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AMD Radeon HD 6800-series benchmarked

AMD Radeon HD 6800-series benchmarked

AMD's new Radeon HD 6870 card should offer a performance boost - but leaked benchmarks tell a different tale.

More details of AMD's up-coming Radeon HD 6850 and 6870 cards have leaked, and this time we've got some hard numbers - albeit ones that don't paint the new devices in a particularly good light.

Chinese-language tech site XFastest.com claims to have got its hands on some of AMD's as-yet unreleased 6000-series Radeon HD cards, and has run them through 3DMark Vantage and 3DMark06 benchmarking suites to see how well they stack up against their predecessors.

Before we get into the numbers, it's worth mentioning at this point that these are preliminary results that come from possibly unfinished hardware and definitely unfinished drivers, and there's almost certainly room for improvement before the cards are unleashed onto the world.

The AMD Radeon HD 6850, the mid-range replacement for the Radeon HD 5850, scored a reasonable 14,872 3DMarks in the Vantage suite and 18,750 in the 3DMark06 benchmark tests. That doesn't compare particularly well to its last-generation predecessor, which managed 15,593 and 19,480 3DMarks respectively - meaning that the new card has an almost 5 percent drop in performance on the Vantage benchmark.

The story isn't any better at the higher end, with the Radeon HD 6870 scoring 16,270 and 19,480 in the two benchmark suites, compared to its direct predecessor's 17,924 and 19,433 - this time almost a 10 percent drop in performance in Vantage, although a better showing in 3DMark06.

With the Radeon HD 6870 slated to feature a 900MHz core clock, 960 stream processors, and an effective GDDR5 memory frequency of 4,200MHz, you'd be forgiven for thinking that it should perform significantly better than its last-generation predecessor - so let's hope that the current figures are simply an aberration in the drivers, for AMD's sake.

Are you waiting for the final release to make a decision on AMD's latest cards, or do you think that we won't be seeing any major performance leaps until the Cayman-based 6900-series cards come out? Share your thoughts over in the forums.

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mi1ez 12th October 2010, 11:23 Quote
I'll wait for official benchmarks, with final drivers etc.
xaser04 12th October 2010, 11:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by article
With the Radeon HD 6870 slated to feature a 900MHz core clock, 960 stream processors, and an effective GDDR5 memory frequency of 4,200MHz, you'd be forgiven for thinking that it should perform significantly better than its last-generation predecessor - so let's hope that the current figures are simply an aberration in the drivers, for AMD's sake.

Um what are you comparing it to here?


Assuming you mean the 5870 then it comes as no suprise that this '960sp' card would be slower than the 850 mhz 1600 shader 5870 (architecture improvements included).
proxess 12th October 2010, 11:39 Quote
I'll wait for the official bit-tech numbers (because bit-tech is official).
MaverickWill 12th October 2010, 11:42 Quote
There's rumours going around in the last couple of days that the 69XX series are the replacements for the 58XX series, which provides more options for mid-range cards.

If we're looking at shader counts only, the 6870 sits right between the 5770 and 5830. So the performance increase for a card at that point is quite nice.
Hustler 12th October 2010, 11:48 Quote
Yeah, i think you need to wait until all this confusion regarding the naming scheme has been cleared up....

From what i've been reading over the last week, the 6850 will be AMD's response to the 460....

The 5850/5870 replacements will now be called the 6950/6970....

AMD are doing an Nvidia stylee name rebranding...doh!!!
wuyanxu 12th October 2010, 11:49 Quote
now, where's my salt bottle.......

AMD marketing guy 1: "i don't think we'll sell this generation very well, without major performance changes"
marketing guy 2: "why don't we change the naming scheme we've had for all previous generation cards, and make x8xx the mid-range"
1: "doh..... great idea"

or they've recently hired nVidia's card naming guy.
MaverickWill 12th October 2010, 11:54 Quote
I hardly think a 5-10% distance between 68XX and the flagship 58XX relegates it to mid-range...
wuyanxu 12th October 2010, 12:01 Quote
8800GTX - flagship --> gtx250 to gtx260 - midrange.
4870 - flagship --> 5770 - midrange

the flagship card of current generation should be the speed of mid-range cards in next generation
MaverickWill 12th October 2010, 12:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
8800GTX - flagship --> gtx250 to gtx260 - midrange.
4870 - flagship --> 5770 - midrange

the flagship card of current generation should be the speed of mid-range cards in next generation

There's a 9-series missing there... ;)
faugusztin 12th October 2010, 12:33 Quote
In short for Gareth - HD6870 is not the single chip highend of HD6xxx series.
Paradigm Shifter 12th October 2010, 12:36 Quote
Hm.

It's a new architecture; you're not telling me that they've dropped the shader count from 1600 to 960 without it being rather different. And new architectures always take time to grow into their performance - Fermi wasn't looking too good at release, but after several driver releases its in much better shape.
Xir 12th October 2010, 12:38 Quote
All depends on who you ask :D
I count all this as speculation

http://www.hardware-infos.com/news.php?news=3692
These guys note that chinese "PCINLIFE" tested the card as 30% faster than the 5780.
Though they reach very different numbers in 3DMark Vantage.
HD6870 11.963points (in extreme mode) :?
HD5870 ~9000points

Check the specifications in the table or in the CPU-z picture
wuyanxu 12th October 2010, 12:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by MaverickWill
There's a 9-series missing there... ;)
good spot. suppose the 6 series of AMD will be similar to the 9 series of nVidia 2 years ago.

at least they didn't simply rename 5870 to 6870.
Evildead666 12th October 2010, 12:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hustler
Yeah, i think you need to wait until all this confusion regarding the naming scheme has been cleared up....

From what i've been reading over the last week, the 6850 will be AMD's response to the 460....

The 5850/5870 replacements will now be called the 6950/6970....

AMD are doing an Nvidia stylee name rebranding...doh!!!

Its not rebranding, its making a proper line of cards, spaced out equally this time.
There was a large gap where the GF104 is now, and this generation will have no gaps.

Other than that, you are probably right that the 5850/5870 successors are to be the 69xx series.
The 68xx series is filling the gap there was between the 57xx and 58xx series.
dyzophoria 12th October 2010, 13:06 Quote
Why test it on Vantage, It would be better to test it on real games imo, anyhow, hope they are just preliminary reports
AshT 12th October 2010, 13:14 Quote
waiting for BT's benchmarks
Vigilante 12th October 2010, 13:15 Quote
Now, please chastise me if I am being wrong here, but I was almost 100% sure that the first cards to be released this generation from ati (whether they be named similarly to previous generations or not) were based on the Southern Islands core, using old-school (5800 and older) shader cores with the new improved memory and off chip improvements meant to be released in Northern islands, the "actual" successor to the 5800 series and that will be a few months ahead of the launch of the mid range southern islands parts.

That means that, assuming shader counts remain roughly the same as current gen (or even a slight drop), performance scaling even for southern islands (the "mid range" parts) is phenomenal, akin to pentium 4 vs core. I am extremely excited about this generation, not least of all because again ATI will have managed to usurp the green team with a proper gaming-oriented gpu and not some hpc monstrosity that happens to play games, but because it'll be just in time to capitalise on my upgrade to Sandy Bridge in February.
mrbens 12th October 2010, 14:18 Quote
lol @ the naming scheme. If the 6870 isn't better than the 5870 because they chose a stupid new naming system then someone at AMD needs sacking for incompetence! :)
casper410 12th October 2010, 14:24 Quote
I still dont see the need to upgrade. But if i am in the market and wanted a AMD gpu, i wouldnt target anything else other then a 6 series.
My advice would be to hang on and allow the market to rev up and cool down, question is how long until Nvidia reply ? I predict 6-7 months from now at least.
azrael- 12th October 2010, 14:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Evildead666
Its not rebranding, its making a proper line of cards, spaced out equally this time.
There was a large gap where the GF104 is now, and this generation will have no gaps.

Other than that, you are probably right that the 5850/5870 successors are to be the 69xx series.
The 68xx series is filling the gap there was between the 57xx and 58xx series.
I'm not sure how adopting the most inane naming scheme for the new 6xxx series will fill the gap, where the GF104 currently resides.

If anything naming the Barts the 67xx series, as expected by most, and pricing it similarly (as they hopefully will) would have done much more to close said gap.

Instead, some dimwit marketing drone at AMD thought that making sure Barts is confused with the proper Cypress successor (Cayman) and generating initial bad press for the new series (like this article) would be a bright idea.
CustomPCMAX 12th October 2010, 14:54 Quote
I will wait for some official benchmarks and reviews before making any conclusions.
Pete J 12th October 2010, 14:57 Quote
Artificial benchmarks = rubbish.

When I see figures for Metro 2033 and Crysis then I'll be happy.
Shayper09 12th October 2010, 15:24 Quote
Can I just say that the 6850 ISN'T the replacement for the 5850? In most of the roadmaps given so far it's a replacement for the 5750, meant to be put in direct contention with the 460 768mb version. And as for the 6870, that is the replacement for the 5770, and put in direct contention with the 460 1gb version. They are the Barts Pro and Barts XT parts, NOT the Cayman Pro and Cayman XT parts that, on their arrival as the 6950 and the 6970, will be the the direct replacements for the 5850 and 5870. And judging by the performance increase over the lower level cards here (these cards should be released in the same price segments) these cards are going to be WOWZOMG fast =].
Hustler 12th October 2010, 15:42 Quote
Probable price points?.....(including greedy retailer price gouging launch premium for the dopey saps that just have to have the latest & greatest on day 1)....

6850 = £149.99
6870 = £199.99
6950 = £279.99
6970 = £349.99

Reasonable ball park figures...?
Yoy0YO 12th October 2010, 15:51 Quote
What happened to the Adam West cooler? I'm sad to see it go :(
CharlO 12th October 2010, 16:18 Quote
Or a fake lie from Xfastest?
Archandel 12th October 2010, 16:47 Quote
Before: ATI 5750-5770 => GTX460 => 5850-5870 (not counting the crap 5830 which was actually a severly crippled 5870 reference design card, so not really mainstream, just junk.)
After: AMD 6750-6770 => 6850-6870 => 6950-6970

The point is, that there will be no place for nVidia graphics, where AMD hasn't got a more superior product both in technology and price. And the new naming scheme, given the performance gap of the previous generation, gives now much more sense.
Goty 12th October 2010, 16:52 Quote
Way to fail at some basic research, BT.
Archandel 12th October 2010, 16:54 Quote
And after all who gives a f? It's just a name. I don't care if they call it the "Armageddon Massacre Destroyer 9999GranTourismo XXX+++ Ultra Elite"... All i want is a decent price and an outrageous price/performance ratio. I'm waiting for the new "4850".
steelmartin 12th October 2010, 16:58 Quote
AMD is confusing the market with this new branding scheme. Or is it new?

Gareth's article is based on the misconception that just because AMD branded the cards as 68xx they're the replacements for the 58xx. But to be fair, the 6xxx-series is a new series, and if AMD judge that these cards are worthy of the enhusiast x8xx-naming instead of the performance x7xx within the 6xxx- series, that's their call.

As long as all 68xx-cards are faster than the available performance 57xx-cards, it's actually not a "lie" to call the new carrds enthusiast class, all it means is that AMD probably will stretch the upper limit of the enthusiast segment when they release the high-end parts later, but keep the lower limit.

Still, it's confusing, beacuse we've been getting used to that the whole performance segment would get shifted upwards with each release of a new generation of cards. Apparently not so this time? AMD will have some PR issues to explain this to those like Gareth who expects a 6850 to be faster than a 5850...
Archandel 12th October 2010, 17:05 Quote
It's easier to shift the line a notch up, than doing the opposite. Current cards range from:
5970
5870
5850
(5830) = And you want to place 2 products right here. It's more logical to "rename" the top 3, than moving the whole bottom line say -100 in the naming scheme.
5770
5750
5670
5570
5550
5450
bobwya 12th October 2010, 17:56 Quote
MEH nothing to see here folks...
murraynt 12th October 2010, 18:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by Goty
Way to fail at some basic research, BT.

Kinda harsh man, Bit-tech know the same amount as we do at this moment.
All this stuff of a 6850 equaling a 5770 is still speculation.
Even if Bit-Tech did know (like the upcoming GTX 485 ;)) they would still not be aloud say anything to the public.
PingCrosby 12th October 2010, 18:43 Quote
I think I'll have a cup of tea.
Fizzban 12th October 2010, 19:23 Quote
I'm going to wait for official info. All this unofficial info has gone from the 6770 being as powerful as a 5850 to a 6850 being as powerful as a 5770. *yawns*
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Originally Posted by PingCrosby
I think I'll have a cup of tea.

Sounds good. I think I'll join you.
Senilex 12th October 2010, 19:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by murraynt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goty
Way to fail at some basic research, BT.

Kinda harsh man, Bit-tech know the same amount as we do at this moment.
All this stuff of a 6850 equaling a 5770 is still speculation.
Even if Bit-Tech did know (like the upcoming GTX 485 ;)) they would still not be aloud say anything to the public.

Its been widespread common knowledge for MONTHS that Barts sits below Cayman in the codename hierarchy. With Cayman at the top (Antilles above it with dual GPU) how can one (from a Tech website) even assume this is a 5850/5870 direct replacement.
Goty 12th October 2010, 19:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by murraynt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goty
Way to fail at some basic research, BT.

Kinda harsh man, Bit-tech know the same amount as we do at this moment.

I agree with you on both points, but I make a living penalizing people for not thinking (I teach) and they DO have exactly as much information as we do.
spoors1979 12th October 2010, 19:55 Quote
oh no what new card do i buy now thats a spanner in the works do i wait for these to come out properly or buy now
Orca 12th October 2010, 19:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by spoors1979
oh no what new card do i buy now thats a spanner in the works do i wait for these to come out properly or buy now

I'm in the same boat :( Waiting on the official word on these before pulling the trigger for my new build. Hopefully it'll be worth it...
HourBeforeDawn 12th October 2010, 20:26 Quote
Considering that nothing can be officially released in terms of results until Oct 22, I will hold these as an attempt to make the card look bad.
HourBeforeDawn 12th October 2010, 20:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Goty
Quote:
Originally Posted by murraynt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goty
Way to fail at some basic research, BT.

Kinda harsh man, Bit-tech know the same amount as we do at this moment.

I agree with you on both points, but I make a living penalizing people for not thinking (I teach) and they DO have exactly as much information as we do.

how can they have the same info as us when they have a 6 series AMD Graphics cards in their test labs? If thye dont then wow AMD doesnt love them, considering how large they are and other smaller reviewers already got their samples. Cant mention names because of the Oct 22 date that such data cant be officially released until then but ya Bit-Tech should know A LOT more at this point. They probably cant talk about it but at the very least you think they would dispel this info. Maybe they dont have card, if so then thats a bit shocking.
Goty 12th October 2010, 21:05 Quote
Punctuation would go a long way toward making that post readable.
frontline 12th October 2010, 21:43 Quote
From Rage3D.com a while back:
Quote:
Rage3D: What's the best part of being employed by AMD?

Terry Makedon: Being on the leading edge of technology. I totally love reading all the tech sites and the forums - when everyone is trying to guess what our future products are, or combing through Catalyst for clues for upcoming chips, or reading the usual rumour tech sites and seeing how much info they post is actually wrong. Its kinda cool knowing everything that a lot of people are dying to find out about. Not only do I know a lot about what is coming out this year and next, but we are already working on stuff for 3 or 4 years down the road.

Think i'll wait for a released product and a definitive review on bit-tech :)
Publ!c Enemy 12th October 2010, 22:16 Quote
Hello, everyone seems to be bothered about the naming but my question is does anyone know the power draw of these card or the manufacturing process? just because then there new line up would make more sense.
HourBeforeDawn 12th October 2010, 22:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Publ!c Enemy
Hello, everyone seems to be bothered about the naming but my question is does anyone know the power draw of these card or the manufacturing process? just because then there new line up would make more sense.

We will know A LOT more on Oct 22. when all this info, review results and so on can go public.
murraynt 12th October 2010, 23:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
how can they have the same info as us when they have a 6 series AMD Graphics cards in their test labs? If thye dont then wow AMD doesnt love them, considering how large they are and other smaller reviewers already got their samples. Cant mention names because of the Oct 22 date that such data cant be officially released until then but ya Bit-Tech should know A LOT more at this point. They probably cant talk about it but at the very least you think they would dispel this info. Maybe they dont have card, if so then thats a bit shocking.

I might still be a bit early for them to have the card.I don't know what they can say and what they cant say.
But i think saying what it is a replacement for might give away a bit much.
But i would put 50 euro on it that the have a 485GTX
murraynt 12th October 2010, 23:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senilex
Its been widespread common knowledge for MONTHS that Barts sits below Cayman in the codename hierarchy. With Cayman at the top (Antilles above it with dual GPU) how can one (from a Tech website) even assume this is a 5850/5870 direct replacement.

I don't know if this is a negative comment or positive.
We know nothing at this point.
Gradius 13th October 2010, 01:02 Quote
Official release: 10/19 !
HourBeforeDawn 13th October 2010, 01:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gradius
Official release: 10/19 !

Well the NDA that AMD has in place is lifted Oct 22 so I would take that as being a bit more official then the 19th unless they want to sell cards before people are allowed to talk about them lol.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 13th October 2010, 06:26 Quote
What's with all the speculation? Just give us real numbers when the cards are in your grubby little hands.

Real benchmarks at 8x AA 16x AF max graphics 1920 x 1080 using BFBC2 Metro 2033 w/ Full Tessellation Crysis Warhead and Stalker Call of Pripyat oh and crossfire configurations too.

Besides AMD is changing the number scheme, 6850 is the new 5770 or some crap like that.
GaMEChld 13th October 2010, 07:38 Quote
It's interesting. I was pretty against the renaming before I've read these comments, but now I am understanding the need for it. Sure, we are going to have a hiccup this generation as the performance of the top 2-3 tiers is not completely in line with the previous generation's naming conventions. But the name's were already in a state of flux since the 5000 series was the first time we saw the 5900 series emerge in instead of the X2 cards. Now they are further growing out the 900 category to include all the high end, including the dual GPU cards.

So I'm predicting 6950, 6970, 6990 to be the successors to 5850, 5870, 5970 respectively. Someone else said it well about filling the gaps in performance currently exposed by the GTX 460, as well as it being easier to rename the top 3 tiers than everything below them.

On the flip side of the coin, it can be argued that the top tiers are what gain the most attention, and pulling a questionable rebranding move, especially with the bashing Nvidia received when they did it earlier, is just going to bring bad press more than anything else. I'm not sure this was the right move for AMD when they are for the first time removing the ATI brand. Then again, maybe this is the perfect time to make a naming change if there is ever going to be a naming change, because they can say that these are AMD cards, not ATI, so the numbers are allowed to be a little off for one generation. In that case though, they could have changed the naming much more significantly, like using 3 digits instead of 4 like nvidia does.

/rant
Archandel 13th October 2010, 10:17 Quote
The 6850 should be the new "something" between the 5770 (6770?) and the 5870 (6970?). Also called the "GTX460 Hammer".
Snips 13th October 2010, 12:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Archandel
The 6850 should be the new "something" between the 5770 (6770?) and the 5870 (6970?). Also called the "GTX460 Hammer".

You wish!
Xir 13th October 2010, 13:05 Quote
IF* the naming scheme is to be changed...I don't understand marketing**
For me, the logical way for a new generation would be +1000 So:

5850 -> 6850
5870 -> 6870
5970 -> 6970
But that would just be too easy :D

*yes, that's a big if
** seeing i don't understand marketing in general, and graphics cards naming schemes in particular, 'tis almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, no?
jrs77 13th October 2010, 16:12 Quote
I'm still impressed by all the people giving a damn about those naming-stuff for products like GFX-cards.

AMD could name their new cards Kitty 100, Kitty 200 and Kitty 300 and it wouldn't change any of the really interesting questions.

The only thing of interest are: price, performance and powerconsumption.
Monkey Puzzle 14th October 2010, 01:25 Quote
Bit odd of the article to say the 6850 and 6870 don't compare favourably to the top end 5 single-GPU series cards given the nvidiaesque renaming strategy. Just reads like he's completely missed the point. If the writer of the article knows about the renaming then the article just misleads less clued-up buyers even more. Anyone with a passing interest knows these aren't goin to be the top end cards coming out from AMD. These cards aren't replacements for the 5850 and 5870, they're replacements for the midrange cards. If you're going to jump the gun and write an article like this, at least point out that these cards aren't the new top end.
madmike32 14th October 2010, 10:58 Quote
Well just think maybe AMD/ATI have finally got the hype bit right... send out a 6770 and make people and Nvidia think its a 6870... then bring out the full phat version with good gains in performance over its older 5000 series model..

So just look 960 stream processors... 5770 had 800.. and the 5870 had 1600... so its looking like a 6770 not a 6870.. that would mean that the 6870 will have 1920 stream processors if thats the case :-).. and in theory it would perform well with that many..

There is no reason at all for AMD to change the numbering system and i believe its just marketing skill from them the right way for a change... rather than last time sending out bigger better scores than the real version was capable of.. The above will be a 6770.. not at 6870 like that site are trying to say etc...

It sure would not make any sense from AMD's point of view to bring out a lower performing card with less rops is it.. sheesh that would be stupid....Now my next wonder is what bit bus the one they tested was ?? 256? if thats the case then maybe rumours of a 512 bit bus for 6800 series may be true..?? ..

Or AMD just decided that the 6770 will just be less streaming processors rather than less bus speed?... now there is a thought to ponder on peeps ;-).As usual i will wait for propper test's from here before i then make my mind up about the new cards... as hype is usually rubbish...real figures in real situations like tests done here are what people want.. not hyped up trash...
Snips 14th October 2010, 15:43 Quote
No it's just more smoke and mirrors from the AMD PR machine.

If you were thinking of buying a HD5850 and thought ok I'll wait for the 6850 since it's due out. Unless you knew anything about it, you would be pretty well pee'd off since the 5850 would have been better.

It looks like to me they've screwed up a bloody good system which is the first time the ATi part of AMD have done anything wrong over the last 3 years.

I hope the AMD CPU failures aren't rubbing off on the GPU side.
Xir 14th October 2010, 16:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77

AMD could name their new cards Kitty 100, Kitty 200 and Kitty 300 and it wouldn't change any of the really interesting questions.

You're absolutely right...
as long as the next generation are
Kitty-2 100, Kitty-2 200 and Kitty-2 300
or
Kitty 1100, Kitty 1200 and Kitty 1300
or
Kitty 101, Kitty 201 and Kitty 301

I'd like a logic succession :D

remember? the 9800 was followed by the x800 (read the x as 10 and...9800 -> 10800 Hey!)
Off course by the next change everything was awry again:
7000->8000->9800->X800->X1800
read
7000->8000->9800->10800->101800 Bwlech
HourBeforeDawn 14th October 2010, 20:23 Quote
okay I get the need for the name change, it actually does make since but it sure will throw people off on this generation compared to last but will be fine once the 7 series role out. Still trying to figure out which model compares to which previous but ehh Im sure it will make a bit more since in the coming weeks.
Eiffie 14th October 2010, 20:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Yoy0YO
What happened to the Adam West cooler? I'm sad to see it go :(

ME TOO! It was a neat design and it was surprisingly effective at keeping the GPU cool and quiet.(My case also has solid air-flow so that definitely helps keep the heat down.) I'm gonna hold onto my stock 5870 for a while I'm thinking, even if the new 6k series can give me some extra frame-rate in games the 5870 plays just about everything worth playing at 1080p and my FPS stays well above 60. Money spent on a new graphics card would be a waste for me right now. I'll have to wait for the full reviews with the latest drivers of course until I make my final decision but as long as my 5870 keeps pumping out good graphics I might just have to skip over the 6k series.

I am looking forward to seeing how the low and mid-range 6k GPU's turn out, I'm pondering building a small but kick-ass media center PC that can handle some light gaming and while there are a number of great cards out now that would fill that slot in a small build like that, I hope ATI will have a gem or two within it's new line-up of cards.
HourBeforeDawn 14th October 2010, 23:19 Quote
Well new generation new cooler, its all about branding but yes I will miss the batman cooler too
thehippoz 15th October 2010, 00:41 Quote
check out the heaven benchmark though.. if this is true were talking a nice leap

http://www.guru3d.com/fullimage.php?image=25968

here's my gtx460 with a 1080p res, same settings.. the thing with 3dmark is it averages the cpu score and physx into the final score.. so the benchmark is skewed unless it's done on the same hardware

that's what I like about heaven benchmark- the minimum fps look really high on these cards if the numbers are real

would rather have had a screen than html.. harder to fake

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9076/00000t.jpg
brave758 15th October 2010, 09:04 Quote
LOL who cares about the name, only the price and performance matter. They could call it turd 1 as far as I'm concerned
ulfar 15th October 2010, 10:07 Quote
i wonder how the new mid range cards will compare to the old ones. let's say kitty-300 is the new badass, and let's say that it's 15% better than the previous badass. will kitty-200 also boast a 15% performance boost compared to it's predecessor?
samuelmorris 16th October 2010, 05:51 Quote
Poor effort, I thought that the HD6900 series being the high-end single (6990 excluding) was common knowledge...
Cyberpower-UK 18th October 2010, 11:49 Quote
I got sent this the other day, not 100% sure it's true, any one care to clarify? http://www.techtree.com/India/News/ATI_6870_6850_Slated_for_Oct_22_Cayman_in_Nov/551-113155-581.html
azrael- 18th October 2010, 12:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cyberpower-UK
I got sent this the other day, not 100% sure it's true, any one care to clarify? http://www.techtree.com/India/News/ATI_6870_6850_Slated_for_Oct_22_Cayman_in_Nov/551-113155-581.html
Depends. Nothing will really be clear until the cards are actually out in the open.

It's common "knowledge" (read: qualified guesswork) however, that the 68xx series is a replacement for the 57xx series. If this is true, then the statement is false, since the 68xx series *appears* to be so much faster than the 57xx series.
impar 18th October 2010, 12:37 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by azrael-
It's common "knowledge" (read: qualified guesswork) however, that the 68xx series is a replacement for the 57xx series. If this is true, then the statement is false, since the 68xx series *appears* to be so much faster than the 57xx series.
Yep. The replacement for the 5800s are the 6900s.
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