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Bill Roper: Diablo 3 isn't Diablo enough

Bill Roper: Diablo 3 isn't Diablo enough

Bill Roper, the producer of the original Diablo games, reckons the latest game has strayed from the original vision.

Diablo 3 is still a way from release, but the controversy over the game is still waging on in fan-circles, with many gamers claiming the latest title looks too bright and cartoony. That's something that Bill Roper, the producer of the original Diablo games, agrees with.

Roper used to work at Blizzard back when the company was divided into two studios and before the merger with Activision, before going off to start his own studio. He's generally credited as one of the primary forces behind the Diablo series, but lately seems unhappy with the new look sported by Diablo 3.

"I think that one of the things that we always tried to get across was that Diablo was Gothic fantasy and I think there was just a need that was put in there from the visuals that I didn't necessarily get," said Roper in a comment to Videogamer.com.

"I got it from the architecture and to a degree from the character design but not the feeling of the world. I can't say that I dislike it. I didn't look at it and go, oh my God that's horrible. But I looked at it and went, it's not really... to me as a player it just didn't really ring with Diablo."

The comments mirror worries often raised by fans of the first games, though whether or not Roper is the best judge of these things is perhaps a little questionable. His latest project, Hellgate: London proved to be neither successful, nor all that likeable.

What's your opinion on how Diablo 3 is shaping up? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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GFC 19th March 2009, 12:17 Quote
I personally never played D1, and i hated D2 at the time, but you know what? i bet i'll be slashing monsters in D3. Sometimes it's even better if it's not really the same as the original.
UrbanMarine 19th March 2009, 12:22 Quote
It's going to be another gaming masterpiece butchered. I really don't care for sequels anymore because they've all been ruined. I'm surprised they didn't try to make it an FPS/RPG like Fallout 3 and call it innovative.
Omnituens 19th March 2009, 12:24 Quote
I REALLY liked D2 - only thing that annoyed me was the font (5 and 6 were almost identical) and that was compounded by the 800x600 max res :(

D2 in D3 engine please... oh wait.... this seems to becoming a pattern for me.
Kúsař 19th March 2009, 12:24 Quote
I haven't seen D3 yet but I hope it won't look "cartoony or bright" like WoW. It definitely wouldn't fit any Diablo game...
Whalemeister 19th March 2009, 12:27 Quote
sounds like Fallout 3 all over again... Wait and see, then slag it off once you've played it or seen it running!
p3n 19th March 2009, 12:28 Quote
Hellgate: Cry more :p
hyperion 19th March 2009, 12:38 Quote
Roper is full of it. No **** D3 isn't "Diablo enough", but then neither was D2! And chapter 5 of D2, Harrogath, was simply a joke. Sure it was a great stage to play (not as good as Pandemonium Fortress though) but there wasn't a shred of the dark atmosphere of D1. They even replaced the necro with a shaman. Ridiculous...
Davey 19th March 2009, 13:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/03/19/diablo-3-isn-t-diablo-enough/1

Bill Roper, the designer of the original Diablo games, has called Blizzard out and said the latest game just doesn't look enough like the original.
Great gamers quickly saw through the haze created by AOE being repeated over and over again, and so they quit playing the game. And quit they did, way before AOE was allowed to become the dismal product that it stands for today. AOE advanced past fighting those older side scroller boss level games, where D1 just died out trying to revive side scroller boss strategies.
UrbanMarine 19th March 2009, 13:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Whalemeister
sounds like Fallout 3 all over again... Wait and see, then slag it off once you've played it or seen it running!

+10,000,000,000,000,000
wafflesomd 19th March 2009, 13:23 Quote
I vote for more opinions on the final game.

Oh wait, it's not out. STFU and wait to play it.
perplekks45 19th March 2009, 13:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd
I vote for more opinions on the final game.

Oh wait, it's not out. STFU and wait to play it.
Couldn't agree more.
Jamie 19th March 2009, 14:01 Quote
D3 is a new game, it's not supposed to be D2 mk 2. I wish people would stop moaning and just go back and play D2 if they want to play D2.
Vash-HT 19th March 2009, 14:41 Quote
Meh all his quote says is that he feels the game design strayed from a gothic medieval theme, but I would say that was msotly gone in D2 anyway. I did like D1 better than D2 anyway, I kind of agree with him I liked the atmosphere fromt he 1st game the best.
dyzophoria 19th March 2009, 16:21 Quote
I agree to wait for the final game, Blizzard is well know for not dissapointing a huge percentage of gamers (fans & non-fans alike). so Id just wait and see how the final game goes. even with the new trend of graphics on D3. Gameplay will still be the overall judge of the game in the end.
perplekks45 19th March 2009, 16:32 Quote
Given this a second thought and I think D3 will not be D1/D2 v2 and I agree with Jamie here, that's a good thing.

Although I have to agree with Vash as well, the gothic theme was gone in D2 already.
And I have to disagree with dyzophoria... if you don't like comic-style graphics you hate WoW. I hope they don't make D3 a cross of D2 and WoW.

God, I have a lot to say today... :|
Skiddywinks 19th March 2009, 17:06 Quote
I think it looks incredible. So long as the dark areas are dark and the bright areas are bright, who gives a crap? The gameplay looks better than ever!
hyperion 19th March 2009, 17:32 Quote
Wait for the game to come out... Right. Because there's actually a chance that blizzard will do something original.
Yemerich 19th March 2009, 21:48 Quote
I disagree... Totally. I played D1 and D2 and all spansions and i loved all. The only complain i had was the music for "lord of destruction" - what happened to matt Uelmen anyways?

Even with the cartoony like graphics (wich i only agree to a point because its 3d now, not sprite based anymore), Diablo is still Diablo! It still retains the 2.5d look and feel (to a degree), and did not ported to that &$%&%^ that Beth done with its out of date engine for FO3.

In the techincal side, have you ever saw a 3d graphic that didn't look at least a "bit" like a cartoon? And if its in the small proportions of Diablo, looks like its even harder.

When D1 was on every magazine (yes, back them the resource was magazines), everyone claimed to be the intellectual father of Diablo. No wonder why diablo was that mad! So many fathers....

Now this guy come back to scene just to say "mine was better". I just think this isn't exactly ectic.. It sounded more a "betrayed father" than someone that really cares.
dire_wolf 20th March 2009, 02:47 Quote
Total number of Blizzard games that have dissapointed me = 0

'Nuff said
docodine 20th March 2009, 03:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanMarine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whalemeister
sounds like Fallout 3 all over again... Wait and see, then slag it off once you've played it or seen it running!

+10,000,000,000,000,000

-10,000,000,000,000,000

FA3 was better than the previous two.

If D3 ends up bad, people will just go back to playing D2. Not a huge deal.
Horizon 20th March 2009, 04:48 Quote
After, watching the demo it looks like it just going to be a boring hack n' slash. Looks like God of War.
Nictron 20th March 2009, 07:18 Quote
Blizzard will not dissapoint!

I personally loved all the Diablo games and I will buy this one as well. It is practically impossible to please all of he fan base, period.

Diablo 3 will be epic and I can't wait got it's release.
frontline 20th March 2009, 07:58 Quote
Never played Fallout 1 or 2 but loved fallout 3. If it's a good game it doesn't matter how similar to the previous efforts it is.
naokaji 20th March 2009, 10:20 Quote
I hate wow with passion, so unlike others I can't say Blizzard never disappointed me.
Anyway, I bet Diablo 3 will be a great Game, even if it is not a exact copy of Diablo 1 or 2, like other said, Fallout 3 was not really a exact copy of the old ones either and turned out out great.
Yemerich 20th March 2009, 11:41 Quote
Ppl that think that FO3 is better than the previous ones prolly didn't play the previous ones when they came out. And if even so still think that way, it's because they didn't like them in the first place.

FO3 is shallow as a spit on the floor.

@ Dire Wolf: I agree! Since "rock 'n' roll racing" back in 90's I am a huge fan of them. I wonder what happened to Starcraft: Ghost....
UrbanMarine 20th March 2009, 11:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yemerich
Ppl that think that FO3 is better than the previous ones prolly didn't play the previous ones when they came out. And if even so still think that way, it's because they didn't like them in the first place.

FO3 is shallow as a spit on the floor.

Yes sir.

Seems to be the pattern these days.


Blizzard games: SC great, D1/D2 epic, WC 1/2/3 epic and WoW epic up until BC & WOTLK.
So3oL4Nu 3rd April 2009, 15:43 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by wafflesomd
I vote for more opinions on the final game.

Oh wait, it's not out. STFU and wait to play it.

I totally agree.

How can you say that this game is crap...it's alpha testing...alpha it's to much :D...

I wait for it !
thehippoz 3rd April 2009, 16:08 Quote
I was saying the same thing before the launch of warcraft 3.. looking at the screenshot you'd think it was a kids game.. but then playing it on battle.net, it was one of the best rts games I've played by far

this guy made hellgate.. what do you expect :D he likes his gargoyles
StoneyMahoney 1st November 2009, 12:10 Quote
This is nothing more than the criticism aimed at any new episode of a gaming franchise after a hiatus this long. As technology progresses the adopted graphical style for each game has to change to make appropriate use of current technology rather than trying to shoe-horn yesterdays look into today's engine, and nostalgia blinds people to the fact this isn't damage but perfectly naturally advancement.

From watching the preview, it's evident that there hasn't been any huge departure from the Diablo gameplay basics. It's not like Diablo 2 was a looker even when it first came out. If all people are moaning about is a slight change in colour palette and lighting, they should grow up and realize that graphics alone do not make a game.
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