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HL2: Ep 3 won't feature City 17

HL2: Ep 3 won't feature City 17

Half-Life Episode 2 has suffered significant delays, but hopefully the next installment will be out quicker.

We know, we know, Half-Life 2: Episode Two is taking forever, but it finally seems as if an end is within sight. Valve's Doug Lombardi recently confirmed to Eurogamer that not only is Half-Life 2: Episode Two ahead of its (delayed) schedule, but that Episode Three will not feature City 17 as a setting.

"Pre-production is definitely going, and it'll be ramping up rather quickly now that they're ramping down on Episode Two," Lombard revealed, "There's a "skeleton crew" doing the work."

Although Lombardi didn't want to spoil the ending, there are numerous rumours that Episode Three will finish with a climatic battle in the Artic station where Dr. Judith Mossman was spotted in the first episode.

Which would make sense given that the behind-the-scenes book, Raising The Bar, shows that the original plan for the Half-Life 2 storyline was much more epic and had the silent protagonist hopping to battles in numerous locations. It was just one part of the numerous cuts made in the game, which included enemies, characters, plotlines and an over all darker theme.

One of the planned areas mentioned in the book was at an Arctic research station and aboard a stranded icebreaker ship. Interestingly, a character named Odell was originally supposed to appear in the Arctic section, but when his character was cut the model was recycled and appears as Colonel Cubbage, the English commander who first gives Gordon his first rocket launcher in the game.

"I don't think you'll head back to City 17, for sure," Lombardi said in response to questions, adding dramatically; "Not in Episode Three, anyway."

Truly hardcore Half-Life fans may want to look up the Missing Information mod that regenerates much of the deleted content based on information from the various pre-release leaks of the game, though Valve don't approve of the attempts and deem it to be illegal content.

Looking forward to the continuing adventures of Gordon Freeman, or annoyed about continual delays? Maybe you've got a rumour to share or some missing information of your own? Whatever the case, get to the forums and let the speculation begin!

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DougEdey 18th May 2007, 11:08 Quote
Wasn't C17 destroyed completely for once at the end of ep1?
Paradigm Shifter 18th May 2007, 11:24 Quote
I bet that despite being 'ahead of schedule' it still won't have it's release date pulled forward. And they'll get Ep 3 out of the door faster? Why am I dubious? :)
CardJoe 18th May 2007, 11:39 Quote
Sure, it was destroyed but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be re-entering the ruins of the citadel to look for info/equipment relating to breen, which is what seemed logical to me
riggs 18th May 2007, 13:18 Quote
Right, I've still not played Ep1 properly - I started it, but then heard about the Source multi-core update and thought I'd wait (where is that damn update anyway!?).

Ep3 sounds interesting though...
CardJoe 18th May 2007, 13:34 Quote
Pfft, just play it. If you wait for Valve, you'll wait forever.
DXR_13KE 18th May 2007, 14:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Pfft, just play it. If you wait for Valve, you'll wait forever.
so true :)
L2wis 18th May 2007, 15:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Pfft, just play it. If you wait for Valve, you'll wait forever.

lol, i've been waiting forever for tfc2
OtakuHawk 18th May 2007, 17:35 Quote
I'm waiting for portals. Dystopian puzzle fps for the win.

anyway.
CardJoe 18th May 2007, 17:55 Quote
I'm starting to think Portals won't be too good. It will have to have a LOT of atmosphere to balance out what is said to be an incredibly short game that a FPS n00b (a testers mum) finished in under four hours. For a gamer like me that means I'm getting two hours of gameplay.

Which is fine, I'd have that for free or for a small fee, but I don't think that the rest of the episode should be made to wait because of it. Even Narbacular Drop, which the idea Portal was based on, wasn't that fun.
LeMaltor 18th May 2007, 18:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by L2wis
lol, i've been waiting forever for tfc2

http://www.fortress-forever.com/
Breach 18th May 2007, 18:22 Quote
I think that basically means, we're going back to Zen baby!

Cant wait regardless, I love Half Life
r4tch3t 19th May 2007, 02:25 Quote
I really should play half life aye? Damn not having a gaming computer right now.
Charles1 19th May 2007, 06:21 Quote
Zen ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
xrain 19th May 2007, 07:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by L2wis
lol, i've been waiting forever for tfc2

L2wis.Waits.For.TF2.com :o
Fyberwire 19th May 2007, 08:55 Quote
I honestly will not play a game if they go back to Xen. Unless it's VERY good. Xen in the first half life SUCKED. The levels were terrible, abysmal, horrible jumping puzzles that literally made no sense.

Opposing Force did it better, basically just having Xen as a quick cameo with the Displacer and a few of the other plot points in the game.

I really don't like the whole "installment" strategy. Come on. Give me a game every few DirectX revisions that literally blows me away. Half Life 2 was almost perfect, and i think the super gravity gun level was one of the most fun levels I've ever played in any game, ever. I think I was grinning from about when I got my new gravity gun to the point at which I finished the game.
dragon2309 20th May 2007, 22:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fyberwire
I honestly will not play a game if they go back to Xen. Unless it's VERY good. Xen in the first half life SUCKED. The levels were terrible, abysmal, horrible jumping puzzles that literally made no sense.
I have to agree with that, HL1 wasn't a great game in general, and was slightly overhyped for what it gave to you in the end. However HL2 is alot better and revisiting Xen in an episode might not be a real bad thing. HL2 has a much sturdier base to explore on, HL1 was kinda... weak, what im trying to say is HL2:EP2 and 3 have a broad area to explore within and if pulled off right by valve could make a very interesting game

Don't write it off right away, i think it could be good.

Anyway, EP2 needs to hurry the hell up, ahead of schedule, pft, its a pity they are already a million years behind schedule, i've been waiting ages for this.

dragon2309
completemadness 20th May 2007, 23:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fyberwire
I really don't like the whole "installment" strategy. Come on. Give me a game every few DirectX revisions that literally blows me away. Half Life 2 was almost perfect, and i think the super gravity gun level was one of the most fun levels I've ever played in any game, ever. I think I was grinning from about when I got my new gravity gun to the point at which I finished the game.
ha ha i know what you mean, the only bad bit about it is that bit of the game is a bit short, you can complete city 17 in about 15 Min's
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