First Fermi cards to be named GTX 480, GTX 470
This is all we've seen of a GF100 card so far.
A posting on Nvidia's official GeForce Twitter account stated "GeForce GTX 480 and GeForce GTX 470 will be the names of the first two GPUs shipped based on our new GF100 chip!" That leaves us us here at bit-tech wondering what happened to the GTX 300 series.
Nvidia is no stranger to inexplicable naming decision, having infamously re-branded its G92-based cards, with the GeForce 8800 GT becoming the 9800 GT, and the the 9800 GTX being rebadged as the GTS 250.
There's still no information on clock speeds or, more importantly, an actual release date, but at least those waiting for the next Nvidia GPU now have a name to put on their wish list.
Are you eagerly anticipating the new line of cards from Nvidia, or are you more cynical towards Nvidia's latest re-jig to it's naming strategy? Either way, let us know in the forums.
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Discuss in the forums Replylolol. They can't count can they? (200b->GF100 ; 200 -> 400)
oh hang on, anyone reckon we'll be seeing a GTX260 badged as a 350 or something soon? could be
X850XT PE anyone?
;)
... I don't get it.
=(
And the 330. And the 335. And the 360. And the 380.
It would be more baffling if they names these 300 parts tbh.
And it makes the jump sound bigger.
Yes but the thing is, you know what you're buying. Ordinary consumers who have a small bit of knowledge but want to get into upgrading don't have a chance at understanding all the naming tripe. Plus Nlolia are smart on the marketing and know if they start calling it a few numbers above people will automatically think it's a world of performance ahead. It ain't big and it ain't clever.
+480 (fail-eighty)
How over priced are these gonna be?
You are right of course and I agree 100% but bit-techs reader base represents only a fraction of people buying computer hardware and it's safe to say half of them won't/don't do their research or won't know what they are researching anyway. That's where the shrewd marketing comes in to pull in these users and squeeze out the maximum amount of money. I don't like it. I mean there is no point to it either when you could have easily understandable systems of names that don't detract from the performance of your quality product.
GTS360M, GTS350M, GT335M, GT330M, GT325M, GT320M, 310M and 305M.
About the performance..... Can it play Crysis max out?
or
Can it play Crysis 2?
I reckon close to their name ^_^ Maybe that's behind the generation skip, it's so they can market them at their price :P
The card looks like it's proving the theory of "everythings getting smaller" is wrong again!
i wouldnt since OEMs already have the 300 series which support DX10.1. I think the 300 series is a scaled down version of the 400 series.
If they are, they're a bit crap. I recently had a laptop with a 310m card in and it was about 2% faster than an 8600M GT. The i3-330 it had was nice though :)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
Very true, but in would only happen in an ideal world. It is daft, but like I said, it's more of an iritation then a real problem. Maybe its like an inside joke.
meanwhile at the nvidia-cave
"ha ha, next we shall call our cards 8008135 , lal lal lal!!!!!bbq1"
On a serious note ill never be a fanboy of either Nvidia or AMD. None of us should be tbh. That way companies have to compete for our hard earned cash. So if Fermi releases and the price/performance is pants then AMD will be my next card. On the other hand, if the price isnt ridiculous but the performance increase in the games i play is significant Nvidia can gladly have my cash.
On a side note i do like AMDs stratergy atm. Going for decent performance and lower power consumption (and also cheaper chips to produce).
I really hope Nvidia dont back themselves into a corner with a hot running expensive chip. We all benefit from the duopoly.
Ford Focus -entry level
Ford Fusion -mainstream sedan
Ford Mustang -high end sports car
then just differentiate them by year.
2010 GeForce Expresso
2010 Geforce Commando
2010 Geforce Armada
Ok I'm just pulling names out of my ass, but tell me that wouldn't be easier to remember than endless numbers and rebrandings.
That would work, but for the complexity of rebranding, and how many products are offered. The way you put it is simple, but thinking about it, you'd end up with stuff like
Geforce Midstream Basic (9600GSO)
Geforce Midstream Plus (9600GT)
Geforce Excel Value (8800GS)
Geforce Excel (8800GTS of old)
Geforce Excel Pro (8800GT)
Geforce Excel Pro II (9800GT)
Geforce Excel Turbo (8800GTS new)
Geforce Maximum (8800GTX)
Geforce Maximum Extreme (8800 Ultra)
Geforce Maximum Pro (9800GTX)
Geforce Maximum Pro Plus (9800GTX+)
Geforce Maximum Advance (GTS250)
And that isn't exactly any better. And all these are 8800s, let alone the proper GTX200s, the basic GT200s, the 8600s and below, 9500s and below and all the mobile chips. Numbers get confusing, names get ridiculous.
If you were around circa 2004, the X850XT PE was pretty much the world's most sought after card, and sure enough there was hardly any stock(BT has an article, the faliure one I think about this). Leading to everyone calling it the phantom or press edition.
In other words, aside from having a ludicrous name(well still okay compared to the X1950XTX Crossfire) it was highly sought after and was basically an illusion. Kinda like the GTX480 when it'll come out probably.
Anyway, i guess having the uneven ones be the meh OEM parts like it is now with the 300 series lives up to reVidia legacy. Why they picked 470 as opposed to 460 is completely beyond me though.
Frankly, i'm a bit disappointed. I fully expected the next generation to be called something completely irrelevant again, on account of their cool new cuda cores. Oh well, start up the rebranding mill!
Oh and rep for Obiwan! :D
Then I cried a bit.
It looks like one of the Raven Cases (the one that got such a glowing review on Bit.... :p)
Personally before I start 'lol nvidia fail etc', I will at least wait until the cards are released and available. For the moment I will enjoy my new HD5870 voltage tweak (got it for £280.... :D).
I'm still sticking with 8008135.....
What's in a name?
I reckon they're going with 4xx as the mobile chips are 3xx. Simple.
It's either good, or it's not. If it's not, I won't buy one... if it is, I will - even if it's called Susan.
People forget so quickly.
Time never stands still. Plus, wasn't it ATi who had the upper hand during it's X1900 days?
a) performance
b) benchmarks
c) if you guys have anything in the test labs right now
d) when you guys may receive something to test
e) are they ATi beaters
f) specs
g) if you have seen examples of what they can achieve did it bring tears to your eyes?
h) were they good tears or bad?
i) expensive?
Well Nvidia's quite mum about it, they haven't even allowed anyone to see one IRL much less bench mark it, the only thing we can base it's performance off of is the white paper specs and the white paper performance benchies they did themselves which, I'm somewhat inclined to believe as they did fairly represent the opposition.
I think that's what people sometimes call "competition", you know, all that "now we're #1, now you're #1 and we have to play catch-up" stuff. Maybe I'm wrong though. :|
;)
This is all hearsay and guesswork at the moment (and I obviously don't work for bit tech(, but
a) Probably going to be GTX480 is to HD5870 what the GTX280 was to the HD4870.
b) None yet (probably deliberate, since there have been so many problems so far)
c) I doubt it, nvidia haven't made anywhere near enough cards
d) I'd guess Sometime next month, probably later rather than sooner
e) Yes and No. The HD5970 is almost certainly going to be vastly better than the GTX480, and the 480 is likely to be very expensive compared to the 5870, possibly prohibitively expensive.
f) Still up in the air, the clock speeds have been reduced since the first verson
g) I don't think there are going to be many huge surprises or disappointments, other than perhaps in the price tag.
h) N/A
i) Likely to be bad tears :P
Do you think ATi have put all of their cards on the table with their 5*** range of cards, or do you think they are holding the best parts back for Nvidia's release?
And 16 individual tessellation engines.
Plus NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround, Which is 3 panels in stereoscopic 3d.
Image quality will be awesome at high res.
Anything above 4xAA doesnt justify the performance loss.
256xAA does something though!
Always liked the name of that card. The X1950XTX too. They just sound cool in french but i get why you guys don't like them since they're much harder to pronounce in english
No they sounded awesome, they were just harder to get than Ferrari Enzos.
Any guesses on a release date? Late March? April?
edit: or dare I say it... single card 5970 X2! *grins and cackles then checks wallet and cries*