Windows 8 was unveiled last week at the Build developers' conference in California.
Adobe has stated that it expects tablets and PCs running Microsoft's recently-unveiled Windows 8 operating system to support Flash
'just fine'.
On the
Adobe Flash Platform Blog, the company revealed that the content supported by the new OS would include
rich web based games and premium videos,' following Microsoft's earlier
announcement that the Internet Explorer browser in the operating system's Metro interface wouldn't support plug-ins.
Microsoft said it had worked hard to make Metro rely as little as possible on older technologies. Instead it had concentrated on the latest version of web technology - HTML 5.
This is still the case, but Adobe has pointed out that you'll still be able to access Flash content if you go back the Windows desktop interface, rather than the flashy new Metro interface. As such, people using a standard computer to browse the Internet are unlikely to be affected, but viewing Flash content isn't going to be easy on tablets that take advantage of the Metro system.
Adobe says it hopes to get around this problem using its AIR platform, as it does with current tablets based on Android, iOS and the BlackBerry tablet OS. However, Apple's iPad, the best-selling tablet out there has still seen excellent sales without native Flash support.
Do you think tablets running Windows 8 will be a hit? Should Flash support be essential on tablets? Let us know in the
forum.
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Discuss in the forums Replyand hope that i can get by without Flash, its horrible.
we just need youtube to catchup and remove the requirement for flash
Except that it is not in flash. I'd like to see a tablet on which you can install whatever OS you want (a linux ?)
Really Apple has nice product ... but I can't bear Apple and it politics (fat melon head ?).
shhhhh ... adobe could hear you :)
Why would it die? It's less CPU intensive than HTML5, and video playback uses the GPU, unlike HTML5. Plus HTML5 is limited compared to Flash.
It's not quite correct to state that HTML5 doesn't use the GPU for video playback. Of course the spec itself is somewhat orthogonal to browser implementations, but I believe development of GPU accelerated HTML5 is well underway for all of the major browsers.
But I can't use flash on my iPad :D
Already it looks like Flash 11 64-bit is coming along, plus 3D support with GPU acceleration, and uses even more the GPU to render graphics, dropping the work load of the CPU, which should help boost battery life. Flash 11 is still in beta, but sounds promising.
Ideally, Flash should be full GPU rendered (as it should have been since day 1), and that would solve a big problem. As all that is Flash is doing is really easy to go for any GPU, but killer for the CPU.
Ace.
general public + bugs = steve jobs dancing around
Bold moves, but also good moves I think; and ones which may actually benefit the user in the longer-term; not just Microsoft.
It doesn't have a requirement for flash though. I can browse youtube quite happily on my iPad and iPhone. Never encountered a video it couldn't play.
LOL. I know where you're coming from but sheesh, you're the worst defence lawyer ever!
Yes, there are tasks where HTML 5 uses more CPU than Flash. But to side with flash based on it's low CPU usage! No, no and thrice no. It's a CPU hog, that is THE main user end issue with flash.
(The other big issue is web deliverable apps would remove the revenue stream of "app stores")
Edit:
Rep given to all fellow flash haters :)
I am obviously not talking about that. I am talking about video, audio, and animations.
Doing a website in full Flash and such, is plain idiotic. These are people who don't know how to use Flash. Same for Java, and Java-Script. There are proper way, and optimized ways to do things. When it's well programmed, and well used on both, is what I am comparing.
Same here. Like plenty of others I've cracked jokes about the lack of Flash on iPhones etc. but in reality it seemed like a move for the best to me, even if it just put some fire under Adobe to improve Flash.
I'd still rather see a plugin-less standard taking over, even with all of the controversy surrounding the implementation of HTML5.
"3.0" fixed in "3.11"
"95" fixed in "98"
"ME" fixed in "2000"/"XP"
"Vista" fixed in "7"
"8" fixed in ...
kind of like Intel's "Tick-Tock" schedule except MS has a "great new features" (/experimental) version followed by a "functional & stable features" version.
98 sucks, it took 98 SE.
2000/XP has no relation to Me. Windows 2000 is using the NT kernel, while Me used Win9x kernel (MSDOS embedded).
XP is the OS that merged Win9x for Home computers, with WinNT for business into 1 OS.
XP was awful OS at start, it took SP2 to actually make it good.
Vista was actually pretty good if you had all the drivers, and a modern PC.
It was working?
yes, you can disable it. but why bother with it in the first place?
sorry, i much prefer my 10 hour ipad 2. ipad is the only device i have ever owned to allow me to use it without thinking about draining battery. no other devices had able to do that. they are either too powerful that drains battery in minutes (laptops), or too underpowered making them useless for any task. (netbooks, smartphone's tiny screen)
does way more than a ipad can do and is small- has a keyboard.. usb to connect my devices that are illegal to apple and a lot cheaper
it's just different strokes for different folks =] some people use their laptops for more than browsing the net.. like maybe they want to shock their balls through the usb portsy.. apple says no- your stuck.. same argument though- if browse the net, why do you need anything more