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HP Slate specs leaked

HP Slate specs leaked

HP's Slate has some advantages over the iPad - but the smaller screen and lower battery life could put buyers off.

Apple's iPad slate-format PC might be getting all the buzz at the moment, but HP doesn't want people to forget that it's launching its own eponymous Slate device - and has been gradually leaking information to whet peoples' appetites.

First there was a promotional video, spotted by the guys over at UberGizmo, which quietly points out all the features the HP Slate has that the iPad doesn't: mostly concentrating on the device's USB port and SD card reader. The video - entitled "HP's Slate Device: A Full Mobile Experience" - even manages a few digs at Apple directly, showing the Slate running iTunes and with what appears to be an iPhone USB cable connected.

Promotional videos are all well and good, but it's specifications that count - and HP's next leak provides that in spades. According to a slide designed to provide retailers with a blow-by-blow comparison between the Slate and the iPad, there are some upsides and some downsides to HP's upcoming device.

As can be seen in the copy of the slide over on Engadget, the good news is that the Slate will come with a 1.6GHz Atom Z530 processor - likely to perform faster than the 1GHz custom ARM-based processor found in the iPad, and compatible with alternative operating systems should you choose to replace the included copy of Windows 7 Home Premium. This processor is backed up by 1GB of DDR2 RAM - "not consumer upgradable," apparently - and either a 32GB or 64GB SSD.

The Slate also wins in the connectivity stakes, with an SDHC reader supporting cards of up to 128GB, a single USB 2.0 port, support for a desktop dock providing HDMI, power, audio, and additional USB ports, and a standard SIM card slot for the mobile broadband enabled edition.

Sadly, it couldn't all be good news: the smaller 8.9" display runs at a 1024x600 resolution compared to the iPad's larger 9.7" 1024x768, although HP is quick to counter with the fact that its screen has "pen/digitiser support." Battery life is also an issue, with the HP Slate managing a mere five hours to the iPad's ten.

Although the leaked slide doesn't provide a launch date, it does offer a suggestion of US pricing: the base 32GB model is expected to cost $549, while the 64GB edition will set you back $599 - both coming in cheaper than Apple's equivalent iPad.

Has HP's Slate got you interested in the form factor, or has the company failed spectacularly to come up with the promised iPad killer? Share your thoughts over in the forums.

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ImInTheZoneBaby 6th April 2010, 11:21 Quote
Lower battery and a smaller screen. Hmm.
They could improve that, but I suppose it could be worth it, seeing as you don't get the heavily restricted Apple operating system.
general22 6th April 2010, 11:26 Quote
These things will be fail because to pull off touch you need an OS designed with a touch interface and control in mind so while this will be more flexible and powerful the overall experience will probably suck compared to something like the iPad in usability terms.

That said I would probably buy something like this over an iPad.
Tangster 6th April 2010, 11:27 Quote
Looks nice, if it's £300 or less then I might think about picking one up, otherwise I'll look at some swivel screen ultraportables.
Picarro 6th April 2010, 11:31 Quote
This was actually what I was expecting. A bit more powerful, and that would be a minus on the battery life.
Baz 6th April 2010, 11:37 Quote
Thing is that this is a full PC running windows 7 and not just a novelty giant iPhone. The limitations of the Atom platform are still massive though so I'm hardly taken with it. Some hands on time required.
proxess 6th April 2010, 11:44 Quote
What about graphics? The question is, Does it run Crysis?!
Bindibadgi 6th April 2010, 11:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tangster
Looks nice, if it's £300 or less then I might think about picking one up, otherwise I'll look at some swivel screen ultraportables.

£500 I recon. Z-series Atoms are expensive and it's a bespoke design, not normal laptop tooling.

Proxess: Atom graphics. You'll be lucky to run Aero.
SlowMotionSuicide 6th April 2010, 12:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
Thing is that this is a full PC running windows 7 and not just a novelty giant iPhone.


Since I got iPhone 3GS, the only thing i'd want would be a bigger one - I just love to browse the interwebs from my bed or sofa. Apple has really got things right with their touchscreen an OS, and imho these two are the things which will define the given device as a success or a failure. A slate-sized device would only suffer if it's forced to choke on a fullblown Windows.
Denis_iii 6th April 2010, 12:29 Quote
the question is wether plants vs zombies is better on the iPad or the HP Slate
I forsee this device being a failure just like HP totally screwing the Envy release with misinformation, hardware and software failures
crazyceo 6th April 2010, 12:45 Quote
If I'm really honest, I don't think I will ever need such a device other than for pure gadget geekness. My HTC phone can get me online if I really need to on the road. My netbook can get me online in bed or on the toilet. My Desktop can do everything else and kill Zombies effortlessly.

Will this or the iTampax fill in any of the gaps that I may unforeseeably have? I can see the additional benefit of the HP working such as the extra connectivity but is that enough?

I'm no cheapskate but I really would need to seriously justify the outlay on one of these instead of desktop upgrades.
Xir 6th April 2010, 14:27 Quote
sooo...it's a netbook, really.

But why not buy a convertible like the Eee PC T91MT (or something similar) with the same hardware for less money, and have an additional keyboard?
j_jay4 6th April 2010, 14:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
The question is, Does it run Crysis?!

Lmao, you'll be able to run flash videos showing crysis
B3CK 6th April 2010, 14:44 Quote
1024x600 resolution fail. Atom Gfx fail.
I thought the video chip makers, (ATI Nvidia), made a huge push over the last 2 years to enable their chips to go to ultra low power when idle. Why can't they get it together for the netbook generation?
javaman 6th April 2010, 15:03 Quote
I'm skeptical over windows7 os. They need to design a mobile os tailored for this product specifically. That's the strongest area of the ipad and even iphone that apple designed their own mobile os. While windows 7 is good my concern is that its heavy for the specs and thus sacrifices speed and battery.

It will be interesting to see where the tablet martket goes but I don't think it'll be an imediate success. While this has me kinda excited Ill wait until the 5th gen ipad before I start looking at them. After all it'll take apple that long to include all the features of the iphone
rollo 6th April 2010, 15:57 Quote
Win7 on 1gb ram and a 1.6ghz processor just be too slow

5hrs battery life is lol In this day and age

if ipad really does get 10hrs of life that's a good days usage

Niether will replace the laptop and I would never buy a netbook

ipad gets more and more tempting. Wonder why it supports the pen feature surely it's fully touch compatiable

600mhz on win 7 vs 1ghz on ipad custom built os dout it will be faster if anything it willl be slower

uk price will be above £400 for both I guess
wuyanxu 6th April 2010, 16:13 Quote
i think it's either people not sure what they want or the current technology is not ready yet.

the iPad is a very good implementation, although limited, it offers everything the device is capable of, nothing more. the HP Slate offers so much more, tried to pack a netbook into such a small package, but due to technology is not ready yet, it feels clumsy and runs out of battery really fast.

there ought to be a half way house, a redesigned interface that offers more than the iPhone OS by taking advantage of the full screen and possible peripherals (USB, SD reader) but doesn't require as much battery as Intel Atom running full Windows.
Blanx3_Bytex 6th April 2010, 16:35 Quote
Was tegra not good enough for this?
I thought Nvidia was pushing it for just such products like this.
Krikkit 6th April 2010, 17:59 Quote
When's courier coming? Are there any Tegra slates that anyone knows about? I'm looking forward to serious competition in this sector.
wafflesomd 6th April 2010, 18:09 Quote
It's immediately a better product to me because it's not running the iphone OS.
Jehla 6th April 2010, 19:12 Quote
Maybe I'm missing the point here but why use win7? It adds £90 odd to the price tag and extends boot time (?). The advantage of proper office applications and direct X seem redundant on a slate device.

More to the point though, more netbooks with swivel touch screens please
rollo 6th April 2010, 20:49 Quote
lol waffle you either never used the OS or just HATE apple

as its a mobile OS done right same with andriod convert either into this and id buy it. Instead what you have is windows 7 which doesnt run well on anything below 2gb of ram.
HourBeforeDawn 6th April 2010, 20:59 Quote
even its downside is still more of an upside then Apples iPad, but what abut MSI version running Android? its similar to the iPad but can run or will run soon Flash and it can multitask unlike the iPad. so either way the iPad is only good for those brainwashed mac fans.
Nexxo 6th April 2010, 21:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by rollo
Win7 on 1gb ram and a 1.6ghz processor just be too slow

5hrs battery life is lol In this day and age

if ipad really does get 10hrs of life that's a good days usage
Actually, independent tests have shown 14 hours of video playback.

And if you want a realistic idea of the battery life on the HP Slate, think of that of the Archos 9 PC Tablet.
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Originally Posted by Krikkit
When's courier coming? Are there any Tegra slates that anyone knows about? I'm looking forward to serious competition in this sector.
The Courier is still a Flash animation. There is no prototype hardware; there isn't even an OS running on a mock-up platform. It is still just an idea.
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
even its downside is still more of an upside then Apples iPad, but what abut MSI version running Android? its similar to the iPad but can run or will run soon Flash and it can multitask unlike the iPad. so either way the iPad is only good for those brainwashed mac fans.
Android is a viable alternative OS. But multitasking (as owners of the Palm Pre found out) eats battery. And no matter how many shiny features your tablet has, if the battery life sucks it is just another pretty looking brick.
TSR2 6th April 2010, 21:27 Quote
Will 1GB RAM will really be enough for Win7 (unless HP does some serious customisation and trimming)? I think the danger here is that consumers will think 'Windows 7='proper' OS=can do all sorts' even though I don't feel this form factor is really designed for that.
TWeaK 6th April 2010, 22:02 Quote
That Archos 9 ran Win 7 starter, which, as I understood it, was basically the version for developing countries with very minimal features. Wasn't Microsoft talking about a specific version of Win7 designed for touchscreen devices? If we could have something like that but stripped down to run with minimal overhead, while still offering the compatibility of a Windows OS then we might have something here. Although, I would be interested to see a few tailored Linus distros on machines like this.

At the end of the day though, I don't see myself owning one anytime soon. It would be nice to have a desktop for gaming and regular use, a smart phone for use on the go and a tablet for use sitting on the sofa, however my smart phone can do that anyway so I don't see how it's really necessary.
Daza 6th April 2010, 22:21 Quote
Im sorry, just had to pop in and say that Im a little disappointed in the readership on bit-tech lately.

First off, has anyone ran win7 on a 1.6ghz cpu and 1gb of ram, if so wth were you trying to do, I can run win7 home edition on my 1.2ghz atom with 1gb of ram surf the web, watch iplayer (and the like) use basic word processing programs and access iTunes from my server, now been sat on my bed and to be able to do that is great in the morning. Yes its not going to run crysis but why would I want it to, Ive got a power sucking demon to do that.

Im very interested in the slate purely as it offers freedom in which OS I would like to use that and I will actually be able to PRINT from it unlike the iPad sure.

Sure the battery is only 5hrs, but in this day and age when are you going to be away from a power socket for more than 5hrs, I only get 2hrs on my net-book which is more than enough.

For basic usage on the web, tv catch up, word processing I think it will surprise a few, have an open mind jeeez.

And yes sure its a tad smaller than the iPad, but use an 8.9" screen for long enough and you get use to it, its not a desktop replacement people get use to it.
HourBeforeDawn 6th April 2010, 22:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by TSR2
Will 1GB RAM will really be enough for Win7 (unless HP does some serious customisation and trimming)? I think the danger here is that consumers will think 'Windows 7='proper' OS=can do all sorts' even though I don't feel this form factor is really designed for that.

Blame Intel they set the requirements for the Atom and what other hardware would be spec for it.
-Xp- 6th April 2010, 22:39 Quote
The only thing that worries me is that it has "pen/digitiser support". Does that mean it doesn't have a regular resistive touchscreen? I already have a slate tablet which I love, but I wish it had a dual resistive/digitiser screen,
The_Beast 6th April 2010, 23:21 Quote
A larger screen, or equal to the iPad, and a large battery life an this thing would be golden
LightningPete 7th April 2010, 00:03 Quote
the thing is no one has appeared to notice a pattern in peoples comments:
I want a bigger screen and better battery life, or it is i want better hardware and have it cheaper... The problem is folks, at the moment, most technology has all been aimed to one particular market, so it wont appeal to certain market 'groups' Those wanting a bigger screen or bigger res need to go to netbooks and laptops. Those looking for better hardware that is cheaper are desktops. Those wanting portability are in the laptop section. Its simple, any device released from now to the past has concentrated on one market segment. This is simply like the netbook, just you hold it rather than rest it on your lap, the only advantage is you can walk with it, and look like your from the future... Ipad and HP unfortunately are selling big in the U.S. only because its 'different' but exactly the same as their netbook equivilants. Mac OS is fast yes, but limited if you want certain software, Windows 7, like vista is still slower than XP, and as such the hardware is not really upto to the task.
The end.
Next month the Iflop and the HP 7.1/2inch floppy. Purpose: Expensive load of non-sense that you already have, but you physically hold or use it differently.
LightningPete 7th April 2010, 00:04 Quote
As for battery lives, i think instead of trying to cap the hardware, just make a more powerful battery!!! But nevermind eh!
stonedsurd 7th April 2010, 00:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Daza
Sure the battery is only 5hrs, but in this day and age when are you going to be away from a power socket for more than 5hrs, I only get 2hrs on my net-book which is more than enough.
As a university student who is also flying all over the place pretty often, I can assure you that >5hrs of battery life is a boon. And for the record, netbooks are pathetic. Having used an MSI Wind U123 (N270, 2GB RAM, XP) and the 32GB WiFi iPad, I definitely know which device is getting my money.
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For basic usage on the web, tv catch up, word processing I think it will surprise a few, have an open mind jeeez.
Yeah sure, no one's questioning the fact that it's a capable device. Except it's not on sale yet and I rather doubt it'll do half a million units in a day.
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And yes sure its a tad smaller than the iPad, but use an 8.9" screen for long enough and you get use to it, its not a desktop replacement people get use to it.
Use a 9.7" screen for long and you get used to it too. :p

In summation, you needn't be surprised at the readership on bit. People can have requirements that are occasionally perfectly met by your neighborhood Devil's Workshop (Apple Store). Live and let live.
Sloth 7th April 2010, 00:42 Quote
It may not be the dream device handed down from the tech-Heavens, but I doubt anyone here can deny that it's a step in the right direction.

-Runs a real OS. We all want our devices to be as capable as possible, a full fledged OS is a part of that.
-Greater I/O options. Again, we want to be able to do anything our desktops can, only from a portable device.
-More powerful hardware. Always a good thing when price allows.
-Less price. Always a good thing when hardware isn't compromised.

Unfortunately, current technology does not allow these features without cutting back on the battery life. But that does not mean a device shouldn't try and pave the way for future devices to follow.
RichCreedy 7th April 2010, 01:19 Quote
my kids have sff desktops running atom 330, 2Gb ram, windows 7 and have the aero interface running just fine, they are not game playing machines, but they serve the purpose, web browsing, and homework.
deadsea 7th April 2010, 02:39 Quote
330s are dual cores? Think that helps a fair bit with the whole win 7 thing.

The iPad will likely appear to be better than this simpily because it does not multitask. Start up email and an excel sheet and it will likely start to slow down. Unless they implement that into win 7 there really is no competition in percieved responsiveness. Maybe they could stick a netbook remix of linux on it. That might help somewhat.
Xir 7th April 2010, 12:51 Quote
The "new" Atom genaration N450 gets delivered almost solely with win 7, and is supposed to run longer than on XP. Win7 seems to have a problem with the little RAM though (XP less so)
My netbook is N450 based, running XP on 1 gig of ram, with a 10" 1024x600 screen runs for 8 hours with WiFi on.
Doesn't have a touchscreen though, does that eat power?

Multitasking is something essential...surfing and having skype in the background for instance...try that with an Ipad.
Nexxo 7th April 2010, 16:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sloth
It may not be the dream device handed down from the tech-Heavens, but I doubt anyone here can deny that it's a step in the right direction.

Read this review and you'll see why I can.
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Originally Posted by Sloth
-Runs a real OS. We all want our devices to be as capable as possible, a full fledged OS is a part of that.
I'd like you to explain what a "real" OS is, and how the iPad OS is not a "real" OS. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by Sloth
-Greater I/O options. Again, we want to be able to do anything our desktops can, only from a portable device.
With great power comes great batteries, weight, keyboard...
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Originally Posted by Sloth
-More powerful hardware. Always a good thing when price allows.
Price does not allow. That's the problem. To get the Tablet you want you pay $1500,-- and get a battery life of 3-4 hours. Big whoop.
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Originally Posted by Sloth
-Less price. Always a good thing when hardware isn't compromised.
Do you want fries with that? There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Originally Posted by Sloth
Unfortunately, current technology does not allow these features without cutting back on the battery life. But that does not mean a device shouldn't try and pave the way for future devices to follow.
The iPad does. It's going to catch on, applications will be developed for it, and competitors are going to try and make competing products. Some of them may even make the grade (I predict: Google's tablet running Android; perhaps if Microsoft sees the blindingly obvious: an Atom tablet running Windows Mobile 7).

It is kind of funny. Apple releases a less than perfect product and everybody gets out the pitchforks and torches. HP releases announces a less-than-perfect product and everybody says: "Hey, it's a step in the right direction... at least it is trying to pave the way...".

BULLSHIT. Apple got there first: it has a working product, on the shelf right now, at a fairly keen price, with all the media delivery infrastructure already in place. Y'all are staring yourself blind on the hardware. The hardware don't matter dick if it does not have decent software to run on it, and a battery life that doesn't turn the concept of portability into a joke. Two hours? I might as well use my desktop machine.

And what's really annoying is that you don't realise that Apple has the hardware --only it is so well-designed that you aren't even aware of its existence. You think touch screens are simple? You think the algorithms required to make sense of your chubby fingertips trying to poke, scroll, drag and pinch are easy? Try working on a Motorola touch-screen phone and you'll see what I mean.
stonedsurd 7th April 2010, 21:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir
Multitasking is something essential...surfing and having skype in the background for instance...try that with an Ipad.
Push notification.

While I see you point, and do agree, you can't deny that notifications work just as well.
Krikkit 7th April 2010, 22:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Hot damn Nexxo, if I didn't know better I'd say you were an iPad fanboy. :p
deadsea 8th April 2010, 02:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo


It is kind of funny. Apple releases a less than perfect product and everybody gets out the pitchforks and torches. HP releases announces a less-than-perfect product and everybody says: "Hey, it's a step in the right direction... at least it is trying to pave the way...".

BULLSHIT. Apple got there first: it has a working product, on the shelf right now, at a fairly keen price, with all the media delivery infrastructure already in place. Y'all are staring yourself blind on the hardware. The hardware don't matter dick if it does not have decent software to run on it, and a battery life that doesn't turn the concept of portability into a joke. Two hours? I might as well use my desktop machine.

Actually I don't really see how either are a step forwards. More like a blast from the past.

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/fujitsu-lifebook-t4215-tablet/1707-3126_7-32136365.html

From 2006, lasted over 3 hrs on video playback running xp. 4 years later and a chopped down version is the best they could come up with? Someone call fujitsu and get them to update that model and release it again. Maybe lose the keyboard.
skybarge 8th April 2010, 03:08 Quote
Deadsea is right, tablets have been going for at least 15-20 years. They come along and die. This time they might just stay however

HP FTW due to :
- Multitasking
- Proper PC chip
- Camera/webcams
- Full 1080P Output with HDMI(iPad struggles @ 720P and has no external output)
- iPad is just a big iPhone 3GS, exactly the same CPU just overclocked, why not just buy an iPhone 3GS or wait for the 4G?
stonedsurd 8th April 2010, 03:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by skybarge
iPad struggles @ 720P
Wrong
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iPad is just a big iPhone 3GS, exactly the same CPU just overclocked
Wrong again.

Have you even used the iPad?
Bindibadgi 8th April 2010, 04:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by stonedsurd
Wrong

Wrong again.

Have you even used the iPad?

Yes he is wrong, but anything other than h264 on the iPad and it simply won't play it due to Apple Quicktime fussyassness.
stonedsurd 8th April 2010, 04:42 Quote
Fair enough. Everything has codec limitations. h264 just happens to be widely used (and the best).
Xir 8th April 2010, 10:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by stonedsurd
Push notification.

While I see you point, and do agree, you can't deny that notifications work just as well.

Ah good! There hab to be a workaround, it'd bug people with an iphone too.
I thought that only worked for email?
stonedsurd 8th April 2010, 22:37 Quote
No, I'm pretty sure it works for chat clients as well. Been a while since I was part of the iCrowd (I got poor :p)
Xir 9th April 2010, 12:48 Quote
Hey!: German Link: Iphone OS4 to include multitasking


Well, they couldn't have shipped the IPad with this now?
It's not REAL multitasking, but it's serve it's purpose.
stonedsurd 9th April 2010, 21:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir
Hey!: German Link: Iphone OS4 to include multitasking


Well, they couldn't have shipped the IPad with this now?
It's not REAL multitasking, but it's serve it's purpose.

There's speculation that they had the same teams working on the iPad and iPhoneOS 4, so the iPad came out first, then they wrapped up iPhoneOS 4 and then they port it over to the iPad.

Sort of like how most dev work on TF2 stops when Valve is working on some other game. :p
Nexxo 11th April 2010, 14:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Krikkit
Hot damn Nexxo, if I didn't know better I'd say you were an iPad fanboy. :p

I'm just not an Apple hateboy.

The people who criticise the iPad have no clue. They have never owned a Tablet, but I have used one on a daily basis for six years --a top-of-the-line model, at that. I know its strengths and weaknesses, and I know how much it costs to build one and moreover, why. I know what is important on a tablet and what is trivial, based on how it is used. I also have owned an iPhone for nearly two years now, so I like to think that I can make a fairly decent comparison.

But all I get is people whining about what the iPad can't do or hasn't got and what it should have, without the barest realisation of what that would cost or what the technological compromises are that have to be made. They don't even understand how the thing is used. There is absolutely no vision: just boxed-in thinking that can't get beyond the laptop.

As soon as a non-Apple manufacturer releases a product that is at least as flawed, if not more so (HP Slate) everybody goes: "Oh, well, it's not perfect but it is a step in the right direction." This about a product that is, frankly, a joke compared to the iPad. This is not unlike the mindless bleating we get about Microsoft from time to time. People who criticise Windows have simply no idea what it takes to make an OS that is idiot-proof and works on all possible weird and wonderful configurations of PC out there.

Stop with the hatin', and start being sensible and informed consumers who know what they want and why. It is difficult for any company to release a sensible product a bunch of fickle emo's.

And seriously: if any manufacturer thinks they can do better than Apple, let them put their product where their mouth is. So far I've seen independent reviews on four alternative tablets, all carrying an architecture suggested by Apple hateboys (Atom, sometimes on nVidia Ion platform), all with the features they want to see (camera, USB, in some but not all cases multitasking, Flash support) and they are all deemed execrable. They are all utter pants.
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