The Church of England is now demanding that Resistance be considered ineligible for a BAFTA.

The Church of England is now demanding that Resistance be considered ineligible for a BAFTA.

Games are good, games are bad - it seems to me that The Church needs to decide how it really feels about computer games. The same day that Halo 3 is being touted as an excellent way to attract young church-goers, The Church of England is kicking up more of a fuss over Resistance: Fall of Man.

It's been a while since we heard from The Church of England, which had publicly objected to Sony allowing Manchester Cathedral to feature as a level in the PlayStation 3 title, Resistance. The last we heard The Dean of Manchester Cathedral had enlisted Tony Blair to tell Sony off.

Today though, The Church has piped up and demanded that Resistance be removed from the BAFTA nominations list.

"It is a disgrace that Resistance: Fall of Man has been shortlisted... Sony has admitted that they did not have permission to film or use Manchester Cathedral in their computer game... BAFTA should not be seen condoning such behaviour unless they are saying it is acceptable for producers to walk into historic buildings and film interiors - ignoring contracts, rights and liability." Said The Church, via BBC News

"(The Dean) then called on Sony to abide by new 'sacred digital guidelines' as he feared other buildings would be cloned for 'virtual desecration'"

All this even after Sony apologised publicly. Is The Church asking too much, or are they right to keep kicking up a fuss? Let us know what you think in the forums.
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Quote mmorgue 8th October 2007, 11:00
Sigh... A church is a public place. The game is fictional and completely made up, much like the religion the cathedral represents :) Neither is a direct representation of the other. The "made up video game" has a section that merely takes place in/around the cathedral. How would that, in any way, impact the religious nature of the cathedral? No one is hurt, repressed or demeaned. The game hasn't said, "Down with Christianity" or anything like that.
Quote Raiderfan001 8th October 2007, 11:18
I think more game makers should incorporate the Manchester Cathedral into their games just to spite them....lol
Quote D3s3rt_F0x 8th October 2007, 11:54
It is a disgrace this game got into the BAFTA's its an average shooter at best mmmkay.

The Church are obviously protesting to mirror my feelings.
Quote whisperwolf 8th October 2007, 11:56
Not this discussion again, can we not just link the 5 to 10 zillion threads we had about this last time, doubt that the arguments will have changed much since then.
One side: it's a public place and the game is fiction, author/designer is not saying anything about god just using it as a background, if it was a book they could use any setting they want and an occasional smug anti religious quip thrown in for good measure.
second side: not a public place owned by the church, if it had been a film it would have required permission to film how can taking lots of digital pictures and then rendering it for a game be any different, use of cathedral could give out the incorrect message that the cathedral (in a high gun crime area) thinks guns are cool and acceptable. Defensive arguments about religion thrown in.

how’s that for a summary
Quote mikeuk2004 8th October 2007, 12:11
Next time im in Manchester, i want to film this place and then edit it blowing up with people inside running out on fire.
Quote sub routine 8th October 2007, 15:11
ok ok, I can understand that you can`t just go about doing what you wnat whenever you want. But the church seems to be milking it a bit to me, I could almost guarentee that Sony doesn`t have a vendetta with Christians (you never know though) and want to destroy the church. An open apology should denote that it has more than likely been a design oversight. I mena someone probably decided an atmospheric beautifully created surrounding would complement the game, which I suppose would be a complement to the church and it`s archietectural design. Thats my opinion anyway.
I haven`t played the game yet, mainly because Sony are bandits who haven`t really respected the European gamer IMO (until now that is) £299 ) Drool).
Quote completemadness 8th October 2007, 17:47
I don't see how your not allowed to do this ...

i mean, in Britain you have no right to conceal your face (or do anything if anyone takes a picture of you) why is a building any different?
Gotta love how buildings have more rights then people .....
Quote Neat69 8th October 2007, 19:11
You know BAFTA's for video games are BS when somthing as mediocre as Resistance make ths short list.

Ahh.. checked and its only nominated for: THE PC WORLD GAMERS AWARD, which sounds like BS anyway :)

Strangley, alot of the games that are shortlisted ar not out yet: http://www.bafta.org/site/page413.html
Quote themax 8th October 2007, 19:21
Basically, with 1.7 million copies sold the Church of England is still crying for a cut of the pie.
Quote E.E.L. Ambiense 8th October 2007, 19:59
All I keep hearin' is "whaaaaaa...". I mean, come on! They have to be, at this point, the only church in the world that's both been in a cool console game AND sharing a name with an AMD Athlon 64 core! :)
Quote DXR_13KE 8th October 2007, 21:35
i consider this game a YAGS or Yet Another Generic Shooter... it has nothing that i consider that superior to any other game...... except for the part of using ww2 weapons against an alien invasion, and happening at the time of WW2..... braking the trend of yet another ww2 shooter, the cow is becoming tired of being milked....
Quote AcidJiles 16th October 2007, 19:08
i might buy a copy of the game and give it as a donation to the church during communion
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