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Rumour: Android 3.0 to target tablets

Rumour: Android 3.0 to target tablets

Rumours suggest Android 3.0 has an aggressive minimum hardware spec

New rumours have emerged about Google's next major revision to its Android mobile operating system - 3.0, codenamed Gingerbread.

First reported in a Russian podcast by blogger Eldar Murtazin, the widely re-reported rumours suggest that Gingerbread will become available this October, with the first compatible handsets being shipped before Christmas.

According to Murtazin, Android 3.0 will require at least a 1GHz CPU and 512MB of RAM, and will support a screen resolution of 1,280 x 760 for devices with viewable displays measuring 4 inches or more. These high minimum specs and larger screen support strongly suggest that Android isn't just targeting phones, but tablet devices as well.

It's not that surprising, given that current high-end smartphones already have 1GHz CPUs and 512MB RAM, and that firms such as MSI have been talking about Android tablets for some time.

More controversially, Google is revamping its user interface with 3.0, which would likely reduce the need for third-party UI customisations such as HTC's Sense and Motorola's MotoBlur.

It was also suggested that Android 3.0 will not be a direct replacement for versions 2.1 or 2.2, and that Google will continue to support these versions on lower-end devices - much like Android 1.6 is still used on cheaper smartphones today, with 2.1 on premium models.

There's been no official confirmation from Google on these details, and of course, many manufacturers - and networks - have yet to push upgrades to 2.2 live. Harry is still livid that his Hero is stuck on 1.6 until Orange sorts out the upgrade. Are you excited by the possibility of running Android on a tablet PC? Do you think Android 3.0 will enable Google to launch a serious competitor to the iPad? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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proxess 1st July 2010, 14:52 Quote
My Samsung Galaxy Spica i5700 is still stuck on 2.1 :(

Judging from Samsung's infamous support, it'll be like that forever.
SteveU 1st July 2010, 14:55 Quote
I'm confused, aren't google meant to be developing Chrome OS to run on tablets too?

I've heard of competing with the opposition but not with yourself!?!?!?!?
Stotherd-001 1st July 2010, 14:57 Quote
Harry, hero's stuck on 1.5. Sorry. But that's what my orange hero is on. 1.6 has the nicer looking market. 2.1 should be soon though.The rumoured timelines are getting shorter. I'm guessing august at this rate...

Android already was a serious advantage over the ipad with divx support, flash support, and unrestricted apps. HD support will just make it much more interesting. Hoping the Samsung tablet gets it, should be very pretty.

I wouldn't mind better native interface, I do like HTC Sense so I hope they base it on that.

October... approximate timing for the ipad iOS4 update? Considering the timing of 2.2... thats no coincidence.
flibblesan 1st July 2010, 15:55 Quote
Orange Hero users can just use the update provided directly by HTC. You'll lose Orange customisations though.
memeroot 1st July 2010, 16:21 Quote
when is the 2.1 release due for hero?
Jack_Pepsi 1st July 2010, 16:51 Quote
After all the hype at work regarding the iPhone 4 (and multiple colleagues having them) I've been looking at Android powered phones. I'm definitely going to invest in one, obviously one that supports Gingerbread. I'm messin' about with the (Froyo) SDK and I can't wait to get my hands on one, it'll be my first Smartphone.

To all Android users, what are your impressions so far?
barndoor101 1st July 2010, 16:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Orange Hero users can just use the update provided directly by HTC. You'll lose Orange customisations though.

thats a massive loss. what would you do without all the crap orange put on?
Sifter3000 1st July 2010, 17:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Orange Hero users can just use the update provided directly by HTC. You'll lose Orange customisations though.

We're currently debating this in the office - Harry seems convinced the update, even from HTC, is OTE only - meaning you have to wait. Are you talking about jailbreaking the phone then?
okenobi 1st July 2010, 18:21 Quote
You ask about what an iPhone review should look like.....

Well, Android is a point of interest and more coverage like this is a good thing in my book. Very interested to see how Android develops.
azrael- 1st July 2010, 18:37 Quote
Have to admit I'm most of all looking forward to a worthy successor to Nokia's N900 running MeeGo. Why? Because MeeGo supports Qt and Qt is pretty darn good for developing applications. Which I intend to do. :)

Also, as was previously said, wasn't ChromeOS targeted toward netbooks and -tablets?
okenobi 1st July 2010, 18:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
We're currently debating this in the office - Harry seems convinced the update, even from HTC, is OTE only - meaning you have to wait. Are you talking about jailbreaking the phone then?

I've been chatting this over with manufacturer helplines lately and they all said "depends on the network". Then I walked into an Orange shop yesterday and he told me, HTC do all the OTA updates and it had nothing to do with the network.

The whole thing's a mess and that's why they can't beat Jobs (yet). 3.0 is THE one to watch...
sheninat0r 1st July 2010, 18:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Orange Hero users can just use the update provided directly by HTC. You'll lose Orange customisations though.

We're currently debating this in the office - Harry seems convinced the update, even from HTC, is OTE only - meaning you have to wait. Are you talking about jailbreaking the phone then?

There's clean dumps (about 40 of them...) of the ROM over on xda-developers, but I guess it counts as "jailbreaking" (we like to say rooting, us Android kiddies) to install a custom recovery image to flash it. If you did that, then why even bother sticking with a stock ROM? There is actually quite a bit of choice for the Hero in terms of custom ROMs.

In addition, if you're scared of voiding the warranty, you can run HTC's official update .exe files to restore every part of your phone to stock, including the custom recovery you need to flash custom ROMs. The only problem with that is that you might flash a newer bootloader and make your phone forever un-rootable.
Hamish 1st July 2010, 20:00 Quote
depends how you define 'tablet'
the HD2 and Droid X both have >4" screens, 512mb ram and 1ghz snapdragon cpus, are they tablets or phones?
i would say phones

im hoping we see 4" 720p dualcore snapdragon phones in 2011, that would make me happy in the pants ¬_¬

edit: and yeah harry should definitely root and put a custom rom on his hero, forget waiting for HTC (or worse, your mobile provider) to pull their finger out and release an official update
HourBeforeDawn 1st July 2010, 20:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hamish
depends how you define 'tablet'
the HD2 and Droid X both have >4" screens, 512mb ram and 1ghz snapdragon cpus, are they tablets or phones?
i would say phones

I would say a tablet would be around 8-12" in screen size to qualify.
Sifter3000 1st July 2010, 20:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
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Originally Posted by Hamish
depends how you define 'tablet'
the HD2 and Droid X both have >4" screens, 512mb ram and 1ghz snapdragon cpus, are they tablets or phones?
i would say phones

I would say a tablet would be around 8-12" in screen size to qualify.

It's an interesting question, as Dell have the Streak - a 5in Android thing which they call a tablet.
l3v1ck 1st July 2010, 22:28 Quote
I don't see the problem with reducing 3rd party UI customisations.
My HTC Desire seems to have two options (one HTC and one Android) for a lot of things. It's just not necessary.
Farting Bob 1st July 2010, 23:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
depends how you define 'tablet'
the HD2 and Droid X both have >4" screens, 512mb ram and 1ghz snapdragon cpus, are they tablets or phones?
i would say phones

I would say a tablet would be around 8-12" in screen size to qualify.
Can it phone people over the usual networks? If yes then its a phone. If no its a tablet. So far at least i havent seen any tablets that also try to be a phone.
ShaqArif 2nd July 2010, 11:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by okenobi
I've been chatting this over with manufacturer helplines lately and they all said "depends on the network". Then I walked into an Orange shop yesterday and he told me, HTC do all the OTA updates and it had nothing to do with the network.

The whole thing's a mess and that's why they can't beat Jobs (yet). 3.0 is THE one to watch...

It is a mess, and it doesn't help that the shop staff/helpdesks at Orange and 3 haven't got a clue - what you were told is totally wrong!

There are many frustrated users over at androidforums getting very annoyed over this. Essentially, if you have an unbranded phone (i.e. not tied in to any particular network), then you can update now, but Orange and 3 network customers have to wait a while until their networks release the update after testing. For 3, this is likely to be in the next couple of weeks:

(from androidforums)
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Basically the rep told me they had recieved the software from HTC and were in the midst of testing, and although they did not have an official date for release, they reckoned it would be within the next 2 weeks.

He did say the release would likely be notified either on their website or by a text message, this hadnt been decided.
leexgx 2nd July 2010, 13:15 Quote
the htc site norm does not work for network sold phones as the sn number is black listed to prevent up date norm you have to update from network operaters site or on the phone, rooting is norm the only way if in mobile op will not provide the update
UncertainGod 2nd July 2010, 13:30 Quote
Well the standard Android UI could do with a overhaul and Android was always heading the tablet way so no major surprises.
Jack_Pepsi 2nd July 2010, 14:26 Quote
Apparently it's the recommended specification for Gingerbread.
SteveU 2nd July 2010, 14:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Farting Bob
Can it phone people over the usual networks? If yes then its a phone. If no its a tablet. So far at least i havent seen any tablets that also try to be a phone.

You have now, I give you the Dell Streak, a 5" tablet that also tries to be a phone. Lets face it though, no-one is going to carry a 5" tablet around in their pocket as their primary phone are they? or are they?
Bakes 2nd July 2010, 14:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
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Originally Posted by flibblesan
Orange Hero users can just use the update provided directly by HTC. You'll lose Orange customisations though.

We're currently debating this in the office - Harry seems convinced the update, even from HTC, is OTE only - meaning you have to wait. Are you talking about jailbreaking the phone then?

Please research 'chrooting' (ie jailing) and user access privileges, with potential privilege escalation. One is used mainly by Apple and the other is used mainly by other devices such as Android phones - they're two very different processes. Whilst they might have similar effects, it's wrong to assume that they are the same or refer to them as such, especially since the uses are much different - Jailbreaking tends to be about getting applications that you haven't paid for, and implies that you're doing something wrong (jail), whilst Rooting is much more benign and is usually about task killers, optimizations, overclocking and other legitimate functions - you can pirate applications easily without rooting an Android device.

(disclaimer - I'm not implying that everyone who's jailbroken an iPhone is a pirate, just that many people do jailbreak simply to pirate applications).
PyrO_PrOfessOr 2nd July 2010, 15:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jack_Pepsi


To all Android users, what are your impressions so far?

I have an HTC Desire and I adore it. Its so fast, and slated for a 2.2 update later on this year which will bring features like Installing apps to the SD card and additional speed upgrades.

The android market is also excellent, although you sometimes need to sift through the crap to get to what you what but the seach function is effective and effecient. You can also toggle the installation of 3rd party apps from developers, such as those that haunt xda-developers etc.

I'd totally recommend one!
Jack_Pepsi 2nd July 2010, 18:22 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrO_PrOfessOr
I have an HTC Desire and I adore it. Its so fast, and slated for a 2.2 update later on this year which will bring features like Installing apps to the SD card and additional speed upgrades.

The android market is also excellent, although you sometimes need to sift through the crap to get to what you what but the seach function is effective and effecient. You can also toggle the installation of 3rd party apps from developers, such as those that haunt xda-developers etc.

I'd totally recommend one!

+rep for your opinions. I've been thinking so much about Android now that I'm actually having dreams about Smartphones.

I'm holding out until the Droid X (or better) hit ol' Blighty.
Hamish 2nd July 2010, 18:39 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrO_PrOfessOr
I have an HTC Desire and I adore it. Its so fast, and slated for a 2.2 update later on this year which will bring features like Installing apps to the SD card and additional speed upgrades.

The android market is also excellent, although you sometimes need to sift through the crap to get to what you what but the seach function is effective and effecient. You can also toggle the installation of 3rd party apps from developers, such as those that haunt xda-developers etc.

I'd totally recommend one!
rooted my Desire and installed a vanilla froyo rom this week
well worth it imo, dont really miss anything from sense aside from the camera app because the native android one is a bit **** imo
froyo is awesome though

one of my favourite features (beyond a2sd and awesome speed :p) is chrome2phone
http://andranon.com/tag/chrome2phone/
this is great, puts a little button next to my firefox address bar i can hit to send links straight to phone
Skiddywinks 4th July 2010, 15:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jack_Pepsi


+rep for your opinions. I've been thinking so much about Android now that I'm actually having dreams about Smartphones.

I'm holding out until the Droid X (or better) hit ol' Blighty.

I can't remember the name of it, but a QWERTY Android smartphone is on the way, which looks to be equal to or better than every other smartphone ut there, at least in terms of hardware.

For the life of me, I can't remember the name though...

EDIT: It will also have 4G.
Bakes 4th July 2010, 16:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I can't remember the name of it, but a QWERTY Android smartphone is on the way, which looks to be equal to or better than every other smartphone ut there, at least in terms of hardware.

For the life of me, I can't remember the name though...

EDIT: It will also have 4G.

4G is totally pointless at the moment, purely because there isn't any specification that is defined to be 4G. There are competing specifications such as WiMax (branded as 4G by Sprint), LTE, UDB and Flash-OFBM, which are all trying to be given the 4G label.

Because of this, buying a phone because it's '4G' is stupid, firstly because it isn't 4G in a way that's recognised (merely 4G in marketing crap), and also because there are no WiMax networks of any consequence in the UK. WiMax battery life is rubbish at the moment, it's only available in certain US cities, and most experts have agreed that LTE is more likely to be come the true 4G.

So yah.

If you don't want a useless technology on your phone, there are already several models available to you, especially the Motorola Droid/Milestone and possibly the Droid 2 when it's released.
Skiddywinks 4th July 2010, 21:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bakes
4G is totally pointless at the moment, purely because there isn't any specification that is defined to be 4G. There are competing specifications such as WiMax (branded as 4G by Sprint), LTE, UDB and Flash-OFBM, which are all trying to be given the 4G label.

Because of this, buying a phone because it's '4G' is stupid, firstly because it isn't 4G in a way that's recognised (merely 4G in marketing crap), and also because there are no WiMax networks of any consequence in the UK. WiMax battery life is rubbish at the moment, it's only available in certain US cities, and most experts have agreed that LTE is more likely to be come the true 4G.

So yah.

If you don't want a useless technology on your phone, there are already several models available to you, especially the Motorola Droid/Milestone and possibly the Droid 2 when it's released.

Considering I had to edit that particular feature in to the comment since it was hardly the first thing on my mind, I really do not care about it all that much. It just can't hurt to have the choice though, right?

It is mainly the mixture of Android 3.0, full QWERTY keyboard, and the high specs that I care about.

Thanks for the history of 4G though -_-
Edge102030 4th July 2010, 23:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrO_PrOfessOr
I have an HTC Desire and I adore it. Its so fast, and slated for a 2.2 update later on this year which will bring features like Installing apps to the SD card and additional speed upgrades.

The android market is also excellent, although you sometimes need to sift through the crap to get to what you what but the seach function is effective and effecient. You can also toggle the installation of 3rd party apps from developers, such as those that haunt xda-developers etc.

I'd totally recommend one!

QFT, i have an htc desire and it is ****ing sweet.
Bakes 5th July 2010, 01:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
Considering I had to edit that particular feature in to the comment since it was hardly the first thing on my mind, I really do not care about it all that much. It just can't hurt to have the choice though, right?

It is mainly the mixture of Android 3.0, full QWERTY keyboard, and the high specs that I care about.

Thanks for the history of 4G though -_-

Motorola Droid?
Jack_Pepsi 5th July 2010, 12:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddywinks
I can't remember the name of it, but a QWERTY Android smartphone is on the way, which looks to be equal to or better than every other smartphone ut there, at least in terms of hardware.

For the life of me, I can't remember the name though...

EDIT: It will also have 4G.

Could it be the upcoming HTC Vision?
fabler 6th July 2010, 06:41 Quote
I am really glad to have a nexus one. It got the froyo update first and will get gingerbread first.. :D :D :D
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