Deus Ex 3 is Eidos and Square Enix joint effort

Square Enix is currently collaborating with Eidos on Deus Ex 3 and is developing all the cutscenes.

Final Fantasy developer Square Enix is helping out Eidos Montreal with Deus Ex 3, it was revealed today. Specifically, Square Enix is helping Eidos to develop the cutscenes and in-game cinematics.

While it may seem like an unusual partnership, Square Enix is apparently very proud to be working on the Deus Ex franchise and is keen to help Eidos on other IPs that are in production - Thief 4 in particular.

"The people in Tokyo are just so glad to work on it," said Eidos' Stephane D'Astous in a comment to Edge. "This is the first project for them that's a non-Final Fantasy title--they even want to work on Thief 4 too."

Square Enix bought out the UK-based Eidos earlier this year after the company fell on hard times and started looking for buy-out offers. While EA and Ubisoft were other contenders for the ownership of the Deus Ex, Thief and Tomb Raider franchises that Eidos owns, it was Square that closed the deal in the end.

News on Deus Ex 3 itself has been slow over the past few months, with a 2009 release date silently sliding out of sight while Eidos continues to work on the title. It has been confirmed that the game is a cyberpunk prequel to the first game though and Eidos has previously hinted that it might not be getting a console release due to the complexity of the game.

The original Deus Ex is often labelled as one of the best PC games ever developed, but let us know your thoughts in the forums.
Quote Krikkit 25th November 2009, 12:27
Sounds pretty damn good to me! If they can lend even 10% of their FMV skills it'll be win. :D

It also sounds like they're pretty enthusiastic about making the game as good as possible, not just chopping it up into a console port like #2 (although the actual game was still pretty respectable, it just wasn't DE to me).
Quote azrael- 25th November 2009, 12:51
A PC exclusive... Now that's music to my ears. :)
Quote zelachang 25th November 2009, 12:55
I'm very hopeful that this will be able to hold a candle to the original. With Square-Enix doing the movies (awesome) and development focused ONLY on the pc (super awesome) and the fact that Eidos seems to be taking its time to get it right means this has a chance to be good. Do it well and you have my money eidos+square!
Quote storm20200 25th November 2009, 12:58
Let's just hope they don't use a leona lewis song for the theme tune again >.>
Quote liratheal 25th November 2009, 13:08
I am praying to every god I can find that this game is at least close to as good as the first one.
Quote kosch 25th November 2009, 13:29
Even though there isnt much up about this game yet the official Deus Ex 3 forums are always awash with new posts. Some good info over there.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=252
Quote Christof_II 25th November 2009, 13:39
glad to hear there going back to a more complex game like the first one DX:IW was way too consolified
Quote okenobi 25th November 2009, 13:41
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Originally Posted by azrael-
A PC exclusive... Now that's music to my ears. :)

This ^^, is fundamental to my (albeit veiled in cynicism) excitement about this announcement. I don't need it to be as good as the original. IMHO it would be difficult to replicate the classic status of the original. I just would like a game to look forward to and really enjoy and a 24hr playing time would be nice. All the console bollocks of the last couple of years has not endeared itself to me.
Quote Yemerich 25th November 2009, 13:41
Great! Now you will be able to fire missiles through your eyes be means of augumentation in Deus Ex, and in thief you will carry a saw sword that is double you size wich you'll be able to throw and make an entire castle fall apart. Untill of course you find a boss that is related to you somehow that have a sword two times bigger than yours that can end the world if it falls on the floor.
All this because you didn't find the ULTIMATE BAD BOSS that is ten times worst...

In THAT game. Wait to see the next one!

Have you noticed I hate manga cliches?...
Quote ChaosDefinesOrder 25th November 2009, 13:45
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Originally Posted by Yemerich
Great! Now you will be able to fire missiles through your eyes be means of augumentation in Deus Ex, and in thief you will carry a saw sword that is double you size wich you'll be able to throw and make an entire castle fall apart. Untill of course you find a boss that is related to you somehow that have a sword two times bigger than yours that can end the world if it falls on the floor.
All this because you didn't find the ULTIMATE BAD BOSS that is ten times worst...

In THAT game. Wait to see the next one!

Have you noticed I hate manga cliches?...

you'll also be able to ride giant coloured demented ostriches...
Quote Gunsmith 25th November 2009, 13:56
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It has been confirmed that the game is a cyberpunk prequel to the first game though and that it won't be getting a console release due to the complexity of the game.

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Quote steveo_mcg 25th November 2009, 14:01
Off course we're all going to go out and buy five copies each regardless of how good a game it is just to prove the PC exclusives are viable as a platform.... I'll stick my £200 quid aside now
Quote Phil Rhodes 25th November 2009, 14:08
Hope that it'll be good.

Fear that it won't.
Quote specofdust 25th November 2009, 14:48
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
Off course we're all going to go out and buy five copies each regardless of how good a game it is just to prove the PC exclusives are viable as a platform.... I'll stick my £200 quid aside now

Yup.

Deus Ex is one of the few names left out there which gets my stupid unthinking blind loyalty. I'd buy it just on the off chance that it's anywhere near as Deus Ex 1. I suspect we're looking at somewhere between DX1 and DX:IW level of awesomeness, but I suppose that's a bit like saying it's going to be somewhere between heaven and hell.
Quote kylew 25th November 2009, 15:01
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"This is the first project for them that's a non-Final Fantasy title--they even want to work on Thief 4 too."

Hmm? I'm really unsure what she means by this? Square-Enix have made loads of non-Final Fantasy games...
Quote Tris 25th November 2009, 15:09
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Originally Posted by kylew
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Originally Posted by article
"This is the first project for them that's a non-Final Fantasy title--they even want to work on Thief 4 too."

Hmm? I'm really unsure what she means by this? Square-Enix have made loads of non-Final Fantasy games...

probably referring to the specific team that is working with them rather than square-enix as a company.
Quote Denis_iii 25th November 2009, 16:12
i heard the first deux ex was a classic but sequel not so good, I've not played either, are they still playable?
some games just don't age well but some like dugeon keeper 2 are timeless
Quote Redbeaver 25th November 2009, 16:16
PC exclusive?? i dont care if my wife put me in the doghouse for a week, im definitely buying it. (not that she would, but im just sayin even if she would....)

@Denisiii, yes, the first DE is definitely playable. u should play it. the sequel u can forget.
Quote reflux 25th November 2009, 16:31
PC EXCLUSIVE¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS COULD BE THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, best news of the year for PC gaming.
Quote Zurechial 25th November 2009, 17:00
PC Exclusive? Holy ****. I'll buy it on principle.
Square Enix, a company who actually cares about the games it puts out are getting heavily involved?

This game could actually be good.. I assumed all along that it'd be another dumbed-down console port like Invisible War, so I'm very pleased to be wrong on that count if this is true.

Nothing will ever come close to the original (they'd need Warren Spector involved for that to happen) but these two little details are possibly the best news I've read in gaming in the past couple of years..
Quote REMF 25th November 2009, 17:28
" It has been confirmed that the game is a cyberpunk prequel to the first game though and that it won't be getting a console release due to the complexity of the game."

The best news I have heard in a LONG time!
Quote REMF 25th November 2009, 17:30
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Originally Posted by Zurechial

Nothing will ever come close to the original (they'd need Warren Spector involved for that to happen) but these two little details are possibly the best news I've read in gaming in the past couple of years..
Warren Spector made a mess of the second one, i'm willing to let someone else have a go.
Quote sear 25th November 2009, 17:38
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It has been confirmed that the game is a cyberpunk prequel to the first game though and that it won't be getting a console release due to the complexity of the game.
I want to giggle with glee right about now, but... source?
Quote knyghtryda 25th November 2009, 18:05
maybe they can take the approach of CDProjekt's The Witcher (IMO the best rpg in the last few years) and release the console version later. It gives the best of both worlds... a deep PC game and an accessible console one. Deus Ex 1 was definitely a bit too menu and keyboard heavy to directly port. Here's hoping this makes up for the mess that was Deus Ex 2: Invisible War. Cyberpunk gaming lives!
Quote Zurechial 25th November 2009, 19:14
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Originally Posted by REMF
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Originally Posted by Zurechial

Nothing will ever come close to the original (they'd need Warren Spector involved for that to happen) but these two little details are possibly the best news I've read in gaming in the past couple of years..
Warren Spector made a mess of the second one, i'm willing to let someone else have a go.

Just waiting on Joe to step in on this one. Spector wasn't involved in Invisible War according to him, I've been corrected on that count before. ;)

Also, Alexander Brandon is back on the music for Deus Ex 3 according to IMDB, which is a recipe for absolute win. His work on soundtracks for Deus Ex, Unreal, UT, jazz Jackrabbit, etc was just fantastic.
Quote Gunsmith 25th November 2009, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Zurechial

Also, Alexander Brandon is back on the music for Deus Ex 3 according to IMDB, which is a recipe for absolute win. His work on soundtracks for Deus Ex, Unreal, UT, jazz Jackrabbit, etc was just fantastic.

OH GOD COULD THIS GET ANYMORE WIN?!
Quote delriogw 25th November 2009, 19:18
i have to admit i find the pc exclusivity elation amusing. while i abhor the consolification in recent times of games that could otherwise have been great, i actually first discovered deus ex through the ps2 version of the game. it was intensly playable, and not having a pc at the time, i would possibly never have come across the game otherwise.

it's great, however, that they are concentrating on the pc. if it comes out in future on consoles then great - that opens it up to a wider audience, but the two platforms need to be catered for separately, and i am greatly looking forward to this game.

but i'm very very pleased to see that they're taking their time with this game and not doing an EA to rush it out and 'fix' it with a patch. i've always said to my friends that i'd rather wait an extra 6 months for a game that's worth it than have a game on the original release date (or at least vaguely near it) that's flawed and nearly unplayable.
Quote Zurechial 25th November 2009, 19:24
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
OH GOD COULD THIS GET ANYMORE WIN?!

Music-wise, I really don't think it could.
Except perhaps if they brought in Dan Gardopée, Michiel van den Bos, and Andrew Sega alongside, since those 4 guys seem to produce incredible soundtracks when they work together.
The gods of the mod tracker. :D
Quote sear 25th November 2009, 19:37
Again, I'd like to reiterate: do you have a source for the claim that the game is a PC exclusive, due to its "complexity"? Everything released so far that I have read has indicated the game is targeted towards multiple platforms, including consoles and PC, though admittedly they have not specified which consoles.
Quote azrael- 25th November 2009, 19:43
Slightly unrelated, but some of the best game music I've ever heard was the score for Clive Barker's Undying (ace game as it is). The score was composed by Bill Brown, who amongst other things is also responsible for scoring CSI: NY.

Some other game music I've admired immensely is the Unreal II score. Don't know who did it, but some pieces are just purely brilliant. The music is OGG-encoded and I believe that some pieces aren't even used in the game (criminal, to be honest).

End of digression... :)

Oh... and I want System Shock 3 now!
Quote Zurechial 25th November 2009, 19:57
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Originally Posted by azrael-

Some other game music I've admired immensely is the Unreal II score. Don't know who did it, but some pieces are just purely brilliant. The music is OGG-encoded and I believe that some pieces aren't even used in the game (criminal, to be honest).
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Unreal 2: Additional music (with Clint Bajakian, Jack Wall and Crispin Hands)

I'm not familiar with the other two, but Jack Wall was one of the composers of the incredible soundtrack for Mass Effect (alongside Sam Hulick).
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Oh... and I want System Shock 3 now!

System Shock 2 also had awesome music, courtesy of Eric Brosius, who was the main composer for the Thief series, if memory serves correctly.
His wife, Terry, played the voice of SHODAN in SS2. :)


It seems to me that there is a circle of composers within the games industry of the 90's and early 00's who all worked together at some point.

Andrew Sega (Necros), who I mentioned above, worked on the music for the Crusader series for Origin back in the day.
One of his tracks (Isotoxin) is remixed as part of the Unreal soundtrack, and used in another remix in the UT3 soundtrack I think.

The other common link that I can see between many of those composers was their involvement in tracker music and the demoscene.
Quote docodine 25th November 2009, 20:44
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Originally Posted by Yemerich
Great! Now you will be able to fire missiles through your eyes be means of augumentation in Deus Ex, and in thief you will carry a saw sword that is double you size wich you'll be able to throw and make an entire castle fall apart. Untill of course you find a boss that is related to you somehow that have a sword two times bigger than yours that can end the world if it falls on the floor.
All this because you didn't find the ULTIMATE BAD BOSS that is ten times worst...

In THAT game. Wait to see the next one!

Have you noticed I hate manga cliches?...

There actually was a Skull-Gun aug in Deux Ex.. :p
Quote SazBard 25th November 2009, 22:12
Wow! This is the first bit of PC news in a long time to make me sit up and take notice. Square Enix influenced Deus Ex and possible Thief 4. Count me in man!

Can't wait. 5/5
Quote SMIFFYDUDE 25th November 2009, 23:18
Its amazing what hearing PC only can do to ones faith in developers.
Quote Laser Eyes 26th November 2009, 03:21
Clearly the people on this forum have the lowest IQs on the net. This is obviously bulls**t. There is no way Deus Ex 3 will be a PC exclusive. Even PC fanboys Crytek are making Crysis 2 for consoles as well as PC. It simply is not econonically viable to release a major AAA title for PC exclusively. Every major release nowadays must be released on multiple platforms to be profitable. The writer of the article is blowing a lot crap our way. The supposed source for the info will not be made public because there is no source. It's a barefaced lie.
Quote Gunsmith 26th November 2009, 03:30
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Originally Posted by Laser Eyes
Clearly the people on this forum have the lowest IQs on the net. This is obviously bulls**t. There is no way Deus Ex 3 will be a PC exclusive. Even PC fanboys Crytek are making Crysis 2 for consoles as well as PC. It simply is not econonically viable to release a major AAA title for PC exclusively. Every major release nowadays must be released on multiple platforms to be profitable. The writer of the article is blowing a lot crap our way. The supposed source for the info will not be made public because there is no source. It's a barefaced lie.

/butthurt :D
Quote format 26th November 2009, 03:58
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laser Eyes
Clearly the people on this forum have the lowest IQs on the net. This is obviously bulls**t. There is no way Deus Ex 3 will be a PC exclusive. Even PC fanboys Crytek are making Crysis 2 for consoles as well as PC. It simply is not econonically viable to release a major AAA title for PC exclusively. Every major release nowadays must be released on multiple platforms to be profitable. The writer of the article is blowing a lot crap our way. The supposed source for the info will not be made public because there is no source. It's a barefaced lie.

http://therustynail.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/butthurt-form.jpg
Quote CardJoe 26th November 2009, 07:53
Whoops - just a heads up to say that PC exclusivity is not confirmed like the article originally claimed, though it has been hinted at and PC is the only confirmed platform at this point. That wasn't clear in the original article and I've only just noticed, so I've updated the story for clarity.
Quote Coldon 26th November 2009, 08:16
yeh well with most PC gamers thinking "why buy when I can steal" and then bitching about lack of decent PC games and how everything is just a shitty console port, i can understand why publishers would be hesitant to do PC exclusives. I doubt this will be a PC exclusive but I really hope it doesn't become a dumbed down console-tard game either...

personally I'm gonna throw as much cash as I can at EA / square enix, for supporting the PC gaming scene.

in related news: deus ex3? O M GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! hehe, i'm pretty amped!!
Quote Whalemeister 26th November 2009, 09:32
NO WAI!!!!1
I WANTZ DIZ ON MY XBOX
Quote REMF 26th November 2009, 12:34
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Originally Posted by Zurechial
Just waiting on Joe to step in on this one. Spector wasn't involved in Invisible War according to him, I've been corrected on that count before. ;)

Also, Alexander Brandon is back on the music for Deus Ex 3 according to IMDB, which is a recipe for absolute win. His work on soundtracks for Deus Ex, Unreal, UT, jazz Jackrabbit, etc was just fantastic.

if i had known that i would not have bought the second Deus Ex, so they only have themselves to blame if i remain skeptical about the impact of Spector's impact on the third.......

But cheers for the info. :)
Quote sear 26th November 2009, 16:10
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Whoops - just a heads up to say that PC exclusivity is not confirmed like the article originally claimed, though it has been hinted at and PC is the only confirmed platform at this point. That wasn't clear in the original article and I've only just noticed, so I've updated the story for clarity.
Thanks for that. The official FAQ on the game's forum says that Windows is the only confirmed platform, with no planned Mac or Wii versions, but it does not rule out other consoles, such as the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Quote Ghys 26th November 2009, 16:16
I just learned yesterday that the game was under development ! I have a friend that's working on the textures for the game (at Eidos Montreal)
Quote okenobi 26th November 2009, 16:50
It doesn't need to be PC exclusive, providing they actually bother to make it work on the PC, then dumb it down for consoles IF they really have to.

The last time I saw this was the original GRAW. I remember loving the tactical play and sat map element. When my mate bought the same game for his 360, it looked crap and you had virtually no control over your team compare to the PC version. The levels also looked different to me. Whether they were or not I don't know. Anyway, as a console man, he was happy with his version. But I was happy that mine was definitely a more interesting and involving experience.

Fair enough, people have gotta make money. But as others have said, I'd probably pay for this regardless of how crap it was to support decent PC games.
Quote CardJoe 26th November 2009, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Ghys
I just learned yesterday that the game was under development ! I have a friend that's working on the textures for the game (at Eidos Montreal)

Rumours and leaks definitely appreciated ;)
Quote azrael- 26th November 2009, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Ghys
I just learned yesterday that the game was under development ! I have a friend that's working on the textures for the game (at Eidos Montreal)
Spill the beans! NOW! Even if it's in French (we got Google Translate for that :)).
Quote Orothe 27th November 2009, 05:14
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Originally Posted by ChaosDefinesOrder
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Originally Posted by Yemerich
Great! Now you will be able to fire missiles through your eyes be means of augumentation in Deus Ex, and in thief you will carry a saw sword that is double you size wich you'll be able to throw and make an entire castle fall apart. Untill of course you find a boss that is related to you somehow that have a sword two times bigger than yours that can end the world if it falls on the floor.
All this because you didn't find the ULTIMATE BAD BOSS that is ten times worst...

In THAT game. Wait to see the next one!

Have you noticed I hate manga cliches?...

you'll also be able to ride giant coloured demented ostriches...

You're just jealous cause you couldn't think of a cuter mount than a Chocobo. =)
Quote Ghys 27th November 2009, 06:43
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Rumours and leaks definitely appreciated ;)

I wouldn't want him to get in trouble :D
Quote alastor 27th November 2009, 10:33
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Whoops - just a heads up to say that PC exclusivity is not confirmed like the article originally claimed, though it has been hinted at and PC is the only confirmed platform at this point. That wasn't clear in the original article and I've only just noticed, so I've updated the story for clarity.
Oops: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/deus-ex-3-not-exclusive-to-pc-after-all

Quote steveo_mcg 27th November 2009, 11:48
Ooops, Joe looks like you've started some thing here.

I don't really care if it gets a console port after or even at the same time as the PC release as long as its a decent non consoleified game developed with the PC in mind primarily.
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