with equal opportunity to do this but haven't? I just hope they are including it for the right reasons rather than as Baz suggested they are trying to wind up Fox news for some free advertising.
misterd77 16th May 2011, 16:43 Quote
trailer v news, watch the trailer on this page, at then end of the clip, commentary says "if shephard doesnt bring help soon, there wont be an earth left to save", now ask yerself.....what possibly could make shepherd late..!...a ymca hostel ?
alf- 16th May 2011, 16:44 Quote
Shepard is such a sex pest,

"chicks dig gay dudes"
Tangster 16th May 2011, 16:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by Centy-face
I yearn for a time when this isn't actually news and no one will be angry/surprised that something homosexual exists in a game. Statistically 10% of NPCs you meet would be gay but because it's not integral to the story we never know but if as in Mass Effect romance enters into the story it's only right that it's how the player wants it to be.

Do I say good on Bioware for doing this or do I shame every other developer with equal opportunity to do this but haven't? I just hope they are including it for the right reasons rather than as Baz suggested they are trying to wind up Fox news for some free advertising.

If it's Fox, I would be surprised if they posted a picture of COD instead of Mass effect.
Canon 16th May 2011, 16:53 Quote
http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/b86247a0_c485_5c430.jpg

So, what i'm wandering is..who's 'on top'?
Pete J 16th May 2011, 17:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Canon
So, what i'm wandering is..who's 'on top'?

Depends if you max out your Paragon or Renegade meters ;).
Canon 16th May 2011, 17:01 Quote
Now THAT'S a good reason to replay.
thehippoz 16th May 2011, 17:01 Quote
oh god.. now I have to worry about getting buttsecked while I nap

no thanks
leveller 16th May 2011, 17:20 Quote
This isn't for me. Will there be an option to turn it hetro?
Xir 16th May 2011, 17:36 Quote
ah! Now about those drivers for a "Force Feedback Joystick" :o
tad2008 16th May 2011, 17:52 Quote
I guess this new PC James Vega is going to be the gay one then...
Neogumbercules 16th May 2011, 18:25 Quote
I thought I read somewhere in the game, or perhaps in a conversation in ME1, that the Asari appear to the person the way the person subconsciously perceives them. Or am I just pulling that out of my ass?
SMIFFYDUDE 16th May 2011, 18:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
I thought I read somewhere in the game, or perhaps in a conversation in ME1, that the Asari appear to the person the way the person subconsciously perceives them. Or am I just pulling that out of my ass?

I don't know, but you'll be pulling somthing out of shepards when you play ME3.
Canon 16th May 2011, 18:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
I thought I read somewhere in the game, or perhaps in a conversation in ME1, that the Asari appear to the person the way the person subconsciously perceives them. Or am I just pulling that out of my ass?

Don't remember this. Still, it beats pulling Shepard out of your...oh there's my coat.

edit: ninja'd lol, I KNEW I wasn't alone.
SMIFFYDUDE 16th May 2011, 18:35 Quote
HAHA

sick minds think alike
Apoptosis 16th May 2011, 19:59 Quote
Great to see gamers being able to talk about homosexuality without adolescent lesbo-drooling or inane buttsex jokes
SMIFFYDUDE 16th May 2011, 20:12 Quote
Lighten up Peter Tatchell
dave99 16th May 2011, 20:32 Quote
Doo dee doo, do do de do de do do. Young man, there's no need to be down I say young man....

It's political correctness gone mad. Mad I tells ya!
63jax 16th May 2011, 21:06 Quote
horrible, period
VipersGratitude 16th May 2011, 21:09 Quote
I'll be naming my character Matthew
Helenius 16th May 2011, 21:22 Quote
Nothing new... Dragon Age 2 also had gay relationships.
specofdust 16th May 2011, 21:28 Quote
When your gameplay is boring, and your storyline is rehashed sci-fi that people were reading 60 years ago, I suppose you can always resort to the old "sex sells" thing.
Pete J 16th May 2011, 21:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Apoptosis
Winge
Or maybe we're not actually bothered by anyone's sexual orientation and are just having some fun.
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Originally Posted by VipersGratitude
I'll be naming my character Matthew
Dude, not cool.
Kiytan 16th May 2011, 21:44 Quote
I'm against it on the basis that in ME1+2 shep shows no signs of being gay at all (I think the whole having relationships with women is a fairly big point against that).
Canon 16th May 2011, 21:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by VipersGratitude
I'll be naming my character Matthew

What the hell man.
K.I.T.T. 16th May 2011, 22:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by leveller
This isn't for me. Will there be an option to turn it hetro?
Who knows.... but this real life thing gotta be an option to turn it heterosexual only too, right? *facepalm*

...in the end I'm of the opinion that if a game involves something such as relationships in it's story line then the player should be able to play it out how they want if it be a homosexual one in whichever direction then it should be as possible as a heterosexual one. So i say, shame on other developers for not being as open minded and encompassing.
jimmyjj 17th May 2011, 00:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by VipersGratitude
I'll be naming my character Matthew

Not funny, you're a wrong 'un.
Showerhead 17th May 2011, 01:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kiytan
I'm against it on the basis that in ME1+2 shep shows no signs of being gay at all (I think the whole having relationships with women is a fairly big point against that).
Unless you were to have played through the first two games without getting into a relationship makes perfect sense then.
Pete J 17th May 2011, 02:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Showerhead
Unless you were to have played through the first two games without getting into a relationship makes perfect sense then.
Exactly. It'll take you about 120 hours to do though (assuming you skip most of the dialogue)!
Malvolio 17th May 2011, 02:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by VipersGratitude
I'll be naming my character Matthew

Rather than quoting those that don't understand and show their misconceptions as to what your implying, I felt it easier just to quote you and state what I interpret your intentions as: in memory of a horrible tragedy, showing how far we've come as a society. If we can have games that feature rather poignantly homosexual relationships (particularly those between to male-gendered people) then we've come quite a long ways from torturing and killing an adolescent who only lived according to who he was. Using his name and memory in such a way as this is a strong testament to where we should be going as a society, and is a sign that we are headed there as we speak.

I applaud such an action, and condemn those unwilling to understand the reasoning behind your decision.
Canon 17th May 2011, 03:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Malvolio
Rather than quoting those that don't understand and show their misconceptions as to what your implying, I felt it easier just to quote you and state what I interpret your intentions as: in memory of a horrible tragedy, showing how far we've come as a society. If we can have games that feature rather poignantly homosexual relationships (particularly those between to male-gendered people) then we've come quite a long ways from torturing and killing an adolescent who only lived according to who he was. Using his name and memory in such a way as this is a strong testament to where we should be going as a society, and is a sign that we are headed there as we speak.

I applaud such an action, and condemn those unwilling to understand the reasoning behind your decision.

Regardless of intention, it is still not in good taste.
Pete J 17th May 2011, 03:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Malvolio
..I applaud such an action, and condemn those unwilling to understand the reasoning behind your decision.
I would like to think that you're right but only VipersGratitude knows what he was initially up to: let's hope he meant what you think he meant.
popcornuk1983 17th May 2011, 03:20 Quote
Why is it when it's a gay male character, some people seem to get their panties in a bunch? I've looked at forum posts across a few gaming websites on this story and some of the comments are very similar and depressing. "not for me", "can I turn it off?", "Political Correctness gone mad". I've even seen a few who said it's disgusting and they're not going to buy it.

Wait, wtf? No one was bothering when it was female shep lesing off with someone (I know the asari are mono sexual or whatever but come on they look like hot women).

If you don't want to play gay, then don't! It's not as if bioware are going to force your character down that route. They're simply giving what all gamers want (straight or gay), more choice.
Woodspoon 17th May 2011, 03:54 Quote
It might be ok in real life but I dont play games to be in real life, do not want.
Zinfandel 17th May 2011, 04:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Centy-face
I yearn for a time when this isn't actually news and no one will be angry/surprised that something homosexual exists in a game. Statistically 10% of NPCs you meet would be gay but because it's not integral to the story we never know but if as in Mass Effect romance enters into the story it's only right that it's how the player wants it to be.

Do I say good on Bioware for doing this or do I shame every other developer with equal opportunity to do this but haven't? I just hope they are including it for the right reasons rather than as Baz suggested they are trying to wind up Fox news for some free advertising.

Couldn't agree more, this isn't news, who gives a ****.


70 years ago today.

"New coin slot arcade game to feature black man!"
liratheal 17th May 2011, 10:18 Quote
Cool.

I still don't give a rats, as I am only interested in Tali. Especially as Williams is deader than a dead thing in my ME realm.
adidan 17th May 2011, 10:25 Quote
There were alot of opportunities for gay relationships in DAO and DAO2.

I always went for the fit women pixels and have no problem with it, I just was surprised at how many of the male characters wanted a gay relationship.

It seems like in RPGs the standard sexual preference is bisexual. :)
Pete J 17th May 2011, 12:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by liratheal
I still don't give a rats, as I am only interested in Tali.
It's funny how many people actually wanted to get with Tali in the original (myself included).
x5pilot 17th May 2011, 12:32 Quote
How about a bit of threesome action??
MFF anyone?!
Spreadie 17th May 2011, 13:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pete J
It's funny how many people actually wanted to get with Tali in the original (myself included).

Why? She never showed her face, so she was obviously a munter.
azrael- 17th May 2011, 13:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kiytan
I'm against it on the basis that in ME1+2 shep shows no signs of being gay at all (I think the whole having relationships with women is a fairly big point against that).
He might not have been gay in ME1 & 2, but I'm sure he can learn... :p
thil 17th May 2011, 13:55 Quote
Meh, Obsidian's done this before and done it better. Although Obsidian did it in RPGs...
VipersGratitude 17th May 2011, 14:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pete J
I would like to think that you're right but only VipersGratitude knows what he was initially up to: let's hope he meant what you think he meant.

Malvolio more or less summed it up. I was going to write more. I was going to qualify that statement adding that perhaps, if this is what the designers had intended all along, the naming of Shepard probably wasn't a happy accident.

But I didn't write more. I didn't preach, figuring that I could make a more powerful point by omitting an explanation. My guess was that by leaving it ambiguous I would be interpreted as following the zeitgeist of the thread - And that I was the one who had pushed "the joke" too far...

To give those just "having a laugh" with it something to consider.
Bauul 17th May 2011, 14:16 Quote
Simple, just introduce a male version as the Asari and voila - gay sex without being gay!

Personally I was only ever for Liara T'Soni. Still need to get the DLC to complete the romance option in ME2 actually.
Scroome 17th May 2011, 15:28 Quote
Of the few games that actually manage to handle choice of sexual preference well, the Fable series comes to mind. Since the beggining of the series players have been able to choose to settle with the guy or gal of their choosing. Hey, if they didn't fancy settling down then they could just have fun with as many people as you wanted (just remember to wear protection). They're on to three games now, and from what I can tell there hasn't been as much commenting on their sexual preference choices as Mass Effect 3 has had so far.

I would also point out that choosing whether to have sex in Mass Effect regardless of whether it being a man or a woman is quite trivial to the overall game experience. In fable relationships meant gifts and sub stories. You don't see someone in Mass effect offering new armour for a quicky. At least it wasn't In my experience.....
leveller 17th May 2011, 15:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Scroome
In fable relationships meant gifts and sub stories. You don't see someone in Mass effect offering new armour for a quicky. At least it wasn't In my experience.....

It would make grinding for stuff a little more interesting ...

;)
Kiytan 17th May 2011, 15:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Showerhead
Unless you were to have played through the first two games without getting into a relationship makes perfect sense then.

I suppose it depends who you can get into a relationship with. I was presuming there was an option to romance existing characters (kaiden, garrus maybe?) in which case it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, if it's only with new characters however, that fits fine.
Scroome 17th May 2011, 16:15 Quote
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It would make grinding for stuff a little more interesting ...

Hehe, you know it wouldn't have to stop there. You could have the option of pimping out your crew members for ship parts. Would have made preparing for the collector base way more interesting....
schwabman 17th May 2011, 17:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by jimmyjj
Not funny, you're a wrong 'un.
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Originally Posted by Canon
What the hell man.
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Originally Posted by Pete J
Dude, not cool.

LOL what the hell is wrong with the people on this site? That joke was great! Stop being hypersensitive pussies.

To the story, what the hell happened to their claim that being gay didn't fit his personality? I guess that's just one more inconsistency to add to the series. Thank the gay mafia for pressuring Bioware. But I guess it's really Bioware's fault for being spineless.
Scroome 17th May 2011, 17:49 Quote
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LOL what the hell is wrong with the people on this site? That joke was great! Stop being hypersensitive pussies

Now I'm not getting angry here, but just out of curiosity, what is the joke about naming your character after a young boy who died as the result of a hate crime?
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Thank the gay mafia for pressuring Bioware. But I guess it's really Bioware's fault for being spineless.

I'm fairly doubtful that this is the main reason for Biowares decision to include the possibility of a gay male relationship in the game. I don't know about you, but I don't think I saw the last include a gay shepard rally in the streets.
jimmyjj 17th May 2011, 21:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by VipersGratitude
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Originally Posted by Pete J
I would like to think that you're right but only VipersGratitude knows what he was initially up to: let's hope he meant what you think he meant.

Malvolio more or less summed it up. I was going to write more. I was going to qualify that statement adding that perhaps, if this is what the designers had intended all along, the naming of Shepard probably wasn't a happy accident.

But I didn't write more. I didn't preach, figuring that I could make a more powerful point by omitting an explanation. My guess was that by leaving it ambiguous I would be interpreted as following the zeitgeist of the thread - And that I was the one who had pushed "the joke" too far...

To give those just "having a laugh" with it something to consider.

Either that or your back pedalling because you went too far and looked like an arse and a hater. I guess people will judge for themselves.
VipersGratitude 17th May 2011, 22:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by jimmyjj
Either that or your back pedalling because you went too far and looked like an arse and a hater. I guess people will judge for themselves.

Knock yourself out.
I have previously opined on the topic in my post history.
Mr.Juniorer 19th February 2012, 20:18 Quote
I think it's awesome that Mass Effect 3 will have gay romances. I find it unfair that the previos 2 games had it but only for female characters. If having the gay romances in Mass Effect 3 is really true, then it would make more people feel welcome. Although I think even though Mass Effect 3 is already an awesome game, I really think the sales would boost higher if it had gay romances. I really find it unfair that there's only gay romances for females.
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