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Asus ships Transformer hybrid tablet

Asus ships Transformer hybrid tablet

the Transformer sports an IPS panel covered with scratch-resistant glass, as well as two cameras.

Asus is already attempting to combat the new iPad 2 with the announcement that it’s shipping its hybrid-tablet netbook, the Eee Pad Transformer. Despite the name, however, there’s sadly no Decepticon or Autobot badge to be found on it.

The Transformer's unique design separates the tablet portion of the device from the main body, which houses a keyboard and touchpad. According to Asus, the Transformer is ‘the best tablet choice for users looking for both media consumption and mobile productivity’ but then it would, wouldn’t it?

As if a neat keyboard docking unit wasn’t enough, both the tablet and the keyboard portion of the Transformer have batteries, with Asus claiming that it has a ‘combined battery life of up to 16 hours.*’ The star leads to some small print stating that ‘9.5 and 16 hour battery life estimated under certain conditions.

The device uses a combination of Asus' Waveshare user interface and Android 3.0 operating systems, and Asus hopes the Transformer will be a 'trendsetting tablet experience' due to its use of Android 3.0 with Flash support. The latter is an infamous omission on Apple’s iDevices, including the iPad 2.

The tablet/screen of the Transformer sports an IPS panel covered with scratch-resistant glass, as well as a pair of cameras, just like the iPad 2. The rear-mounted camera is a 5-megapixel unit, while the front-facing on captures only 1.2 megapixels. The keyboard unit also has two USB ports and an SD card reader, making it more flexible than the iPad’s proprietary connection.

Under the hood, the Transformer is powered by an Nvidia Tegra 2 dual-core processor and GPU, so it should be capable of running high-quality 3D games. We’ve already had a look at some Asus Eee pads and liked the minimalist design. However, the battery life in real-world use remains a mystery until we can properly test the device in our labs.

To flame the iPad discuss whether the Transformer floats your tablet boat or not, visit the forum.

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Bindibadgi 29th March 2011, 12:31 Quote
*Gets in early* Any questions about it - give me a shout. :)
kenco_uk 29th March 2011, 12:34 Quote
It's good to see NVidia's Tegra chipset finally in things you can buy.

Looks good - the battery life sounds promising. Android 3 is a big plus.

I wonder what the price is?

Ooh, also - what size is the screen? It's not mentioned at all!
r3loaded 29th March 2011, 12:36 Quote
Yep, big question - why can tablets like this have an IPS screen, but netbooks like Asus's own Eee PC range can't?
Jonalethdm 29th March 2011, 12:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
It's good to see NVidia's Tegra chipset finally in things you can buy.

Ooh, also - what size is the screen? It's not mentioned at all!

+1 and from that what size is the keyboard?
Bindibadgi 29th March 2011, 12:40 Quote
Kenco: 10.1 inch. Same size as an Eee PC netbook. Price will be announced in 2 days for UK and US.

r3loaded - Don't know actually, must be a supplier thing because the Transformer a 1280 x 800 resolution display iirc. If anyone knows how to show off IPS on video, please say, I have to shoot an Android 3.0 demo + Tech overview tonight/tomorrow. (excuse to take one home and play angry birds on the train :D:D)
r3loaded 29th March 2011, 12:49 Quote
Taking photos of the screen at ridiculous angles is one thing I can think of!
TWeaK 29th March 2011, 13:01 Quote
Bindi: Please, PLEASE, don't link us to the crappy Big Bang Theory ripoff advert..
Xir 29th March 2011, 13:03 Quote
question of price I guess, with it's main competitor it's own EEE line wich is available for <300€ :D
Highland3r 29th March 2011, 13:05 Quote
Bindi - coupe of s if I may!

How is the tablet to hold- weight distribution wise etc
Whats the build quality like on it
Any idea on uk stockists
Whats the asus overlay on honeycomb like?
Is the transformer going to gain additional storage via the micro sd port (once google fix honeycomb)

Tar!
seeds 29th March 2011, 13:31 Quote
Is there an actuarial spec somewhere with a listing of ports on both the tablet and the keyboard as well as storage space. I’ve seen mention of SD card readers, USB etc but this was in old “First Look” articles.
Denis_iii 29th March 2011, 13:33 Quote
I'm waiting till WIndows 8 which I hope will unify the desktop/laptop/smart phone and tablet interfaces into one local and cloud supported system.
Will be picking up Win7 phone sometime this year to replace archaic sony walkman mobile.
mamoulian 29th March 2011, 13:33 Quote
Cool, been waiting for this!

Seems a bit odd that everywhere is saying it's 'released March 30th', yet it's hardly up for preorder anywhere (Google shopping search is blank) and as Bindibagi confirms there's no price yet!

Please don't be too expensive with keyboard. Looking to replace my aged but still very much used eee netbook with this, if it's in midrange notebook price territory then there's too much competition.

+1 to Highland3r's questions!

Oh and do you know if the bootloader's locked? If I don't like something the manufacturer has put on MY device I reserve the right to wipe it, same as if I bought a laptop.
Blackmoon181 29th March 2011, 14:15 Quote
this would be a perfect combination for students such as myself who have a desktop in the flat. I can use the transformer for notetaking in lectures and the tablet for passing round hilarious stuff i've found on youtube.

Fingers crossed...
Snubbs 29th March 2011, 14:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by TWeaK
Bindi: Please, PLEASE, don't link us to the crappy Big Bang Theory ripoff advert..

:-( I just watched it... its cringe-worthy
mamoulian 29th March 2011, 14:23 Quote
@Bindibadgi can you see how many browser tabs you can open until it dies please?
r3loaded 29th March 2011, 14:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snubbs
:-( I just watched it... its cringe-worthy
Saw it yesterday - they murdered Sheldon with that! :(
kenco_uk 29th March 2011, 14:54 Quote
10.1" sips won't be cheap. Looking at what's available, I can see this pitched at £399.
I would be very pleasantly surprised if it were under £300. It would be a bloody bargain under £200.
TheUn4seen 29th March 2011, 14:58 Quote
Android in a multimedia device just doesn't cut it (the same goes to any "mobile" OS), for one simple reason - compatibility, especially with video files. So, until there's a version of ffdshow for Android and a tablet with enough CPU power to handle high bitrate 720p/1080p .mkv/.m2ts/.mp4/.avi files (which make for about 90% of my video collection) I don't really see any use for tablets, aside for the obvious - another pathetic fashion designed by Apple marketing and mindlessly copied by others to ride on the wave.
l3v1ck 29th March 2011, 15:17 Quote
I like the idea, but not the underpowered hardware.
This would be great if it was bobcat etc.
Highland3r 29th March 2011, 15:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by l3v1ck
I like the idea, but not the underpowered hardware.
This would be great if it was bobcat etc.

Underpowered Hardware???!
Tangster 29th March 2011, 17:25 Quote
Under £350 and I'm sold (pending a try in Comet/PC world/etc before purchase off the internets).
DST 29th March 2011, 17:56 Quote
Does the "screen" part have ANY ports except for 3.5 jack and proprietory connection port? If these are the only ports - then to me it is a no-sale
jimmyc 29th March 2011, 19:00 Quote
Bindi: any idea when it will be released in Canada? Will pricing be similar to US pricing? Thanks!
jimmyc 29th March 2011, 21:54 Quote
When will it be available in Canada? Will Canadian pricing be similar to US?
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 01:52 Quote
Does anyone have an idea on the release date on europe other than the UK? I live in Portugal and I'm probably going to buy this instead of the iPad2.
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 05:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir
question of price I guess, with it's main competitor it's own EEE line wich is available for <300€ :D

It is an it isn't. It's still an Eee product aimed "at everyone" (ref: Eee is Me campaign I'm supposed to push :P) but it's a different type of portability and user. Eee PCs are aimed at basic computing with Windows compatibility, whereas the Transformer is both Eee PC and tablet (for people who need a keyboard) with a different software set. For people who just want email, video/media, internet and Android games it's perfect. It has Polaris Office stuff but obviously Eee PCs or a proper notebook is better if you're tied into Microsoft. You can always use Google Docs I suppose..

The touchscreen, higher resolution display, metal facias around the keyboard and "high res" IPS panel and gorilla glass all costs more than the all plastic Eee PCs. :)
Quote:
How is the tablet to hold- weight distribution wise etc
Whats the build quality like on it
Any idea on uk stockists
Whats the asus overlay on honeycomb like?
Is the transformer going to gain additional storage via the micro sd port (once google fix honeycomb)

Weight dist of the tablet itself, unless you're particularly sensitive it's even. I mean without you asking I've just had to check. The right side is maybe ever so slightly heavier, but then again I am left handed...

Build quality is metal-glass with a hard plastic back. It doesn't bend or flex. The connector between the two parts is a little sensitive but as long as you don't treat it like a child's toy it should be fine. The design has gone through testing since last December afaik. The hinge is significantly stiffer than your normal laptop because much of the weight is in the "display", but it needs to be to support the docking function. The downside I suppose is that both together it's not particularly thin, but at least the edges are metal and both sides are textured so it's still quite nice to look at and hold.

UK stockists - not sure exactly that's for the UK team to answer, but I would expect all the usual places that stock Eee stuff. We're launching in the UK and US first due to production ramp-up and logistics (again afaik, I'm marketing not PM), with other countries as fast as we can! I would expect Europe in general to be high on the agenda because it's a very important market to ASUS - we've actually just had the European teams in HQ learning about the tablet this week, so they are expecting shortly.

I'll shoot a video today on the overlay, honeycomb and features. ASUS has gone down the HTC route and added it's own widgets, which can be removed if you like, but they are aimed to "soften" the very digital style of Honeycomb to appeal to the Eee market better.

There is a SDHC on and two USB ports on the keyboard dock because the dock has more internal space as it's mostly just a second battery + keyboard. The tablet itself has a mini-HDMI port, micro-SD slot, 3.5mm audio jack and the Apple-like docking/charge connector. The idea is that you use a mouse and USB flash drive when it's on a desk, but having a flash drive poke out the side of a tablet is not user friendly, hence microSD.

TheUn4seen - It would be impossible to get any x86 hardware in a tablet this size without the battery life being less than an hour I would say. Bobcat is a great, low power APU from AMD for what it offers, but it's at best 9W for just the CPU - systems can triple that. The best Intel mobile CPU is about 1.3-2W (Z600) and uses a sub-1GHz single core. Tegra 2 afaik is, at most, 1W. It'll decode 1080p at 100mW too. ARM hardware costs less as well - if you want a 399 tablet there's no way it's going to be x86 because the BOM cost for supporting hardware like power, PCB complexity and components. Check the Intel price list too; the cheapest mobile Atom is $60+ (that's not even specialist mobile ones). Tegra 2 is supposed to be a third of that (that's not me officially stating it, just what I've read elsewhere).
sinner666999 30th March 2011, 05:21 Quote
Here is my big question: Will the price tag include the keyboard docking station or is that a seperate purchase on top of the tablet?

I ask because I have looked at getting a keyboard for my mom's iPad and those things run $99+, for the nice ones at least. If the price tag includes the keyboard it might sell better than iPads for those who NEED a keyboard.

Also, can the keyboard and tablet lock/snap together into one piece for carrying purposes or is it two seperate bits you have to lug about?
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 05:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

Thanks for that post man! Really helpful!
Is there any word on the european launch date? (namely Portugal, but that's just my case).
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 05:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner666999
Also, can the keyboard and tablet lock/snap together into one piece for carrying purposes or is it two seperate bits you have to lug about?

It snaps and locks together as one piece and you can hold it by either display or keyboard. A little button on the inner rim pops them apart. It's not so smooth, but it's definitely secure!

The best part is that when running you can dock/undock on a whim and the OS acts like nothing's happened :)

Shark00n - I can't say EU launch dates until the Eee Pad team announces. I know that's frustrating but they would rather tell you a real date rather than one that might change before shipping/distribution/local teams have confirmed it's all ready.

EDIT: Let me add this:

http://aws.cacafly.com/transformer/img/specsheet.png
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 09:35 Quote
Thanks Bindi!

Guys, what have you got to say about this particular video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQGNPH3g0uk

It's from early March, or so I'm told.

The interface looks sketchy and not fluid at all, the touch feature looks buggy and unresponsive... Is it because it was still a "prototype" or something of the sort? Or does the real product really work like that?
If so, that's a big no-no for me... :( But I'm still going to wait for at least some reviews before I make a rush and buy an ipad...
DST 30th March 2011, 09:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
The tablet itself has a mini-HDMI port, micro-SD slot, 3.5mm audio jack and the Apple-like docking/charge connector. The idea is that you use a mouse and USB flash drive when it's on a desk, but having a flash drive poke out the side of a tablet is not user friendly, hence microSD.
I personally would very much prefer having a USB port on the tablet itself, so I can read/write USB flash drives or attach other devices.
Highland3r 30th March 2011, 10:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
snipped

thanks for info bindi!
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 10:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DST
I personally would very much prefer having a USB port on the tablet itself, so I can read/write USB flash drives or attach other devices.

Fair enough, but there's other software built in that'll sniff local networks and ASUS includes its own Webstorage that can store docs. Not to mention the free Dropbox app for Android too ;)

Shark00n - Google actually only released the final-final version of Android 3 very recently (we've been waiting on it), not to mention Flash 10.2 as well (afaik). Credit for Motorola for being first, but the Xoom for example technically launched with beta software. HTC is also launching its 7" Flyer with Android 2.x too. I won't lie though; even the shipping version is still *slightly* buggy if you try to do too much at once, but it's still completely usable and Google's first tablet OS so there's bound to be updates along the way :D ;)
DST 30th March 2011, 10:33 Quote
BTW, is having HDMI cable sticking out from the tablet more user-friendly than a USB drive? :) I think when someone needs to connect external display chances of him walking around with HDMI cable are rather slim. IMHO in that case the tablet is going to be laying stationary on a table, so why not on a docking station? Having HDMI on docking station rather than on the tablet makes more sense :)

ASUS, if you are reading this - please,please, please replace the HDMI with USB on the tablet - and I'm sold :)
kenco_uk 30th March 2011, 11:43 Quote
I'm very intrigued by this product. How well would it replace a Win7 netbook I wonder? Does it have something akin to MS Publisher? Does it have good e-book software? How long does it take to boot/shutdown/restart? I assume there will be software updates?
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 12:55 Quote
It has Polaris Office, and it can remote desktop to any Windows or Mac machine so you can type while you type.. an email.

Boot from cold is about 30 secs. From standby is instant like your phone. eBook software built in is ASUS' MyLibrary that reads ePub and PDF (afaik), but that doesn't mean you can't install others from the Android market.

Software updates.. I bloody hope so! :D It's certainly not as heavily customized as HTC's 'wares so should be more efficient. Unknown area though from even my perspective, but they have managed to turn around the MyNet, MyLibrary and MyCloud stuff pretty quickly. I'll ask the PMs.
Xir 30th March 2011, 13:05 Quote
Hmmm, I just meant, as there's plenty of people around using an EEE netbook for what the iPad gets used for (but for less money), these people might be interested, thus it would compete with other netbooks.

With the toughened glass, 1280x800 resolution and GPS onboard though, it plays in a different leage, and should cost accordingly.
Considering it's just 16/32GB storage, I suppose it's got an SSD...up goes the price again.
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 13:51 Quote
Thanks Bindi! Helpful as always!

I get what you mean, in this video (nevermind it's in swedish or something like that) it's much more polished and fluid than the previous vid. I can live with that the way it is, and if it's got room only to improve, even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ms-oD11NCI

Hows does it hold up battery-wise? I've read it manages 10 hours and I read it managed 8 hours, which is it really? Have you got any experience with this? (I'm not looking for a unrealistic battery time plan, I want to know the battery time during real world use, internet, email, games, music, movies, a little of everything, thanks!)
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 13:58 Quote
Wait for reviews tbh if you want a trusting, real-world answer ;) Quoted as 9.5hrs with the tablet on its own and 16hrs when docked.
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 14:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Wait for reviews tbh if you want a trusting, real-world answer ;) Quoted as 9.5hrs with the tablet on its own and 16hrs when docked.

Thanks man! You just don't get this kind of consumer advice with Apple ;)

BTW, is there any info on prices and availability in the UK market yet? I might as well order one from a well reputed shop out there (any ideas on which? 'cause I have no idea...)

And, about the charger, is it a USB unit? I mean, can I safely buy a Transformer from the UK and plug it in here in Portugal with a different kind of USB charger?
Love 30th March 2011, 14:27 Quote
Cool, been waiting for this!
Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 14:32 Quote
Tomorrow is the UK/US announcement on prices.

There's a USB cable to charge it, and that plugs into a plug with a USB socket in the backside. I suppose that can be easily adapted for local sockets.
snowblind901 30th March 2011, 14:45 Quote
Hi Bind,

What's going on with the launch on facebook?
http://www.facebook.com/ASUSEee?sk=app_197846136904015&app_data=event

It gives a price and buy now but none of the locations have them in? Shame this launch has had a hiccup was going so smooth.

It says launched and has a price of facebook but none of the sites to order on have any in stock?
mamoulian 30th March 2011, 15:01 Quote
Looks good in that Swedish video, thanks Shark00n.
Shame he didn't have a keyboard.

Love the liquid live wallpaper! I hear the liquid level represents battery level :-)

@Bindibadgi: 'There's a USB cable to charge it' - so is that USB on one end (for the wall plug adapter) and the 'Apple-like docking/charge connector' on the other? Or is it USB-USB for charging when docked into the keyboard?
If the former, how do you charge it when it's docked?

Could you see how the browser performs when you open many tabs, say 10+ please?
Highland3r 30th March 2011, 16:24 Quote
FYI - http://www.slashgear.com/asus-eee-pad-transformer-and-eee-slate-ep121-officially-priced-dated-30143364/

Prices look decent tbh, 32gb unit is especially tempting. After watching the YouTube video above, honeycomb looks quite good on the asus. Shame the number of tablet apps is limited on android at the mo though - apple deff has the legs there!
Shark00n 30th March 2011, 16:34 Quote
NO 3G FOR TWO MORE MONTHS?????


Bindibadgi 30th March 2011, 17:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowblind901

It says launched and has a price of facebook but none of the sites to order on have any in stock?

I was recently told (ie: not today) stock is 7-14 days away. Now is pre-order time. I'll check again if that's still the case. Reviews should be any time from 31st.

@mamoulian - USB to Apple like for both keyboard and tablet. Then there's a power plug adapter for USB to plug into.

I'll check the browser tomorrow if I have time.

And yea the liquid level is battery level. It's real funky, but honestly a bit of a novelty and because it uses CPU+GPU+gyro all the time it tends to burn battery a bit. Good to show off with :D
flibblesan 30th March 2011, 17:57 Quote
£379 is a fantastic price. I'd rather buy this over the Xoom that people keep raving about.

I'd like to know if the transformer is going to be locked down hard to prevent users customizing the Android build on the device or it'll be possibly to unlock the bootloader and gain root?
snowblind901 30th March 2011, 18:02 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I was recently told (ie: not today) stock is 7-14 days away. Now is pre-order time. I'll check again if that's still the case. Reviews should be any time from 31st.

@mamoulian - USB to Apple like for both keyboard and tablet. Then there's a power plug adapter for USB to plug into.

I'll check the browser tomorrow if I have time.

And yea the liquid level is battery level. It's real funky, but honestly a bit of a novelty and because it uses CPU+GPU+gyro all the time it tends to burn battery a bit. Good to show off with :D

Thanks Bindi, I'm pretty convinced on this I'll just have to try it first next week before I put down the cash, great to get all this information and cannot wait for reviews.

MisterPatate 31st March 2011, 10:09 Quote
@Bindibadgi
Thanks a lot for all these answers. One think has not been talked about is the keyboard.

Do you know if the optional keyboard will be available later for the 32Gb version? Will it be available for all localization (French Belgium is mine) and will it be compatible with a device bought in the US?

It would be great if you could get those answers!

Thanks in advance.

MrP
Shark00n 31st March 2011, 11:07 Quote
Does the Wifi-only version have GPS?
Xir 31st March 2011, 12:45 Quote
Hmmm, selling the Keyboard part seperately does take some of the fun out of it...
flibblesan 31st March 2011, 17:09 Quote
What? You have to buy the keyboard half seperately for the transformer?
flibblesan 31st March 2011, 17:25 Quote
Prices up on ebuyer. £429.94 with the keyboard dock, £379 without.
Highland3r 31st March 2011, 18:55 Quote
Bindi, can you confirm the micro sd slot on the tablet itself will be enabled via a software update to allow additional storage (as per xoom). Makes the 16gb unit palatable over the 32gb storage wise if that is going to happen!
mamoulian 31st March 2011, 19:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Prices up on ebuyer. £429.94 with the keyboard dock, £379 without.

So it is, although it doesn't show up under a search for 'asus transformer', which is a bit rubbish.

Showing stock date of 18th for delivery on 19th, same as Amazon.

It also shows an RRP of £449.00, pretty sure Asus said the RRP was £429!
EvoDOOM 31st March 2011, 19:31 Quote
The water battery level thing is quite cool
sinner666999 1st April 2011, 03:00 Quote
At those prices I see no reason to buy one over a dell duo, $549, unless you just have to have android and an SSD.
flibblesan 1st April 2011, 05:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner666999
At those prices I see no reason to buy one over a dell duo, $549, unless you just have to have android and an SSD.

Completely different. The dell duo is a laptop that has a touch screen. The eee transformer is an Android tablet that happens to have a keyboard dock.
Bindibadgi 1st April 2011, 07:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPatate
@Bindibadgi
Thanks a lot for all these answers. One think has not been talked about is the keyboard.

Do you know if the optional keyboard will be available later for the 32Gb version? Will it be available for all localization (French Belgium is mine) and will it be compatible with a device bought in the US?

It would be great if you could get those answers!

Thanks in advance.

MrP

The keyboard is not "intelligent" so to speak - it's merely a dock with extra battery, a few more ports and trackpad and chiclet keyboard. This should mean it's interchangable, although not something we can test here as I only have the English version to hand. Android 3.0 does have language options that can be changed at any time though. I can't find the list to reprint here, but trying looking here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#UserFeatures. There is French Canadian, French French and French Swiss (Suisse?) listed. Text to speech is more limited and depends on Google again.

For those buying abroad, like with any tech, I would check if the warranty is international. I'm really not sure on this, so check with local teams.

Highland3r - I'll check this w/e. I have a microSD card somewhere at home (I just moved house so finding it will be a challenge) not in the office. The idea of the Eee is that it supports 3 levels of storage: local (internal SSD + USB flash + USB HDD + SD), local network (searches shared drives + DNLA) and cloud (ASUS Webstorage/streaming services etc). Plus there's also services like Dropbox for Android too, all so long as you're near a WiFi hotspot. I wouldn't have thought it even requires an update! I've been plugging in USB flash drives, 16GB SDHC card and USB HDD already.
Nexxo 1st April 2011, 09:49 Quote
Well, finally we are seeing something that can outcompete the iPad on price and features. Well done! I might just be tempted...
wuyanxu 1st April 2011, 11:06 Quote
Android 3.0.... how does that work with USB?

looks great. make it as cheap as iPad 2 in LA in 2 month's time and i'll be buying one :D
Shark00n 1st April 2011, 11:08 Quote
Hey Bindi, do you know if the regular wifi-only version has a GPS module?
mamoulian 1st April 2011, 12:10 Quote
I see rumours of it being priced at $400 in the US (16GB no keyboard).
If that's true then is rip-off Britain at it again?
sinner666999 1st April 2011, 15:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner666999
At those prices I see no reason to buy one over a dell duo, $549, unless you just have to have android and an SSD.

Completely different. The dell duo is a laptop that has a touch screen. The eee transformer is an Android tablet that happens to have a keyboard dock.

No, they really are not all that different. But your welcome to lie to yourself for the sake of buying a eee transformer. I'm not going to stop you.
Nexxo 1st April 2011, 18:02 Quote
The Dell Duo is a clever little beast, but it runs Windows, which makes it clunky, slow and hungry: 3hours 46 minutes under light browsing. Rather have a buttery smooth Android 3 driven system with 8 to 16 hours runtime, please.

Note that the Asus eee Pad (seriously, and then people laugh at the name "iPad"?!?) Transformer is a similar concept to the eee Pad EP121 with Windows 7. Except that the latter is twice as heavy, twice as expensive, has half the battery life and has a slower UI.
Bindibadgi 1st April 2011, 18:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shark00n
Hey Bindi, do you know if the regular wifi-only version has a GPS module?

GPS, compass, tilt, gyro - all there. We've been having fun with Google Sky Maps :D

In fact, our version we've been shooting videos with is not 3G, so we've been teathering it to an iPhone via WiFi hotspot. Works great.

wuyanxu - Uh, plug it in, job done. :p Works with flash drives and USB hard drives. Keyboard only has the USB ports though, remember, so you need both. Tablet only has micro-SD slot for additional local storage.

Nexoo - the Slate EP121 has a full Intel CPU - it's not Atom, so it's as fast as any ULV laptop. It's not really comparable to the gadgety/consumer laptops - it's simple a laptop with no keyboard and a wacom touchpad whacked on top (albeit a little more elegantly in design). Win 7 isn't the best for touchpad but there's actually been much larger demand for them from professionals and the team underestimated it (they say), which is why the roll out to the UK is only happening just now. It was an experimental product tbh and they honestly didn't think they'd sell that many because of the price, but I wouldn't be surprised if they revised it and released a gen-2 in time. I think the effort of birthing 3 Eee Pads this year is taking it's toll though haha!
flibblesan 1st April 2011, 18:35 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner666999
No, they really are not all that different. But your welcome to lie to yourself for the sake of buying a eee transformer. I'm not going to stop you.
You probably also think a Macbook and an iPad aren't different..
Nexxo 1st April 2011, 19:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Nexoo - the Slate EP121 has a full Intel CPU - it's not Atom, so it's as fast as any ULV laptop. It's not really comparable to the gadgety/consumer laptops - it's simple a laptop with no keyboard and a wacom touchpad whacked on top (albeit a little more elegantly in design). Win 7 isn't the best for touchpad but there's actually been much larger demand for them from professionals and the team underestimated it (they say), which is why the roll out to the UK is only happening just now. It was an experimental product tbh and they honestly didn't think they'd sell that many because of the price, but I wouldn't be surprised if they revised it and released a gen-2 in time. I think the effort of birthing 3 Eee Pads this year is taking it's toll though haha!
OK, so it's almost exactly like my Motion Computing (Centrino with Windows XP) Tablet: slow, clunky, hungry. :D

Unless it is a lot zippier I would not consider it much of an improvement. And 1kg weight and 2.5 hours battery life?
Shark00n 1st April 2011, 21:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
GPS, compass, tilt, gyro - all there. We've been having fun with Google Sky Maps :D

In fact, our version we've been shooting videos with is not 3G, so we've been teathering it to an iPhone via WiFi hotspot. Works great.


Cool! Thanks!
But, for instance if I want to use it occasionally as a GPS navigator for my car, does a Wifi only version work? (Do I need to download like a Tom Tom or Garmin app from the market?) Or does it need an internet feed in order to work?
movie-man 2nd April 2011, 10:00 Quote
Hi Bindibadgi

I have a few question I hope you can help me with.


  • Can you tell me where the speakers are located ? , Had an idea that they were in the extended silver area past the screen, But I have also seen what looks like speaker grill/holes on one of the sides.


    Also will the remote desktop program just connect to Windows RDP or will there be an applet that need to be installed on the other PC?


    and finally will the DLNA connect to any DLNA or will it need a applet on the other end, and what file formats are supported?

    sorry one last thing are there any forums out there where we can get info



Got a Xoom on preorder but the Transformer looks so much better, and will be getting that instead when its out in the UK, which I read was on April 6th, so here is hopping ;)




Thanks


Steve
uksteven 2nd April 2011, 16:54 Quote
The transformer looks fantastic, and as I was reading all the specifications I was ticking off everything I needed, and it was all there.

BUT - I stopped placing the order, when I seen the actual unit does NOT have USB. I feel this is a major cock up by Asus.

One of the reasons I didn't buy the iPad was because of no USB port, and this same for this. It is unfortunate, as I really want the transformer, but I just cannot see past the lack of a USB port.

Why, why, why would Asus not place a USB port on the actual tablet?? It is blatantly crazy.

I know there is one on the keybord, which I have no interest in, I wanted a tablet, not a notepad. A tablet I could carry around that HAS a bl**dy usb connector.

Why is it so difficult for these company to appreciate what their consumers need? I mean, it is not exactly rocket science is it?

So Asus, no USB, no sale from me, and this is also the concern on another forums I frequent. At least 3 people today have said the exact same thing about the lack of a USB being the deciding factor for them not purchasing the transformer.

Seems crazy to me how short-sighted these companies are.
Magnesus 3rd April 2011, 20:29 Quote
Is ASUS Transformer equipped (or will it be equipped in the future) in codecs for playing avi, mkv, flac and ogg files? I read that Galaxy Tab has all the codecs but Xoom has only a few (h264 etc.). It's the only thing that stops me from buying Transformer right now - no information about support for various media files. Does it have it?
prodigal27 4th April 2011, 01:47 Quote
Will ASUS commit to peripherals for the Transformer? I notice that with most manufacturers they really fail when it comes to accessories. Judging from the dock connector, it would be pretty easy to make a small 3" long usb adapter, instead of having to carry around the keyboard portion. It takes forever for 3rd party parts to come out, and with all the competitors for Honeycomb it would be great if companies like ASUS put some effort into the little things.
Bindibadgi 4th April 2011, 11:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shark00n
Cool! Thanks!
But, for instance if I want to use it occasionally as a GPS navigator for my car, does a Wifi only version work? (Do I need to download like a Tom Tom or Garmin app from the market?) Or does it need an internet feed in order to work?

It needs an internet feed to call the data for Google Maps. I don't know if the Tom Tom or Garmin apps would require it - given that if you buy "a Tom Tom" is doesn't, I would assume not.

Nexxo - i5 is a bit faster than old Centrino! :P But, yea, afraid we're limited by technology on that one ;) Need Intel to magic a 3GHz dual core + graphics into a 10W TDP :D It's better than an Atom one though, eh? ;)

movie-man - Inside the tablet. Sound comes out the side grills.

Remote Desktop - requires the ASUS app on your PC for Android 3 to talk to it.

Any DLNA on the same network - it's a common standard. Currently file formats supported are what's native to Android (baseline h.264/mp3 etc). This is just because adding more requires licenses = cost$$$ and very few extra codecs for Android are actually available. I'm trying to find one myself - even VLC for Android has been in development 2 years going by the thread on its forums. However, there's enough "re-encode for iPad" apps out there - Android codecs are identical afaik. It's also probably better that way given the "limited" performance available for playing everything and anything - Nvidia's Tegra 2 accelerates h.264 at 100mV, but I would have thought that's also been designed for native Android too.

UK in shops date will be whenever the stores receive them (shipping, customs, logistics etc), with increasing availability through April. AFAIK there has been considerable interest though (yay) so put your name down soon if you want one.

uksteven - Sorry you feel that way. There's a microSD port, WebStorage (ASUS/Dropbox/Amazon) and 16/32GB of local storage to play with though. Or, the Slider should come with them altogether in the coming months.
Highland3r 4th April 2011, 11:36 Quote
To add to Bindi's post above - Google Navigation (afaik) will cache the route (inc maps) when you initially input your destination. So if you were to set your route at home (with WIFI) as long as you don't stray too far off the defined course it should never need an internet connection until you reach your destination.
Never tried it personally though, but will give it a shot on the way home today and see if it does work :) - unless anyone can confirm sooner!
Bindibadgi 4th April 2011, 12:04 Quote
Smartphone + WiFi hotspot! Works a treat! :D Both Android (HTC Legend w/ 2.2 tested) and iOS (iPhone 4)
Magnesus 4th April 2011, 14:39 Quote
Will the application for Remote Desktop and MyNet available for Ubuntu? WebStorage already is from what I saw but I'm more interested in MyNet and Remote Desktop...
martino2k6 4th April 2011, 14:59 Quote
Dear Bindi, I've got a few questions for you regarding the TF101 and I'd be very thankful if you could answer them.

1) Is the bootloader locked? And what is Asus' policy for the warranty when loading custom firmware on the device? (I know the source hasn't been released yet, but I'd like to know for the future as the TF101 really interests me, both as a consumer and for development.)

2) Any chance that you could try a few media clips to find out what the format/codec support is like? In particular some of the following would be great:
* Flash: standard definition, 720p, 1080p (YouTube for example)
* Audio: MP3, OGG Vorbis, AAC (HE and LC), FLAC
* Video: AVI (xVid with MP3/AC3 audio, DivX), MP4 (SD/720p/1080p H264 with MP3/AAC/AC3 audio), MKV (all the video and audio codecs mentioned for AVI and MP4)

3) Does the tablet battery charge when connected to the keyboard even when it is turned off? Example scenario would be that you use the tablet on a plane, then you switch it off and dock it with the keyboard, and voilà tablet is recharged again later on after you got some sleep.

4) How does the HDMI work? Does it use mirroring, and how does it behave when you plug it in whilst playing video?

I know that the second request is a lot to ask for, however if you can any of them that would be really great. You can find many test clips here and for creating MKVs you can just use MKVToolnix (easy easy as drag and drop to create MKV files from any other format). If the default player doesn't work for some clip give RockPlayer a try. It has a software decoding mode, which is slower but the compatibility is much higher.

Thanks a lot.
movie-man 4th April 2011, 16:23 Quote
Quote:
UK in shops date will be whenever the stores receive them (shipping, customs, logistics etc),

Hi Bindibadgi,

That sounds ominous, Does that mean that there is no actual release date, its just when and if :(

Just thought I had read that it was 6th April in the uk for walk in shops, most of the online store seem to be stating 19th April


Steve
VyseTheLegend 4th April 2011, 22:46 Quote
Does anyone know if the bootloader can be unlocked -- or what's Asus' general policy on modifying their hardware?

Also, can the Asus Launcher/skin be turned off?
Bindibadgi 5th April 2011, 04:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by movie-man
Hi Bindibadgi,

That sounds ominous, Does that mean that there is no actual release date, its just when and if :(

Just thought I had read that it was 6th April in the uk for walk in shops, most of the online store seem to be stating 19th April


Steve

I heard that Comet is 6th, but others are taking longer to put it in store or online. It's not my dept, so I really don't know precise dates - it's not been like Apple where they get stuff in stock before they announce. We've been shipping out as soon as they come off the production line. They should still be warm from the hands of people putting them together

VyseTheLegend - There's no skin, just widgets and a background. You can turn them off yes.

Hacking it I've no idea about hacking it because it's never been discussed internally to date. I would assume (this is not official policy) that ASUS cant/wont stop you - you only lose your warranty (like any product modification). In much the same way as overclocking a PC "voids your warranty"; If they can see the damage - no dice. I would expect the mod community to find out soon enough :)

Magnesus - MyDesktop and MyNet are currently only Mac and Windows in everything I've heard. I've not seen an Ubuntu install (yet). Keep checking the website for downloads when it finally launches them: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=gHh4q7I8dvWJzhdV

martino2k6 - Flash 10.2 you just download from Android market and it works. ;) There's a YouTube app in there too. Codec support is what's native to Android. You can find your own video player from the Android Market and use that for a wider variety of codecs. I suggest Googling for 'VLC for Android' and reading the thread about it on videolan forums - apparently it's considerable work to get all the codec support in :( Re-encoding your video to match the system is still the best solution still.

HDMI - It's only mirroring at the moment. This is an Android 3.0 limitation. Tegra 2 supports 1080p output over HDMI, but right now the product is limited to 1280 x 800 output over HDMI. When the OS update is available ASUS will release its version for the TF101. There was a lot of fuss over this late in the day because the final version of Android 3 from Google we installed on shipping models only arrived about 2 weeks ago. We had to make last minute changes to our marketing materials because we were going on the Tegra 2 capability. I'm sure it's high on Google's to do list, but I suppose the VERY tight schedule + several partners = getting *something* working is better than none. This is not me speaking for Google though.

The TF101 will playback 1080p files, but they'll be downscaled to fit the resolution. The upside is that there is NO software to fuss with - when you plug in the HDMI cable it pops up the mirrored display automatically. I haven't tested when playing video, only when on the desktop or playing Angry Birds.
Shark00n 5th April 2011, 04:41 Quote
What about the 3G version release date? Any info on that yet?

Thanks Bindi! ;)
Bindibadgi 5th April 2011, 04:51 Quote
Nothing has come past my desk sorry.
movie-man 5th April 2011, 15:25 Quote
Hi Bindibadgi,

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions,

I have a few more for you if I may.
  • will the keyboard connect to the PC in the same way as the Eee pad, with the proprietary connector to USB?.
  • Do you think there will be a standard doc that will just hold and charge the Pad, would like a doc but not a keyboard
Quote:
I heard that Comet is 6th, but others are taking longer to put it in store or online

Rang Comet this morning and the guy stated that the Transformer was not due in warehouse till the 11th :(

Now cancelled my zoom order so going to commit to the Transformer


Thanks again


Steve
VyseTheLegend 5th April 2011, 16:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
VyseTheLegend - There's no skin, just widgets and a background. You can turn them off yes.
.

Thanks, Bindibadgi.

However, I'm pretty sure Asus is using a different Launcher than the stock Honeycomb one. Why? Because the Back, Home and Multitasking buttons in the lower left corner are different than the one's on the Xoom.

I believe the Asus is on 3.0.1, as is the Xoom. However, these icons are different. I can only assume Asus changed it. See below:

http://www.mobile88.com/articles/2011/3/21/motorola-xoom-front-home-screen.jpg

This is why I'm curious if you can disable the Asus Launcher and enable the stock Honeycomb one.
Nexxo 5th April 2011, 16:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Nexxo - i5 is a bit faster than old Centrino! :P But, yea, afraid we're limited by technology on that one ;) Need Intel to magic a 3GHz dual core + graphics into a 10W TDP :D It's better than an Atom one though, eh? ;)
True, true... Seeing videos of the boot time and OS in action, it does look like it is altogether snappier. Windows 7 is a bit more tablet friendly and the Ribbon interface in Office is very suited to it. Handwriting recognition is even more flawless.

With OneNote it makes for a very nice package --except battery. 2.5 hours is totally impractical, alas...

However the Transformer is spot on in terms of price-performance, and the Slider looks rather interesting too. Seeing as you are part of the Asus collective now (resistance is futile), could you let the relevant guys know that a guy who predicted the success of the iPad and the failure of the HP Slate and Microsoft Courier thinks they've nailed it perfectly? ;) I'll be buying one.
Blademrk 5th April 2011, 17:00 Quote
Might be what we're looking for with an eDC system we're thinking of implementing here. : ponders :
Magnesus 5th April 2011, 21:18 Quote
Can the dock be connected to the screen by a cable? I saw it connected that way in some CES video. So you could hold the tablet and have the keyboard nearby - connected by cable but not attached. It would be useful for using USB ports without having to hold the weight of the dock.
PS. Thanks for the answers.
csa02221862 6th April 2011, 02:46 Quote
Has anyone found a link for a manual for the Transformer? It would be great to see how some of the software and other features work.
martino2k6 6th April 2011, 02:54 Quote
Thanks for the replies Bindi.

One more question though (sorry!). You already mentioned in this thread that you do not know about the release date for the 3G version, however just to be sure... There is one being planned within the next few months, right?
csa02221862 6th April 2011, 04:05 Quote
Has anyone found a link for the manual for the Transformer. I'd like to see how some of these new apps work, they sound interesting.
Matchstick 6th April 2011, 14:34 Quote
Bindi,

thanks for the info you've provided, but do you know anything about delays in shipping the keyboard ?

It seems that of the Comet stores that have received the transformer tablet, none seem to have received the keyboard.

In fact comet online have gone so far as to mark the Tablet Keyboard bundle pack as discontined
http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Tablets/buy-ASUS-TF101-1B028A-Tablet/717711

Thanls
Highland3r 6th April 2011, 17:46 Quote
Roumer has it that the tablet + dock shipments are delayed (due later this month) and that Comet have no in-store stock (tablet only) until later this week, with PCWorld et al getting stock of tablet only next week.
Bit of a shame really if its true :(
gpearson1968 6th April 2011, 22:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by csa02221862
Has anyone found a link for the manual for the Transformer. I'd like to see how some of these new apps work, they sound interesting.

^ This.

I'd love to get my grubby little hands on an actual manual.

Bindi, anything out there you can share with the class ?

Cheers,
gpearson1968
human_error 7th April 2011, 11:52 Quote
My 16GB transformer just arrived - I've got to go to work now but I can confirm there is no skinning, and the storage is plug and play drag and drop - plugged it into my win7 pc which detected it as a media player which i can then immediately drag and drop into.

Screen is really nice too

The manual in the box is only a couple of pages, if anyone wants I can scan it and upload it tonight but there really isn't much info in there.

**edit**

oh and bindi can you see how to change the language for mynet? It seems to be stuck in spanish or something and i can't see a menu to change it (tablet is set to english UK).
seeds 7th April 2011, 12:36 Quote
human_error where did you order you Transformer from?

Also has anyone seen the 32GB with Keyboard version anywhere? I'm trying to decided if I want 16GB or 32GB.
Matchstick 7th April 2011, 13:07 Quote
human_error:

can you confirm if teh microSD card slot works ?

The Motorola Xoom still hasn't got a working SD Card slot and Amazon and Ebuyer both include words along the lines of "functionality requires future software upgrade" on their desciption pages for the Transformer.

Thanks
gpearson1968 7th April 2011, 14:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matchstick
human_error:

can you confirm if teh microSD card slot works ?

The Motorola Xoom still hasn't got a working SD Card slot and Amazon and Ebuyer both include words along the lines of "functionality requires future software upgrade" on their desciption pages.

Thanks

I saw this webpage this morning questioning whether the ASUS transformer actually works with the Micro-SD slot right now as well :

https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/360366

Granted, it's a moronola website, but I'd still like to know.

Cheers,
gpearson1968
human_error 7th April 2011, 18:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeds
human_error where did you order you Transformer from?

Also has anyone seen the 32GB with Keyboard version anywhere? I'm trying to decided if I want 16GB or 32GB.

I got mine from comet online. The keyboards are not arriving in the UK until just before the 18th (they are available on 18th). If you buy the tablet only version asus will be putting info on where to buy the keyboard only section soon.

32GB i think is delayed with the keyboards, so not available until stock levels stabilise.

As for the micro sd card slot working - I can confirm that it works perfectly. It is not in the SDcard location, but in a "removable" directory, but it is working fine :)
Fizzban 7th April 2011, 18:11 Quote
I'd be concerned about the docking mechanism. If anything is going to break quickly it's that.
Matchstick 7th April 2011, 18:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by human_error
I got mine from comet online. The keyboards are not arriving in the UK until just before the 18th (they are available on 18th). If you buy the tablet only version asus will be putting info on where to buy the keyboard only section soon.

32GB i think is delayed with the keyboards, so not available until stock levels stabilise.

As for the micro sd card slot working - I can confirm that it works perfectly. It is not in the SDcard location, but in a "removable" directory, but it is working fine :)

Thanks for that.

This and the news that Asus will be making keyboard upgrades available to early adopters to make up for the keyboard delays has convinced me to take the plunge :)
seeds 7th April 2011, 18:30 Quote
Thanks for the info human_error. All good to know. I believe I might wait till latter this month the Keyboard and 32GB version.
flibblesan 7th April 2011, 23:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by gpearson1968
I saw this webpage this morning questioning whether the ASUS transformer actually works with the Micro-SD slot right now as well :

https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/360366

Granted, it's a moronola website, but I'd still like to know.

Cheers,
gpearson1968

lol they are so bitter about the transformer being so much better than the overpriced Xoom they purchased :D
csa02221862 8th April 2011, 06:06 Quote
Bindibadgi 8th April 2011, 08:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by human_error
I got mine from comet online. The keyboards are not arriving in the UK until just before the 18th (they are available on 18th). If you buy the tablet only version asus will be putting info on where to buy the keyboard only section soon.

32GB i think is delayed with the keyboards, so not available until stock levels stabilise.

As for the micro sd card slot working - I can confirm that it works perfectly. It is not in the SDcard location, but in a "removable" directory, but it is working fine :)

Yea everything appears under the removable directory, so you'll get USB1 and USB2 as well once that KB arrives. :)

I read on that Motorola thread that someone thinks it's a reader only. I'll go home and dig out my MicroSD card again and see if I can write to it. I'm pretty sure it must be able to.

The keyboards are coming: the first small batch out the door were tablets only afaik as the few keyboards available were being sent to reviewers (sorry! tis the process). There's another, much bigger batch with keyboards that went out after but it'll still be en-route. I do know they aren't shipping as many keyboards+tablet as tablets only, and I think they might be surprised by how many keyboards sell tbh because it was assumed that people bought on price mostly (biggest iPad sales were 16GB WiFi by far), which could cause some short term shortage. It's so hard to judge - I read a lot of people are very price sensitive, but just as many are demanding a keyboard...

gpearson1968 - I've done some videos on it but not in real detail about the apps, just what they are. We're releasing them Monday. We have to balance what we do so not to take away from media and review sites - the review NDA will lift soon. :)

human_error - the language on MyNet is SPANISH? WTF? English should be English all over...?! I'm not entirely sure about that one. What language version are you using? I've got English US on mine here.
seeds 8th April 2011, 09:23 Quote
Bindi, thanks for the information (and all the info before this).

Quick question, do you know if the 32GB version are also coming with the bigger shipments?

-Seeds
Bindibadgi 8th April 2011, 09:38 Quote
I don't sorry, but I would guess they are concentrating on 16GB version give how many 16GB WiFi iPads sold vs 32G and 64G (although Apple charges WAY higher than the cost of the extra flash, unlike us ;)).

I've only seen an overview of expected shipment specs and that was even BEFORE we started this campaign - not since then. I expect given the huge interest (more than we anticipated) they've put the boot into up the production of all models though. I bloody hope so :P hahah
seeds 8th April 2011, 09:56 Quote
Ok thanks for that I will keep an eye out then (I'm am tempted just to get a 16GB version and by a 16GB or 32GB MicroSD Card).

-Seeds
Fangface 8th April 2011, 10:12 Quote
Has anyone used a capacitive stylus with this or any other 3.0 device yet? I want to use one when I am out on surveys and it would be really useful if I could draw sketches and write dimensions on screen.
gpearson1968 8th April 2011, 14:03 Quote
Ya know,

This is just pure awesomeness as my 6 yr old son would say.

Can't wait for the US release, even if I have to camp out at BestBuy the night before !

Cheers,
gpearson1968
flibblesan 8th April 2011, 17:38 Quote
Hey Bindi any chance you could mention to the Transformer team that the kernel source they uploaded isn't complete. Might just be an oversight on their part :)
Matchstick 8th April 2011, 17:47 Quote
Details of the keyboard upgrade deal have been appeared on the web and been linked to on the Asus UK twitter feed.

http://techinstyle.tv/news/eee-pad-transformer-keyboard-dock-offer/

It will be £54.99 inc p&p so that's the £50 the keyboard costs in the bundle plus £5 p&p which seems reasonable to me.
pukkanig1 8th April 2011, 23:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

human_error - the language on MyNet is SPANISH? WTF? English should be English all over...?! I'm not entirely sure about that one. What language version are you using? I've got English US on mine here.

Hi. I have the same problem as human_error. Language is set as English (UK) but MyNet is Spanish...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_B6VV3t_Ue84/TZ94FaqQ1YI/AAAAAAAAAEo/SJ-fjoHbH5U/s800/P20110408220031.png
Highland3r 9th April 2011, 12:21 Quote
Mine arrived yesterday and initial impressions are mixed. Honeycomb feels very beta at the moment, the browser lagged so much when inputting text to reply to this post that I'm typing this on an ipad2.

Hrdware wise the transformer seems decent, screen brightness seems a bit on the low side but image quality is good.
Build quality is ok, couple of creaks and a few sharp edges but on the whole it's decent. Connectors etc also feel sturdy (one of the complaints of the xoom)
The widescreen format takes a bit of getting used to, especially when holding the tablet in portrait. Still not quite convinced about it - that's pending watching some films on it though....

The asus widgets are good, easily removed and not overpowering at all. Haven't used the othe inbuilt apps a of yet.

Honeycomb itself is the biggest let down, feels unfinished with lots of random force closes. The tabbed browsing is good, but the lag on some pages is bad ( tablet mode doesn't do much to help either). The os seems relatively smooth, nothing wowing though. Wdgets are good and notifications work well certainly a breath if fresh air compared to iOS.
Once apps specifically for honeycomb tablets start to arrive things will hopefully improve. The lack of apps is understandable given the age of honeycomb and older apps seem to work well scaled up to a large screen.

Overall, the tablet is good but honeycomb needs some work. Wll play more over the next few days and update. Happy to test anything for people as well.
Fifer 9th April 2011, 19:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by gpearson1968
I saw this webpage this morning questioning whether the ASUS transformer actually works with the Micro-SD slot right now as well :

https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/360366

Granted, it's a moronola website, but I'd still like to know.

Cheers,
gpearson1968

Just got home from Comet with mine (they honoured the 5OFF 5% discount available online) and I can confirm that I can read and write to the uSD slot.

However, I cannot connect with my wifi network. The transformer sees it, but just seems to loop round authenticating/disabled endlessly. I'm starting to remember the networking nightmare that was the ASUS 901 netbook (which prompted me to try a static ip address, but no luck). Has anyone any suggestions?

EDIT: Started from scratch again and it now connects fine. I'll just put it down to finger trouble. Still playing, but so far I'm very impressed. Only downside so far are a few spurious disconnects, but it reconnects fairly promptly.
Nexxo 10th April 2011, 10:23 Quote
iPad had the same connection setup problems. Just rebooting the router appeared to work.

I would like to hear more about Honeycomb. Other reviews have said that it is still so buggy that it makes Android tablets not as good an experience as the iPad.
Fifer 10th April 2011, 13:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxo

I would like to hear more about Honeycomb. Other reviews have said that it is still so buggy that it makes Android tablets not as good an experience as the iPad.

It is slightly buggy. I've had a few spurious disconnects and one web pages repeatedly throws me out of the browser. As Highland3r reports above, text entry in the browser is painfully laggy. I've tried the Asus keyboard and the Android version, but each is the same in this respect. However, text entry into the Polaris word processor is fine, leading me to suspect it's something to do with the browser. I'll download and alternative browser later to see if the problem is the same.

Also, the Asus time widget on the home screen doesn't appear to advance date at midnight as is should, but maybe there's a setting I've not found yet.
Apache14 10th April 2011, 20:26 Quote
Bindibadgi a few questions :)

1) the source code for the transformer is incomplete, i can merge a LOT of the missing stuff in from nvidia's .36 kernel but there are still a few headers missing

yuv_sensor.h bing one of them

will there be a new complete source uploaded ?


2) seems that the normal nvflash from nvidia is not compatible with the transformer

rcm 0x04
usb write failed

nvflash doesn't seem to be locked out as data goes back and forth but im thinking that it needs a different version of nvflash. If this is the case will asus be releasing the version needed ?


The transformer is an awesome device but would be better with community support and the ability to add stuff to the kernel like CIFS / NFS for video streaming

Many Thanks In Advanced
VipersGratitude 11th April 2011, 00:41 Quote
I'm primed to buy one tommorrow, but need a usb port for dev purposes. Can someone confirm if the charging port basically a usb port in fancy dress?
Apache14 11th April 2011, 09:45 Quote
Yes the 40pin --> USB cable supplied allows USB client mode for file transfer + adb ect. ect.

PS its a 9 pin cable so it can also cary both +5v and +15v from the supplied charger ;)
Matchstick 11th April 2011, 10:29 Quote
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Highland3r 11th April 2011, 13:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
iPad had the same connection setup problems. Just rebooting the router appeared to work.

I would like to hear more about Honeycomb. Other reviews have said that it is still so buggy that it makes Android tablets not as good an experience as the iPad.


The overall experience (compared to iPad) is currently lacklustre. There are some EXCELLENT features of honeycomb (notifications, homescreen widgets, tabbed browsing) but the OS & apps aren't as polished as iOS. YET.

Current biggest gripe is with the stock browser - especially the lag on certain websites. Even with flash set to "on demand" there's still lag - this does seem to affect specific sites more than others - vbulletin based forums appear especially bad.
BBC iPlayer site for example worked rather well.
Need to do a bit more on this tonight, but it seems Firefox4 works quite well and should hopefully alleviate these issues.

One thing which I do like about Honeycomb is that the apps designed for mobile phones (assuming they run) actually look pretty decent. They seem to run full screen (al be it with lower res textures on the most part). This is a much better implementation than the iOS/iPad method and actually means most apps are perfectly usable.

I think a little bit of work from Google (they've openly admitted Honeycomb was rushed) will resolve a lot of the problems and improve performance. The relatively "standard" hardware platform we're seeing tablets wise should help things along as well.

If you have an specific area's you're after further "digging" then lmk.
Nexxo 11th April 2011, 16:34 Quote
Thanks for the info! ;)

My only other concern is that some people feel that the touch screen on the Android offerings is not as responsive as that on the iPad. And I definitely would like to hear your opinion on Firefox performance.

I really want this tablet to succeed. Let's hope that the next Honeycomb iteration is a bit more polished...
Highland3r 11th April 2011, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Thanks for the info! ;)

My only other concern is that some people feel that the touch screen on the Android offerings is not as responsive as that on the iPad. And I definitely would like to hear your opinion on Firefox performance.

I really want this tablet to succeed. Let's hope that the next Honeycomb iteration is a bit more polished...

Initially, yes I found it a little less responsive than the iPad. HOWEVER after using the tablet for a period of time it's no longer an issue.
The screen felt a little sticky on first use and I've left the greasy fingerprints on which helps "slick" it up a bit. Will give it a clean tonight and see if the initial issues were just due to the unit being new/having production residue on the screen or whether it is a more permanent feature.

It appears the transformer has been rooted which should allow for a little more customisation to start creeping in. Not ideal for an "out of the box experience" (which is what I wanted from a tablet fwiw) BUT hopefully it'll help bridge the gap until Google provides updates!
VipersGratitude 11th April 2011, 23:21 Quote
The ipad allows for more cack-handedness. The honeycomb ui, being a more than just a tile list of icons, demands more precise and considered movements - Not to the point of unusablity...It just takes some getting used to and gives the initial illusion of non-responsiveness.

Still admittedly needs polish though.
Highland3r 12th April 2011, 10:12 Quote
Response seems ok after a screen clean, no further stickyness etc so could just be some residue from manufacture.

Firefox is ok - it covers the "shortfalls" in the stock browser - i.e you can post on a forum without input lag. Flash doesn't work properly and the addon to alter browser UA strings doesn't seem to function properly (in fact all of the drop downs in the settings section appear not to work...)
I imagine, between the two browsers you'd get a good overall experience. Certainly not ideal though....
Bindibadgi 12th April 2011, 11:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Apache14
Bindibadgi a few questions :)

1) the source code for the transformer is incomplete, i can merge a LOT of the missing stuff in from nvidia's .36 kernel but there are still a few headers missing

yuv_sensor.h bing one of them

will there be a new complete source uploaded ?


2) seems that the normal nvflash from nvidia is not compatible with the transformer

rcm 0x04
usb write failed

nvflash doesn't seem to be locked out as data goes back and forth but im thinking that it needs a different version of nvflash. If this is the case will asus be releasing the version needed ?


The transformer is an awesome device but would be better with community support and the ability to add stuff to the kernel like CIFS / NFS for video streaming

Many Thanks In Advanced

Have to say, I've no idea on these issues sorry. It's not something we have ever discussed in marketing.
Magnesus 12th April 2011, 20:55 Quote
Amazon changed the date of Transformer+dock release to 1 June: "This item will be released on June 1, 2011." - anyone know why? I'll probably cancel my order (right know my order states 18th April, I don't know for how long...) if this is the case.
flibblesan 13th April 2011, 10:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Have to say, I've no idea on these issues sorry. It's not something we have ever discussed in marketing.

Is there anybody in the tablet team you can pass the message onto please? It's frustrating to see yet another big company abusing the GPL by releasing incomplete code.
Apache14 13th April 2011, 13:50 Quote
Agreed it's annoying :(

Also there is some inconstancy to what asus say about the boot-loader some blogs say it is unlocked. If that is the case we are lacking the tools and asus should provide them :D. When contacting support they say they cant provide any info (witch I guess is because I'm not talking to the correct person). I would love to get an official statement on this either way.

Source for a blog that says that its boot-loader unlocked :- http://pastebin.com/HijM94ZL

I hope to at lease get the src code :) and a full statement of the bootloader :)
mamoulian 13th April 2011, 16:46 Quote
@Bindibadgi is there an official Asus place we can build a list of issues, both hardware and software, which Asus can note for the next software update or file somewhere for future hardware releases?

Off the top of my head, collected from various forums:
Hardware: backlight bleed, right speaker louder, my compass seems screwy, USB cable too short*
Software: Browser keyboard laggy, quick settings missing bluetooth, no way to see which apps have updated, 'Battery usage data not available', camera is sometimes just green, Asus keyboard has pointless 'hide keyboard' and 'language' keys on the bottom left - would be good to swap these for something like @ and smileys, number keys have no shift mode or hold popup...

'You'll have to ask Google' is a fair response to some of the software ones, in which case we can link to an issue in the Android googlecode project, would be good to have manufacturer support for those.

Would be good to know what you are aware of and is already being worked on.


*will happily pay for an extension cable, can't find any 5-pin (?) USB extension cables online though :-/
Highland3r 14th April 2011, 11:30 Quote
Ok, a quick report back after using the device for a few days.
Gave it a factory reset on Sunday, this resulted in the device NOT attempting to re-install all the apps from my mobile.
Re-installed the apps I actually wanted/needed (excluding flash).

The browsing experience seems nicer without flash installed, the tabbed format is excellent - makes surfing so so much better than the ipad browser. Although pages don't navigate quite as smoothly as on the iPad that's liveable with. Text input is still laggy, but firefox is a good workaround. For browsing only the experience is ok.
Web pages load pretty quickly - need to do a direct compare against the iPad to get some figures at somepoint though.
Battery life seems ok (given usage patterns) - haven't charged since Sunday night and it's on ~ 30% at the mo. This is with auto-brightness set on most of the time, web surfing, some GTalk and light gaming.

The UI itself isn't massively smooth, but haven't experience any/many hangs of force closes. Apps generally load quickly and multi tasking is excellent. The only slight annoyance is full screen apps/games tend to leave the notification bar open - would be nice if more apps use the Honeycomb video method and fade the bar to a few dots.
flibblesan 14th April 2011, 15:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Highland3r
The UI itself isn't massively smooth, but haven't experience any/many hangs of force closes. Apps generally load quickly and multi tasking is excellent. The only slight annoyance is full screen apps/games tend to leave the notification bar open - would be nice if more apps use the Honeycomb video method and fade the bar to a few dots.

Paul over at modaco.com has found that ASUS have disabled hardware acceleration for the UI. IN a few days there will be some guides up at http://transformer.modaco.com on how to root the device and install an update to the rom that is much faster than the stock rom!

edit: Available now
Bindibadgi 14th April 2011, 17:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by mamoulian
@Bindibadgi is there an official Asus place we can build a list of issues, both hardware and software, which Asus can note for the next software update or file somewhere for future hardware releases?

Off the top of my head, collected from various forums:
Hardware: backlight bleed, right speaker louder, my compass seems screwy, USB cable too short*
Software: Browser keyboard laggy, quick settings missing bluetooth, no way to see which apps have updated, 'Battery usage data not available', camera is sometimes just green, Asus keyboard has pointless 'hide keyboard' and 'language' keys on the bottom left - would be good to swap these for something like @ and smileys, number keys have no shift mode or hold popup...

'You'll have to ask Google' is a fair response to some of the software ones, in which case we can link to an issue in the Android googlecode project, would be good to have manufacturer support for those.

Would be good to know what you are aware of and is already being worked on.


*will happily pay for an extension cable, can't find any 5-pin (?) USB extension cables online though :-/

I will pass it all on in an email to the software team.

There should be no backlight bleed/right speaker issue or compass problem :S

Honestly, they know they have a huge ass list of software tweaks and they are working through it. They've already dropped a few revisions of MyCloud and MyNet afaik. I am seeing the software PM Monday so I'll try and find time to ask her face to face about these. The problem is the final Google code came in, it got installed, it went out the door (first couple of batches at least). None of the Android 3 tablets will be as polished as iOS for 3-6 months I recon - even Google admitted it was quite rushed to meet the market. :( Also, the core apps in the market need updating: we just found out Skype doesnt currently work because it loads in portrait mode then crashes after login. So we have to wait for the Android 3 update for that. Such is being an early adopter I suppose. But, hey it works! and it could be worse, you could have bought a RIM ;) My favs are Fruit Slice (MUCH easier on a big screen) and I want to play some of the Tegra Zone games. The free one is naff but the space one looks tasty.

Fibble - I will pass on the message tomorrow. I'm not sure on my position to comment on it though as it's outside my job :( I know it's damn important - from a personal POV I would insist on it too - but I have to ask in the right way, to avoid any IP issue (the widgets and apps are our own and an investment by the company).

Battery life: The biggest killer is the WiFi. Kill WiFi whenever you are not using it and it'll last a good deal longer. That's the same as any smartphone or mobile device tbh and can't be avoided unfortunately due to current tech limits (on the plus side it'll always last longer than your phone because of bigger antenna and bigger batteries). That's why the flight mode is quickly accessible down the bottom corner popup box.

Magnesus - the tablet alone is this month, although I'll be castrated if I say the date due to NDA (they have a machine they use on journalists >_<) I'm not sure if that means with dock, that's what US (or any local) team only to knows right now - you'll have to keep checking US ASUS FB page. June is Computex! It should be well available by then because we still have Slider and Memo to get out the door this summer!!

I can't remember if I said this before but Freemake is an AWESOME video converter. Choose the Apple TV option (same codec) and select 1280x800 (or save space and select Android and 1024x600) and convert all your HD shows that way. Works every single time for me so far! Love using it on the train on the way to work :D If you use microSD or USB Flash (eventually) then it'll show a little icon in the corner - hit it, run the file, plays straight away. Easy :D (Also Tegra 2 plays back that h.264 profile at only 100mW :D)
Magnesus 14th April 2011, 18:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Magnesus - the tablet alone is this month, although I'll be castrated if I say the date due to NDA (they have a machine they use on journalists >_<) I'm not sure if that means with dock, that's what US (or any local) team only to knows right now - you'll have to keep checking US ASUS FB page. June is Computex! It should be well available by then because we still have Slider and Memo to get out the door this summer!!

Actually I'm from Poland not US, but Asus PL said the end of May tablet without the dock should be out in my country, so I'll probably buy it then (I tried on Amazon.co.uk - wanting to get it faster - but they delayed the order to June). I'll wait. Thanks for all the info.
I think most early adopters know about the issues with Honeycomb so it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as it will get mostly sorted in a few months.
flibblesan 14th April 2011, 23:17 Quote
Thanks Bindi. It's just the kernel code people need which shouldn't have any widget/apps etc :)

Glad to read that ASUS are already working on bugs.
Nexxo 15th April 2011, 20:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I am seeing the software PM Monday so I'll try and find time to ask her face to face about these.
Can you also convey from humble ol' me that they've got their tablet spot on? It's the first serious competitor to the iPad I have ever seen. ;)
Magnesus 17th April 2011, 08:28 Quote
Is possible to get information what digital to analog converter is used for the audio out in Transformer? Or at least what signal to noise ratio it has?
mamoulian 18th April 2011, 12:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I will pass it all on in an email to the software team.

There should be no backlight bleed/right speaker issue or compass problem :S

Thanks Bindibadgi,
If I look at something all black there's bright light leaking from a few points around the lower edge of the screen. Not terrible but it might be fixable in future builds... or I might have a dodgy unit?

Also if I'm in a dim environment the screen isn't totally even, there's some slightly darker blotches around middle-right. Again not to a terrible degree, but I'd like to know if that's just how IPS screens are or if I've got a dud.

My compass is quite broken. Google Sky Maps is not happy, jumps around all over the place whereas on my DHD it's very smooth. Compass (Catch) and GPSStatus show the same - it starts out roughly correct but if I wave/twist/tilt the device about a bit the compass gets completely lost. GPSStatus shows wildly jumping mag field (high 40s jumps to 300 ish) and Compass pops up a message something like 'abnormal magnetic field detected'.

Again I don't know if this is normal, if I have a duff unit or if it's a software issue. I expect speaking to Comet won't do me any good. I'd compare to another device but my local Comet have none in and don't think they will have soon.
Highland3r 19th April 2011, 18:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by mamoulian
Thanks Bindibadgi,
If I look at something all black there's bright light leaking from a few points around the lower edge of the screen. Not terrible but it might be fixable in future builds... or I might have a dodgy unit?

Also if I'm in a dim environment the screen isn't totally even, there's some slightly darker blotches around middle-right. Again not to a terrible degree, but I'd like to know if that's just how IPS screens are or if I've got a dud.

My compass is quite broken. Google Sky Maps is not happy, jumps around all over the place whereas on my DHD it's very smooth. Compass (Catch) and GPSStatus show the same - it starts out roughly correct but if I wave/twist/tilt the device about a bit the compass gets completely lost. GPSStatus shows wildly jumping mag field (high 40s jumps to 300 ish) and Compass pops up a message something like 'abnormal magnetic field detected'.

Again I don't know if this is normal, if I have a duff unit or if it's a software issue. I expect speaking to Comet won't do me any good. I'd compare to another device but my local Comet have none in and don't think they will have soon.

There have been some reports that last nights OTA update have helped/resolved the compass issues.



Can anyone who's ordered the keyboard dock (via the email address) confirm how long it took Asus to respond please?

Ta
Magnesus 19th April 2011, 21:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by mamoulian
Also if I'm in a dim environment the screen isn't totally even

It's very hard to find LCD that has even backlight. I wouldn't expect any to be perfectly uniform (maybe besides those pricey monitors for graphic artists).
Fifer 19th April 2011, 23:14 Quote
I received the invoice and payment instructions about 48hrs after emailing. I paid by electronic transfer on Friday evening but haven't received any receipt or acknowledgement. Has anyone had any confirmation since paying?
gpearson1968 21st April 2011, 14:43 Quote
It's finally coming to North America !!!

http://www.facebook.com/ASUSEee?sk=app_197846136904015

I can breathe again.....

Cheers,
gpearson1968
Magnesus 21st April 2011, 14:54 Quote
Asus Polska (Poland) said that the bootloader won't be unlocked. Why? Why close the doors for fans on making their own improvements? If it's so - I won't buy Tranformer, probably will try Xoom or something else. Very dissapointing.
topcat098 22nd April 2011, 10:22 Quote
I've had my eee Pad a few days and am very pleased with it (applied for K/B upgrade - response in 24 hrs, no response since I paid, but that is no problem).
My only issue is the lack of documentation that comes with it. Even the User Manual I've downloaded does not have much information. The problem I guess is that I want to do things but know nothing about Android / Honeycomb. What source of information do people recommend? I know I can post questions but I'd rather read up first.
amoruso3 1st May 2011, 23:13 Quote
ok this is a silly question, but do i need to purchase a seperate internet connection or pay a monthly fee to be hooked up to the wifi/hotspot? i have wifi at my home and office. will it connect to that?
Magnesus 3rd May 2011, 15:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by amoruso3
i have wifi at my home and office. will it connect to that?

Yes.
Mitcian 3rd May 2011, 16:52 Quote
Anyone got any new/recent insider info re: stock in the UK?
Really want to get hold of one and ebuyer has just pushed delivery date from 19th May to 1st June as with Amazon.

I'm considering checking out highstreet stores if they have any in stock + dock.
digital 28th May 2011, 12:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mitcian
Anyone got any new/recent insider info re: stock in the UK?
Really want to get hold of one and ebuyer has just pushed delivery date from 19th May to 1st June as with Amazon.

I'm considering checking out highstreet stores if they have any in stock + dock.

Have a look at Laskys. I've just ordered one from them and it's down for (free) delivery on 2 June.

It's £429.99 but if you access Laskys through TopCashBack there's a special voucher for 2.5% discount this weekend on top of the 'usual' TopCashBack commission of 3.53%, producing a £25.55 discount. If you're not a TopCashBack member, please consider registering using this (referral) link: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/digital

Possibly a daft question, but does the Transformer come with the microSD card slot empty, ie the 16/32GB is internal and not on a microSD card?
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