Modern Warfare 2 PC player limit slashed
Infinity Ward has waited until the last minute to reveal that the PC version will now only support 18 players.
While previous PC games in the Call of Duty franchise have supported 32 players, the new version will fall in line with the console version and support only 18 players.
The comments came in a Best Buy Live Chat (via Eurogamer), where Infinity Ward's Mackey McCandlish confirmed that the maximum player count for online matches has been slashed.
According to Infinity Ward a cap of 18 players makes the game much easier to balance when it comes to map sizes, perks, classes and challenges.
The fact that it makes map sizes easier to balance is an important point, as the introduction of IWNet means there will no longer be user generated content for the game - so no huge maps.
Many PC gamers are feeling increasingly neglected by Infinity Ward judging by comments in our forums, with the developer clamping down on dedicated servers, user mods and now player counts too - though Infinity Ward says it's all for the best.
The game itself launches on November 10th, but until then you can let us know your thoughts in the forums.
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Discuss in the forums ReplyHeard this days ago though. Plus theres no lean function! isn't this almost PC standard nowadays?
Im going to torrent single player and thats it.
Because outsourcing COD worked so very well the last few times, right? If even IW can't do it right anymore, then i'd prefer if the franchise was killed off alltogether.
vote with your pockets, either buy the game or don't.
I'd say they've made it pretty clear they won't.
If this truely ends up being a bad game, why should we have to not buy it for them to realise that? Perhaps they should listen more to the people they are trying to sell it to. In the console vs. PC argument, PC gamers whine a hell of a lot more than console gamers.
it's £34.99 on Steam atm...
In that case, bitch over, I'll most likely buy it. Why is it so much on the console then?
PC gamers whine more over here because Bit has (understandably) a PC focused community head over to the console forums it makes /b/ look positively sensible.
I didn't get on with the multi player in mw but loved the single player so i intend to do as i did last time, buy it second hand.
P.S. I'm still waiting for "disable all the friggin grenades" option to be implemented.
But they have screwed it for the pc..
and i doubt they will change it.
The only thing the may change is the server slots 32etc
I have still ordered it on the pc though & will play it.
and so will many many more people.
Did they keep this, along with the other "improvements", quiet until late on because they might have a riot on their hands?
The standard Console Tax of course, we Pc gamers always pay our Window Tax in advance ;)
Personally I like the take on unique PC functionality: Not only does the PC version support the ability to change video resolutions, it also comes with mouse AND keyboard support! Though rumour has it that keyboard support will actually involve the purchase of additional DLC ;)
I can see why they have done it cus its easier to make a map for 9v9 for the PS3 and 360 then just put them on the PC instead of having to play test the same map with 64 ppl but it shows that they don't care about pc gaming
Go, IW, Go!
If they blame piracy for poor PC sales, I might just have to brick their offices.
if pc gamers really want to play this game they would haxk and mod the game so it plays better.'
If a pc gamer really wanted to play any console gamer we can use and build emulators
If pc gamers really want this game we can get and hack any game we want on any machine
is it worth it, to play on console junk No!
sorry I don't want to hear garbage while I am playing my games
http://kotaku.com/5397149/modern-warfare-2-pc-multiplayer-capped-at-9v9
I would be suprised to hear that infinty wards goes bankuprt in the futre. with console gaming in a deline.
infinty ward just handicap them self, they better pray that next generation of consoles don't flop
there is always another company ready to take their place, they are finshed as a company
http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/103/1036254p1.html
console gaming is a burning platform by the used game market and by pircay
I will not be suprised to see the xbox 260 pirated to hell and back
I will not be spurised to see console gaming hack really bad from this on in
here is a very good reason i will never ever buy a dumb console.
As I see it infinty wards is done as company, I can't wait to see them go bankuprt as company.
this how ugly the gaming Industry is
That's the only way this game is ever going to be done right, by the gaming community.
For those of you out there that thought that all of this was to create hype... you were wrong :(
Call of Duty is now dead. R.I.P. Thanks a lot IW... :(
Im sure it all adds up. Im also sure the game will still be successful financially... but no where near as successful as it could have been.
A tragic shame all round.
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/700461/Sesslers-Soapbox-Adam-Calls-Infinity-Ward-Out.html
there always trash on consoles
IW can tell me whats best for me, but as an adult, i will decide for myself and keep my money for a game/company that, i feel, will treat me better.
pc gaming has alot better looking games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCkWKBmUCTQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkoi6WCCJHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd-2dZMDAGw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsEovlCdoH8
So whats the max player limit on consoles then? I bet it's like 8 or something rofl-ish.
For multiplayer I can just go back to good old BF2 :)
As this seems to be a direct console port in everyway (Lazy Ba$tards) tomorrow's news will be that the PC version is capped to 720p resolution :(
Seeings how it seems to be identical to the console version maybe they will let PC players compete with consoles in multiplayer which might be the only redeeming feature as we get to own them all, the 3 PC owners that will have actually purchased the game that is.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/11298736/ea-ceo-gearing-up-for-holiday-sales/?category_id=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046
Fox. Reliable source.
I'll get over it.
It launched yesterday to no hitches.
It is 20 euros in Us and 20 dollars in EU, and 14 pounds in that planet called UK.
Come join us in the best FPS ever made.
As far as the article, no one was going to seriously buy this for the PC now anyway, they killed the game with no dedi and now are just being silly.
Yours in DX10 Gaming Plasma,
Star*Dagger
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18355113&postcount=3125
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K61IqkzJaTY&feature=player_embedded
here is a leaked video
Guess someone i dont like it going to get it for christmas now.
But from Activision's point, boiling everything down to a "Single Feature Parity SKU" probably looks nice on some balance sheet somewhere.
At least cross plattform play then? I mean, if you want to make it the identical experience on both plattforms, save for the control interface, then this an ideal title for that...
Battlefield Bad Company 2just got a huge Shot in the arm. They could capitalize huge on this one. But it's DICE under EA, and their track record is less then comforting. The irony is that not too long ago people would have easily believed that BC2 would make this changes before MW2.
People are still playing BF2 aren't they?! There are worse combinations...Infinity ward & Activision for starters!
Bad company 2 is £26.99 pre-order on Amazon, but it isn't out until March
Clicky
I agree, this reeks of Activision.
This game will just give IW more pirating statistics.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/11298736/ea-ceo-gearing-up-for-holiday-sales/?category_id=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046
I am not going to support a garbage company like infinty wards sorry
I honestly think they do. They've lost 25 sales from our LAN group so F'em. I'm not buying a consolized turd.
Holy crap, screw this game, my friends and I will stick with MW1 on the !!LAN!!
also the recaptcha i did to register was "farts commando"
DiCE aren't exactly shining examples of developers that make games for the players either. They repeatedly messed around with BF2 in ways they never needed to, gave up fixing game-breaking bugs (red tag glitch anyone?) and left players hanging for a final patch that was needed to add things that should have been years ago (widescreen and high res support)....
I WILL buy BF3 when it eventually shows it's face, but I dont have much faith in DiCE to make a stable, balanced game anymore.
As I really don't care about multiplayer, it's ok for me. And I don't have more than 10 friends anyway
as for the fact that PC gamers have a lot of hate? well quite frankly we've been treated pretty rough with the ammount of consilification that has happened. and it's ALOT. I can understand some of the reasons behind the decisions like delaying games, but really at the end of it we're just getting shafted.
it's kinda like the diablo 3 thing where it was becoming too colourful. PC gamers are like Diablo gamers. We're so hardcore we're ready to cut our own balls off to prove a point.
and yeah, MW2, i'm voting with my wallet and buying second hand :D
Except these complaints are actually justified, rather than fanboy whining like Diablo 3.
in multiplayer fps' developers usually limit the player cap as a design consideration. The original cap in the half life engine is 32 players if I remember correctly. Counter strike lowered this cap to 24 or 20 IIRC. Not because of technology but because of game design.
an 18 player cap is still pretty high and I've found that in most multiplayer fps after that lag becomes an issue OR games become steam rollers when a few good people work together on one side. If the developer thought an 18 player cap was alright I'm fine by it.
going back to the above while CS did have a high player cap, it wasn't all that fun to play with 20+ people it became a zoo. Same thing happened in BF2. I don't expect it to be any different here.
:(
Oh good thing I was worried that it was a port and that I was going to need to play it with my feet.
+1
I'll be joining you in that, hell I'll probably pirate it and never play it just to prove a point lol, I just spent £40 on the collector's edition of dragon age origins for 60-80 hours of gameplay, I'm preordering FFXIII for about £35 for about 80+ hours of gameplay, why should I pay £35 for 6-7 hours of gameplay? That's nonsense pricing :( At least I know I'm getting good games with dragon age and final fantasy and not getting screwed to the ground like COD4:MW2
I'm over being mad, now it's just hilarious to see them (IW) go !
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4236/chartnoscale8947150.jpg
And, the comment about ping:
2- You are welcomed to make a chart pointing to positive aspects of PC-MW2. Cant find any.
2. Stop being so ignorant for 5 minutes and you might manage it.
This is a direct quote from Robert Bowling, Infinity Ward's creative strategist during Eurogamer's hands-on :-
"We'll be playing every night, watching the lobbies, checking Twitter and hearing the feedback, as well as going directly to our community and just asking: what do you think? What do you want?"
"You can be sure we'll be focusing our attention on what people actually want."
They are taking the ****ing piss. Total marketing spin and fluff worthy of scumbag politician. I cancelled my pre-order and I'm going to phone everyone I know who may buy this game and offer to burn them a warez copy because developers who piss all over the community that has supported from day one deserve to go bankrupt.
Unfortunatley the world is full of plebs who will still buy this game and it will still be a massive success :(
Can you?
Sorry for the double post, but this is related to MW2.
D2D, Impulse and GamersGate refuse to sell MW2 due to the inclusion of SteamWorks:
http://kotaku.com/5398259/online-retailers-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2
I posted that comment when I had the "product page" for Modern Warfare 2 open in front of me in a separate window saying £34.99...
May be 60 Euros but he's right, it's £35 for us, not £53.
http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt290/portstorm/cod.jpg
This guy has the right idea
but.. in modern warfare are you seriously saying they built those maps for 64 players? That's bulls**t,
The Dev's have just got lazy and don't want to build the maps any bigger, it doesn't take long. just expand it out. and copy + paste a few more buildings and you will have at least 10k happy people. willing to buy this game! just because you took a extra 10 minutes into building the maps a bit bigger!,
8v8? WTF is going on here?, sure console games 8v8, maybe 20 people max for the xbox 360 , ps3 because they will run like crap if anymore people join, but PC come on? WTF is the point of playing a game with 9 players in?
Don't get me wrong but the best thing i like about COD4 is Team Death match with 40 people in it, Gives you a Challenge,
TBH. i don't think i will be buying this game anymore, not after all the **** they have ripped out of the PC version. just because they are lazy, this is a big down fall for PC. most gamers like alot of players in servers!
Still a day till release what else are they gonna rip out of it before it goes on sale?
Sorry but you have messed up a truly great game!
baddiE out!
if they dont want to make pc games whats the point of even starting it on PC?
why not just spend the money they used to produce this game to make the 360 / PS3 Version better with more functions than COD4? not take away functions!
They complain about not getting money from games.. but who the f**k is gonna buy a **** game?
insted of ripping out all the good features, and putting it some other shitty things, and then lowering the player cap,if they just redone MW but put in a few new game modes, new weapons, new perks, and maybe a new feature like maybe being able to run and slide or somthing, everyone would be happy!
baddiE
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/15/modern-warfare-2-hacked-to-reveal-dev-console-tweaks-etc/
MW 2 haked
Now, its not this blogs intention to post every little bit of gaming news (or is it?), but this is a more signal event than all the PR out there. Modern Warfare 2 for the PC, which infamously lacks dedicated servers, a console, the ability to kick players, and other things integral to a good PC game. Infinity Ward, maddeningly apathetic to the needs and requests of their users, has said that no changes to the stated areas are forthcoming.
Well, you cant keep a good PC gamer down. Certain cracks already allow some online play, and now the console has been enabled, allowing players to kick, change POV and FOV, and presumably do most of the stuff Infinity Ward decided had to stay in the cookie jar. Tut tut, developers. You didnt see this coming? You could have made it easier on yourselves, but instead you turned a whole segment of your market against you.
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