GameStop not selling Dawn of War 2 anymore

Sounds like a "toys out of the pram" moment to me.

Steam > *

does gamestop have their own online distribution platform? if not, then I see it as a good move. even if the software is good, I still think it's better not to have required additional software installed with games (a sort of Occam's razor for PC gaming - "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity" ).

I'm not sure about GS's actions, it's understandable I suppose not to sell customers your own competition, but I don't see why Steam should be a necessary install for DoW in the first place! So this also means no internet connection = no game?

What I don't get is how that'll help their problems with Steam - it's here to stay, and they have to price competitively in order to avoid being cut out of the market. All they're doing by not selling DoW2 is forcing their usually loyal customers to source it elsewhere. Probably through Steam, to be accompanied by the thought "Bloody GameStop, I'll just buy it on Steam next time..."

Are they also not selling other games that require Steam like all Valve games?

Steam is rather overpriced for my liking its £35 to download and I dont get a box or a manual to read whilst I'm on the toilet.

Pre ordered mine from play for £25 with some free unlock code or some such.

And another wrench into the system.

Originally Posted by Blademrk
Sounds like a "toys out of the pram" moment to me.

Totally agree!! So does this mean that they didn't sell Half Life 2 as it requires Steam??? What ever happened to the saying "the customer is always right"?

Whoever made this decision needs to be placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds until they see the error in their ways!!! People who want to play this game (and let's face it, it's a pretty big title!) are going to get it weather GameStop stock it or not so they will lose out on this revenue.

Then these disgruntled customers will have Steam installed anyway and they'll probably remember that their former favorite shop wouldn't sell them the game that they really wanted and be understandably dissapointed and feeling let down, end result - they start looking elsewhere.

\rant over ;)

Who cares, they're just shooting themselves in the foot. Brick and mortar stores are dead.

Although, Steam is dead in Europe too.. I guess we should just go and collect stamps or something instead.

Originally Posted by bowman
Although, Steam is dead in Europe too.. I guess we should just go and collect stamps or something instead.

Steam is dead in Europe? I'd disagree. I don't remember buying a single game in a retail store in the last two years - all my game purchases were over steam...

I never play DoW so I wouldn't know, but if it is popular online then I can see Steam being a valuable tool for setting up matches and online play.

Steam does need to get its prices sorted out. Games are usually priced higher than the boxed counterpart which makes no sense at all. I have bought most of my recent games from steam but I usually wait for them to go on sale. The regional pricing system seems to have made UK prices better but euro prices much worse.

valve has a offline play they have used for hl2 they may have to open this up for games like DOW so people with no internet can use single player in games. that said its a free market and if gamestop can't take the heat get out of the kitchen

Originally Posted by pizan
I never play DoW so I wouldn't know, but if it is popular online then I can see Steam being a valuable tool for setting up matches and online play.

But in a preview on the esteemed bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2009/01/07/games-to-watch-in-2009/6) it was stated that this would use Games for Windows Live to access online play... is that not the case any more?

I wouldn't have a problem with steam if it were intelligently managed, the games on steam should be at most 1/2 the cost of retail games, and never under any circumstances more. After all you do not get a box, a disc, a manual any marketing a free code for your friends to try online, or any of the items usually found in a retail package, steam is basically the OEM of software in my opinion and it should be priced as such.

But it isn't, as often as not the software is at full retail price and you have nothing to show for it except more bloatware on your computer a pdf manual, and a multi hour wait for a download prior to even being able to install it, where is the advantage? If I don't want to leave the house and I want a game there is this wonderful invention known as shipping, I will grant you, its a new concept it seems, cause the people at steam appear to have never heard of it......

if I next day air a package I will have spent no more then what I had for steam and waited very little to no longer depending on game size and download speed.
I say very little because you have to pay a 3rd party for internet access in order to even use it, so your at $40 for your internet, $40-50 for your game, and many hours of waiting to just be able to install it that your computer has to be left on for, all of this is of course prior to the isp's putting a download cap on the internet, after that you might get 1-2 games per month downloaded and manage to stay under your limit.

I am not saying steam is a bad thing, I am just saying they should not charge what a retail store can for less product, just for the illusion of convenience.
Not to mention there is the fact that if you format your computer you have to sit through the entire download process again, or if you go to a lan party without internet access you cannot even play the game that you paid for.

All of this = the extreme lame.

I'm sure if the masses downloaded games via steam the price would plummet. Unfortunately this is still a very new delivery system and people are slow in the uptake. I'm sure someone can correct me here, but there was an article which suggested digital Distribution only accounts for 6% of all PC game sells. When more people switch to this method, the prices will become more competative and eventually surpass the retail box system.
Currently though people still like their games to come in the bling format. :D

Originally Posted by 53rdcard
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I see what you're saying, but disagree in part.

The games shouldn't be half the price of a retail copy, or even significantly less, they should match the prices available on the web (or rather, be £2 or so less, which is more than the cost of box+disc+manual etc).

The trouble is that people will pay high-street retail for games, play.com might sell shitloads, but so do Game and Gamestation and HMV etc in this country, and they sell for ~RRP. Steam is the same attitude - sell it to the people who will pay RRP just to get it, and hang the cost.

interesting, seems GameStop doesnt sell Sins on a Solar Empire too. Must be because of Impulse.

I really hope more people get onto Steam because Dawn of War 2 though. GameStop is horridly ran and deserves to crash down like Circuit City and be replaced by Play and Trade and the many other smaller game retailers.

God I hope this is true.

Well that gotta suck then for those who wanted to Play Dawn Of War 2 because i have some friends that wanted to be the tyranids in Dawn Of War 2 Sigh hes going to kill me XD when i tell him that is.:(

Originally Posted by Dark_Master_Dragon
Well that gotta suck then for those who wanted to Play Dawn Of War 2 because i have some friends that wanted to be the tyranids in Dawn Of War 2 Sigh hes going to kill me XD when i tell him that is.:(

Does your friend only shop at gamestop? That would be kinda strange.

Originally Posted by Vash-HT
Does your friend only shop at gamestop? That would be kinda strange.

They Usally go to EB game stores or Best Buy funny i dont mind though im not a huge Fan of DOW

Originally Posted by Tyrmot
But in a preview on the esteemed bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2009/01/07/games-to-watch-in-2009/6) it was stated that this would use Games for Windows Live to access online play... is that not the case any more?

It'll be GFW run through Steam, as with Fallout 3 and GTA IV PC.

I find that Steam does offer some great deals. Their holiday special offered a ton of games for 50 to 75 percent off their normal price. I bought bioshock for 5 dollars and similar games in packages for far less than I would have if I had gone out to a store to purchase them. Though I understand the loss people may feel with the lack of a manual, I find that I enjoy the relief of not having to worry about putting in a CD or worrying about scratches that I might incur over time of use.

Better Steam than some horrible securom restricted installs+activation protection.

Prehaps they stopped selling DoW2 because they didnt like the inability to build structures and bases ;)