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Dell teases 27" 5K UltraSharp monitor

Dell teases 27" 5K UltraSharp monitor

Dell's upcoming UltraSharp 27 Ultra HD 5K display boasts a whopping 5,120x2,880 native resolution and a pro-grade price-tag to match.

Dell has confirmed that its curved display isn't the only interesting monitor it plans to release this year, teasing an ultra-high definition panel with a 5,120x2,880 resolution.

The push towards 4K resolutions and its consumer-facing variant Ultra HD is plain to see, with everyone from monitor makers and microconsole manufacturers to system builders heralding the higher resolution as the next big thing in gaming. Dell, however, has decided to go one better than its competitors with a 5K display: the Dell UltraSharp 27 Ultra HD 5K Monitor, to give it its full title.

The panel features a 5,120x2,880 native resolution - seven times higher than a Full HD screen - in a 27" diagonal, for a massive pixel density of 218 pixels per inch. The panel itself is protected by edge-to-edge glass with an anti-reflective coating, while extras include a pair of 16W Harmon Kardon speakers and six USB ports along with a memory card reader. Dell's PremierColour technology is also included for what the company claims is true-to-life colour accuracy suitable for professional graphics work.

That's just as well, really, because the price puts the 5K display easily into the professional market: while UK pricing has yet to be confirmed, Dell has stated that it plans to release the monitor in the US later this year with an eye-watering $2,499.99 recommended retail price (around £1,532 excluding taxes.)

Full specifications for the monitor have yet to be published, with more details expected closer to its year-end launch.

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theshadow2001 5th September 2014, 12:00 Quote
All these lovely new monitors and not one of them with variable refresh rate tech :(
damien c 5th September 2014, 12:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
All these lovely new monitors and not one of them with variable refresh rate tech :(

I am tempted to grab one of these Acer ones

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/28-acer-xb280hkbprz-4k2k-g-sync-led-gaming-monitor-displayport-3840x2160-300cd-m2-10m1-1ms-usb-hub

4K with Gsync but I am also tempted with the ROG Swift monitor still got to wait till I get the money together for either of them though.

This Dell monitor is going to take some grunt to run it at the max res for gamers.
Mr_Mistoffelees 5th September 2014, 12:40 Quote
Unless it comes with a magnifying glass, on a flexible arm attached to the top, included in the price, I am not interested.
debs3759 5th September 2014, 15:43 Quote
What graphics card can output that resolution to a single monitor?
theshadow2001 5th September 2014, 16:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by damien c
I am tempted to grab one of these Acer ones

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/28-acer-xb280hkbprz-4k2k-g-sync-led-gaming-monitor-displayport-3840x2160-300cd-m2-10m1-1ms-usb-hub

4K with Gsync but I am also tempted with the ROG Swift monitor still got to wait till I get the money together for either of them though.

This Dell monitor is going to take some grunt to run it at the max res for gamers.

I'd love to hop on the gsync band wagon too. But with free sync coming I think it best to wait. Hopefully more 4k ips displays will be available by then.



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Originally Posted by debs3759
What graphics card can output that resolution to a single monitor?
Yup. It's the same as a 4 monitor 2560x1440 eyefinity setup.
You'd need all the graphics cards to power it.
Anakha 5th September 2014, 18:49 Quote
G-Sync, FreeSync, all I want is a 120Hz(+) IPS panel. I am sick and tired of having to choose between "Looks good, but slow" (IPS/PVA) and "Performs well, but looks crap." (TN).
theshadow2001 5th September 2014, 20:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anakha
G-Sync, FreeSync, all I want is a 120Hz(+) IPS panel. I am sick and tired of having to choose between "Looks good, but slow" (IPS/PVA) and "Performs well, but looks crap." (TN).

That was something I was thinking about today. You probably can't have an IPS panel at that speed. In order to have that speed and the colour accuracy you would probably need a new technology. This is all baseless speculation though.
jrs77 5th September 2014, 20:28 Quote
I'm still asking, why the manufacturers don't build smaller screens with higher resolutions. Every new screen released lately with high-density panels is 27+ inches :(

I don't even need 4k or anything ike that, but only a 22-24" screen with higher than the current 90ppi. Make it 150ppi, which would be the resolution magazines are printed with, that would be really nice and resulting in a 22" screen with somwhere around 2560x1600.

If Apple puts 15" screens with 2880x1800 or 13" with 2560x1600 into their MBPs than I really don't get it, why there's no 22-24" screens with higher than 1080p yet.
theshadow2001 5th September 2014, 20:52 Quote
Because windows is crap at scaling and not everyone has a eyes with in built telescopes. Apple more than likely have the whole scaling thing done faily well (I'm guessing) on their operating systems.
Anakha 5th September 2014, 20:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
That was something I was thinking about today. You probably can't have an IPS panel at that speed. In order to have that speed and the colour accuracy you would probably need a new technology. This is all baseless speculation though.

Some of the early Korean 27" IPS panels (With the Dual-Link DVI connector only) could be overdriven to (up to) 144Hz without issue, and a check with a high-speed camera showed it really was running at 144Hz. So at least some panels can do it, it seems.
theshadow2001 5th September 2014, 21:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anakha
Some of the early Korean 27" IPS panels (With the Dual-Link DVI connector only) could be overdriven to (up to) 144Hz without issue, and a check with a high-speed camera showed it really was running at 144Hz. So at least some panels can do it, it seems.

Well, there you go. Wild speculation disproven. Still, producing something like that at reliable commerical volumes maybe quite difficult.
Pliqu3011 5th September 2014, 21:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anakha
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
That was something I was thinking about today. You probably can't have an IPS panel at that speed. In order to have that speed and the colour accuracy you would probably need a new technology. This is all baseless speculation though.

Some of the early Korean 27" IPS panels (With the Dual-Link DVI connector only) could be overdriven to (up to) 144Hz without issue, and a check with a high-speed camera showed it really was running at 144Hz. So at least some panels can do it, it seems.

Well, there's probably a reason why manufacturers don't sell any IPS screens standard at 120Hz, even if they potentially handle it. Think of it, why would they leave out a feature they could ask extra money for on some "premium series" monitors if it's so simple?
I think - and this is also baseless speculation - that it's highly likely there's some big disadvantage to overclocking an IPS panel to 120Hz and above, probably a reduction in lifespan.
jrs77 5th September 2014, 23:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
Because windows is crap at scaling and not everyone has a eyes with in built telescopes. Apple more than likely have the whole scaling thing done faily well (I'm guessing) on their operating systems.

For good scaling you need to have all icons and UI-elements in different resolutions currently (32x32, 64x64, 96x96, etc) and you'd still be bound by those multiplicators. If they would finally move on to a vector-based UI, then scaling wouldn't be an issue anymore.
theshadow2001 7th September 2014, 12:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
For good scaling you need to have all icons and UI-elements in different resolutions currently (32x32, 64x64, 96x96, etc) and you'd still be bound by those multiplicators. If they would finally move on to a vector-based UI, then scaling wouldn't be an issue anymore.

Well until Microsoft does something about it. I don't think you'll get your 24 inch 4k monitor

Edit. Actually dell have a 24 inch 4k. So there you go wrong again
Star*Dagger 7th September 2014, 17:38 Quote
Shame they are hobbling it with such a small screen size, most 4k monitors are over 30 inches.
jrs77 7th September 2014, 19:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
Edit. Actually dell have a 24 inch 4k. So there you go wrong again

Read my previous posts again. I don't want 4k-resolution, but only some 2560x1600, which is the highest supported resolution over HDMI@60Hz.

To drive 4k-panels at 60Hz you need a DisplayPort 1.2, which makes the use of the IGP allmost impossible due to the lack of DP 1.2 connectors on most mainboards.
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 17:24 Quote
The Asus z87-pro does 3840x2160 at 60hz

I see a z97 asrock one with display port 1.2 they seem common enough
debs3759 8th September 2014, 17:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
The Asus z87-pro does 3840x2160 at 60hz

Only over DP 1.2, jrs77 wants it over HDMI which no card does yet.
jrs77 8th September 2014, 18:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by debs3759
Only over DP 1.2, jrs77 wants it over HDMI which no card does yet.

Wrong. I want 2560x1600 over HDMI.

If you adress me, then atleast read exactly what I wrote before.
jrs77 8th September 2014, 18:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
The Asus z87-pro does 3840x2160 at 60hz

I see a z97 asrock one with display port 1.2 they seem common enough

And now try to find them DisplayPorts on H-series or Q-series chipset motherboards, which are used by the majority of users.

Also, I still don't care about 4k. All I'm looking for is slightly improved pixel-density, so that we end up with around 150ppi.
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Originally Posted by debs3759
Only over DP 1.2, jrs77 wants it over HDMI which no card does yet.

Wrong. I want 2560x1600@60Hz over HDMI, which is the current standard.

If you adress me, then atleast read exactly what I wrote before.
debs3759 8th September 2014, 19:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
Wrong. I want 2560x1600 over HDMI.

If you adress me, then atleast read exactly what I wrote before.

I did read what you said and you do want it (60 Hz) over HDMI
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 20:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
And now try to find them DisplayPorts on H-series or Q-series chipset motherboards, which are used by the majority of users.

Talk about moving the goal posts, but OK....

http://www.gigabyte.ie/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4851#ov

Q series chipset display port 1.2
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Originally Posted by jrs77

Also, I still don't care about 4k. All I'm looking for is slightly improved pixel-density, so that we end up with around 150ppi.

You could get a 30" 4k monitor, use the gpu to resize it to 2560x1600. That would give you a 20" screen with 150 ppi
jrs77 8th September 2014, 20:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by debs3759
I did read what you said and you do want it (60 Hz) over HDMI

Yes, but not 4k as you claimed before.
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
Talk about moving the goal posts, but OK....

http://www.gigabyte.ie/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4851#ov

Q series chipset display port 1.2

You could get a 30" 4k monitor, use the gpu to resize it to 2560x1440. That would give you a 20" screen with 150 ppi

I never said there are none of these boards outthere, just that DP 1.2 isn't on most of these boards.

And why would I want such a big screen on my desk? Anything wider than 60cm isn't economical for me, as I'd need to turn my head to see the edges of it.

I know we're a tech-savvy forum, but we allmost allways forget about the majority of users, which I see myself belonging to actually, as I'm not interested in high-end hardware, watercooling or anything fancy.
The reason I frequent these forums on a daily basis is actually to represent this unvocal majority, which is why alot of people inhere seem to have problems with my postitions as they simply don't want to understand the reasons behind them.
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 20:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77

I never said there are none of these boards outthere, just that DP 1.2 isn't on most of these boards.

And why would I want such a big screen on my desk? Anything wider than 60cm isn't economical for me, as I'd need to turn my head to see the edges of it.

I know we're a tech-savvy forum, but we allmost allways forget about the majority of users, which I see myself belonging to actually, as I'm not interested in high-end hardware, watercooling or anything fancy.
The reason I frequent these forums on a daily basis is actually to represent this unvocal majority, which is why alot of people inhere seem to have problems with my postitions.
I'm well aware of the fact your skull is welded to your spine preventing even the most minor of head turning. You would have a 20" diagonal of illuminated screen at your desired ppi. That would be it. There would be a black border all around the remainder of your screen.
jrs77 8th September 2014, 21:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
I'm well aware of the fact your skull is welded to your spine preventing even the most minor of head turning. You would have a 20" diagonal of illuminated screen at your desired ppi. That would be it. There would be a black border all around the remainder of your screen.

See, that's exactly my point. You simply don't want to understand, that it's unergonomical for me to turn my head. I want to see the whole picture without having to turn my head.

And buying a 30"-screen to have half of it's area blacked out is, displaying the image only in the middle... c'mon... you can't be serious.
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 21:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
See, that's exactly my point. You simply don't want to understand, that it's unergonomical for me to turn my head. I want to see the whole picture without having to turn my head.
I think you are overly fussy with your requirements. That you are very inflexible in what you can make work for you.
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And buying a 30"-screen to have half of it's area blacked out is, displaying the image only in the middle... c'mon... you can't be serious.
Since you are unwilling to accommodate 4k or a larger screen. It's the only viable solution I can think of that meets your requirement. If someone made your ideal monitor tomorrow. It would be so niche that it would probably cost the same or more.
debs3759 8th September 2014, 22:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
Yes, but not 4k as you claimed before.

I didn't say 4K. I apologise if my post was unclear, but my intention was to show you want 60 Hz, not 4K.
Anfield 8th September 2014, 22:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
Well, there's probably a reason why manufacturers don't sell any IPS screens standard at 120Hz, even if they potentially handle it. Think of it, why would they leave out a feature they could ask extra money for on some "premium series" monitors if it's so simple?
I think - and this is also baseless speculation - that it's highly likely there's some big disadvantage to overclocking an IPS panel to 120Hz and above, probably a reduction in lifespan.

144Hz IPS Panels are coming to a monitor near you soon:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/144hz-ips-type-panels-developed-1440p-as-well.html
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 22:57 Quote
Yes I saw this today. Pretty sweet, its using AVHA, which doesn't mean a whole lot to me :?
SchizoFrog 8th September 2014, 22:59 Quote
27", 1440P, 144Hz, IPS-Type (AHVA)? Personally I think this is much more appealing. :)

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/144hz-ips-type-panels-developed-1440p-as-well.html

@jrs77: I find it laughable that you label yourself as a 'majority user' and then go on to list very niche and extremely limiting personal requirements.

P.S. Ha ha... Anfield beat me to it after I was distract for a few mins by my girlfriend. :)
theshadow2001 8th September 2014, 23:22 Quote
I wonder if AHVA fast IPS or wide angle TN?
debs3759 9th September 2014, 00:20 Quote
What I want to know is - card specs say DP can output 4096x2160 @ 60Hz and HDMI can output the same at 24Hz. Where are the monitors they tested on to prove this?
theshadow2001 9th September 2014, 00:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by debs3759
What I want to know is - card specs say DP can output 4096x2160 @ 60Hz and HDMI can output the same at 24Hz. Where are the monitors they tested on to prove this?

I would imagine that this is just quoting the respective electrical standards. The people developing the standard would issue those specs along with testing and confirming.
Elton 9th September 2014, 10:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by theshadow2001
I wonder if AHVA fast IPS or wide angle TN?

According to TFT central it seems that AHVA is a derivative or IPS/PLS technology with higher refresh rates. It also seems that the response time is on par with IPS panels so that's interesting. Furthermore it seems AHVA is AU Optronics' reply to Samsung's PLS and LG's IPS.
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