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Gears of War PC certificate expires

Gears of War PC certificate expires

Gears of War PC is currently unplayable because of an expired digital certificate in Games for Windows Live.

If you’ve tried to play a copy of Gears of War PC today then you’ve probably noticed that something isn’t quite right – namely that the game doesn’t work.

The reason for this is apparently a certificate problem caused by the ever-popular Games for Windows Live service.

Players who attempted to start the game recently found themselves with a error which reads that “This certificate has expired or is not yet valid” – which is both vague and unhelpful.

The good news though is that posters on the Epic forum have quickly found a workaround and discovered that the errors can be avoided if you reset you system clocks back to before the certificate apparently expired, so not being able to play Gears of War on the PC isn’t the end of the world.

Epic meanwhile have said that they are aware of the problem and are currently working with Microsoft to fix it so that gamers can get back to playing Gears of War PC as fast as possible.

You can find out more about how Games for Windows Live works with this game in our full Gears of War PC review. You can also read about why Gears of War 2 will never be ported to the PC.

Have you ever had problems with Games for Windows Live? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Burnout21 30th January 2009, 11:30 Quote
Epic Failure! This is why modern anti-pirating methods need revising.
pistol_pete 30th January 2009, 11:36 Quote
Surely someone should have seen this coming and sorted it out?
Goty 30th January 2009, 11:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by pistol_pete
Surely someone should have seen this coming and sorted it out?

Like MS saw the Zune problem coming? Come on, man, that would require forethought! That's just not Microsoft's style.
biebiep 30th January 2009, 11:41 Quote
Have you ever had problems with Games for Windows Live? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

What? Other than the obvious crashes on my system and the non-existent extra benefits it offers?
impar 30th January 2009, 11:43 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Article
Have you ever had problems with Games for Windows Live? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
So far have successfully avoided GFWL.
Pity about Operation Anchorage, though.
perplekks45 30th January 2009, 11:52 Quote
Apparently someone at either MS or Epic thought nobody would ever touch the game again after 1 year so the certificate got signed for exactly that time period. Signed certificates and MS are always fun. I still remember as if it was yesterday:

"Dear MS,

we found out that under Office 2k7 meta content is not encrypted when you digitally sign a document and can be manipulated by any third party.
Also the little red ribbon you use to indicate a digital signature doesn't change or show it in any way when the certificate is made invalid/expires.
Please tell us what you think about that."

Answer:

"Works as intended."

Riiiiiight....
wuyanxu 30th January 2009, 12:04 Quote
first Zune freezing, now Gears doesn't work??

my god, i think i should switch OS, Vista may someday stuck in an infinite loop.
oh, wait, it always gets stuck
zimbloggy 30th January 2009, 12:15 Quote
You should stop playing them violent video games or you will go out and murder somebody! Thank goodness for microsoft's incompetence!
Phil Rhodes 30th January 2009, 12:29 Quote
Ain't I bin' sayin' it?

Ain't I bin' sayin' it?!

But seriously - I find it richly ironic that not only has my prediction come exactly to pass, but the workaround is childishly basic!
digitaldave 30th January 2009, 13:01 Quote
your anti virus client relies on your system clock as do other system critical apps, don't change back your system clock!!!!

DD
Veles 30th January 2009, 13:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by pistol_pete
Surely someone should have seen this coming and sorted it out?

This is Epic we're talking about, the people who made a complete mess of GoW2 multiplayer and still haven't fixed all the lag issues.
Flexible_Lorry 30th January 2009, 13:43 Quote
how about they can windows live
DougEdey 30th January 2009, 13:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
This is Epic we're talking about, the people who made a complete mess of GoW2 multiplayer and still haven't fixed all the lag issues.

I still haven't played that in over a month!
Redbeaver 30th January 2009, 15:15 Quote
no issues on pirated games there. just sayin.
Singularity 30th January 2009, 15:59 Quote
So those three people that play it every day can't play it today? Such a shame... [/******* mode OFF]

But, yeah, I agree that this is a totally stupid bug, serving no purpose than irritating customers and proving once again that Epic doesn't really give a ****
Jordan Wise 30th January 2009, 16:26 Quote
surprised i'm the first but ...... Epic Fail
Jordan Wise 30th January 2009, 16:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jordan Wise
surprised i'm the first but ...... Epic Fail

ed oh no, i wasn't, missed that :D
azrael- 30th January 2009, 19:44 Quote
Should have read:

Epic! Fail! Again! :)
johnmustrule 30th January 2009, 21:33 Quote
Steam is also a culprit sometimes, telling me I can't play any of my games because the servers are too busy, sometimes blocking me out for hours. This includes singleplayer games like HL2.
wuyanxu 30th January 2009, 23:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by azrael-
Should have read:

Epic! Fail! Again! :)
it's the 4th time now:
Epic Fail: UT3
Epic Fail again: saying PC gaming is dead
Epic Fail again x2: Gears of lag 2 (or whatever they call it)
Epic Fail so-many-times: this
Volund 31st January 2009, 00:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by johnmustrule
Steam is also a culprit sometimes, telling me I can't play any of my games because the servers are too busy, sometimes blocking me out for hours. This includes singleplayer games like HL2.

try running them in offline mode

stupid people at the companies tho :'(
eternum 31st January 2009, 00:16 Quote
Well, the first time their GFWL "save" system lost my saves for GoW I was pissed (especially since I could find them myself right there in a directory, but the game was unable to see them), then when it happened the second time I was even more pissed but luckily found a workaround (seriously - still not fixed? tards....). And now this? I'm glad I finished the lackluster game months ago and removed the thing from my hard drive - never to return. Bleh - I understand computer technology is getting more complex, but shouldn't the people working with it become a little more savvy to keep pace? Or at least hire some monkey just out of college and pay them minimum wage to at least go over BASIC FRAMEWORK to make sure things keep working?

It's like a professional race car driver who ends up killing the engine in his fancy top of the line off-the-track sports car because he never checked or changed the oil. Yeah, he knows how to drive really well, and he normally has people who handle such things on the track - but he should have enough knowledge of the basic workings to keep something so simple from screwing things up.
/overwrought analogy

Hey Epic and MS! Hire a goddamn intern, each of you. MS, have them f***ing call your clients when a certificate is about to expire! Epic, have yours check on routine basic crap like this so that you might know about it, oh I dunno - BEFORE it happens? maybe? Oh and have your intern bug the code-monkeys to actually bother to fix one of the most major flaws possible in a game. Right in line behind constant crashing would be losing save games. A few people might be willing to play through your samey predictable shoot 'em up several times just to be able to finally finish it, but most aren't - certainly not me. And this is from someone who replayed Doom 3. Yeah..... so... there!

...wow - retained a bit of bitterness there, didn't I? :p
spectre456 31st January 2009, 00:58 Quote
i was surprised to hear that people actually still played that game on the pc. i couldn't see what the big deal was when i played it.
wafflesomd 31st January 2009, 02:00 Quote
It was a great game on pc despite the bugs. They did try and fix a few.

Too bad it was a complete failure thanks to GFWL.

I see a trend here....
Xir 3rd February 2009, 11:43 Quote
Did they fix it yet?

Personally, I found the game very disappointing and deleted it after a mere hour or two of play...
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