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Dragon Age 2 DLC announced

Dragon Age 2 DLC announced

Electronic Arts and Bioware have announced an 'epic DLC pack' a week before the game is out.

Electronic Arts and Bioware have announced a new downloadable expansion to Dragon Age 2 a week before the game is even released.

The pack, called The Exiled Prince, will offer an 'epic quest' as well as an entirely new character for players to recruit - Sebastian, the titular prince who now seeks to reclaim the throne.

The Exiled Prince will cost 560 MS Points on Xbox 360, or roughly £5 GBP ($7 USD) on other platforms and will be available to play when Dragon Age 2 launches on March 8th.

The announcement has provoked a negative reaction from critics and fans however, who object to Electronic Arts' strategy of announcing premium content ahead of the full game - a tactic recently rolled out for Bulletstorm too.

You can check out the trailer for The Exiled Prince below, as well as check our latest Dragon Age 2 preview for more information on the game.

Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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SpAceman 3rd March 2011, 11:49 Quote
Not this trick again. What's the chance that buying the DLC will just unlock pre-existing game files that come with the original release? At least its cheap.
niro 3rd March 2011, 11:50 Quote
This is just ridiculous, no need to say anymore really.

And come on EA, while Activision seem intent of making as many gamers hate them as possible, you had a chance to look good, but nope blew it once again.
I hope Valve doesn't turn into turd companies like EA and Activision
wiggles 3rd March 2011, 11:58 Quote
More guff for drones
Threefiguremini 3rd March 2011, 12:00 Quote
I don't understand why they would announce this. Even if it is again unlocked content on the disc why not just wait till you've released the game to announce it? Just seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot for no reason.
loftie 3rd March 2011, 12:13 Quote
While DLC can be good - I'm thinking the 4 that you can get for borderlands - most companies just seem to want to churn out DLC at a ridiculous rate. I'm not surprised by this from Bioware. Unless they do the whole Zaeed thing like from ME2 or Shale from DA, but I can't see it.

I think what bugs me more is the whole preorder from X receive ring of awesome, preorder from y receive sword of awesome. I'd like to be able to have them all ^^
[USRF]Obiwan 3rd March 2011, 12:15 Quote
They should rename DLC to PFLU (Pay For Level Unlock)
RedFlames 3rd March 2011, 12:22 Quote
is this one of the DLC you get/got for pre-ordering or is this in addition to that?
greigaitken 3rd March 2011, 12:28 Quote
"I think what bugs me more is the whole preorder from X receive ring of awesome, preorder from y receive sword of awesome. I'd like to be able to have them all ^

I dont want to start with super gear so that 1st half of game is easy
I thought the last DA add on was way too easy even on "hard"
Jewels 3rd March 2011, 12:49 Quote
Shale I can understand being released alongside Origin's release as the main game had essentially been completed for the PC, but the release was delayed for six months so it could be released simultaneously with the consoles. This gave BioWare time to finish up Shale along with other additional content.

As far as I'm aware the Exiled Prince was announced long before DAII had gone gold, so I'm wondering what their excuse is this time.
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Originally Posted by RedFlames
is this one of the DLC you get/got for pre-ordering or is this in addition to that?

It's the same DLC included in the Signature Edition, so it's not exactly news, although this is its official announcement including its standalone price.
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Originally Posted by greigaitken
"I think what bugs me more is the whole preorder from X receive ring of awesome, preorder from y receive sword of awesome. I'd like to be able to have them all

This is my major gripe more than anything else, where you must buy from a specific (r)etailer, or buy some other product in order to receive a promotional in-game digital item, which isn't available through any other means. Examples include a bonus item exclusive to [insert store], Ser Isaac's armour available only with retail copies of Dead Space 2, and purchasing $15 worth of merchandise from Epic Weapons in order to receive the Ring of Whispers for free (which has truly extortionate shipping prices). You can actually set your own price and buy the Ring of Whispers by itself, although you'll be charged $10 in shipping just for an email containing a code.
adam_bagpuss 3rd March 2011, 13:26 Quote
welcome to the new age of DLC

puplishers and developers no longer include content in games if you want that you must buy it as an add on.

$$$RESULT$$$

i remember when games had lots of quests, maps, units, items etc. now they contain a few and expect you to pay for just a few more then a few more with 2nd DLC and new items with the 3rd DLC.

all resulting in a game that costs £35 + £10 + £10 +£10 = £65 !!! which should have had all the DLC content in the original !!!!!
whisperwolf 3rd March 2011, 13:51 Quote
All this DLC crap just makes me wait till they release a Game of the year edition including all the DLC released, and then I make sure I wait for that to drop in price. worked for Assassins creed 2, does mean I'm about 6-12 months behind new releases, but somehow, these days, I don't care.
javaman 3rd March 2011, 13:52 Quote
DLC/expansions are very overpriced IMO. Suppose its better than rebuying a whole new game ie. COD games.
LeMaltor 3rd March 2011, 14:07 Quote
Not buying DA2 so meh!
Paradigm Shifter 3rd March 2011, 14:09 Quote
Looks like this is another game I'll wait to buy until the Game of the Year/Ultimate/Ultra-Mega-Super-Awesome-Perfect-Knock-Your-Socks-Off-Edition is released.

And DLC that you can only get from specific shops for preordering needs to burn and die.
Tieger 3rd March 2011, 14:11 Quote
Good to see lots of people complaining without really knowing what's going on, as per usual.

This is already included in the signature edition. The signature edition is what everyone that pre-ordered more than a month or so got automatically, for the same price as the normal edition. Therefore, what this is, is a pre-order bonus that they have decided to extend to non-preorderers.

I'm sure next people will be complaining about the Black Emporium DLC - which is actually being used as DRM (exactly like Shale and Zaeed were) to discourage people picking it up pre-owned on consoles.
Unknownsock 3rd March 2011, 14:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
I think what bugs me more is the whole preorder from X receive ring of awesome, preorder from y receive sword of awesome. I'd like to be able to have them all ^^

You can install most of them yourself anyway.
WildThing 3rd March 2011, 14:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by whisperwolf
All this DLC crap just makes me wait till they release a Game of the year edition including all the DLC released, and then I make sure I wait for that to drop in price. worked for Assassins creed 2, does mean I'm about 6-12 months behind new releases, but somehow, these days, I don't care.
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Looks like this is another game I'll wait to buy until the Game of the Year/Ultimate/Ultra-Mega-Super-Awesome-Perfect-Knock-Your-Socks-Off-Edition is released.

And DLC that you can only get from specific shops for preordering needs to burn and die.

QFT.
Zurechial 3rd March 2011, 14:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tieger
I'm sure next people will be complaining about the Black Emporium DLC - which is actually being used as DRM (exactly like Shale and Zaeed were) to discourage people picking it up pre-owned on consoles.

Yeah, can you believe the audacity of people for complaining about being bent over and wallet-raped by publishers for content that we used to get for free before big money came along to **** up the games industry?

I know what I'd tell them if I were a publisher, that's for sure! "Buy our overpriced, underdeveloped, dumbed-down, mass market **** for ridiculous prices, kids!"
Yeah, that's what. Honesty is my biggest flaw.

Hoo hah! Corporate shilling! Hurr! Defend the little publisher who could, god knows they need protection against the vicious and dangerous comments of uninformed customers!
Tieger 3rd March 2011, 15:04 Quote
yeah goddammit, how DARE companies protect their investment in making a game! DRM is a breach of our human rights! our basic right to copy whatever the hell we like, and not give its creators any payment for it!
Th3Maverick 3rd March 2011, 15:44 Quote
This is funny. I remember a couple of years ago when DLC first started rollling out in earnest, people on this very site were talking about the exorbitant costs associated with AAA development costs. In that discussion, it was more or less universally agreed upon that paid DLC would be preferable to publishers jacking up the price of the base games--I assumed that meant they could announce the DLC whenever the hell they wanted. AAA games on consoles and PC still cost ~$50-60, last I checked.

Is not having this DLC going to affect the core game? Doesn't look like it to me. You know what we call DLC that does affect the core game, ie you only get half the game for the initial cost? We call it "episodic content".

Seriously, what's the problem? Personally, I would rather pay $50 for a game and not necessarily have all the side and sub quests associated with it; I, like a lot of core gamers these days, just don't have the time to drop 100+ hours into a game to fully "complete" it. So why would I want to pay the extra $7 (in this case) for content I'll probably never see anyway? Let those who have the time and the money offset the cost for me.
Zurechial 3rd March 2011, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Th3Maverick
This is funny. I remember a couple of years ago when DLC first started rollling out in earnest, people on this very site were talking about the exorbitant costs associated with AAA development costs. In that discussion, it was more or less universally agreed upon that paid DLC would be preferable to publishers jacking up the price of the base games

You fail to mention the significant caveat that people had in mind when they 'universally agreed'.
Nobody wanted games to get more expensive at their base price, but nobody wanted DLC to take the form of content stripped from the game just so they could plough our wallets later for more money on top of the game's base price, either.
Unfortunately, due to corporate greed and an excess of money in the games industry that's exactly what has happened with a lot of DLC since then - Content that was finished, ready for gold and a part of the original game is increasingly being held back and charged for as 'bonus content'.

Incentivising gamers into buying games rather than pirating them through the use of free DLC is fine by me, and could be seen as a modern take on how developers used to deliver content patches, map packs and miniature expansions for free out of a love for their games and appreciation for their customers.
This no longer happens very often, likely because the content we used to get for free is being wrapped up as DLC and delivered at a cost to the unwitting consumer.

The significance of when the DLC announcements are made is that it just shows the absolute arrogance of these companies when they don't even care how obvious it is that this content is being developed simultaneously with the base game or as part of the base game.
It just goes to show their total disregard for the customer. Though when the majority of customers are stupid enough to go along with it it's almost to be expected.
Horse Armour - Case in point.
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Originally Posted by Th3Maverick

Is not having this DLC going to affect the core game? Doesn't look like it to me. You know what we call DLC that does affect the core game, ie you only get half the game for the initial cost? We call it "episodic content".
And you think that's fair? You think you're being appreciated as a customer by a system such as that?
When publishers or developers can announce DLC in advance of the game's release it indicates that it has affected the core game, because it means that content that could have been part of the core game has been intentionally separated from it for profit.
It's arguable that DLC content is developed after the game has gone gold, but I find that hard to believe and frankly a naïve view to take.
Dragon Age: Origins had NPCs and menus in-place at release that essentially played the role of advertisting paid DLC to the player in-game and offering them a quest which they could only take if they handed over their cash and bought the content that had been obviously and blatantly stripped from the game in advance of its release.
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Originally Posted by Th3Maverick

Seriously, what's the problem?

The problem is that an ignorant majority of uninformed consumers who lap this kind of profiteering up because they have an excess of disposable income and low expectations are pushing the market towards this kind of practice; and the rest of us are being gouged for it.

The problem is that people aren't demanding more for their money and are settling for whatever they're given by the corporate decision makers.
Fizzban 3rd March 2011, 17:04 Quote
I pre-ordered back in January so this will come in my signature edition. Basically its just like when I got Shale and Warden's Keep in DA:O. I got it free with my game.

Games roughly cost the same to buy as they always have, but the cost of making the games is rising. So extra funds have to come from somewhere. At least with DLC it's your choice if you stump up the cash or not. Rather than them just charging everyone more for every game they release.

Still, they should have waited until the game had shipped before promoting the DLC. Does make people really annoyed when they do it this way.
vdbswong 3rd March 2011, 17:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fizzban
Still, they should have waited until the game had shipped before promoting the DLC. Does make people really annoyed when they do it this way.

As you said, games are costing more to develop, and if that's the case i can't really fault them for trying to recuperate as much money as possible at launch; that is before they have to slash the price in a sale, or launch a "Super/Mega/Ultra Edition" to satisfy those who want everything in one basket.

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Not to mention, if it's just a case of bad timing, then people really need to chill and stop being so "hurt", because either way:

a) People who would buy the DLC after launch will still probably buy it now or slightly later.

b) People who wouldn't buy the DLC normally, still won't buy it.

and finally:

c) Ragers will still rage at how DLC should have been released with the actual game and/or that it's overpriced etc. and then still follow a) or b).

Ultimately the only thing that "timing" changes is your own personal perception of the situation, in reality it changes nothing. People either buy the DLC they want, or buy none at all (that is to say, when the DLC is released usually has no bearing on whether someone purchases it or not - only maybe on "when" it's purchased however, and IIRC the DA or Mass Effect DLC has never been on sale for the PC Platform).
sharpethunder 3rd March 2011, 20:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by vdbswong



+ With regards to that last part about an "Ultimate/Game of the Year" Edition, IIRC, the Ultimate Edition of Dragon Age still only came with Awakenings and none of the extra DLC (Return to Ostagar, Darkspawn Chronicles, Golems of Something, Witch Hunt etc. (although i believe the latter wasn't out yet)).



Well i own DA Ultimate Edition and it came with all the dlc and no extra cost
BlackMage23 3rd March 2011, 20:11 Quote
Have EA put an ad out for a new head of marketing yet? cus if they haven't, then they bloody well should be.
Eiffie 3rd March 2011, 20:37 Quote
DLC - Downloadable Crap
dubq 3rd March 2011, 20:44 Quote
Where have you people been? This DLC was announced ages ago. It comes with the Signature Edition (for free) - which was the standard price of $59 and was on sale up until January 18..
Horizon 3rd March 2011, 22:16 Quote
And they wonder why.
vdbswong 3rd March 2011, 22:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by sharpethunder
Well i own DA Ultimate Edition and it came with all the dlc and no extra cost

Whoops my bad, you're right.

Now corrected.
Jewels 3rd March 2011, 22:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by sharpethunder
Well i own DA Ultimate Edition and it came with all the dlc and no extra cost

Almost. The Ultimate Edition doesn't contain the promotional DLC, five of which are encrypted (they require authorisation) and can't be installed manually like some of the others.
sausages 4th March 2011, 01:16 Quote
The thing I find distasteful about DLC like this, is that in the good ole days, companies strived to make their games as big and as absolutely fulfilling as they could possibly manage to make. The only limit, was the companies time and budget. They arranged a budget that they could afford, and then they made the best game they could possibly make with that budget.

With these old games, if there was ever an addon or an expansion, it happened because the original game sold so well, that they could afford to make extra content. That is great, because this is new content that simply couldn't have existed in the original game, they already gave everything they could give.

These days though, they can obviously afford to put more in the game because they have made it... All they are doing is withholding this extra content on purpose, so that they can charge extra for it. It's content that COULD have been in the game you pay full price for, but they don't want you to have it unless you pay extra. Of course, that's just business, and in most industries they offer products and services that are slimmed down unless you pay extra... However what I find distasteful, is that with most of these other products and services (like a car for example), the basic product that you pay for is usually pretty good value for money. I might buy a car and they don't give me the built in satnav package and multi CD changer and seat massagers, but that's ok, at least the car I'm getting is still really good and I'm happy to pay what it costs for that. But with games like Dragon Age 2, they have admitted that the main quest is shorter than the first game (a lot shorter if you read between the lines), and I always thought that even the first game was far too short. I always felt like just as I was really getting warmed up and I had finally saved up enough gold to start buying some good gear, the end was all of a sudden upon me. I was very disappointed, especially seeing as I hoped it might live up to the kind of length and standard set by Baldur's Gate 2, but it was miles off.

So yeah this time, it's even shorter again, and yet they are still going to charge people full price, and charge extra for content that should have been in the game. The sad thing is, if game buyers were a bit more discerning with their money, they wouldn't be able to get away with **** like this. But sadly, the average mainstream gamer throws away their money without a second thought, just because the hype tells them that this game is "the next big thing". So they hassle their parents for the £30 or whatever and a month later they are looking for another game.

I was really glad to see some people in this thread talking about not falling for this, and waiting for the GOTY/Gold/whatever edition. I'm glad there are at least some people out there who aren't pushovers, shame it's such a minority.
necroscop 4th March 2011, 20:43 Quote
I use to buy games at their full price as soon as they out. But since they play with DLC I do not buy new games just save money and buy them on Steam when they in promotion.
This way instead of paying £35 plus £5 to £15 for all DLC I buy bundle on Steam few months later for £20 or less. So they make less money on me.
jimmyjj 6th March 2011, 00:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by WildThing
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Originally Posted by whisperwolf
All this DLC crap just makes me wait till they release a Game of the year edition including all the DLC released, and then I make sure I wait for that to drop in price. worked for Assassins creed 2, does mean I'm about 6-12 months behind new releases, but somehow, these days, I don't care.
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Looks like this is another game I'll wait to buy until the Game of the Year/Ultimate/Ultra-Mega-Super-Awesome-Perfect-Knock-Your-Socks-Off-Edition is released.

And DLC that you can only get from specific shops for preordering needs to burn and die.

QFT.

Yep.

Always buy my games from either Amazon after they have dropped in price or the Steam Sale. Can not remember the last time I payed over £15 pound for a game.

Actually I can, I paid full whack for Starcraft 2, but apart from that it has been literally years since I paid anything but budget prices for a game.
Blackie Chan 7th March 2011, 04:58 Quote
The story in the first one was good. But it was no where near BG2. I hope the new one is a little better.
Pooeypants 7th March 2011, 18:15 Quote
So, they want us to pay full price for a game which they have taken small chunks out of (sometimes not even, they just haven't activated it) and then want us to pay a little extra to get it? No thanks, I'd rather wait for the Ultimate edition like I did with the original Dragon Age.
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