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VIA announces 'world's most power-efficient' dual-core CPU

VIA announces 'world's most power-efficient' dual-core CPU

Is this the world's most power-efficient dual-core processor?

VIA has just announced its new Eden X2 CPU, which it claims is the ‘world’s most power-efficient dual-core processor.

While no power-consumption figures are available yet, Engadget points out that the previous Eden ULV was clocked at 500MHz, but consumed just 1W of power under full load and an incredible 0.1W when idle, so the new chip should be similarly prudent when it comes to power. Other Eden ULV processors are clocked at 1GHz (with a power draw of up to 3.5W) and at 1.5GHz (with a power draw of up to 7.5W).

The Eden X2 isn’t a trivial announcement, as it runs the x86 instruction set and so can be used with a wide range of software. However, according to VIA, the new CPU is ‘optimised for fanless implementation in a broad range of industrial and commercial embedded systems,’ so don’t expect it to tear through any benchmarks.

For those kinds of uses, the ‘component longevity guarantee of 7 years’ will no doubt be reassuring, as will VIA's claims that the Eden X2 ‘guarantees rock-solid stability for mission critical systems without compromising on performance and features.

Unlike previous Eden processors, the Eden X2 uses a new 40nm manufacturing process, rather than the 90nm process used to make its previous CPUs. The Eden X2 uses a superscalar design with out-of-order execution and is compatible with 64-bit instructions; it also includes VIA's VT virtualisation instructions and the VIA AES Security Engine for hardware-based data encryption.

Daniel Wu, vice president of VIA’s embedded platform division, said that ‘embedded developers will relish the opportunity to integrate native 64-bit, dual-core processors in passively cooled, ultra stable systems.’ This may well be true, as the new Eden X2 is pin-compatible with previous Eden processors and is also compatible with x86 operating systems such as Windows Embedded Standard 7, Windows CE and Linux.

Are you pleased to hear about such a power-efficient x86 processor, or do you think ARM is the better architecture for low-power devices? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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paisa666 4th March 2011, 14:32 Quote
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????
paisa666 4th March 2011, 14:34 Quote
Seriously now... I see this is great for battery life in some gadgets!!... plus the fact that is x86 means we could see new netbooks with windows/linux platforms??
law99 4th March 2011, 16:19 Quote
Portable battery powered 3/4g router? Oh... wifi tether you say?
schmidtbag 4th March 2011, 16:20 Quote
both intel and amd could make a cpu as power efficient as 1W if they wanted to stoop to a frequency as low as 500MHz. but with windows 7 out, they realize they can't do this and expect to get sales. the eden will be great for linux based systems. since via is pretty cheap, i might consider searching for a netbook with an eden cpu in it. i'll probably want the 1ghz model.
Puzzu 4th March 2011, 16:27 Quote
Or Tablet, with the continue growth of that market a low power CPU would allow a bigger screen or thinner unit. you decided.
javaman 4th March 2011, 16:37 Quote
I've stopped caring about via, they've been So promising yet no actual products on shelves. Unless this competes with AMD E350 in terms of performance I couldn't care about it.
Jampotp 4th March 2011, 17:49 Quote
ARM defo has a better architecture then this... they're English, so they must be best. <-- this is a logical assumption
Ch33sefiend 4th March 2011, 18:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by paisa666
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????

I lol'ed :P
Zephyr 4th March 2011, 18:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ch33sefiend
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Originally Posted by paisa666
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????

I lol'ed :P

4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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This processor is a really attractive device for embedded systems and the rapidly growing tablet market. Dual-core, x86-64, AND 40nm sounds like they got the design right - can't wait to see some real-world tests against its ARM and other competitors.
paisa666 4th March 2011, 19:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
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Originally Posted by Ch33sefiend
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Originally Posted by paisa666
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????

I lol'ed :P

4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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This processor is a really attractive device for embedded systems and the rapidly growing tablet market. Dual-core, x86-64, AND 40nm sounds like they got the design right - can't wait to see some real-world tests against its ARM and other competitors.

Yes we Do
amdavies 4th March 2011, 20:14 Quote
I just want a cheap (c. £200) machine capable of running a Linux distribution while consuming less than 5W+storage, surely that's not impossible to ask ?
Unless I'm missing an option ?
Picarro 4th March 2011, 20:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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This processor is a really attractive device for embedded systems and the rapidly growing tablet market. Dual-core, x86-64, AND 40nm sounds like they got the design right - can't wait to see some real-world tests against its ARM and other competitors.

Dude. Don't **** with our Crysis jokes.




;)
leeroy 4th March 2011, 20:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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Carradine is dead, when the f*ck did that happen?
yogev_ezra 4th March 2011, 20:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by amdavies
I just want a cheap (c. £200) machine capable of running a Linux distribution while consuming less than 5W+storage, surely that's not impossible to ask ?
Unless I'm missing an option ?
The CPU is not the only power consuming element in the computer. Sometimes chip set (North / South Bridge) consumes as much as the CPU itself. I doubt the TOTAL power consumption (sans storage) of the announced VIA Eden dual core CPU will be less than 5Watt.

In my lab I have one computer with the original Via Eden ULV 500MHz CPU, and the power consumption at the outlet without any storage is about 7-8 Watt.
Zephyr 4th March 2011, 23:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by leeroy
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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Carradine is dead, when the f*ck did that happen?

Ya'll just answered my question for me, ty :)

Obviously the median age of forumites is 12 years old with a standard deviation of 4 months.
Well, except GOO, but he's such an outlier he doesn't count XD.

The three people I quoted, I suggest putting a modicum of thought (or even Google) into your posts in the future. Otherwise you're wasting your own time (posting nonsense drivel that anyone who can tie their own shoe is smart enough to skim over) and everyone else's (by having to filter through your unintelligible nonsense in every thread)

Naturally these three are a drop in the bucket of pointless post offenders, but all the emptyquote "LULZ FTW +++++REP" posts do nothing but bloat up server storage and make it harder to find posts with decent content.

Wait, I forgot to talk about how the French surrender, American's are fat, Germans are Nazi's, anyone from the Middle East or Afghanistan are bomb-strapped terrorists, and Japanese are all tentacle-rape hentai lovers.
javaman 5th March 2011, 00:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
4 years post-release and people are still first-posting and threadshitting with this crap? I know nerds are usually on the downswing-side of the humor hill but Crysis jokes were old when David Carradine died.
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This processor is a really attractive device for embedded systems and the rapidly growing tablet market. Dual-core, x86-64, AND 40nm sounds like they got the design right - can't wait to see some real-world tests against its ARM and other competitors.

4 Years on after that joke and people still feel the need to dump on people who make that joke. At least they're trying to bring humour to the boards rather than angry rants from trolls. I've no idea who David Carradine is or why you felt the need to inform ignorant people like me he was dead, nor could I be bothered digging him up (on google) to find out.

Also this is not designed for embedded systems. This designed for general purpose computing ie your PC. I highly doubt your operating system is highly optimised with programmes specifically tailored for your exact set up. Embedded systems are simple devices that often repeat a simple task over and over, much like people posting asking will it run crysis.
How does x86-64 and 40nm tell they have got the design right? surely the performance per watt is what decides if they got the design right? Intel atom Z6xx is a dual core, 45nm x86-64 processor yet it makes many people cry. Since ARM isn't in the x86 market I'm pretty sure they don't care how well this runs windows especially in the tablet market. Infact they probably laugh every time they hear the words windows 7 tablet and THAT is a far more painful thing to have to read about than some crysis joke made over and over.
mute1 5th March 2011, 00:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
snippy snip
Zephyr, I agree with you that the Crysis jokes were stupid and should have ended years ago but lighten up. Rants take up server space too.
greigaitken 5th March 2011, 05:13 Quote
when i read "but can it play crysis?", i translate it to
"I have nothing interesting or funny to say but i want my voice to be heard"
morkfromork 5th March 2011, 07:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by greigaitken
when i read "but can it play crysis?", i translate it to
"I have nothing interesting or funny to say but i want my voice to be heard"

I agree with all that. However crysis seems to be held on such a pedestool that since it there has never been anything that people can use. The "but can it play crysis?" sentance will still be used for years due to this fact.
l3v1ck 5th March 2011, 07:56 Quote
I just wish you could buy netbook with these in. Head to Dixons or PC World and all you get is Atom, Atom, Atom......
The_Beast 5th March 2011, 09:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
Ya'll just answered my question for me, ty :)

Obviously the median age of forumites is 12 years old with a standard deviation of 4 months.
Well, except GOO, but he's such an outlier he doesn't count XD.

The three people I quoted, I suggest putting a modicum of thought (or even Google) into your posts in the future. Otherwise you're wasting your own time (posting nonsense drivel that anyone who can tie their own shoe is smart enough to skim over) and everyone else's (by having to filter through your unintelligible nonsense in every thread)

Naturally these three are a drop in the bucket of pointless post offenders, but all the emptyquote "LULZ FTW +++++REP" posts do nothing but bloat up server storage and make it harder to find posts with decent content.

Wait, I forgot to talk about how the French surrender, American's are fat, Germans are Nazi's, anyone from the Middle East or Afghanistan are bomb-strapped terrorists, and Japanese are all tentacle-rape hentai lovers.

Who pissed in your coffee this morning?

Let them make their crysis jokes, it's teh internetz, no one cares
confusis 5th March 2011, 09:17 Quote
Show me a 2+ghz dual core, VIA, under 30watts, and my next board will be from you
metarinka 5th March 2011, 15:15 Quote
david caradine was Bill in kill bill, among other things. He died from autoerotic asphyxiation... rumor had it he was mad his computer couldn't play crysis.
sleepygamer 5th March 2011, 15:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Beast
Let them make their crysis jokes, it's teh internetz, no one cares

But can teh internetz play Crysis? I think we have deviated from the point here. The ability of everything to play Crysis ever.
dicobalt 5th March 2011, 15:52 Quote
Nvidia and VIA should do something together. Nvidia has been crying about not having an x86 license and VIA is squandering its x86 license.
thehippoz 5th March 2011, 16:46 Quote
have to wait and see what the total draw is going to be.. remember the atom chipset drew a lot of power

might be a fun linux platform for geeks though.. I see netbooks running 300mhz being sold in china (running windows ce)- no idea what's inside them
Sparky__H 5th March 2011, 17:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by dicobalt
Nvidia and VIA should do something together. Nvidia has been crying about not having an x86 license and VIA is squandering its x86 license.

Surely, unless the licence agreement was written by monkeys, it includes a provision to stop that.
yogev_ezra 5th March 2011, 17:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by l3v1ck
I just wish you could buy netbook with these in. Head to Dixons or PC World and all you get is Atom, Atom, Atom......
You could before Atom appeared (and there are still a few selling somewhere), but they are just not good enough to compare even with Atom (only 1 core, about the same price, bad drivers,...)
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Originally Posted by thehippoz
might be a fun linux platform for geeks though.. I see netbooks running 300mhz being sold in china (running windows ce)- no idea what's inside them
I doubt the dual-core VIA price will be cheaper than Atom, and they need to be cheaper to be competitive. The 300MHz netbooks have ARM so they cannot run Windows XP, and they are just too weak even for good Linux. They are even weaker than your average smart-phone today.
wiak 5th March 2011, 18:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by paisa666
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????
yes, crysis 2 :D
MSHunter 5th March 2011, 19:18 Quote
finding a net book without atom = easy.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/257509
finding one with out an atom and with ION 2 = impossible.
KidMod-Southpaw 5th March 2011, 19:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by paisa666
Good... power efficient... but can it play crysis????

No
Zephyr 5th March 2011, 20:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by javaman
4 Years on after that joke and people still feel the need to dump on people who make that joke. At least they're trying to bring humour to the boards rather than angry rants from trolls. I've no idea who David Carradine is or why you felt the need to inform ignorant people like me he was dead, nor could I be bothered digging him up (on google) to find out.


Sorry, but repeatedly posting a joke multiple times in multiple different threads is not humor. I'm also sorry that you are a either so sheltered or so ignorant you have no desire to expand your mind, I hope that you can find something in life that motivates you to be an active and willing member of society.
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Originally Posted by javaman
A bunch of nonsense clearly proving I know nothing about the topic on which I choose to run my mouth.

You truly and honestly could not be more incorrect about ANYTHING you've stated here. Instead of reading the first paragraph of the article and scrolling to the comments, try reading the whole article and following some links. Embedded systems are a huge portion of ARM's revenue, and this VIA chip is specifically for embedded systems - offering some nice features that ARM don't.

But lol, let's compare the CPU designed to fulfill any one of a billion applications to a single, very specialized type of programming and architecture: video games.

When you go shopping, for an automobile for example, I can just see you shouting the same thing to every salesman showing you options: "CAN IT DRAG RACE A VEYRON EH?!?!?!?!"
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Originally Posted by greigaitken
when i read "but can it play crysis?", i translate it to
"I am not funny or interesting in any way but this was funny once right? i'll finally be kewl!"

^^ Ftfy
thehippoz 5th March 2011, 21:31 Quote
hehe have to agree with javaman.. just because I like his posts

zep just do like most of us.. skip the crysis posts, why would that bother you really..

reminds me of the evga forum we had this guy who claimed to have a high iq.. one weekend a troll named *******sword duped his name and spammed the board

he got so roid raged he left the forum forever.. mods were all off on weekends- and the non-payed mods didn't have ban priv

his high iq couldn't save him from a 12 years rumors about him swinging upside down on a swingbar with no pants on
Cthippo 6th March 2011, 05:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by KidMod-Southpaw
No

I don't know. Dual core 64 bit at 1 ghz...

Couple this with a decent graphics card and it just might play Crysis. Sooner or later the economy hardware is going to advance to the point where it's possible.
wafflesomd 6th March 2011, 05:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
Sorry, but repeatedly posting a joke multiple times in multiple different threads is not humor. I'm also sorry that you are a either so sheltered or so ignorant you have no desire to expand your mind, I hope that you can find something in life that motivates you to be an active and willing member of society.




What's this guys problem?
Sheiken 6th March 2011, 14:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd
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Originally Posted by Zephyr
Sorry, but repeatedly posting a joke multiple times in multiple different threads is not humor. I'm also sorry that you are a either so sheltered or so ignorant you have no desire to expand your mind, I hope that you can find something in life that motivates you to be an active and willing member of society.




What's this guys problem?

He is mad that someone beat him to the "Can it play Crysis" joke....
Dreamslacker 7th March 2011, 07:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sparky__H

Surely, unless the licence agreement was written by monkeys, it includes a provision to stop that.

I doubt so. The license would be for the CPU. The problem is that the volume of VIA platforms sold is probably too low for NVIDIA to want to throw in their lot to R&D a chipset just for the VIA CPU. Not to mention, VIA wouldn't need NVIDIA to produce a chipset for their platforms and doing so would just reduce their potential profits - since the VIA CPUs are embedded, this entails the need for VIA to buy the chipset from NVIDIA and bundle it with the CPU for sale to the manufacturers. i.e. double margins result in higher sale price or lowered profits.
Tattysnuc 7th March 2011, 10:03 Quote
I'd like to see this in a proper Windows 7 "phone." If they can do that then I'd buy one. Imagine if for work everyone had a windows 7 phone and all you did was to plug it in to a base station to connect to a monitor, keyboard, usb hub and network and then ran your work stuff on a terminal server, then when you'd finished you simply unhook it and go home. Then Blackberry and iPhone would finally be functionally superseded in the workplace....
paisa666 8th March 2011, 17:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd
What's this guys problem?

He's getting old

Tho im on that same path :D
Skiddywinks 9th March 2011, 03:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by greigaitken
when i read "but can it play crysis?", i translate it to
"I have nothing interesting or funny to say but i want my voice to be heard"

Yeh, I agree when you put it that way. Like sh*t facebook updates for attention :(
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