The Halo-like suit that makes Robocop look like a girl.

The Halo-like suit that makes Robocop look like a girl.

Since I was a wee nipper I've always dreamed of becoming a walking tank. It was a dream I never thought would become reality, that was until I saw the 'Trojan' full body armour suit.

This new, military-standard suit, designed by a Canadian inventor called Troy Hurtubise, is pretty spectacular. Not only does it look almost identical to the suit worn by Halo hero, Master Chief, but it performs many of the same functions.

For starters, the suit is effective against knife, blunt melee, bullet and explosive attacks. So well designed is the suit that Hurtubise also claims it can protect the wearer from a shot from an elephant gun. For those who don't know, an elephant gun is one designed to have enough stopping power to fell an elephant. This armour is therefore, pretty effective.

Those aren't its only features. Alongoside the magnetic gun holsters, the suit has emergency compartments for morphine and salt injections in an emergency, as well as an emergency light and a knife. The helmet contains an air filtration system powered by solar panels as well as a tube hook-up so soldiers can easily get to water. The whole suit cost $15,000 to design and will cost $2,000 a piece to produce. The inventor hopes the 18 KG weight will be light enough to make the suit practical for all environments, and hopes to see Coalition troops using it out in Iraq.

The designer of the suit is famed for his work on Project Grizzly. Hurtubise recorded a film-come-documentary as he trialled a suit that he hoped would protect him from bears, an extract taken from Wikipedia describes some of the scenarios the inventor placed himself in:

"Hurtubise approached a tall, heavy biker and his colleagues, and paid them to attack him while wearing the suit, with baseball bats, splitting mauls, and wooden two by fours. The suit survived, as did Hurtubise, while the weapons were reduced to splinters. Other tests included an impact by a swinging 300-pound log, a feat that the Ripley's Believe It or Not television program later attempted with a BMW, as well as tossing him down the side of an escarpment."

There is no word on how the new, military-grade suit would cope with toilet or cigarette breaks as of yet. Our only hope is that the suit's built in voice unit makes soldiers sound like Darth Vader. We consider that an absolute must.

Think these suits will catch on, or is it all just an elaborate hoax? Let us know your thoughts in the forum.
Quote Idioteque 15th January 2007, 13:36
Just raise $2000 and get one...

I'd think this needs a bit of a redesign before any military force would put this into action... but $2000 is a small cost for them so I can assume they'd snatch these up.

I'm really wondering how it withstood a shot from an elephant gun though... them things be penetrative... myabe an anti-tank gun test next?
Quote will. 15th January 2007, 13:48
How is this possibly serious :p

hahhaa, what a tool, the us army would never pay him, they would just steal his idea, assasinate him and his family and claim that they died from fatal accidents caused by small metal projectiles.
Quote overdosedelusion 15th January 2007, 14:24
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Originally Posted by will.
How is this possibly serious :p

hahhaa, what a tool, the us army would never pay him, they would just steal his idea, assasinate him and his family and claim that they died from fatal accidents caused by small metal projectiles.

[stereotyping]All they would have to do is shoot two black people and drag them to the crime scene

"drug deal gone bad. case solved"[/stereotyping]

[EDIT]

On a side note, if he's willing to do a live test with an elephant gun, he'd better make sure his "major joints" are covered, those things will likely blow the limb off :O that wouldn't be very good for awareness of it's "military capabilities"
Quote walle 15th January 2007, 15:10
The modern version of the armour used by medieval knights, history repeats itself it seems. hmm...add an armoured horse and an updated version of the medieval lance to complete the picture :D
Quote Springs 15th January 2007, 15:36
that looks great.... would be great if that did come into service... just think a squad outfitted with this walking down the main roads of iraq.. everyone would be running and the iraqi soldiers would just be surrendering :D

would love one of these... would wear it all the time :D
Quote <A88> 15th January 2007, 15:40
18Kg?! I'm not sure I weigh that much...

<A88>
Quote overdosedelusion 15th January 2007, 16:13
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Originally Posted by <A88>
18Kg?! I'm not sure I weigh that much...

<A88>

18KG is roughly equivelent to 36 pounds, so yes, you do weight that much :p

I think the normal upper body armour, has about a 25 lbs of weight, so it could be used, but stamina would definately decrease
Quote Snafu-X- 15th January 2007, 16:20
Probably not practical in it's current incarnation for true field use. If they took it and really worked on refining it though, I could see it give the next gen of troops an edge.
Quote Nexxo 15th January 2007, 16:30
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Originally Posted by walle
The modern version of the armour used by medieval knights, history repeats itself it seems. hmm...add an armoured horse and an updated version of the medieval lance to complete the picture :D
Tanks and missiles? ;)
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Originally Posted by Springs
that looks great.... would be great if that did come into service... just think a squad outfitted with this walking down the main roads of iraq.. everyone would be running and the iraqi soldiers would just be surrendering :D

Dream on. If guerrilla warfare has taught us anything (well, tried to anyway) it is that low-tech lateral resourcefulness and determination always outwit high-tech one-track-mindedness and arrogance...
Quote finboz 15th January 2007, 16:31
i think he will be safe from elephant guns :D

http://mediax.muchosucko.com/movies/biggun1.wmv
Quote overdosedelusion 15th January 2007, 16:47
:)
Quote JADS 15th January 2007, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Dream on. If guerrilla warfare has taught us anything (well, tried to anyway) it is that low-tech lateral resourcefulness and determination always outwit high-tech one-track-mindedness and arrogance...

The simple solution being to sneak up behind them and push them over ;) Then of course, because we're talking about extremists, shoot them in the back a few hundred times at point blank range with high velocity weaponary.
Quote Duste 15th January 2007, 16:51
The enemy will just learn to shoot for the joints, where there's no armour.
Quote walle 15th January 2007, 17:12
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Tanks and missiles?
;)
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Originally Posted by finboz
i think he will be safe from elephant guns :D

Power is nothing without control ? :)
Quote Spaceraver 15th January 2007, 17:30
me wants... would be killer for hardball games...
Quote severedhead 15th January 2007, 20:35
Wow! Looks like real-life BF2142!
Quote Nexxo 15th January 2007, 20:45
Hmmm... the article says:
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The whole suit -- which draws design inspiration from Star Wars, RoboCop, Batman and video games...
Interesting sources of inspiration.

...and the classic line:
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Dangling between the legs, that would be a clock.
Sorry, a what?
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Troy Hurtubise... has now created a much slimmer suit that he hopes will soon be protecting Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
Given that the British army can't even afford ordinary bullet-proof vests for its troops who are right in the thick of it, I don't think soldiers are going to see this kind of gear any time soon.
Quote specofdust 15th January 2007, 20:59
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Dream on. If guerrilla warfare has taught us anything (well, tried to anyway) it is that low-tech lateral resourcefulness and determination always outwit high-tech one-track-mindedness and arrogance...

There's going to be a technology level at which guerilla tactics and greater knowledge cannot counter the tech gap. Right now most militia's and guerilla fighters are around 60 years behind modern fighters. Thing is though, while modern armies are continually being updated militas seem destined to keep using 1940/1950's level tech indefinately. If as DARPA is hoping for, they can get platoons of soldiers marching super fast, jumping super high, and going for days at a time - natural resourcefullness is going to start to run out of usefullness.
Quote overdosedelusion 15th January 2007, 21:00
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Given that the British army can't even afford ordinary bullet-proof vests for its troops who are right in the thick of it, I don't think soldiers are going to see this kind of gear any time soon.

I think the American army have a lot more funds than our piddly brittish army.

I can't see this suit being used really. I'm sure someone else in military and ballistic science/research have already created such armour, it's either inpractical for duty, or too expensive. I can't believe he thinks he's the only one to have built such plating..?
Quote atanum141 15th January 2007, 21:04
jesus, what i dont understand is why not order lots of them, whats with the 10 odd years of testing and development. Why not test it Iraq? what could be worse? and didnt the American R&D develop Partical weapons allready??...i swear i read that somewhere.
Quote LAGMonkey 16th January 2007, 09:34
id get one






EDIT:: hang on, the helmet has got a lovely AC (read FAN) system in it however the body dosent!!!
Thats going to be one hell of a hot and sweaty suit if you start running about in it I think he should do temperature tests in it next. Just to see if anything needs modding
Quote tm36usa 16th January 2007, 11:19
My only fear would be that it would be hard to move in. Well that and I wouldnt trust it to stop a bullet if i was wearing it for the first time, i'd need to see it shot first. Pretty sweet tho!
Quote r4tch3t 16th January 2007, 11:19
Well I certainly want one, Go join the army, here is your gun and uniform, *takes gun* *waves away uniform* "nah I brought my own."
It's about time somebody made something like this. How can they not see, it works in all our favorite games, why not put it in practice.
Anyways for the cost, I think it would be a great addition to the armed forces, if not just for the coolness factor.
Quote L2wis 16th January 2007, 11:32
awsome!!!
Quote DLoney 16th January 2007, 11:37
did anyone else see that his neck was exposed. That alone makes this worth very little as full body armor.
Quote Mother-Goose 16th January 2007, 11:47
the idea is brilliant, hopefully it works in practice, protecting the neck and maintaining movement is a common problem, id assume that the "sleave" around the neck would be woven kevlar?
Quote Bladestorm 16th January 2007, 11:55
Cool, but sounds a little fishy, I mean I'd have thought a major world militarys R&D department somewhere would have already done it if it was that easy ? and $2000 sounds a bit cheap too ?
Quote Pookeyhead 16th January 2007, 11:57
He just had to have a moustache didn't he? :) I bet he's wearing chaps under there as well!

In all seriousness, I think it's a briliant idea, and I'm sure he's thought of something as fundamental as being able to use the bathroom, otherwise the whole thing is pointless. Just imagine the INTIMIDATION factor this thing has alone! Imagine facing a platoon of soldiers that looked like that? Don't know about you, but I'd just run away immediately.
Quote crayfish 16th January 2007, 12:10
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Not only does it look almost identical to the suit worn by Halo hero, Master Chief,

It looks nothing like a Halo suit.
Quote Cthippo 16th January 2007, 12:37
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Originally Posted by specofdust
There's going to be a technology level at which guerilla tactics and greater knowledge cannot counter the tech gap. Right now most militia's and guerilla fighters are around 60 years behind modern fighters. Thing is though, while modern armies are continually being updated militas seem destined to keep using 1940/1950's level tech indefinately. If as DARPA is hoping for, they can get platoons of soldiers marching super fast, jumping super high, and going for days at a time - natural resourcefullness is going to start to run out of usefullness.

Ah, but you're missing tyhe point, Spec. Guerillas have an advantage no occuping army can match, invisibility. As long as you can't tell a harmless villager from an armed guerilla, you can't defeat the guerillas without killing all the villagers. The more you hurt the villagers, the more you support the guerillas. Keep in mind that war, all war, is fundamentally political in nature. Wars are ultimatly won not on the battlefield, but in the hearts and minds of the population.

Besides, if you kill a soldier with a pointy stick, you can take his shiny gun.
Quote Darkedge 16th January 2007, 13:54
hmm the guys a nut - certifiable and he hans't thought it out that well at all to be practical.
1. Neck and hands exposed - proof against a knife attack? nope.
2. No cooling for body.
3. piss poor field of view which would be nightmare in combat.
4. Laser pointer on head for targeting?!? Oh ffs useless and only points out most of the time where YOU are. dumbass

I'm sure it has alot of other problems too...
Quote Veles 16th January 2007, 14:18
A cooling system similar to what they use in suits they use for space walking would be useful here.

You'd never be able to get an entire army in this stuff though.

Bit silly anyway as soldiers will be replaced by remote controlled robots soon :p
Quote HugoB 16th January 2007, 14:58
I have to say it's practicality for the military is doubtful, if soemthing like this was practicle they'd already have it.

As it is, I think there's more change of police forces addoption something like this, rather than the military. RoboCop it is...
Quote pdf27 16th January 2007, 16:03
Heavy and big enought to turn any soldier wearing it into a large, slow target. Anyone wearing conventional body armour will be long gone and hiding in the nearest ditch while the person in this is still running. While there are some tasks where you are very exposed for long periods of time and don't have to move far - stagging on a gate or being top cover in a moving vehicle are good examples.

Incidentally, I have grave doubts about the claimed weight/protection. The latest issue British body armour in use in Iraq/Afghanistan will stop a 7.62mm (I assume x54mm) AP round and weighs about 15kg. He's claiming better protection over the whole body for a 3kg weight increase. That's something I simply do not believe.
Quote Generic42 16th January 2007, 16:16
I think he is forgetting one thing that this guy cant stop with his suit. Crushing. If you run over someone with a car they're pinned and it's merely a matter of blowing up the car to cover him in flames until he dies... that and it may stop a lot, but improvised RPGs firing solid rounds rather than explosives would at least knock the wind out of him long enough for a terrorist to run up a chain him down so he can be left for dead chained to a phone pole...
Quote DXR_13KE 16th January 2007, 16:17
fishy.... but very cool.
[darth vader voice] DIE TERRORIST SCUM!!!![/darth vader voice] :D

molotov cocktail... :(
Quote webbyman 16th January 2007, 17:14
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Originally Posted by finboz
i think he will be safe from elephant guns :D

http://mediax.muchosucko.com/movies/biggun1.wmv

bloomin hell :D

I'm sure with further development they could be under 15kg, which in it's self isn't all that much

i'm rather thin and 6ft something and i weight 4x that, and would properly be fine carrying that extra weight for a good few hours?
Quote Cobalt 16th January 2007, 19:06
Would all the people complaining about gaps in the armour please get a grip. The current body armour covers the torso and you get a helmet covering the top of your head. That's it. This gives you around 70% protection which is a heck of a lot better. The gaps themselves are pretty small and its hard to aim at them.

These wouldn't be used on a day to day basis anyway. More likely they would see use in "black ops" where troops are entering enclosed spaces at high speed in order to take down the enemy as fast as possible. In that case the high levels of protection outweigh the disadvantage of weight because endurance isn't an issue when the whole operation won't take more than 15 minutes.

He needs to work on the helmet IMO. A full visor made from lexan would be better but I guess his budget didn't include one-off productions of optically perfect, bullet resistant polymers.

Integrate some kind HUD and it'd be perfect.
Quote sui_winbolo 16th January 2007, 19:50
That looks cool, but I can't take this guy seriously after this article.
http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=6657

Sounds like another nut case.
Quote sammo1999 16th January 2007, 20:13
I agree with the above post, wikipedia him:

Most recently, Hurtubise has supposedly designed the Angel Light, a large device that he claims can see through objects, detect stealth aircraft, see into flesh, and disable electronic devices. Hurtubise says that the design for the Angel Light came to him in a series of three dreams, and that he was able to build it from memory, with no schematic and worked on the first try.


It came to him in a dream...nutso
Quote glaeken 16th January 2007, 20:23
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Originally Posted by pdf27

Incidentally, I have grave doubts about the claimed weight/protection. The latest issue British body armour in use in Iraq/Afghanistan will stop a 7.62mm (I assume x54mm) AP round and weighs about 15kg. He's claiming better protection over the whole body for a 3kg weight increase. That's something I simply do not believe.

The dragon skin armor that's being tested in Iraq right now by the US ways about 17 pounds, and this is weights a little more than the standard SAPI plates. But it offers better protection for multiple hits and covers more body area, so his total body suit weighing 15kg isn't that unrealistic.
Quote Nexxo 16th January 2007, 20:33
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Originally Posted by specofdust
There's going to be a technology level at which guerilla tactics and greater knowledge cannot counter the tech gap. Right now most militia's and guerilla fighters are around 60 years behind modern fighters. Thing is though, while modern armies are continually being updated militas seem destined to keep using 1940/1950's level tech indefinately. If as DARPA is hoping for, they can get platoons of soldiers marching super fast, jumping super high, and going for days at a time - natural resourcefullness is going to start to run out of usefullness.
Nope, that suit may make someone bullet and shrapnel proof, but not very fast and manoeuverable.

- You could lure him in a building and torch it. Poor visibility makes it tricky to get out. Let's see how well he copes getting boiled in the shell alive.

- Throw a jar of Army ants at him and watch them get into all the nooks and crannies of the suit. And then they start biting... Low-tech bio-warfare at its best.

- It has no serious cooling so in hot climates it is going to be pretty toasty. How much water does a human sweat in such temperatures again? And hauling 18Kgs of armour makes you a bit slow... not a great range, then.

DARPA may think of powered exoskeletons but they are extremely high-maintenance and limited in range --the power has to come from somewhere and their maintenance brings a whole infrastructure (think base with tools, parts, engineers) with them.

Local guerrillas meanwhile are low-maintenance and can set up and break up camp any time, anywhere. They don't have fancy technology so they have had a lifetime of experience in solving their problems the creative, low-tech way. They have had a lifetime of hardship to make them resilient. They know the land --what is edible and drinkable, what is poisonous, what is dangerous, the terrain, the pitfalls.

And most importantly, our DARPA'd up solidiers will be used to basic comfort, to having the upper hand on the battlefield and having a decent standard of living waiting back home, with their families, a career and a future. They are used to having dreams. They have things to lose. Guerrillas often have nothing. They are used to being outnumbered and outgunned, to having an uncertain future and losing their families. The guerrillas will fight to the bitter end, because they have nothing to lose, and everthing to gain.

The world has changed. Bigger guns don't work anymore.
Quote Cadillac Ferd 16th January 2007, 20:51
Did anyone read the wiki on this guy? It's linked in the article and I gotta say it seems more than a little ridiculous. If the inventions this guy has had have actually worked (and he's been working on these suits since the 80's) how come no one has ever flipping heard of the guy before? Is it all just some crazy guy in Canada? What the hell. Seriously. Go read the wiki it lists alot of the things this guy has come up with and the claims he has made (and supposedly proven) about their capabilities.
Quote Charles1 16th January 2007, 23:46
I buy one just to rob a bank LOL
Quote scarecrow 17th January 2007, 00:22
http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/hurtubise_fire_jeep.htm

This guy is nuts but he seems valid. Some impressive stuff he has come up with. You can't deny his demonstrations.
Quote glaeken 17th January 2007, 00:40
He does seem a bit crazy, but if his other inventions are anything like his blast cushions, then it seems that they might be the real deal too.
Quote scarecrow 17th January 2007, 00:50
http://www.exn.ca/dailyplanet/view.asp?date=8/31/2004

Another video of his fire paste he has great ideas but he is a little cocky ....
Quote Marquee 17th January 2007, 01:36
All I got to say is Woot woot Canadian done it again.
Quote Omnituens 17th January 2007, 01:55
Take off, and nuke the site from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.
Quote sammo1999 17th January 2007, 02:08
The video suggests that his stuff works, however the one clip is from 2004, and I haven't heard of any of this stuff being used yet.

They guy seems like an born again used car salesman to me.
Quote pdf27 17th January 2007, 13:22
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Originally Posted by glaeken
The dragon skin armor that's being tested in Iraq right now by the US ways about 17 pounds, and this is weights a little more than the standard SAPI plates. But it offers better protection for multiple hits and covers more body area, so his total body suit weighing 15kg isn't that unrealistic.
Multiple hits from what? The numbers I quoted are for 7.62x54 (NATO) AP rounds. That has several times the penetrating power of the 7.62x39 Russian standard rounds which are the most common ones faced in Iraq.

Oh, and I've heard quite a few bad things about the dragon skin armour - enough to make me suspect that there is more marketing than engineering behind it.
Quote glaeken 17th January 2007, 22:48
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Originally Posted by pdf27
Multiple hits from what? The numbers I quoted are for 7.62x54 (NATO) AP rounds. That has several times the penetrating power of the 7.62x39 Russian standard rounds which are the most common ones faced in Iraq.

Oh, and I've heard quite a few bad things about the dragon skin armour - enough to make me suspect that there is more marketing than engineering behind it.

Multiple hits from 7.62 AP and API rounds. What bad things have you heard? (Not trying to provoke anything, it's just that I've only read good things about it and am interested to hear some bad points.)

I wasn't trying to promote the dragon skin armor, but what I was getting at is that current armor isn't that heavy, and that the weight of his suit isn't inconceivable.
Quote 1e8o 18th January 2007, 19:19
I think it's kinda cool...we are a little step closer to an even more sci-fi world :P
Quote pdf27 26th May 2007, 00:09
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Originally Posted by glaeken
What bad things have you heard? (Not trying to provoke anything, it's just that I've only read good things about it and am interested to hear some bad points.)
Sorry for the thread necromancy, but I finally came across a hard source for this today which backs up the rather nebulous rumours I'd been hearing and didn't feel comfortable putting down in a thread. In summary, they're bigger, heavier and provide less protection than what the US Army was already issuing.
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Army Defends Body Armor Quality
(Source: US Department of Defense; issued May 21, 2007)

WASHINGTON --- U.S. troops operating in Iraq and Afghanistan have the best body armor in the world, and the Army is constantly looking for ways to improve force protection, the general in charge of the program told reporters here today.

“Force protection is the No. 1 priority of the U.S. Army. We value our soldiers very highly, and we do everything we can do to ensure that they have the finest in force protection as they go into the battle,” Army Brig. Gen. R. Mark Brown, Program Executive Officer Soldier, said at a Pentagon news conference.

In response to a May 17 NBC News report challenging the Army’s use of Interceptor body armor vs. the newer “Dragon Skin” armor developed by Pinnacle Armor Inc., Brown today released information about the testing that ruled out Dragon Skin a year ago.

The tests were conducted May 16 to 19, 2006, at H.P. White labs near Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md. The Pinnacle armor was subjected to the same tests Interceptor body armor goes through, first being X-rayed and analyzed and then undergoing a series of live-fire tests, Brown said. The live-fire tests included room-temperature tests, harsh environment tests, and durability and drop tests.

Of the eight Pinnacle vests tested, four of them failed the tests, with 13 rounds penetrating completely on the first or second shot, Brown said. After the first complete penetration, the vests technically failed the test, but the Army continued the testing to be fair, he said.

The Pinnacle vests also were subjected to extreme temperature variations, from minus 25 degrees Fahrenheit to 120 degrees Fahrenheit, which would be a realistic cycle if the equipment was loaded onto a plane and flown to the Middle East, Brown said. These temperature tests caused the adhesive holding the Dragon Skin’s protective discs together to fail, and the discs gathered at the bottom of the vest, leaving gaps in protection, he said.

Brown also noted that the Dragon Skin vests are significantly heavier and thicker than the Interceptor vests. Dragon Skin vests in size extra large are 47.5 pounds and 1.7 to 1.9 inches thick; the Interceptor vests in size large, which offer an equivalent coverage area to the extra large Dragon Skin vests, weigh 28 pounds and are 1.3 inches thick.

“Bottom line is it does not meet Army standards,” Brown said of the Pinnacle body armor.

Brown showed reporters videos of the tests, which were supervised by the chief executive officer of Pinnacle. He also displayed the actual vests that were tested, with markers showing the penetration sites.

The Army did not initially release the information about the tests because of possible security concerns, Brown said. “We are facing a very media-savvy enemy,” he said. “They’re not only media-savvy, they are Internet savvy. … Everything that we put out into the public domain, we pretty much assume that they get. We don’t like to discuss our vulnerabilities and our counters to the vulnerabilities in the open public.”

However, after the NBC report, Army leaders felt they needed to counter any doubts in the minds of servicemembers and their families, Brown said. “Our soldiers and, more importantly, the families – the wives, the children, the parents – have to have confidence that our soldiers have the best equipment in the world,” he said.

Right now, the Army’s safety-of-use message mandates that all soldiers use Interceptor body armor, which has passed the same tests the Pinnacle armor failed, Brown said. The Army is interested in a more flexible armor, like the Pinnacle design, and if the company improves its product, it could be reconsidered, he said.

Brown stressed that the Army has more than one set of body armor for every soldier in the combat theater, and that he has all the money and support he needs to make improvements to force protection. Also, the Army is constantly working to develop new technologies that will deliver better protection.

“This is not just a matter of debate for us; this is personal,” he said, noting that many of his staff members have relatives or friends who have served or are serving in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Quote woof82 26th May 2007, 10:55
I was very skeptical when I read this. But the promo video of his bear suit was something that took me very much by surprise:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CzYw5-qdA&mode=related&search=
Quote Hugo.B 26th May 2007, 12:42
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Dream on. If guerrilla warfare has taught us anything (well, tried to anyway) it is that low-tech lateral resourcefulness and determination always outwit high-tech one-track-mindedness and arrogance...
Any guesses as to why the colonialists beat the British army?
Unconventional warfare will always win. Though one has to admit, it has certainly got harder over the ages. But I'm sure that you can draw in the slack with a bit of patriotic zeal or religious fervour.

H.B.
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