bit-tech.net | Xbox 360 Elite gets a European price

DougEdey 21st August 2007, 11:14

And they charge you out the bumhole for a 120GB HDD. £130!

mmorgue 21st August 2007, 11:42

You forgot the black paint as well!

mikeuk2004 21st August 2007, 12:22

I wanna know wheres the White 120GB hard drive????

All I have seen is a Black one, and if the only black console (Elite) already comes with one, why did they do the upgrade one black and not white??

I want a white one to match my white console. Black will make it pugly.

skpstr 21st August 2007, 12:32

Does anyone know if it will be using the 65nm Falcon board? I'm assuming the new heatsink arrangement will be a given.

DXR_13KE 21st August 2007, 12:53

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Originally Posted by skpstr
Does anyone know if it will be using the 65nm Falcon board? I'm assuming the new heatsink arrangement will be a given.

i think its a no on the Falcon board...

WAKE UP MS!!!!!!!!

_DTM2000_ 21st August 2007, 14:11

I'm glad MS have finally lowered the prices across range, I'm now very tempted to pick up an elite later in the year but I still won't bother until I can get one with the 65nm process.

skpstr 21st August 2007, 14:20

Same here. The problem is going to be how to identify that you are actually getting the 65nm based device. Does anyone know? I'm sure I read somewhere that any manufactured from July will be, but I'm not 100% sure of the date. I must try and find the article again.

Edit:
Found it on Xbox.com. It's a forum thread so the source can't be confirmed. (Link)

completemadness 21st August 2007, 17:45

£250 but it will still overheat and melt down ? no thanks

devdevil85 21st August 2007, 18:06

/\ I hear you, and they continue to upgrade the console every other week which would only make you think twice about your purchase the week after. They need to try and put as much into the console as possible upfront (65nm maybe?) especially on the EU/UK launched units, just like you would think any other console manufacturer would do, but then again technology is progressing like wildfire, so it makes sense that they are doing the upgrade thing, but why so often? anyways that's my 2 cents.....

johnnyboy700 21st August 2007, 20:55

Maybe some kind retailer will follow the example that Scan did with the Go Step Q6600 CPU's and gurantee a 65nm for those that want one. The sad thing is though that it would probably mean that they would be left with the older models that they can't shift.

I would seriously consider buying one though, I can see the appeal of simply turning on one box, flinging in your game of choice and it works straight away, no worries about hardware compatability, driver updates or games so full of bugs you need to patch it a couple of times to get it to even run. Besides it keeps my younger relatives busy without letting them loose on my PC.

You do get the drawbacks that go with something that is hardware locked and can't be upgraded but as long as the initial spec is pretty good the games will still be acceptable.

mclean007 21st August 2007, 21:09

Why the heck haven't they put integrated HD-DVD in the Elite? Or at least manufactured all Elites on a 65nm process with the overheating problem sorted? Seriously, now the Prem has HDMI all you get is a black paint job and a bigger HDD? I know the price is nice and all, but what's the point?!

DougEdey 21st August 2007, 21:15

The HD-DVD problem is because they can't currently be BIOS locked.

Veles 21st August 2007, 21:38

I might consider upgrading to an elite actually, trade in my probably soon to have a dead laser 360 in, and for £30 more than a 120Gb HDD I'd get a brand new console. Never considered it before, since HDMI didn't interest me, but I might if I want to go for the 120Gb HDD.

crazyg1zm0 21st August 2007, 22:00

Is it going to be HDMI only or will it have component as well??

Tim S 21st August 2007, 22:05

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Originally Posted by crazyg1zm0
Is it going to be HDMI only or will it have component as well??

I believe it's got HDMI and Component. :)

DougEdey 21st August 2007, 22:09

It's just a digital decoding chip. The standard cables work.

Veles 21st August 2007, 22:36

Oh, thats what I was gonna ask, anyone know if this comes with a HDD transfer doohicky?

DougEdey 21st August 2007, 22:48

If it's like the US, you have to request one FOC

Iago 22nd August 2007, 10:17

By the way...no love for the new Arcade SKU (formerly known as Core)?

It sports HDMI, Wireless controllers, 5 XBLM games and a 256 Memory card. So, if gaming is all you are interested it has everything you may need. And it matches the Wii price point (+- 250â¬). You may not be able to store every demo on XBLM, but it's not like we Europeans can rent HD films yet (not until 2008 at least).

For the first time since launch, MS has turned the Core into an interesting proposal value-wise. With Bioshock out and Mass Effect and Too Human coming, the 250â¬ price may be enough to push me to one to complement my PS3.

naokaji 22nd August 2007, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iago
By the way...no love for the new Arcade SKU (formerly known as Core)?

It sports HDMI, Wireless controllers, 5 XBLM games and a 256 Memory card. So, if gaming is all you are interested it has everything you may need. And it matches the Wii price point (+- 250â¬). You may not be able to store every demo on XBLM, but it's not like we Europeans can rent HD films yet (not until 2008 at least).

For the first time since launch, MS has turned the Core into an interesting proposal value-wise. With Bioshock out and Mass Effect and Too Human coming, the 250â¬ price may be enough to push me to one to complement my PS3.

the small hdd sizes in consoles restrict that possibility anyway....

mclean007 22nd August 2007, 12:10

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Originally Posted by DougEdey
The HD-DVD problem is because they can't currently be BIOS locked.

Hi Doug - can you please explain? I don't understand what this means!

DougEdey 22nd August 2007, 12:13

Basically the reason why it's been so hard to crack the 360 is that the firmware on the DVD drives is locked with a custom BIOS/Firmware revision. This means that there's no way to easily circumvent it, it has to be reflashed. So the games can be played from backups. The only thing is that games can be region locked on the DVD Bios but not on the HDDVD one easily.

K 22nd August 2007, 12:36

I'm gonna get an Elite with my first Apple paycheque because I am an utter consumerist whore. Although I do wish it had 65nm and integrated wifi. Wifi is the real kicker, considering how it's included in EVERY other console currently out (unless you count the PS2).

fluxity 23rd August 2007, 23:27

20GB is more than enough for me so i won't be getting an Elite. My bro is looking to get a Premium a little after the Elite release assuming they will go down in price. Does anyone know what they will retail at? (UK)

With the HDD transfer thing, the standalone HDD comes with a cable and disc. The Elite doesn't, so u have to ring up and ask for one if ur upgrading from a premium.

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