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Google Nexus 5 unveiled

Google Nexus 5 unveiled

The new Google Nexus 5

Google has launched its latest own-brand Android phone, in the shape of the Google Nexus 5.

The phone, which is being manufactured by LG, will be the first to run the latest version of Android, called Android KitKat - yes, Google really has partnered with the world's most popular chocolate bar.

Otherwise, though, the Nexus 5 is like the extremely popular Nexus 4 in that it's a relatively simple phone in terms of overall style and features. There are no fingerprint readers, stylii or curved screens here. Instead it sports a simple curved soft-touch plastic body, with only a minimum of features breaking its surface.

Said features include an 8 megapixel rear camera with LED flash, 1.3MP front camera, volume and power buttons, microUSB charging port, headphone socket and of course the screen.

Of course, all these features are top-end with the 5in IPS LCD screen having a 1080p resolution and the processor being a 2.3GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 model.

There are a couple of obvious omissions though, with the back being non-removable, meaning you can't hot-swap batteries, and there is no microSD slot.

The camera, though has taken a step forward from the Nexus 4's below-par unit. The new one only packs 8megapixels but does now feature optical image stabilisation for brigher, wobbly-free pictures.

Google Nexus 5 unveiled

Crucially, Google has also stuck to the low pricing of the Nexus 4, meaning it significantly undercuts the iPhone 5 and other Android models such as the HTC One and Samsung Galaxy S4. Pricing starts at just £299 for the 16GGB version, with black and white models on offer.

The phone is available straight away, direct from the Google Play store.

Google Nexus 5 specs

  • OS
    Android™ 4.4 (KitKat®)
  • Screen
    4.95" 1920x1080 display (445 ppi)
    Full HD IPS
    Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
  • Camera
    1.3MP front facing
    8MP rear facing with Optical Image Stabilization
  • Size
    69.17 x 137.84 x 8.59 mm
  • Weight
    4.59 oz (130 g)
  • Battery
    2,300 mAH
    Talk time up to 17 hours*
    Standby time up to 300 hours*
    Internet time up to 8.5 hours on Wi-Fi, up to 7 hours on LTE*
    Wireless Charging built-in
  • Audio Output
    Built-in speaker
    3.5mm stereo audio connector
  • CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon™ 800, 2.3GHz
  • GPU
    Adreno 330, 450MHz

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Aracos 31st October 2013, 20:04 Quote
Already ordered, looks like it gets released on the 8th in this country though because that's when it "leaves the warehouse".

EDIT: And the 32GB black version has sold out.
bawjaws 31st October 2013, 20:08 Quote
Battery looks a bit on the small side, which is a worry.
sixfootsideburns 31st October 2013, 20:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by bawjaws
Battery looks a bit on the small side, which is a worry.

Exactly why I plan to wait, otherwise this will be the phone I will likely upgrade to from my Bionic. She's been faithful, but she's getting slow in her age.
runadumb 31st October 2013, 20:33 Quote
I know I am in a small minority but the lack of removable battery is actually a huge deal for me. I hate the lack of expandable memory but as I find I stream my music more and more (the main hit on my memory) I could just about scrape by with 32GB but the battery? I mean come on, its so useful being able to swap one out. I've bought a spare with every phone I've owned for years and years now.

It drives me mad they lock that down. A spare battery with charging cradle only costs £20 for most phones and comes in super handy dozens of times a year for me.

Other than that the phone looks great for the money but **** this non-removable battery ****!
ArthurB 31st October 2013, 21:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by runadumb
I know I am in a small minority but the lack of removable battery is actually a huge deal for me.
Why not buy one of those external USB batteries? That's what I have done for my Nexus 4 since it doesn't last the whole day if I use the 3G connection a lot.
bawjaws 31st October 2013, 21:02 Quote
I'm with you on both the battery and expandable storage.
Aracos 31st October 2013, 21:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by ArthurB
Why not buy one of those external USB batteries? That's what I have done for my Nexus 4 since it doesn't last the whole day if I use the 3G connection a lot.

They're insanely useful, I got one a 12000mAh one a few weeks ago and love it ;)
runadumb 31st October 2013, 21:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by ArthurB
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Originally Posted by runadumb
I know I am in a small minority but the lack of removable battery is actually a huge deal for me.
Why not buy one of those external USB batteries? That's what I have done for my Nexus 4 since it doesn't last the whole day if I use the 3G connection a lot.

I probably would but its a poor substitute. Batteries 2000mah+ take over 21/2 hours to charge. Plugging in a battery pack to slowly charge your phone is no comparison to swapping out a battery in a minute and getting 100% charge. If you have a charging cradle you can then let that battery charge and never tether your phone to a wall socket or battery pack.
Ficky Pucker 31st October 2013, 21:34 Quote
no microSD slot and only 32GB ?

i suppose if i bought two phones i'd have enough storage for all of my music...
Mightysi 31st October 2013, 21:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Article
with it lacking any particularly standout features, such as a Xenon flash or optical image stabilisation.

Do you guys want to read the spec you've posted? It does have image stabilisation...
Meanmotion 31st October 2013, 22:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mightysi
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Originally Posted by Article
with it lacking any particularly standout features, such as a Xenon flash or optical image stabilisation.

Do you guys want to read the spec you've posted? It does have image stabilisation...

Gah, I thought I'd changed changed that. Page-save fail.
oasked 31st October 2013, 22:33 Quote
Ordered! Got the 32Gb version in black from the Google Play UK. I've been waiting for this phone for a year (ever since Google botched the launch of the Nexus 4)... a lot of money but a lot less than any other phone.
Tichinde 31st October 2013, 22:34 Quote
Ordered :)

It's replacing my HTC Sensation and I can't wait.
Been waiting on this since I chose to pass on the LG G2.

Plus side, it'll arrive on my birthday :D
sandys 31st October 2013, 22:44 Quote
Nice bit of kit, I just picked up its relative the LG G2, its awesome, this Nexus would have been preferable as its a 100quid cheaper, damn I'm a tight gift giver :D G2s screen is awesome though and the phone seems to come in smaller than my Xperia Z despite large 3kmA battery, not far off the size of this 5 either.
Kruelnesws 31st October 2013, 23:19 Quote
3 things I hate in a phone :
1. No removable back
2. No removable battery
3. No micro SD Slot
This has all three
PASS...
Guinevere 1st November 2013, 00:00 Quote
You want removable batteries on your phone?... Oh you guys and your desire to be rocking gadgets like it's 2001. The world has moved on people.

Just get an external USB one and be done with it. Top up when you need. Bit by bit if you need. Keep your device battery topped up and thus better conditioned. Use it on any device you like, even two at a time... and all without having to shut down your phone, take your phone apart, swap out a battery and reboot.

And not one of you mentions how you recharge the now dead battery without going through the whole process all over again.
faugusztin 1st November 2013, 00:49 Quote
The only issue with 4.4 is that they thrown out Galaxy Nexus from the updates. At least it has 4.3 which most of the phones still don't have.
dyzophoria 1st November 2013, 01:44 Quote
@Kruelnesws

are those things really that important on a phone for that price? :p
runadumb 1st November 2013, 01:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere


And not one of you mentions how you recharge the now dead battery without going through the whole process all over again.

I did. I put it in a charging cradle while swapping it for a fully charged battery. Couldn't be simpler. No tethering your phone tothe mains, battery backup for hours on end.
Fanatic 1st November 2013, 02:02 Quote
No SD meh. Milking the public to buy extra storage in phones is an Apple gimmick. You can guarantee the price difference between the 16/32/64(is there one?) is not representative of the price difference of SD storage.

Buy any other decent spec Android phone with basic 16gb and chuck a £15 32gb sd card in it.
Xir 1st November 2013, 08:09 Quote
Where do you insert the SIM-card?
Yslen 1st November 2013, 08:13 Quote
"5in AMOLED screen"

"Full HD IPS"

One of these is incorrect, and I suspect it's not the one on the official Google spec list.

Also, I have no issues with the lack of an SD card slot. I bought a 32GB card for my GS3 and removed it when it started playing up, haven't missed it, still plenty of room on the (16GB) phone. I suppose if you listen to music a lot it might be an issue if you don't have unlimited data/decent signal.
Meanmotion 1st November 2013, 09:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Yslen
One of these is incorrect, and I suspect it's not the one on the official Google spec list.
.

Oh dear, not my finest hour.
Meanmotion 1st November 2013, 09:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
You want removable batteries on your phone?... Oh you guys and your desire to be rocking gadgets like it's 2001. The world has moved on people.

Just get an external USB one and be done with it. Top up when you need. Bit by bit if you need. Keep your device battery topped up and thus better conditioned. Use it on any device you like, even two at a time... and all without having to shut down your phone, take your phone apart, swap out a battery and reboot.

And not one of you mentions how you recharge the now dead battery without going through the whole process all over again.

If you're packing for a long flight, or a busy day where you know you're going to be on your feet all day it's far more convenient having a tiny little spare battery in your bag than a much bulkier recharging unit and charging cable.

Like so many things in tech, the manufacturers have followed the masses, cutting costs where they can. So if the majority of the public don't buy spare batteries or microSD cards then it makes a lot of business sense to drop them. That doesn't change the fact that the phones are better with them.
Tangster 1st November 2013, 09:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kruelnesws
3 things I hate in a phone :
1. No removable back
2. No removable battery
3. No micro SD Slot
This has all three
PASS...

That's why I'm rocking a cheap chinese smartphone.

Quad core(though not a very powerful one, roughly equal to the Nexus 4 or the HTC One X+ in benches), removable back with removable 3000mAH battery, microSD slot and dual sim with a 4.5" 720p IPS screen.
Works with my USB DACs too once I'd rooted it and changed the kernel.

Not too shabby for £130 shipped.
CowBlazed 1st November 2013, 09:47 Quote
Removable SD cards have lost most of their use since Google decided not to allow apps be stored on them. $400 outright for the 32GB version is a steal. Some might enjoy carrying around thousands of hours of music at one time perhaps due to the 60GB+ iPods of old they're used to.

Now music is easily streamed and stored on cloud storage.
Meanmotion 1st November 2013, 09:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by CowBlazed
Removable SD cards have lost most of their use since Google decided not to allow apps be stored on them. $400 outright for the 32GB version is a steal. Some might enjoy carrying around thousands of hours of music at one time perhaps due to the 60GB+ iPods of old they're used to.

Now music is easily streamed and stored on cloud storage.

Contrary to popular belief, there is plenty of music not available on the likes of Spotify and Napster. This notion that 'hey, you can just stream it all' is bunkum. Also, compare the transfer speeds of a good microSD to onboard storage and you may change your tune. Also, in terms of just general portable storage, the more the merrier - no more USB sticks.
Tangster 1st November 2013, 10:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by CowBlazed
Removable SD cards have lost most of their use since Google decided not to allow apps be stored on them. $400 outright for the 32GB version is a steal. Some might enjoy carrying around thousands of hours of music at one time perhaps due to the 60GB+ iPods of old they're used to.

Now music is easily streamed and stored on cloud storage.

I really don't want to listened to compressed, streamed music. I'll keep my locally stored flac files thanks.
Gareth Halfacree 1st November 2013, 10:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Contrary to popular belief, there is plenty of music not available on the likes of Spotify and Napster. This notion that 'hey, you can just stream it all' is bunkum.
What about Google Music? That lets you upload 10,000 (or was it 20,000? I forget) of your own songs for free streaming (or download) to any Android device or web browser. Neatly solves the "the stuff I like isn't available on A. N. Other Streaming Service" problem. Did I mention it was free?
tonyd223 1st November 2013, 10:33 Quote
Errr, battery, no memory card expansion... So, probably a Galaxy Note 3 as a replacement for my Galaxy Note 1, and yes, I have big hands...

2 year contracts mean I miss a step, so new phone always a big step from last one...
Guinevere 1st November 2013, 10:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
If you're packing for a long flight, or a busy day where you know you're going to be on your feet all day it's far more convenient having a tiny little spare battery in your bag than a much bulkier recharging unit and charging cable.

I couldn't disagree more.

With my external battery I can easily keep my device(s) topped up and ready to go. I'll never get myself into a scenario where I'm carrying around a phone with a 20% charge and dead battery in my pocket... while trying to work out how I'm going to get both batteries back up to full charge for another full day tomorrow.

I guess I could leave my phone on charge somewhere? Or not bother charging up my spare? Or pack a charging station?
Guinevere 1st November 2013, 10:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by runadumb
I did. I put it in a charging cradle while swapping it for a fully charged battery.

So now it's convenient to carry around a charging cradle but it's not convenient to carry around a USB battery?

Colour me confuddled. For me convenience is having a fully charged battery at the bottom of my bag that I can use to top up ANY DEVICE I want ANY TIME and ANY WHERE.
bawjaws 1st November 2013, 10:50 Quote
One major downside of a non-removable battery is that batteries are prone to degradation after a reasonable period of time - the original battery for my S2 started to fail after less than 18 months, and wouldn't hold a charge (the famous "battery bulge" defect). Fortunately, I was able to source a replacement battery for less than a tenner and all was good, but if the battery had been non-removable then I'd have needed to buy a new phone, which quite frankly isn't acceptable.
Gareth Halfacree 1st November 2013, 10:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by bawjaws
[...] if the battery had been non-removable then I'd have needed to buy a new phone, which quite frankly isn't acceptable.
This. Although there's really no such thing as a non-removable battery: they all just vary in how much effort you need to expend in order to remove them... (Yes, yes, goodbye Nexus 4/5 warranty, but if your battery is needing replacing *within* warranty then get Google/LG to do it for free.)
phuzz 1st November 2013, 11:08 Quote
You know what I'm looking for in my next phone? A *smaller* screen.
Because a smaller screen means a smaller phone, and I don't really need a whole 5" to check my emails or call someone, and I never need to watch video on my phone. A smaller phone would be that bit easier to carry around.
Freemanator 1st November 2013, 11:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Contrary to popular belief, there is plenty of music not available on the likes of Spotify and Napster. This notion that 'hey, you can just stream it all' is bunkum.
What about Google Music? That lets you upload 10,000 (or was it 20,000? I forget) of your own songs for free streaming (or download) to any Android device or web browser. Neatly solves the "the stuff I like isn't available on A. N. Other Streaming Service" problem. Did I mention it was free?

If you are in a poor signal area it's no help. But I do mainly agree, that while I'd like an SD card slot, it is not a deal breaker for me.

As for lack of a removable battery, there are decent options for smaller USB chargers. Here is a <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CEZJT2E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2PGPJL0BBLHLX">phone sized one</a>, and a <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005QILJ74/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=electronics">lipstick sized one</a>.

I've used a couple of Duracell ones for years, and they were great, but getting old and a pain to charge being mini USB,and not micro.
So I've just bought the one linked up the thread, and the lipstick one, to give me two options, a pocketsize and bag sized option.
Shirty 1st November 2013, 11:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz
You know what I'm looking for in my next phone? A *smaller* screen.
Because a smaller screen means a smaller phone, and I don't really need a whole 5" to check my emails or call someone, and I never need to watch video on my phone. A smaller phone would be that bit easier to carry around.

I have a 4.7" HTC One and a 3.5" Sony Xperia U. I hate to say it, but the Sony is definitely the easier object to handle and use.

Also whilst these ridiculously high density screens on flagship handsets are undeniably beautiful, the Xperia U at 280ppi is plenty usable as well.
Meanmotion 1st November 2013, 11:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meanmotion
If you're packing for a long flight, or a busy day where you know you're going to be on your feet all day it's far more convenient having a tiny little spare battery in your bag than a much bulkier recharging unit and charging cable.

I couldn't disagree more.

With my external battery I can easily keep my device(s) topped up and ready to go. I'll never get myself into a scenario where I'm carrying around a phone with a 20% charge and dead battery in my pocket... while trying to work out how I'm going to get both batteries back up to full charge for another full day tomorrow.

I guess I could leave my phone on charge somewhere? Or not bother charging up my spare? Or pack a charging station?

It's not a case of disagreeing. A battery that measures, say, 3x30x40mm is inherently more portable than one that measures at least twice as much (which most portable chargers do) and it means you don't have to spend a couple of hours hanging a charger of the side of your phone.

With two batteries you can guarantee lasting a whole busy day or pretty much any long haul flight. So you'll never have a dead battery in your pocket and a dead phone. The battery charger would go in your suit case. Or you can just charge both using USB once you're at your hotel/destination.

As I say, there isn't really an argument about which is more convenient, it's just whether you need that convenience. Many people feel they don't, I do.

Also, regarding being able to charge other devices as well.. what other devices? I carry a laptop and a smartphone. Even if I did carry tablet, a battery pack with enough charge to recharge that would be massive!
Meanmotion 1st November 2013, 11:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Contrary to popular belief, there is plenty of music not available on the likes of Spotify and Napster. This notion that 'hey, you can just stream it all' is bunkum.
What about Google Music? That lets you upload 10,000 (or was it 20,000? I forget) of your own songs for free streaming (or download) to any Android device or web browser. Neatly solves the "the stuff I like isn't available on A. N. Other Streaming Service" problem. Did I mention it was free?

Okay, you got me there. Still doesn't address having my whole collection with me at all times. Nor the other points mentioned.
timmehtimmeh 1st November 2013, 11:24 Quote
I am over the moon they finally released it! 32GB white one on order :)

Now if only the 10 and Projects Sauron and Gem would have launched at the same time - I would be a happy bunny.
Gareth Halfacree 1st November 2013, 11:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Okay, you got me there. Still doesn't address having my whole collection with me at all times. Nor the other points mentioned.
Didn't say it did. If you want a hundred odd gig of music with you at all times, the Nexus 5 (or any other phone with non-expandable storage) is not the phone for you. I merely pointed out that there are streaming solutions that have absolutely any music you want on them, and at least one of them was specifically developed to help people cope with having a mere 8GB (the model of Nexus 4 Google genuinely, and incorrectly, thought would be the most popular) of local storage.

Me? I don't really feel the need to have my entire collection with me at all times. There's a lot of stuff I don't listen to except on certain occasions - the dual-CD Classic Disney album, for example, is great for when Alice is having a party, but not something I'm going to chill out to on the train.
r3loaded 1st November 2013, 11:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tangster
I really don't want to listened to compressed, streamed music. I'll keep my locally stored flac files thanks.
Well, I personally keep my music collection in FLAC, but when it comes to listening to it on my phone, I just stream it off Google Music where I've uploaded them as V0 VBR MP3s. The reason? The DAC on a phone is such that you won't notice the difference between a FLAC file and the MP3, even with good headphones. I've tested this with my Nexus 4 and Etymotic hf2.

There is the option of an external DAC, but it's definitely not worth the additional expense, bulk and hassle for listening to music while walking.
ArthurB 1st November 2013, 11:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Aracos
They're insanely useful, I got one a 12000mAh one a few weeks ago and love it ;)
I have exactly the same battery! It's awesome! :)

It was also the only one I could find that wasn't covered in glossy plastic (which I absolutely hate).
ArthurB 1st November 2013, 11:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by r3loaded
The DAC on a phone is such that you won't notice the difference between a FLAC file and the MP3, even with good headphones. I've tested this with my Nexus 4 and Etymotic hf2.
Do you think you could tell the difference with more expensive headphones like the Beyerdynamic T1's?
Tangster 1st November 2013, 11:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by ArthurB
Do you think you could tell the difference with more expensive headphones like the Beyerdynamic T1's?

I don't think you should be running a T1 off a smartphone anyway.

I usually use a USB DAC with my IEMs so the difference is noticeable in some(maybe 1/3) of my tracks over straight V0 streams or files. Not noticeable when I'm travelling around, but I don't typically wear my IEMs when travelling since it'd be suicide to use them while cycling.
sixfootsideburns 1st November 2013, 17:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by ArthurB
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Originally Posted by r3loaded
The DAC on a phone is such that you won't notice the difference between a FLAC file and the MP3, even with good headphones. I've tested this with my Nexus 4 and Etymotic hf2.
Do you think you could tell the difference with more expensive headphones like the Beyerdynamic T1's?

Running cans like the T1's off a phone, ipod, or anything of the such without an amp or a DAC is just a collosal waste. In line with that (in my opinion), uploading FLAC files to your phone is just as silly. The audible difference is minimal at best for 95% of listeners (myself included). And the other 5% I can't imagine the difference is very large. A 320 encode is going to serve you 99% of the quality at 15% of the space when your on the go, so I can't understand why people would complain about space.

Hell... 64GB of store space still wouldn't be enough for lots of people. Last I checked my music collection required something like 300GB and I'm sure some people's collections dwarf mine.
sixfootsideburns 1st November 2013, 17:52 Quote
double post...
sixfootsideburns 1st November 2013, 17:52 Quote
double post
Yslen 1st November 2013, 17:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by ArthurB
Quote:
Originally Posted by r3loaded
The DAC on a phone is such that you won't notice the difference between a FLAC file and the MP3, even with good headphones. I've tested this with my Nexus 4 and Etymotic hf2.
Do you think you could tell the difference with more expensive headphones like the Beyerdynamic T1's?

All the phones and tablets I've owned or used sound very bad, good headphones just reveal the extent of the problem.
bawjaws 1st November 2013, 17:58 Quote
I'd not bother with anything better than 320kbps for music on my phone, personally. That said, I don't think I'd be happy with 16GB of non-expendable storage, and even 32GB would be an issue.
Telltale Boy 1st November 2013, 17:59 Quote
So I've just ordered the 32GB version for £350 from the Play store but I'm considering going to get the 16GB version from CPW for £295.

My last smartphone had a 32GB microsd card but once I put all my music on my sansa clip I didn't necessarily use all of it. I've got pretty good mobile internet too.

What do you guys think then? Is the extra £55 worth it for double the memory?
sandys 1st November 2013, 18:07 Quote
Yes, you can't upgrade it down the line and the OS will munch 5gb
CowBlazed 2nd November 2013, 12:24 Quote
I think the 32GB is worth the extra cost. More space to actually install apps to and use for whatever you like and not just media storage as any SD expansion slot would give you.

16GB is certainly useable it just may require more juggling of files. Also 4.4 KitKat has reduced the Android install footprint somewhat.
hakank 2nd November 2013, 20:16 Quote
this or a HTC One Max ?
timmehtimmeh 4th November 2013, 18:45 Quote
Keywords: ok google not working nexus 5.

I can't seem to get my 'OK Google' working on my nexus 5 from the home screen, I've been here for 5 minutes saying it over and over. OK Google. OK google?
...

I feel like Scotty!

Ah a keyboard... How quaint.


Perhaps I'll punch up the recepie for transparent aluminum...

On a serious not. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
timmehtimmeh 4th November 2013, 18:54 Quote
Aha fixed it! Remove English UK and your good to go. Wohoo I am Scotty!

I need the keywords changed from OK Google to OK computer now.
supermonkey 4th November 2013, 19:16 Quote
I think it's interesting that people complain about needing expandable storage because they insist on carrying their entire collection of lossless music (only to play that music on a phone with poor quality headphones), but you never see anyone talk about wanting to carry their entire collection of MKV video files from all those Blu-ray backups.

I'm also bit curious how many SD cards people routinely carry with them in order to hold all that music.
sandys 4th November 2013, 20:40 Quote
its not just music, its the fact that once you put a few apps on, a few tunes and then use all the features when out and about, high res photo, 1080p video it fills up and is useless, what is the point of fancy cameras etc you can't really use.
Ficky Pucker 4th November 2013, 22:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by supermonkey
I think it's interesting that people complain about needing expandable storage because they insist on carrying their entire collection of lossless music (only to play that music on a phone with poor quality headphones), but you never see anyone talk about wanting to carry their entire collection of MKV video files from all those Blu-ray backups.

I'm also bit curious how many SD cards people routinely carry with them in order to hold all that music.

my entire music collection ripped to mp3 @ V0 totals at 44.4GB as of today and it grows with each day...
Gareth Halfacree 4th November 2013, 22:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by sandys
its not just music, its the fact that once you put a few apps on, a few tunes and then use all the features when out and about, high res photo, 1080p video it fills up and is useless, what is the point of fancy cameras etc you can't really use.
I've got a Nexus 4 that I've had since it was relatively new. I use it quite heavily, and have a shedload of apps and games installed. I also use not only its built-in eight megapixel camera, but also a Sony QX100 20 megapixel Wi-Fi 'Smart Lens' camera that slaves to it. According to Android, out of the 12.92GB usable space I'm allotted from the 16GB, I've got 5.98GB still left.

Now, my Sony Xperia Tablet Z is a different story altogether. That's got 32GB of internal storage with about 9GB free, and a 64GB micro-SD with about 3GB free - 'cos it's full of PDFs downloaded from The Internet Archive. That's a different tool, though - and I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't have expandable storage, 'cos I knew I'd want to load a bunch of roughly 600MB PDFs on it for offline reading.
AlexB 4th November 2013, 23:11 Quote
I love mine.
sandys 4th November 2013, 23:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
I've got a Nexus 4 that I've had since it was relatively new. I use it quite heavily, and have a shedload of apps and games installed. I also use not only its built-in eight megapixel camera, but also a Sony QX100 20 megapixel Wi-Fi 'Smart Lens' camera that slaves to it. According to Android, out of the 12.92GB usable space I'm allotted from the 16GB, I've got 5.98GB still left.

That's all well and good for you, the apps you use for the moment are obviously small, once upon a time I ran an android smart phone with 192Mb app storage and it was fine too, now you can't even install candy crush on it after google app updates these days as the apps have grown in size exponentially, nevermind the likes of real racing or some of the stuff from the likes of the humble bundles.

Google upped max app size from 50Mb to 4Gb last year I doubt they did it for a laugh.

A small 16Gb phone soon becomes a lesson in data management, well for those of us who don't rely on cloud, my sat nav maps take 3gb of my internal alone, nevermind podcasts, magazines, music etc, For the small charge from 16 to 32 from google I can't understand a 16Gb recommendation.

Does your smart lens not have its own sd card slot? I can't see many photos and videos staying n that phone, A day videoing my daughter learning to ride takes big chunks out of mine at 1080p.
Gareth Halfacree 4th November 2013, 23:57 Quote
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That's all well and good for you, the apps you use for the moment are obviously small [...]
No, they're really not. However, I do uninstall the larger games when I'm finished with them.
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For the small charge from 16 to 32 from google I can't understand a 16Gb recommendation.
Who's recommending a 16GB phone? The Nexus 4 was available in 8GB or 16GB models, so I bought the largest I could; were I buying a Nexus 5, which I'm not, I'd buy the 32GB one. Like you say, it's a no-brainer: if you're buying a phone with non-upgradeable storage, buy the biggest internal storage you can afford.
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Does your smart lens not have its own sd card slot? I can't see many photos and videos staying n that phone, A day videoing my daughter learning to ride takes big chunks out of mine at 1080p.
Aye, it does. Everything you shoot or record is stored on a micro-SD card (I've got an 8GB in there at the moment). You also get the option of having each image automatically transferred to the phone via Wi-Fi: this can either be disabled, set to transfer a two megapixel down-sized version good for sharing on social networking sites, or to transfer the full 20 megapixel image. I usually have it set to the two megapixel mode: gives me something I can immediately share, and then I've got the 20 megapixel original to edit later if the photo is heading to a magazine or the like.
supermonkey 5th November 2013, 02:22 Quote
I guess that's one of the things that shapes the overall argument of whether or not a phone should have expandable storage (and if it doesn't, how much storage is 'enough'). Perhaps the hardware is struggling to keep up with the extremely rapid pace of our expectations about what exactly a smartphone device is supposed to do. It seems that some people out there expect to be able to carry their entire music collection, as well as store several HD movies, multiple large games, and miscellaneous large applications. In many ways the tech industry is still trying to get a handle on the burgeoning era of big data.

Sure, my DSLR has a slot for a memory card. I currently use an 8GB memory card and it can hold over 600 raw images. Of course, it's just a camera so I don't expect it to hold 5 months worth of music in addition to everything else I want to store.

I know I sound old and curmudgeony. Personally, I think an SD card slot is just another place for dust and pocket lint to gather, so I'd rather as much internal storage as the device can manage (while remaining as inexpensive as possible).
Atomic 5th November 2013, 12:24 Quote
For only £40 more than the 16GB you'd have to be mad not to buy the 32GB version!

It's taken me the best part of a day to move everything over from my iPhone 4, but so far I'm liking having an Android phone except the phone dialer app which is a little over complicated.
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