bit-tech.net

Nvidia GeForce GTX 465 already available to buy

Nvidia GeForce GTX 465 already available to buy

Newegg already has GeForce GTX 465s available to buy at $280.

US retalier Newegg has already listed the GeForce GTX 465 for sale, ahead of its expected Computex launch. The site is listing a retail price of $279.99 for every single card. The listings also confirm the specs we showed earlier, which include 352 stream processors running at 1,215MHz with a core clock of 607MHz and 1GB of GDDR5 on a 256-bit bus.

Despite all sticking to the regimented clock speeds and prices, from the images on the site the cards don't appear to all use the same cooler with different stickers - instead we see there are several different cooler designs being used from the outset.

With the Radeon HD 5850 costing only $10-$30 more from the same retailer, it's clear which ATI card Nvidia's new product will need to beat. Does a GeForce GTX 465 1GB at $279.99 tempt you? If so, let us know, in the forums.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 465 already available to buy

71 Comments

Discuss in the forums Reply
barndoor101 31st May 2010, 02:46 Quote
looks like another card full of fail from nvidia.

if this thing beats a HD5830 id be shocked, considering how overpriced that card is.
mycopia 31st May 2010, 02:53 Quote
nice to see you guys on the ball so late !

+1 :-)
ssj12 31st May 2010, 06:27 Quote
If they plan on making a GTX490 with two of these, it might be a pretty powerful little GPU if clocked right and has like 2.5GBs of ram.
The_Beast 31st May 2010, 07:16 Quote
Looks like a GTX 270, oh wait it is :)
lp1988 31st May 2010, 07:32 Quote
If this one is as successful as the rest of the series it will manage just fine,

To make the AIT cards look like a great bargain that is.
V3ctor 31st May 2010, 09:57 Quote
Fail... Already saw 2 reviews and that thing is way expensive, sometimes a GTX275 is faster than it, and the HD5850 obliterates her (i'm watching for price, not the intended place in the market against the HD5830).

Again another expensive card, way out of reality, better open your eyes nVidia...

Oh, saw a third review, but I don't take it seriously when they ALWAYS talk good of a green card... I think they are optimistic...
Elton 31st May 2010, 10:25 Quote
I'll wait until BT reviews this.

But at that price, it's bound to lose, if it was say, priced lower @ about $229, or even dare I say $209, then this card might have done qutie a bit damage.

Although Overclocking it, may perhaps make it a better value card.

Still, I can't see why they decided to price it so close to the HD5850, drop it down $20-$40 and then perhaps get start shipping it out with a BIOS with higher clocks, and you'll have a more impressive card.
Denis_iii 31st May 2010, 10:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by lp1988
If this one is as successful as the rest of the series it will manage just fine,

To make the AIT cards look like a great bargain that is.

SNAP! :)
wuyanxu 31st May 2010, 10:50 Quote
saw Hexus review, it's okay. a bit cheaper than 5850, and performance is about right in 3 of the Dx11 titles.

it's like the 470, performance+feature for price is pretty good, considering you won't need to buy a second nVidia card for PhysX and CUDA
rollo 31st May 2010, 11:04 Quote
Depends if you value physics and cuda, the advantage of all the ati cards is they will all run on a 500 watt psu (5970 excluded oc ) all the nvidia cards are in the 600 watt area and to most that's a new psu

Not to mension heat and performance issues

4870 in crossfire still blows away most avail cards and costs half of what they are

4890 still out performs 5830 and 465 and is at best 5 fps behind the 5850

Bit techs own review showed this
Pete J 31st May 2010, 12:19 Quote
On it's own, the 465 sucks, no doubt about that. But:

The cards seems to have massive overclocking potential (we're talking somewhere in the region of a 25% perfomance increase ) and performs well in SLI. Having said that, it costs the same as a 5850, which is a bit silly. Put the cost down to £200 and you have a serious contender.
[USRF]Obiwan 31st May 2010, 12:38 Quote
It's placed to high in the price range if it wants to compete with the 5850. But hell where else do you get CUDA if you need that for Video editing or audio plugs, to be honest ATI just totally sucks in that department. So all you have is a expensive ATI game-card.
Aragon Speed 31st May 2010, 13:09 Quote
That is because the current crop of programs cater to CUDA as that was the only standard at the time they were written. Once they start to code them for Direct Compute so both sets of cards can use it, then that particular advantage will be lost by Nvidia.

I'm not saying that the ATI cards will be better than the Nvid ones, or that the Nvid ones will still be better than the ATI cards. All I am saying is that Nvids current strangle hold with CUDA is not going to last.

And the extra wedge of cash for Physx is not worth it to me, it brings minimal advantages to a game compared to one that does not use it, and CUDA is wasted silicone as far as I am concerned as I have no interest in folding.
Cepheus 31st May 2010, 13:14 Quote
Ugh. Speed of 5830 and price of 5850.

Another nVidia card that's not worth buying.
barndoor101 31st May 2010, 14:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete J
On it's own, the 465 sucks, no doubt about that. But:

The cards seems to have massive overclocking potential (we're talking somewhere in the region of a 25% perfomance increase ) and performs well in SLI. Having said that, it costs the same as a 5850, which is a bit silly. Put the cost down to £200 and you have a serious contender.

FYI apparently the catalyst 10.5 update makes a massive improvement to crossfire performance - so saying 2 GTX265s will own in SLI is irrelevant when 2 HD5830s will perform the same for less money,
Glix 31st May 2010, 14:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]It's placed to high in the price range if it wants to compete with the 5850. But hell where else do you get CUDA if you need that for Video editing or audio plugs, to be honest ATI just totally sucks in that department. So all you have is a expensive ATI game-card.

And Nvidia sucks in the multimedia department (no support for DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD bitstreams) so....
Xonar 31st May 2010, 14:35 Quote
Heard people are flashing the GTX 465's with 470 BIOS's in order to unlock the additional cores as they use exactly the same PCB.

Might tempt a few people to give it a go similar to unlocking cores on AMD CPU's but it's a lot of money to spend for just an off chance that your extra cores aren't damaged. I'd personally still go with a 5850 if I had the choice.
Redbeaver 31st May 2010, 14:45 Quote
oh wow, some 470 probably abit pissed right now... bad nvidia.

that being said, being a loyal fanboi as i am, this might b a solution for a Dx11 card that is slightly more affordable for me...

and to one of the post above... speed of 5830? seriously?

ps: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-465-sli-review/
not too shabby....
pps: yes, theyr flashing the bios up in guru3d... but in all honesty, u can spend ~20$ more and get a guaranteed 470. so why bother really.

redbeaver's summary: this product will fly if its between $200-$230. i reckon by around xmas time.
[USRF]Obiwan 31st May 2010, 15:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glix
Quote:
Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]It's placed to high in the price range if it wants to compete with the 5850. But hell where else do you get CUDA if you need that for Video editing or audio plugs, to be honest ATI just totally sucks in that department. So all you have is a expensive ATI game-card.

And Nvidia sucks in the multimedia department (no support for DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD bitstreams) so....

I was not bashing ATI. I am not a fan boy, I buy the stuff that do the job for me for a good price with as much options as logically possible. The Nvidia is overpriced but has cuda, which I need for rendering. The Ati is cheap, faster, less power hungry (not to mention less heat) but lacks support for rendering in the software I use and the lack of that must be compensated with more processor power. Both are expensive that way.

If I would only play games, my choice would be a Ati 5870 anyway. I sincerely hope software vendors are converting CUDA to a more general support (read OpenCL) for GPU calculations. If it was available right now. Nobody would have even touched Nvidia cards, which ofcourse forces extreme price drops of Nvidia 400 series to compete. Ati has a incredible position, I just wished they pushed GPU calculations more to software more to make it really dominate Nvidia.

I do not care much about DTS-HD/trueHD support, not seen a game with trueHD or DTS-HD. And most motherboards have digital out although not DTS-HD/trueHD. For media playback I use a HTCP (with ati card btw) or a xtreamer/playon etc.
Glix 31st May 2010, 16:26 Quote
Obiwan, that's what I am saying, Nvidia have missed the boat by over looking something soo simple. most people buy a low end card for media pc's or even semi decent gaming cards so they can enjoy some games too as well as watch Blu Ray media.
Hustler 31st May 2010, 18:46 Quote
Haha...BitTech are going to give this card a tough time when they review it.....

My prediction:

performance 5 (Sometimes better than a 5830, sometimes not)

Features 8 (virtue of Cuda and PhysX)

Value 4 (£250 for 5830 performance.....please give me a break)

Overall 5
Cepheus 31st May 2010, 20:32 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeaver
oh wow, some 470 probably abit pissed right now... bad nvidia.

that being said, being a loyal fanboi as i am, this might b a solution for a Dx11 card that is slightly more affordable for me...

and to one of the post above... speed of 5830? seriously?

ps: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-465-sli-review/
not too shabby....
pps: yes, theyr flashing the bios up in guru3d... but in all honesty, u can spend ~20$ more and get a guaranteed 470. so why bother really.

redbeaver's summary: this product will fly if its between $200-$230. i reckon by around xmas time.

Yes, it's closest to the speed of the 5830. Depending on what game you use, the closest ATI card to the 465 is the 5830. The only game in which the 465 beats the 5850 in the review you quoted is Far Cry 2, an nVidia biased benchmark.

You can either say it's faster than the 5830 or slower than the 5850. If it pleases you, it gets beaten by the 5850 that costs the same price, making it a pointless purchase.

If you want an affordable DX11 card, the card you want is the 5850. It's roughly the same price and is faster.

It would sell well if it was between $200 and $230. Unfortunately, it's actually between $280 and $290. By christmas, the ATI 6k series will likely have been released.

This card truly is merely a way for nVidia to channel out broken cores. It's not worth buying for most, particularly since the 5850 is the same price, and better.
willyolio 31st May 2010, 20:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeaver
and to one of the post above... speed of 5830? seriously?

ps: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-465-sli-review/
thanks for the link. Seriously.
Star*Dagger 31st May 2010, 21:38 Quote
Do serious gamers even consider nVidia for their GPUS? No one that I know does.

S*D
Teelzebub 31st May 2010, 21:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
Do serious gamers even consider nVidia for their GPUS? No one that I know does.

S*D

Maybe you should get to know some more people then.
Ph4ZeD 31st May 2010, 22:12 Quote
What, the kind of people who like buying overpriced, inefficient and poorly designed pieces of hardware?
Ph4ZeD 31st May 2010, 22:21 Quote
$280 = £192.59

£192.59 + VAT (17.5%) = £192.59 + £33.70 = £226.29

A 5830 will cost you £163.99 at http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-238-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1711

What a joke.
Star*Dagger 31st May 2010, 22:39 Quote
scrambled post: ignore this, lol
Star*Dagger 31st May 2010, 22:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Maybe you should get to know some more people then.

I build computers for quite a few people, and consult for 5 different departments at the University. But maybe I need to know more people, lol.
The only people who look at nVidia are doing it for CUDA, not gaming. nVidia has lost every round since the (excellent) 8800gtx, next question.

S*D
andrew8200m 31st May 2010, 22:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
I build computers for quite a few people, and consult for 5 different departments at the University. But maybe I need to know more people, lol.
The only people who look at nVidia are doing it for CUDA, not gaming. nVidia has lost every round since the (excellent) 8800gtx, next question.

S*D

proper ati fan boy.., every nvidia card had been similar price and faster than ati part up until now... 4870/gtx260 216sp, 4890/gtx275, gtx280/gtx285 in a world of there own, 4870x2 beats all, gtx295 beats 4870x2...

Anyway, now the new story... Price wise 5870 is gtx470... That makes nvidia fail! Gtx480 out of 5870 league but £100 more... £60 more buys 5970... Nvidia once again fail...


The 465 even if dual format won't beat a 5970... I can see this beig yet another year where ati hold crown.



Andy
Teelzebub 31st May 2010, 22:51 Quote
Actually $280= £193.92 at a exchange rate of 0.692569 which is valid as of 31/5/2010.

But thats not the point, The point is he's yet another smart ass that thinks he knows what is and what isn't a serious gamer.

To imply that if you buy Nvidia you are not a serious gamer is just c**p.

And if you can afford to buy want you want to buy then who care's what anyone else has to say.
Teelzebub 31st May 2010, 22:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
I build computers for quite a few people, and consult for 5 different departments at the University. But maybe I need to know more people, lol.
The only people who look at nVidia are doing it for CUDA, not gaming. nVidia has lost every round since the (excellent) 8800gtx, next question.

S*D

Blah Blah Blah! :|:|:| God I would be a rich man if I had a £1 for every time I've heard that one :)
HourBeforeDawn 31st May 2010, 23:29 Quote
ya still a fail, Fermi is a flop even nVidia admitted to it being a flawed design so until I see a complete redesign I would say skip the 4 series and wait for the 5 so if you dont already have a 2 series card go with ATI then on their 5 series much better way to go all around.
Teelzebub 1st June 2010, 01:02 Quote
LOL another fanboy, I'm sure if you ask Nvidia nicely They will redesign them just for you.
V3ctor 1st June 2010, 01:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
LOL another fanboy, I'm sure if you ask Nvidia nicely They will redesign them just for you.

Stop trolling dude... Face it, nVidia lost again... Overpriced GPU's, very hot, very inneficient... U can have your oppinion... And let others have theirs.

Just see the benches/prices/temps/noise in an objective way, and you will see that AMD won this round.
One thing is for sure, the arquitecture for Fermi is unbelievable good, they just need to tweak it and put the GTX5xx series in 28nm, and I believe that nVidia will be back in the game... But ATi is on a roll with their last HD4xxx and HD5xxx series, it will be a tough call.
Teelzebub 1st June 2010, 01:26 Quote
Not trolling Dude ! Just bored with the same old rhetoric and it gets justified by the I build computers so I know line.

Would be nice to read some thing impartial for a change.

As for who won what I dont care.

Yes they are expensive and heavy on the power I can afford it.

As for temps mine never gets hotter than 73c on load even in that hot spell.

Noise no worse than my 275 with the 250 for physx was, Fan speed on the 480's set to 65%.

But they are new tech and given time will come into their own.
Pete J 1st June 2010, 01:28 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by barndoor101
FYI apparently the catalyst 10.5 update makes a massive improvement to crossfire performance - so saying 2 GTX265s will own in SLI is irrelevant when 2 HD5830s will perform the same for less money,
Nvidia's 2xx series drivers will be along soon; the beta drivers are out now but after their little fiasco with new drivers cooking cards I'm going to wait for a week or so before installing. Anyway, these drivers are supposed to significantly boost performance (they always do ;) ).
barndoor101 1st June 2010, 01:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete J
Nvidia's 2xx series drivers will be along soon; the beta drivers are out now but after their little fiasco with new drivers cooking cards I'm going to wait for a week or so before installing. Anyway, these drivers are supposed to significantly boost performance (they always do ;) ).

are these the drivers which bring 3D Vision? or am i seeing unicorns? :P
Elton 1st June 2010, 04:21 Quote
It's not an entirely bad chip, but it's still just too damn costly compared to the HD5850.
lysaer 1st June 2010, 05:58 Quote
Shame really :/ Nvidia need to lower their prices, then it would be a good competitor especially for SLI
rollo 1st June 2010, 09:19 Quote
Money no object 480 sli is tempting

Reality wise even the 5870 is outta most peoples budgets
Fire Strike 1st June 2010, 10:31 Quote
Will these card perform better that a GTX 285? If so I might have to get one or two. How about three! 3-way sli!!!
Cepheus 1st June 2010, 10:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD
$280 = £192.59

£192.59 + VAT (17.5%) = £192.59 + £33.70 = £226.29

A 5830 will cost you £163.99 at http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-238-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1711

What a joke.

It's worse than that. The GTX465 is £250 on Scan, which places it between the 5850 and the GTX470. It gets hammered by both.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Actually $280= £193.92 at a exchange rate of 0.692569 which is valid as of 31/5/2010.
Then you add VAT, as he did.
Quote:
But thats not the point, The point is he's yet another smart ass that thinks he knows what is and what isn't a serious gamer.

To imply that if you buy Nvidia you are not a serious gamer is just c**p.

And if you can afford to buy want you want to buy then who care's what anyone else has to say.

Well, his point is that across the full spectrum, you'll get more for your money with an ATI card.

5850 + £30 > GTX465
5870 > GTX470
5850 CF > GTX480 + £20
5870 CF > GTX470 sli
5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
5870 quad-fire + £400 > GTX 480 quad-sli
memeroot 1st June 2010, 11:04 Quote
from what ive read overclocked 470 tri sli is the way to go.
Teelzebub 1st June 2010, 12:12 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cepheus
It's worse than that. The GTX465 is £250 on Scan, which places it between the 5850 and the GTX470. It gets hammered by both.


Then you add VAT, as he did.



Well, his point is that across the full spectrum, you'll get more for your money with an ATI card.

5850 + £30 > GTX465
5870 > GTX470
5850 CF > GTX480 + £20
5870 CF > GTX470 sli
5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
5870 quad-fire + £400 > GTX 480 quad-sli

Didn't feel the need to add vat and if I had the end cost would have still been different because his first figures were wrong.

And the other one implied that a serious gamer would not buy a Nvidia card and not that a cost conscious buyer wouldn't buy one.
which make's your price comparison irrelevant.
[USRF]Obiwan 1st June 2010, 12:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by memeroot
from what ive read overclocked 470 tri sli is the way to go.

The way to your highest energy bill ever, that is...
Ph4ZeD 1st June 2010, 12:21 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cepheus
It's worse than that. The GTX465 is £250 on Scan, which places it between the 5850 and the GTX470. It gets hammered by both.


Then you add VAT, as he did.



Well, his point is that across the full spectrum, you'll get more for your money with an ATI card.

5850 + £30 > GTX465
5870 > GTX470
5850 CF > GTX480 + £20
5870 CF > GTX470 sli
5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
5870 quad-fire + £400 > GTX 480 quad-sli

Didn't feel the need to add vat and if I had the end cost would have still been different because his first figures were wrong.

And the other one implied that a serious gamer would not buy a Nvidia card and not that a cost conscious buyer wouldn't buy one.
which make's your price comparison irrelvant.

Bullshit much? I was £1.50 off. Oh wow. That will really change the value of the card.
Teelzebub 1st June 2010, 12:58 Quote
Well by my maths it would make it more expensive but not BS your figures was wrong "fact".

But every time there's a thread about these cards we get all these idiots with their stupid comments like could have cooked my dinner on it and the street lights dimmed and so forth.
And no serious gamer would buy one.

Its boring and adds nothing to the topic, And it seems that anyone that dont run with the rest of the sheep is in some way a retard.

Please shoot me if I every become like every one else.

I'm not going to get into a flaming match over this because its never ending
and brings down the tone of the of the forum so this is my last post on the subject.
impar 1st June 2010, 13:23 Quote
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by barndoor101
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8628/hmmmb.png

nuff said
Actually, its not "nuff said".
Those are just the purchasing costs, you still need to add the extra costs of the GTX265 over the HD5850 in energy bills.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/print/geforce-gtx-465.html
xaser04 1st June 2010, 15:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Well by my maths it would make it more expensive but not BS your figures was wrong "fact".

Where did you get your exchange rate from?

FT close for the 31/05/2010 puts the dollar at 1.4530 (or 0.6883) making a $280 card cost £192.70.

An exchange rate without context is useless as I could give you a variation of the above by the second for the 31/05/2010.

It is quite possible that both you and Ph4ZeD are correct, it its perfectly possible that you took an exchange rate from different points during the day (it moved 25 basis points between your posts for example) - looking at my live quote graphs for the 31/05/2010 this is perfectly plausible.

To state Ph4ZeD is wrong is simply incorrect.
Pete J 1st June 2010, 16:17 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cepheus

5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
If you look here you'll see that the GTX 480s in dual-SLI can significantly beat dual-Crossfire 5870s in some games. Given that ATI's scaling isn't great, it'd be safe to assume that in fact for a few games 3 5870s=2 480s.

Just saying, not trying to start a flame war :(
Teelzebub 1st June 2010, 16:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by xaser04
Where did you get your exchange rate from?

FT close for the 31/05/2010 puts the dollar at 1.4530 (or 0.6883) making a $280 card cost £192.70.

An exchange rate without context is useless as I could give you a variation of the above by the second for the 31/05/2010.

It is quite possible that both you and Ph4ZeD are correct, it its perfectly possible that you took an exchange rate from different points during the day (it moved 25 basis points between your posts for example) - looking at my live quote graphs for the 31/05/2010 this is perfectly plausible.

To state Ph4ZeD is wrong is simply incorrect.

http://www.expedia.co.uk/daily/resources/currency/default.aspx?semcid=expe.uk.001.005.03.03&kword=ZzZz.198971067.0.3348160831.to%20converter.to_converter
Ph4ZeD 1st June 2010, 17:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete J
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cepheus

5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
If you look here you'll see that the GTX 480s in dual-SLI can significantly beat dual-Crossfire 5870s in some games. Given that ATI's scaling isn't great, it'd be safe to assume that in fact for a few games 3 5870s=2 480s.

Just saying, not trying to start a flame war :(

One area where nVidia are ahead is SLI scaling, especially Fermi. I showed this when I bought your 260GTX and did my little benchmarking and I increased performance by 84% in Crysis at Very High settings.
Cepheus 1st June 2010, 17:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
And the other one implied that a serious gamer would not buy a Nvidia card and not that a cost conscious buyer wouldn't buy one.
which make's your price comparison irrelevant.

No, I'm saying that across the spectrum, the nVidia cards are not the fastest. No matter how much money you're spending, you can almost always get a faster alternative from ATI. No matter how much money you had, the faster option would be found with ATI. not the cheaper option

Thus, unless you're a complete moron who irrationally and blindly buys a single manufacturer's products (ie are a fanboy) there's no good reason to buy an nVidia card.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Well by my maths it would make it more expensive but not BS your figures was wrong "fact".

Exchange rates can change massively in short amounts of time. Saying his figures were wrong without evidence is bad practice, because at the time he checked, his figures were probably right. Also, Expedia only updates their currency information once a day, so if he used xe.com or google or whatever, he'd probably be more accurate than you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete J
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cepheus

5870 tri-fire > GTX480 sli + £60
5870 quad-fire + £60 > GTX480 tri-sli
If you look here you'll see that the GTX 480s in dual-SLI can significantly beat dual-Crossfire 5870s in some games. Given that ATI's scaling isn't great, it'd be safe to assume that in fact for a few games 3 5870s=2 480s.

Just saying, not trying to start a flame war :(

Exactly, which is why I did pit three 5870s against two 480s. Two 470s are bested by two 5870s, however.
xaser04 1st June 2010, 17:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumsrush
Quote:
Originally Posted by xaser04
Where did you get your exchange rate from?

FT close for the 31/05/2010 puts the dollar at 1.4530 (or 0.6883) making a $280 card cost £192.70.

An exchange rate without context is useless as I could give you a variation of the above by the second for the 31/05/2010.

It is quite possible that both you and Ph4ZeD are correct, it its perfectly possible that you took an exchange rate from different points during the day (it moved 25 basis points between your posts for example) - looking at my live quote graphs for the 31/05/2010 this is perfectly plausible.

To state Ph4ZeD is wrong is simply incorrect.

http://www.expedia.co.uk/daily/resources/currency/default.aspx?semcid=expe.uk.001.005.03.03&kword=ZzZz.198971067.0.3348160831.to%20converter.to_converter

Interesting, their current conversion rate is nothing like the current spot rate....

(current spot is 1.4695, source dailyfx.com - very useful).
Ph4ZeD 1st June 2010, 17:18 Quote
Cepheus - I used xe.com
trig 1st June 2010, 19:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by xbit
Anyway, if you want to buy a GeForce GTX 465 for some reason, the Zotac card will be a good choice.

lol

wow...pretty sad debut for the 465.
enciem 1st June 2010, 20:16 Quote
Aye, just saw the x-bit review too, pretty woeful. I waited for the nVidia options to come out but was sorely disappointed and went ATI again (but I still hate ATI drivers)
callumshell1 1st June 2010, 20:42 Quote
I wish Nvidia would release another super-card like the 295. This mid range stuff isn't doing it for me.
impar 1st June 2010, 20:56 Quote
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by enciem
... but I still hate ATI drivers
ATI drivers + ATI Tray Tools
Problem solved.
flipman 2nd June 2010, 02:30 Quote
Wow finaly a card that trumps the 5850 by a small margin of a few frames and now ATI will have to answer otherwise they are gona have another year behind nvidia without a GPGPU i think nvidia is sweaping the floor again sorry guys you can type what you want but if a technology like this is not up to your liking then stay with your cheap stuff and don't buy cards that is future proof.
Xonar 2nd June 2010, 03:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by flipman
Wow finaly a card that trumps the 5850...

Are we talking about the same card here? The GTX 465 can't even beat a 5830 let alone a 5850.

No idea where you're getting your information from as it's pretty unanimous amongst reviewers.
Quote:
then stay with your cheap stuff

Cheaper does not necessarily mean slower, look at the 5850 and GTX 470 for example, almost £50 price difference yet the 5850 is noticeably faster without the extra noise/heat associated with the Nvidia cards.
Fizzban 2nd June 2010, 03:16 Quote
Pity for the consumer.. Would be nice to have some serious competition for ATI so that a price war could develop. All the while Nvidia over-prices its cards, ATI's won't drop significantly either.
barndoor101 2nd June 2010, 03:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by flipman
Wow finaly a card that trumps the 5850 by a small margin of a few frames and now ATI will have to answer otherwise they are gona have another year behind nvidia without a GPGPU i think nvidia is sweaping the floor again sorry guys you can type what you want but if a technology like this is not up to your liking then stay with your cheap stuff and don't buy cards that is future proof.

obvious troll is obvious
Ph4ZeD 2nd June 2010, 19:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by flipman
Wow finaly a card that trumps the 5850 by a small margin of a few frames and now ATI will have to answer otherwise they are gona have another year behind nvidia without a GPGPU i think nvidia is sweaping the floor again sorry guys you can type what you want but if a technology like this is not up to your liking then stay with your cheap stuff and don't buy cards that is future proof.

You trolling!
enciem 2nd June 2010, 21:22 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by enciem
... but I still hate ATI drivers
ATI drivers + ATI Tray Tools
Problem solved.

Doesn't fix any of the crossfire performance problems (Blur, Shattered Horizon, Bad company 2, Lead and Gold, Red Faction Guerrilla, etc)
impar 3rd June 2010, 21:47 Quote
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by enciem
Doesn't fix any of the crossfire performance problems (Blur, Shattered Horizon, Bad company 2, Lead and Gold, Red Faction Guerrilla, etc)
Arent those Crossfire related only?
Elton 4th June 2010, 01:59 Quote
Honestly the GTX465 isn't too bad, they just gave it a retarded price. If it was seriously cheaper, like HD5830 levels cheap, then it would own, especially with some OCing going on.
Cyberpower-UK 10th June 2010, 11:24 Quote
I've been trying to unlock them. AFIK you need to flash the card to ASUS BIOS then use ASUS 465 unlocker app. Once you have the shaders of the GTX470 unlocked performance almost matches GTX470 and beats 5850 making it a stronger contender at the £200 + VAT price point, they OC quite well too. I gained over 3k (25%) in Vantage. You don't see those gains on ATi cards without tweaking up the voltages.

I had a play on BF:BC2 on a GTX465 & 1055T @ 3.5GHz yesterday, all bells and whistles turned on 4xAA 16xAF never dropped below 50fps.
Pooeypants 12th June 2010, 15:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyberpower-UK
I've been trying to unlock them. AFIK you need to flash the card to ASUS BIOS then use ASUS 465 unlocker app. Once you have the shaders of the GTX470 unlocked performance almost matches GTX470 and beats 5850 making it a stronger contender at the £200 + VAT price point, they OC quite well too. I gained over 3k (25%) in Vantage. You don't see those gains on ATi cards without tweaking up the voltages.

I had a play on BF:BC2 on a GTX465 & 1055T @ 3.5GHz yesterday, all bells and whistles turned on 4xAA 16xAF never dropped below 50fps.
This is a risk though, not all 465's can be successfully unlocked so for the normal consumer, I'd still recommend the 5850.
Log in

You are not logged in, please login with your forum account below. If you don't already have an account please register to start contributing.



Discuss in the forums