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Win a Green Gadgets LP-170 Pico-ITX OEM kit

Win a Green Gadgets LP-170 Pico-ITX OEM kit

Can you turn this dinky bit of kit into a desirable piece of modding handiwork?

Green Gadgets and bit-tech have teamed up to offer you the chance to win a Green Gadgets LP-170 Pico-ITX OEM kit, which is the same kit that forms the foundation of the Green Gadgets LP-170 PC.

The kit includes a tiny Pico-ITX Commell LP-170 motherboard, which packs an Intel Atom D525 processor and all the wires and cables needed to wire up the board. To see exactly what comes in the kit, check out the video at the bottom of this post.

So what do you have to do to win this compact piece of kit? Well, we’re looking for a modder to take this dinky board and do something creative with it. The rest is up to you; the only limitation is that whoever wins the board must agree to post a project log of the resulting mod in our own modding forums.

All you need to do to be in with a chance of winning the board is simply tell us, in 50 words or less, what you would do with the board if you won and how the resulting mod would be used. To enter, send your entries to modding@bit-tech.net and we’ll pick a winner in due course. You can take your time to think up an idea, though, as the competition doesn’t close until midnight on Tuesday 12 April.

Bear in mind that it won’t necessarily be the most outlandish or ridiculous suggestion that gets the nod; we’ll also be looking for practicality and suitability when picking through your ideas. If you say you’re going to send it to the moon, you'd better hope you can convince us it’s possible in 50 words or less. You're also free to provide mock ups or CAD sketches with your entry, although they're not essential.

Meanwhile, for those of you wondering just what’s possible with a Pico-ITX motherboard, we’ve included a couple of shots of the beautifully formed Level Eleven Pico-ITX produced by our very own Jeffrey Stephenson (slipperyskip on the forums).

Are you up for the challenge? Have you wanted to experiment with a Pico-ITX build for a while now? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.


Win a Green Gadgets LP-170 Pico-ITX OEM kit Win a Green Gadgets LP-170 Pico-ITX OEM kit

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yogev_ezra 5th April 2011, 15:08 Quote
Here is a YouTube video of this board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGSb0KKDNg
Link to manufacturer's Support page (you can find User Manual, drivers, BIOS updates there): http://www.commell.com.tw/Support/Product%20Technical%20Support/LP-170.htm

Hope that helps to everyone who is willing to participate in the contest. Sorry for the unclear speech as I have a small speech defect and could not find anybody else to take the video yesterday :o
pimlicosound 5th April 2011, 15:13 Quote
That's a beautiful example of a Pico-ITX PC. Round of those corners and my wife would love that.
mi1ez 5th April 2011, 15:30 Quote
Ooooh! Nice prize!
DeadP1xels 5th April 2011, 16:06 Quote
Emailed something

EXTREMELY difficult trying to describe what you want to do in 50 words though makes everything sound alot more bland and unintresting and forgot to mention and important bit that if i said now would make it sound even more unintresting and boring

I would wallmount it :/
MrJay 5th April 2011, 16:32 Quote
Id conceal it in a standard house brick sized housing so it could be incorporated into a non load bearing section of wall, run power and cabling etc in between the two brick courses to wherever you want the inputs/outputs and make a removable faceplate that could be hidden/rendered over. Maybe leave a few USBs visible as well as the on/off switch.

Could then be used for some kind of house automation project or a sneaky storage point : )
Xtrafresh 5th April 2011, 16:37 Quote
worldwide compo? If so, then big fat kudos for ticking ALL the boxes of what i'd want to see in a mod!

I'll mock up my ideas tonight, i have had something nice in my mind for a long while! :)
Angel OD 5th April 2011, 16:41 Quote
A PicoITX is involved in my Autumn mod... I know EXACTLY how it's going to be, but hey... Gotta save up the money for then! :)
Flibblebot 5th April 2011, 16:51 Quote
Damn! If only I had an ounce of creativity :( :(
I'm guessing "put it in a case" doesn't really count, does it? That's about the limit of my modding capabilities :D
asura 5th April 2011, 17:00 Quote
MrJay, why wimp out with a non-loadbearing housing; some 6.75mm steel and a little bit of ingeneuity on an internal layout should allow it to be fully loadbearing!
tad2008 5th April 2011, 17:03 Quote
Competition entered! Looking forward to reading how the final entries pan out and some of the top ideas that come up for this.
Material 5th April 2011, 17:11 Quote
Just to confirm for those interested - this is a worldwide competition.
Omnituens 5th April 2011, 17:25 Quote
Only idea I have for a case mod is W/C based mod. And even then, I don't have the tools, materials or time to make it sadly.
yogev_ezra 5th April 2011, 17:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadP1xels
EXTREMELY difficult trying to describe what you want to do in 50 words though makes everything sound alot more bland and unintresting and forgot to mention and important bit that if i said now would make it sound even more unintresting and boring
I did not make up the contest rules - I asked Bit-Tech to create them. The only requirement I gave is that the winner will have to post the modding log and photos here on Bit-Tech forums.

However, the rules Paul came up with seem very fair to me, as:
1) If they allow for longer e-mails, they might not have the time to read everything or might not have the time to read all contest entries.
2) You can send a drawing instead of typing text. The drawing will tell it all.
3) Just consider it as a job interview. You want a job, the HR person tells you, describe why you suit our company in 50 words. You answer - hey, I cannot, it's too short. The HR person says - sorry, you are not qualified then. I know it's harsh, but there is nothing wrong in it. The hiring party (Bit-Tech in this case) can choose the rules.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel OD
A PicoITX is involved in my Autumn mod... I know EXACTLY how it's going to be, but hey... Gotta save up the money for then! :)
The winner is entitled (only after he/she starts the project log on Bit-Tech forum) to receive additional stuff of his/her choice worth up to $100 USA. So it can be for example Broadcom HD card + second VGA card, or RAM, or small SSD, or anything else that he/she needs. I hope this info will help you decide to submit your idea.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flibblebot
Damn! If only I had an ounce of creativity :( :(
I'm guessing "put it in a case" doesn't really count, does it? That's about the limit of my modding capabilities :D
Taking into account that the only case suitable for this board that exists in the world today is in my hands, and you are not getting it as part of the competition prize, this seems creative enough for me as you would have to make the whole case yourself :D
Guinevere 5th April 2011, 17:48 Quote
I've sent in my idea, I've gone with an idea that's been buzzing around in my brain for ages. It's been keeping my "Ceiling mounted HTPC & Screen" idea company.

(Fools stick together)
fingerbob69 5th April 2011, 17:52 Quote
I wonder if this is what he Antec Skeleton was designed for?
Cheapskate 5th April 2011, 18:27 Quote
Honestly, I think mounting something so tiny as a permanent fixture is a crime. Put a handle on it and make it Optimus Prime's man-purse.:D
Deadpunkdave 5th April 2011, 18:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by fingerbob69
I wonder if this is what he Antec Skeleton was designed for?

In terms of cooling, size, intrusiveness and just about everything else, that would be using a nuclear missile to crack a nut.
IcyAero 5th April 2011, 19:15 Quote
I sent my email.

What I would do, is hit two flies with one hit.
Firstly, build my first ever case mod or even scratch case from wood and therefore make my long-waited dream come true. Secondly, as I'm moving out of town, my parents are left without any PC. This way, I'd get to build my first ever (serious) case mod and then donate it for my parents for web browsing! Idea of the case plan itself remains secret.. :)
Angel OD 5th April 2011, 19:30 Quote
Unfortunately it's not a moneyproblem. I just don't have the time to start it out now. I gotta finish my G5, and then it's on to watercooling my carpc.
And it hardly wouldn't be fair to win on the idea and then wait to start the worklog up in september..

That's why I gotta wait. :)
schmidtbag 5th April 2011, 19:30 Quote
My idea would typically consist of multiple pico-itx boards, but 1 is still doable. since pico-itx has a form factor smaller than 4", it would definitely fit in the 5.25" drive bays, possibly even the HDD bays.

My idea was to take a full atx case with at least 4 (preferably more) 5.25" drive bays. The front of these bays should be a mesh material, just like this case. Zoom in to see the texture. All slots would consist of one the LP-170s. Behind each one I would mount fans that would suck in air. Each LP-170 would have it's ports facing out the front of the computer. If you don't want people having access to the LP-170s, just stick the mesh 5.25" cover over it.

Then, I would put in any generic motherboard in the main tray of the tower, with several PCI or PCI-e 1x slots. Each slot would have an Ethernet adapter in it. This is so each of the LP-170s can connect as a cluster computer. The built-in Ethernet port in the motherboard would be the main Internet or LAN connection.

Next I would put in at least 2 hard drives. One would be for the main motherboard, the other would be for the cluster of LP-170s, which would do a network boot.

After, I would take each of the Molex and floppy power connectors, cut off the ends, and solder the proper end for the LP-170. Obviously I would add whatever components I need to make sure the voltage is correct.

As the final touch, the main power button of the tower would be used to power the main motherboard, and I would solder the reset button to turn on all of the LP-170s at the same time.

An external DVD drive would be needed to install the OSes.


Basically, my idea is to create a low-power cluster server inside of a desktop computer. Of course, you could just get an 8-core Xeon which would probably be faster, but also tremendously more expensive.
tad2008 5th April 2011, 22:06 Quote
A bit late in the day perhaps, but how about one of these boards with the dark rock pro cooler BT reviewed, lol
IaKoVl 5th April 2011, 23:51 Quote
had a nice idea, sent an email... who knows, might move from itx to pico
slipperyskip 6th April 2011, 01:00 Quote
Thanks for the L11 bump. Might also want to look ay my other Pico-ITX mod called Pico Bayard. It is a Pico board combined with a touchscreen in a common case.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=145093

The cooling solution I used makes it impossible to overheat because the CPU heatsink protrudes outside of the case. Good luck to all!
play_boy_2000 6th April 2011, 01:33 Quote
The product was so bad that the manufacture opted to have you give it away, rather then return the review sample?

:D
j_jay4 6th April 2011, 02:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by play_boy_2000
The product was so bad that the manufacture opted to have you give it away, rather then return the review sample?

:D

I don't think the review kit is up for grabs unless they've taken it out of the case as that's not included. I think the aim of this competition is to show cynics what can be done with such a small bit of kit.
dark_avenger 6th April 2011, 02:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by schmidtbag
My idea would typically consist of multiple pico-itx boards, but 1 is still doable. since pico-itx has a form factor smaller than 4", it would definitely fit in the 5.25" drive bays, possibly even the HDD bays.

My idea was to take a full atx case with at least 4 (preferably more) 5.25" drive bays. The front of these bays should be a mesh material, just like this case. Zoom in to see the texture. All slots would consist of one the LP-170s. Behind each one I would mount fans that would suck in air. Each LP-170 would have it's ports facing out the front of the computer. If you don't want people having access to the LP-170s, just stick the mesh 5.25" cover over it.

Then, I would put in any generic motherboard in the main tray of the tower, with several PCI or PCI-e 1x slots. Each slot would have an Ethernet adapter in it. This is so each of the LP-170s can connect as a cluster computer. The built-in Ethernet port in the motherboard would be the main Internet or LAN connection.

Next I would put in at least 2 hard drives. One would be for the main motherboard, the other would be for the cluster of LP-170s, which would do a network boot.

After, I would take each of the Molex and floppy power connectors, cut off the ends, and solder the proper end for the LP-170. Obviously I would add whatever components I need to make sure the voltage is correct.

As the final touch, the main power button of the tower would be used to power the main motherboard, and I would solder the reset button to turn on all of the LP-170s at the same time.

An external DVD drive would be needed to install the OSes.


Basically, my idea is to create a low-power cluster server inside of a desktop computer. Of course, you could just get an 8-core Xeon which would probably be faster, but also tremendously more expensive.

Was thinking of doing something similar, the old artigo Pico-ITX kits used to have the mounts for the 5 1/4 bays and all...
schmidtbag 6th April 2011, 03:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_avenger
Was thinking of doing something similar, the old artigo Pico-ITX kits used to have the mounts for the 5 1/4 bays and all...

well 2 great minds think alike. i wasn't aware of the artigo being able to mount in those drives.
Kiytan 6th April 2011, 03:13 Quote
Email sent.
My plan is basically empty out an old (spare) megadrive I have, install this in it (create holes for the USB slots for controllers to go into), then load it up with emulators and have it as a nice small, easy to transport, all-in-one retro gaming experience.
dark_avenger 6th April 2011, 03:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by schmidtbag
well 2 great minds think alike. i wasn't aware of the artigo being able to mount in those drives.

This is the kit, model before the one that BT reviewed
schmidtbag 6th April 2011, 04:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_avenger
This is the kit, model before the one that BT reviewed

damn well there goes my chance of winning the contest. however, doesn't appear to have good ventilation at all if you stick it inside a computer. my idea is designed with great airflow in mind.
yogev_ezra 6th April 2011, 08:02 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by play_boy_2000
The product was so bad that the manufacture opted to have you give it away, rather then return the review sample? :D
We've sent Bit-Tech 2 boards: one assembled in our chassis and the other as the OEM kit. The assembled board had to be returned to us and the OEM kit stayed at Bit-Tech office for the competition.

Here is a YouTube video of this board: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGSb0KKDNg
Link to manufacturer's Support page (you can find User Manual, drivers, BIOS updates there): http://www.commell.com.tw/Support/Product%20Technical%20Support/LP-170.htm

Hope that helps to everyone who is willing to participate in the contest. Sorry for the unclear speech as I have a small speech defect and could not find anybody else to take the video yesterday :o
tonyd223 6th April 2011, 12:29 Quote
OK, how about mounting two or four of these in a commodore 64 chassis and producing a Linux cluster computer...

Yes, I have no good ideas...
DeadP1xels 6th April 2011, 13:35 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by yogev_ezra
I did not make up the contest rules - I asked Bit-Tech to create them. The only requirement I gave is that the winner will have to post the modding log and photos here on Bit-Tech forums.

Im not argueing about it, i think the rules are very fair and it stops people spouting BS you're trying to get in the important info while getting in details its trying to be creative with what you say aswell as what you plan to make.

Heres praying but im not sure mine is quite creative enough i look forward to seeing the winners project log however! its rare to see pico-itx mods
asura 6th April 2011, 14:17 Quote
And she's off... Could be fun.
PureSilver 6th April 2011, 14:22 Quote
I submitted my idea - I'd have this thing in a rugged, passively-cooled milled aluminium case (sealed to IP67, naturally) with waterproof fittings. I'd strip a GPS dongle and a 3G dongle, and connect them to the internal USB fittings, then throw in a battery and make custom wiring for a 1.8" SSD etc.

Then, I'd hook it up to a Vuzix-style corner-of-eye display in my skiing goggles and a wrist-mounted keyboard, and use it to tell me my speed, altitude, location, weather, ski map etc. I could even hook up my helmet cam, and then upload videos wirelessly. Then while I'm cycling back in London, I can have it play me turn-by-turn satnav directions in my sunglasses...
IcyAero 6th April 2011, 16:49 Quote
What does the kit contain, exactly? Just the motherboard or also the power unit and some various connection cables such as USB(for front panel)?
DeadP1xels 6th April 2011, 16:49 Quote
Hey no fair James Bond can't enter he will have Q help him! ^
yogev_ezra 6th April 2011, 16:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyAero
What does the kit contain, exactly? Just the motherboard or also the power unit and some various connection cables such as USB(for front panel)?
This YouTube video shows what you get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGSb0KKDNg
IcyAero 6th April 2011, 17:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by yogev_ezra
This YouTube video shows what you get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGSb0KKDNg

So it seems to have everything to make a tiny cookie of awesomeness! Already sent an email, so if I happen to catch the prize this'll be truly awesome! First serious case mod ever after years of planning under a student budget :o - and at the same time when I'm moving out of town leaving my parents without a PC. :(

Cheapskate 6th April 2011, 18:01 Quote
Awww. No antiquated 24-pin printer port. I cant hook it up to my mill.:(
I'm out. I was hoping to clear up ~4 square feet of floor space.

-Heck of a user manual, though. That's the first time I've seen LCD installation in one.
yogev_ezra 6th April 2011, 18:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheapskate
Awww. No antiquated 24-pin printer port. I cant hook it up to my mill.:( I'm out. I was hoping to clear up ~4 square feet of floor space.
Can't you use something like this? http://www.pridopia.co.uk/952me-pr1.html
Mini PCI Express PCIe RS232 16C950 +Parallel Card
asura 6th April 2011, 18:18 Quote
Or a USB to parallel...
yogev_ezra 6th April 2011, 18:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by asura
Or a USB to parallel...
USB does not provide flow control and does not guarantee a certain bandwidth.
This is why USB-to-Serial and USB-to-Parallel converters are not 100% compatible with pure Serial and pure Parallel. Some people are satisfied with the compatibility level they offer, but others have issues. So it depends what is on the other side of the Parallel port today, and can it live with 90% compatibility?
asura 6th April 2011, 20:00 Quote
I never knew that. Don't need it for the moment either, but if I ever venture off into any side avenues where it pops up, it'll be stashed in some corner of my brain. Very useful tit-bit.
Andy Mc 6th April 2011, 20:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by yogev_ezra

The winner is entitled (only after he/she starts the project log on Bit-Tech forum) to receive additional stuff of his/her choice worth up to $100 USA. So it can be for example Broadcom HD card + second VGA card, or RAM, or small SSD, or anything else that he/she needs. I hope this info will help you decide to submit your idea.

With this in mind, would you be able to get an add-in ethernet card at all? If so then I know what my entry will be :)
Sloth 6th April 2011, 20:21 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by PureSilver
I submitted my idea - I'd have this thing in a rugged, passively-cooled milled aluminium case (sealed to IP67, naturally) with waterproof fittings. I'd strip a GPS dongle and a 3G dongle, and connect them to the internal USB fittings, then throw in a battery and make custom wiring for a 1.8" SSD etc.

Then, I'd hook it up to a Vuzix-style corner-of-eye display in my skiing goggles and a wrist-mounted keyboard, and use it to tell me my speed, altitude, location, weather, ski map etc. I could even hook up my helmet cam, and then upload videos wirelessly. Then while I'm cycling back in London, I can have it play me turn-by-turn satnav directions in my sunglasses...
I would pay you to make a second one of those.
yogev_ezra 6th April 2011, 21:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Mc
With this in mind, would you be able to get an add-in ethernet card at all? If so then I know what my entry will be :)
You can ask for any of those after you win (all prices are in USD):
1) Commell MPX-7202 (PCI Express mini card with 2 x USB3.0) - $64
2) Commell MPX-574D2 (PCI Express mini card with 2 x GigaBit LAN) - $67
3) Commell MPX-643 (PCI Express mini card with FireWire IEEE1394a & IEEE1394b) - $55
4) Commell MPX-954E (PCI Express mini card with RS232 *2 & RS422/485) - $61
5) Commell MPX-3132 (PCI Express mini card with 2 x SATAII (RAID 0, RAID 1)) - $40
6) Broadcom BCM70015 (PCI Express half-mini card for HD video accelerating) - $50
7) IEI LVDS-VGA-R10 (18bit LVDS to VGA converter - for 2nd VGA port) - $50
8) Patriot SODIMM DDR2 RAM 2GB @ 667MHz - $30
9) KingSpec 2.5" SSD 32GB - $70
10) KingSpec CompactFlash 32GB - $70
Your budget is $100 so you can combine anything from the above up to $100.

Number 2 (add-in ethernet) is this card: http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/Peripheral/PCI%20Express%20mini%20card/MPX-574D2.HTM
PureSilver 7th April 2011, 00:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloth
I would pay you to make a second one of those.

It's a deal. :D

Also figured that it could be combined to do about a million other things, like GPS mapping while walking (so you don't have to pull out a phone and wave it around) and tracking your off-road routes/bike trails etc. If you were on a velodrome the data link could send telemetry from you ride back to a laptop in real time, too. I think a bluetooth dongle would have to go in too, so you could use it with a little foldaway wireless k+m as well as a wearable 'board and ball, and appear to be typing on a keyboard that wasn't connected to anything, without a screen to look at. Combining a camera/screen on the glasses/goggles means you could actually do 'in-eye' augmented reality, too.

Now, if there's a use I can find for it while it's underwater...

[EDIT](Other than underwater music player, that is.) :)[/EDIT]
skybarge 8th April 2011, 06:19 Quote
Put my email in :)

If I get it or not, you'll see my mod come in the next few weeks to the forums!
M7ck 8th April 2011, 22:34 Quote
My email is away, mine is a very simple idea but probably the best my skills could manage.
weeman1985 9th April 2011, 01:38 Quote
seeing as everyone is flying their flags might as well say I'm in too! Just that my idea isn't really that small...
IcyAero 13th April 2011, 16:29 Quote
Shall we see the winner being announced the next week? :o
Good luck reading those thousands of emails btw :D
Smi 14th April 2011, 10:38 Quote
I'm excited about this, but I'm not sure if my entry is good enough to warrant winning - it's not terribly inventive!
I'm also excited because I've been waiting for a decently powered, flexible pico-itx motherboard for ages - this one looks super.
yogev_ezra 14th April 2011, 15:36 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyAero
Shall we see the winner being announced the next week? :o
Good luck reading those thousands of emails btw :D
Don't think there were thousands, but I am also anxious to see the results
PureSilver 14th April 2011, 16:28 Quote
Results announced!

It looks like my ripoff of the Land Warrior CSS will never be

But a worthier winner I can't imagine - get it started!
yogev_ezra 10th January 2013, 23:10 Quote
Fast forward to 2 years later :D
You might not win a prize last time, but here's your chance to make cheap Pico-ITX board a reality this time, and maybe win a prize in between: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=255178
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