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Seagate promises 6TB drives this year

Seagate promises 6TB drives this year

Seagate promises to have a six-platter 6TB hard drive on the market by Q2, to compete with HGST's seven-platter helium-filled model.

Storage giant Seagate has pledged to launch a desktop hard drive with a capacity of 6TB in the second quarter of this year, in an attempt to catch up to rival Western Digital.

Western Digital's HGST division - previously Hitachi Global Storage Technologies - became the first manufacturer to offer a single standard form-factor 3.5" hard drive offering a whopping 6TB capacity in November last year. The surprising jump in capacity came thanks to a novel manufacturing technique which replaces the air normally found inside a hard drive with helium in order to reduce drag - allowing for a seven-platter spinning-rust storage device that just about crams into a standard hard drive bay.

Now, Seagate has pledged to match that but with a more sedate six-platter layout - and to launch the device by the end of the second quarter. 'We are continuing to expand our offering of high capacity drives,' Seagate chief executive Steve Luczo told investors and press during the company's most recent earnings call, 'with our six-disk, 6TB drive shipping early next quarter.'

Luczo was, however, silent on how the company has managed to add an extra platter to its drives' design without taking a leaf from Hitachi's book and using a novel gas for its interior. The company has, however, confirmed that the drives will be based around perpendicular magnetic recording and be of the same design as the company uses in its existing 1TB-per-platter storage offerings.

Sadly for those hoping that the launch will lead to a high-capacity price war, Luczo noted that the first 6TB drives will be aimed firmly at the enterprise storage market - meaning it could be a while before prices drop to the level of the enthusiast's pocket.

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YEHBABY 31st January 2014, 14:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
Sadly for those hoping that the launch will lead to a high-capacity price war, Luczo noted that the first 6TB drives will be aimed firmly at the enterprise storage market - meaning it could be a while before prices drop to the level of the enthusiast's pocket.

Damn
azazel1024 31st January 2014, 17:09 Quote
Grrrr. Not mad at the uber high price, mad that these are still stinking 1TB per platter designs. It does make me wonder though, if they have 1, 2, 3 and 4 platter designs and are looking at a 6 platter 6TB design, what about also coming out with a 5TB 5 platter design more consumer oriented?

Sigh, even a slight bump to 1.2TB per platter would go a long way. ~2.5TB 2 platter design, ~5TB 4 platter and 6TB 5 platter designs then.

It seems like hard drive areal density is plateauing a lot recently. It's been, what? 18 months, at least, since 1TB per platter designs hit and by the admissions of both WD/HGST and Seagate it doesn't look like either of them will release designs with >1TB per platter in 2014. So a minimum of another 12 months, or 2.5+ years before we move from 1TB per platter to something higher.

SSDs are catching up, fast. I'll bet we'll see some 1.5TB designs this year as the big guys start moving from designs like 19x25nm cells to 19x19nm cells and stuff and in another year or two we'll probably see 2+TB SSD designs (in a 2.5" form factor to be clear).
dicobalt 31st January 2014, 18:01 Quote
I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/
Gareth Halfacree 31st January 2014, 18:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by dicobalt
I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know. ;)
Jim 31st January 2014, 20:18 Quote
As far as I know, the 6TB He drives aren't even available through normal channels yet.

I'm not in any rush, but I wouldn't mind a couple for backup purposes if the price was reasonable.
M_D_K 31st January 2014, 23:18 Quote
Great another useless use for Helium.
desertstalker 1st February 2014, 02:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
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Originally Posted by dicobalt
I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know. ;)

Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.
mucgoo 1st February 2014, 22:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by M_D_K
Great another useless use for Helium.
It results in electricity saving so surely positive given how little gas is needed to a fill a 3.5" drive.
SleepyMatt 1st February 2014, 22:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by M_D_K
Great another useless use for Helium.
It results in electricity saving so surely positive given how little gas is needed to a fill a 3.5" drive.

Perhaps, but not exactly a long-term solution.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19676639
Phil Rhodes 1st February 2014, 23:18 Quote
If they can keep helium in - which is difficult, since it diffuses through objects quite easily, as every balloon-owner knows - they could probably just as easily maintain a vacuum in there.

Gimmick.
law99 1st February 2014, 23:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by desertstalker
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
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Originally Posted by dicobalt
I hope they are reliable, Seagate doesn't have a good history but it seems they are making some progress.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/
I covered that very same report here, y'know. ;)

Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.

Perhaps. But it is data. I think the cold harsh truth is the real data is going to be hard to come by. It would rely on companies being honest and open. This includes too many companies reliant on third parties maintaining their hardware also. I can't see much incentive for anyone to do anything other than avoid actually **** products.
John_T 2nd February 2014, 16:33 Quote
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Might want to consider this http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html as well.

Sounds like that data may not be very reliable at all.

That was a good article - thanks for the share.
edzieba 3rd February 2014, 08:44 Quote
Hitachi's 3.5" division is actually owned by Toshiba now, not Western Digital.

WD got Hitachi's laptop HDD division, the desktop division went to Toshiba as a regulatory compliance clause to avoid consolidating all HDD manufacture into two companies.
Gareth Halfacree 3rd February 2014, 09:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
If they can keep helium in - which is difficult, since it diffuses through objects quite easily, as every balloon-owner knows - they could probably just as easily maintain a vacuum in there. Gimmick.
The reason they don't do that is because a vacuum is a highly efficient insulator - ever owned a Thermos flask? - and while putting the drive's components in a vacuum would reduce drag still further over helium, it would also result in the drive rapidly overheating.

Which was addressed in the original article, and further expounded upon in the comments section.
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Hitachi's 3.5" division is actually owned by Toshiba now, not Western Digital. WD got Hitachi's laptop HDD division, the desktop division went to Toshiba as a regulatory compliance clause to avoid consolidating all HDD manufacture into two companies.
Rings a bell - I'd forgotten about that!
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