Samsung announces 1ms monitor
The Samsung P2770FH 27in 1080p panel features a ridiculous 1ms response time.
The display is described by Young Bae, Samsung's director of display marketing, as "a prime example of Samsung's leadership in display engineering, and creative professionals and computer gamers seeking the best possible viewing experience will immediately appreciate its benefits."
The biggest benefit that Samsung is hoping you'll appreciate is, of course, that response time. At 1ms, it's around half that of its the nearest competitor, and Samsung claims that it will pretty much completely eliminate motion blur and ghosting effects that can appear as a result of rapid motion on LCD panels.
Strangely, Samsung even goes so far as to claim that the reduced response time "contributes to smoother video playback, making it ideal for reviewing family movies or compiling the latest vacation memories."
Aside from the refresh rate, the 1920 x 1080 27in panel also features a 70,000:1 contrast ratio - dynamic, naturally - and what Samsung claims is an improved colour gamut over previous monitors in the company's range. HDMI, DVI-I, and analogue VGA connections are also included, as is analogue and optical digital audio outputs for transferring HDMI audio to an external amplifier.
For a monitor that Samsung is clearly aiming at the premium end of the market, the stand is a bit of an oddity: described by the company as "a refined, simple stand," it features no real adjustment whatsoever - and you can forget about the landscape-to-portrait rotation that many top-end monitors feature.
Samsung has yet to confirm UK pricing and availability, but the P2770FH will be launching in the US this month for $400 (around £252.)
Do you believe Samsung's claims with regard to the refresh rate, or is the difference between a 2ms display and a 1ms display just too tiny to care about? Share your thoughts over in the forums.
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Discuss in the forums ReplyThink about it - a response time of 0.001 seconds versus 0.002 seconds. It's pointless.
Also Viewsonic beat them to it
Will it shatter the image ghosting barrier in 3d?
+1 :(
Im assuming its because a crt is a raster scanning device ?
Still waiting for the day when we have a thin tft screen with the spec of a crt, i know its getting close, but were deffo not there yet.
I assume theres many gamers on here that still swear by a crt?
i'll take IPS over TN any day, even if it's 1ms vs 10ms advertised speed.
you don't get it.. crt not only lag free it can display 120fps while it's at it- the new generation have no clue and they get tossed like a salad against a good player on a crt
Apple 27 inch?
and may be Hazro HZ27Wa?
I miss having a crt... such quality images. Too bad the "good" monitors we have these days just can't compare.
Well I do, just because I've concentrated on the internal upgrades and the budget meant I wasn't gaming over 12 x 10 for a long time. So my first flatscreen wouldn't be for gaming, more just the web and general windows if I could get a good deal.
You read me right, ZERO ms!
Marketing win = consumer loss all around.
CRT's take up far too much space (my old 17" had an enormous arse on it) and they flicker causing eye strain. I'll take an LCD screen any day.
Back on topic..m'eh. I'd be more interested in progress in 120Hz screens.
Also when you guys at CustomPC/Bit-tech gonna review some new monitors? The ones in your CPC Elite section have been there for agessss.
Fixed
Grey to grey is actually the slower transition, I think. It requires a lower voltage, so the time to complete the transition tends to be longer.
If you were as hardcore as we are you would cry as well
I had 21' CRTs from the first time they were available, I do NOT miss lugging around a 70 lbs monitor. Yes they were better in one area, but vastly inferior in every other.
Enjoy,
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Ive got a dell 24017 thingl, its ok as i dont game much now, new i would mature one day, oh well.
So yep i very much get it and agree with it as i said in first post,
I do hold hopoe for the future though, hopefully monitors wont become more profit orientated as things do go these days, and manufacturers start giving us what we want, not what they think we want.
No one moaned how heavy a crt is until tft came along,,,
Man up, build your musscles, a crt is light compared to what i used to lift at work.
My pc case is heavier than 70lbs
sounds like my old case- not 70 lbs but it's pretty damn heavy.. if your going to complain about weight- you shouldn't even be going to lans xD
:o just pullin your chain star.. with the way gaming is going anyhow, you won't need quick reflexes.. you'll press a button every now and then and it will inflate your balls and tell your the greatest
We're talking about a 400$ monitor here.
Comparisons with
>1000$ monitors are unsuited
I can't even spot motion blur or lagging on my five year old TFT.
Plus, for a screen that size, the resolution is pants.
the Hazro one should be pretty cheap, around £600 to £700. since it'll only have displayport, and no OSD.
but yeah, you won't get any IPS panel for less than 500 USD.
Just so you know, at 60Hz each frame is displayed for 16.7ms... I think a little bit of perspective might help weed out marketing schemes. Anything <10ms is a short time, and ghosting should not be an issue if your pixels can equalize in less time than your refresh rate...
I don't get tearing in games, just enable vsynch and it's a whole world of gaming awesomeness.
And I certainly don't miss lugging around my huge old CRT
I was being sarcastic based on their marketing slogans. I can't imagine anyone noticing the difference between 2MS and 1MS in gaming, let alone while watching or compiling "home video".
when gaming, my TN 24inch is fine. but when watching films, where i use my armchair, the viewing angle is way off centre, so a wide vertical viewing angle is needed.
or, if you want to show people stuff, with TN, even 2 people viewing will be a problem.
And I don't know about you, but I haven't got any problem what so ever showing people stuff on my screen. You guys must have the most crappy panelse ever produced O.o
jeez this is stupid, no ones going to notice any difference, hell its debatable if you could really notice any difference below 0.010, the human eye is by no means perfect, its has limitations.
just a silly marketing ploy, manufacturers are desperate to make their products look better than their competitors, so they quote specs like these to fool the people who don't know better.
My only point is that there is a tendency in these forums to say: "yes but Produkt XX is much better (at 3-4 times the price)" when it comes to monitors.
I miss al low-cost monitor shootout :D
OT: is Hazro even sold in europe? :?
+2
not sure, it's featured on tftcentral.co.uk, so i guess it's being sold in UK.
I was very hardcore played Counter strike tournaments for years (was good enough to play the likes of team 3d but never beat them). for a long time I argued that flat screens weren't as good, and I think back circa 2004ish they weren't. However once they came out with dvi and hdmi connections they started pulling ahead. As someone who is still a hardcore FPS player I would personally rather play on a modern large flat screen at HD rez then a top of the line CRT as lugging around a 23 inch crt would be beyond practical.
I think the the ghosting issue is moot on modern good quality monitors human reaction time is 15ms I can't say that 1-2ms is the difference between me winning and losing when strategy, a good mouse and keyboard will go much further.
Also with a high resolution monitor with a digital connection I'll often stand very far back and be able to pick up movement I would miss on a smaller or non digital CRT
I wouldn't go back to my 20 inch crt's from my 23 inch flat screen. even tho the contrast was better.
ha, I see what you did there...
Get it sent home and send over full screen black, white, etc.
You'll notice dead pixels immediately and can send it back with NO REASON AT ALL.
(As "dead" or "stuck" pixels are no valid reason for RMAing)
Try doing that in a shop :D
I don't feel the need to defend technology that works, and as for flicker, that's what 100Hz in Windows XP is for...for some reason you needed to faff about in Vista and 7 to force the mode to appear.
I know what will happen, they'll solve all the tech issues with current TFTs then we'll get the OLED and SED monitors out as the next big thing with their own brand new set of problems, it's the old tech merry-go-round...