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Help CERN in the hunt for the Higgs Boson

Help CERN in the hunt for the Higgs Boson

CERN will use the vast computing power of home PCs to aid LHC research

The Citizen Cyberscience Centre based at CERN, launched a new version of LHC@home today.

You've probably heard of Folding@Home or Seti@Home - both are distributed computing programs designed to harness the power of your average home PC to number crunch data, aiding real scientific research.

LHC@home, as science fans will probably have already guessed, is a similar venture for the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). The latest version of the Citizen Cyberscience Centre's software, called LHC@home 2.0, simulates collisions between two beams of protons travelling at close to the speed of light in the LHC.

Professor Dave Britton of the University of Glasgow is Project Leader of the GridPP project that provides Grid computing for particle physics throughout the UK. He is a member of the ATLAS collaboration, one of the experiments at the LHC and had this to say about LHC@home 2.0 and the Citizen Cyberscience Centre:

'Scientists like me are trying to answer fundamental questions about the structure and origin of the Universe. Through the Citizen Cyberscience Centre and its volunteers around the world, the Grid computing tools and techniques that I use everyday are available to scientists in developing countries, giving them access to the latest computing technology and the ability to solve the problems that they are facing, such as providing clean water.

Whether you’re interested in finding the Higgs boson, playing a part in humanitarian aid or advancing knowledge in developing countries, this is a great project to get involved with.
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You can check out the LHC@home home page here. Have you taken part in Seti or Folding? Maybe you're already in the hunt for the Higgs Boson? Let us know in the forum.

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javaman 9th August 2011, 10:52 Quote
I want to see the benchmarks first
gilljoy 9th August 2011, 11:20 Quote
The important question is, what are we going to call it? LHCing just doesnt have the ring to it
Fantus 9th August 2011, 11:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by gilljoy
The important question is, what are we going to call it? LHCing just doesnt have the ring to it

Colliding?
Phalanx 9th August 2011, 11:33 Quote
Colliding@Home? It's like some random drunk house party! :p
Parge 9th August 2011, 11:42 Quote
This is nice, but surely Folding@home is more important?
Phalanx 9th August 2011, 11:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
This is nice, but surely Folding@home is more important?

It's a choice, isn't it? Personally I've become disillusioned with Folding@home.
Material 9th August 2011, 11:53 Quote
It's difficult to say (nobody wants to stand up and say trying to cure cancer isn't a noble cause) but i'd certainly find searching for the Higgs a more compelling goal than watching proteins fold.

Having said that the LHC@home site is arse, they don't make it very easy to sign up.
Krikkit 9th August 2011, 12:02 Quote
...And being currently closed beta it's now full too... :(

I'm looking forward to having a look at this, if the client shows info on what it's crunching then it'll be a great insight.
Spreadie 9th August 2011, 12:30 Quote
All this talk of finding the Higgs Boson is giving me a hadron.

*gets coat*
fingerbob69 9th August 2011, 12:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by gilljoy
The important question is, what are we going to call it? LHCing just doesnt have the ring to it

How about

GodSearch@home ???

or simply

HuntTheThimble@home ???
masterjonny 9th August 2011, 13:43 Quote
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We decided to use one single core for running the virtual machine. We know that there are a lot of users with several cores available, and in the future we will try to use all the available ones according to the BOINC user preferences.

Are they mad? Restricting to one CPU in todays world is plain crazy.
Phalanx 9th August 2011, 13:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by masterjonny
Are they mad? Restricting to one CPU in todays world is plain crazy.

It's in beta? Get it stable before opening up the cores.
borandi 9th August 2011, 13:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by Parge
This is nice, but surely Folding@home is more important?

Folding@Home is relatively useless. Conformal energy optimisation of proteins using random seeds - don't get me started. Might as well be studying where a ball lands after you bounce it, if you actually read the output of the research group.

LHC@Home has been going on for ages. No wait, actually years. I donated a considerable amount of time to it over five years ago (think 15 PCs worth). Back then, they were using the public before their supercomputers were up online to help optimise the magnet settings for different particle streams. Much more exciting than Folding@Home.
sakzzz 9th August 2011, 14:37 Quote
How would the guys at CERN help me get "cleaner water" ? o_O
masterjonny 9th August 2011, 15:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krikkit
...And being currently closed beta it's now full too... :(

I didn't find that. Follow the instructions to get the apps, you make your account during the BOINC setup, after it's asked for a restart. Then it's away :?

Follow the instructions here: http://boinc01.cern.ch/join-us
thehippoz 9th August 2011, 17:40 Quote
not to mention folding@home is not optimized for ati.. there's other ways to use your graphics cards too like pyrit

did a dictionary attack of 2.3 billion pass phrases in 6 and half hours yesterday (one ati 6970).. have the server setup remote to upload caps..

bitcoins value has tanked- getting 422 Mhash/sec btw on the same card.. they say they are going to issue 25 coins per block next year to keep the value up but I've already pulled out for good.. had close to a 1000 Mhash but at that rate your looking at 3+weeks per block solo

this might be interesting to see.. as long as huang doesn't get involved, shows up with some wood screws and a briefcase full of cash
KayinBlack 9th August 2011, 18:14 Quote
I still see World Community Grid as a far superior use of my PC's time.

What, exactly, will finding the Higgs boson even DO anyway?
Canon 9th August 2011, 18:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by KayinBlack
I still see World Community Grid as a far superior use of my PC's time.

What, exactly, will finding the Higgs boson even DO anyway?

That's it.....i'm calling him and telling him about this thread. :)

http://www.giamilinovich.com/horizon/brian_finger.jpg
KayinBlack 9th August 2011, 18:34 Quote
...and who is that?

(though the pic is funny...)
Canon 9th August 2011, 18:38 Quote
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javaman 9th August 2011, 18:46 Quote
@sakzzz they'll change the water in our bowels from time to time when they become god.

How about minibigbang@home or banging@home for short
play_boy_2000 9th August 2011, 19:32 Quote
I see all these people doing f@h, but have any major breakthroughs occured to justify the massive amout of power being used?
thehippoz 9th August 2011, 21:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by KayinBlack
I still see World Community Grid as a far superior use of my PC's time.

What, exactly, will finding the Higgs boson even DO anyway?
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Originally Posted by wiki
In the science fantasy series Lexx, it is said that planets which develop on a path similar to Earth are sometimes destroyed by all-out nuclear war, but it is much more common for such planets to be obliterated by physicists attempting to determine the precise mass of the Higgs boson particle. The particle colliders used to perform the calculations reach critical mass at the moment the mass of the particle is known, causing an implosion which destroys the planet and then collapses it into a nugget of super-dense matter "roughly the size of a pea."[1]

:D so when we figure it out.. the game's over
MajestiX 10th August 2011, 06:08 Quote
Green@Home

stop our mass consumption of non renewable resources and switch off
Aragon Speed 10th August 2011, 07:43 Quote
And for those, who like me, were wondering who the hell Higgs Boson was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
Journeyer 11th August 2011, 11:53 Quote
Cool.
I did run SETI@home several years ago, and I might sign up for this.
mucgoo 11th August 2011, 11:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Aragon Speed
And for those, who like me, were wondering who the hell Higgs Boson was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

Do most folding@home's understand protein folding either?
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