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Intel Core i3 Clarkdale details leaked

Intel Core i3 Clarkdale details leaked

Clarkdale CPUs have a GPU chip next to them - that's what those two rectangles are

Tech Connect Magazine is reporting a some pricing and details of Intel’s forthcoming Clarkdale processors, rumoured to be branded Core i3. T-C mag says that German reseller HPM-Computer.de reported that the new range of CPUs will be priced from €103.90 to €252.90 and will be clocked between 2.93GHz and 3.46GHz. Those are some scary numbers if you’re AMD, as even it’s fastest CPU – the Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition – struggles to keep up with Intel’s 2.66GHz Core i5-750.

The story says that there will be both Core i3 and Core i5 Clarkdale CPUs, all of which will have integrated DirectX 10 GPUs. It looks like the Core i3 range won’t have Turbo Boost while the new Core i5s will. However, the level to which these new Core i5s boost doesn’t look quite as impressive as the levels to which the Lynnfield-based Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs can achieve.

The TDPs of the chips look fairly decent at 73W for most of the CPUs, which is a consequence of the 32nm manufacturing process. However, the German reseller suggests that there will be one Core i5 with a TDP of 87W as its GPU will be clocked at 900MHz rather than the 733MHz of the rest of the range. The name of the CPU and the question mark next to its price doesn’t fill us with much confidence that this ‘Core i5-661’ will really happen.

Intel Core i3 Clarkdale details leaked
The leaked information on Intel’s forthcoming Core i3 and Core i5 processors (codenamed Clarkdale)

We expect Clarkdale to fit into the LGA1156 socket, though we don’t yet know if it’ll be compatible with P55 motherboards. However, we have seen some performance figures for Clarkdale CPUs as well as some preview shots of a Westmere motherboard

We don't expect these CPUs to launch this year, so in the meantime all we can do is talk - are you looking forward to some budget-tastic Intel CPUs or do you think AMD will have enough to resist these new CPUs? And would you be annoyed if they weren't compatible with P55 boards? Thoughts in the forums please!

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dolphin-promotions 24th November 2009, 15:34 Quote
I keep delaying building a HTPC and I am now thinking it maybe worth holding out to see what these bring to the table. 103 euros seems like a decent price for the lowest end one.

Though I guess GPU performance will be the deciding factor.
smc8788 24th November 2009, 15:43 Quote
I assume all of these are dual cores? Any idea if/when there will be any more quad core i5's?
l3v1ck 24th November 2009, 15:47 Quote
Doh!
These parts will be a bit too late for the PC I'm building later this months. Shame.
crazyceo 24th November 2009, 15:52 Quote
This does look interesting. The thing going for AMD is the lack of new motherboard, ram needed for the upgrade.

However, if you are buying a new system it's looking like Intel for any build regardless of price.

Looks like Intel will recoup that money given to AMD a couple of weeks ago quite easily. What AMD are going to do I don't know, the only thing going for them at the moment is ATi but will that change as well early next year?
AshT 24th November 2009, 16:44 Quote
Whats the difference between Level 1, 2 and 3 cached memory? I've never questioned it when it was just L1 and L2, but now L3 is in the tech specs I gotta know.
SMIFFYDUDE 24th November 2009, 16:44 Quote
Please inform me better if i've missed the point (and i'm sure I have), but why do I want a CPU with intergrated GPU? Wouldn't upgrading gfx when needed, also mean replacing a CPU which is otherwise perfectly adequate. Or ending up buying a dedicated gfx card anyway. Is this just aimed at small HTPCs?
Ryun 24th November 2009, 16:46 Quote
I feel like these chips are only going to be successful on paper and in reviews but not in sales, and in no way a nail in the coffin for AMD. OEMs are still trying to sell off their inventory of Core 2's as well as their inventory of Socket LGA775 mobos. Intel will be very much competing with itself before there's a huge threat to AMD.

Now, if zambezi and llano are flops in 2011, then AMD is going to have a problem.
Bindibadgi 24th November 2009, 16:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by SMIFFYDUDE
Please inform me better if i've missed the point (and i'm sure I have), but why do I want a CPU with intergrated GPU? Wouldn't upgrading gfx when needed, also mean replacing a CPU which is otherwise perfectly adequate. Or ending up buying a dedicated gfx card anyway. Is this just aimed at small HTPCs?

Because it means cheaper motherboards, less cooling issues because it only needs one large heatsink and OEMs love onboard graphics. Intel is the biggest graphics manufacturer in the world, thanks to its shitty IGPs.

You can buy one of these and plug in a graphics card like any normal motherboard and it disables the onboard.
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Originally Posted by AshT
Whats the difference between Level 1, 2 and 3 cached memory? I've never questioned it when it was just L1 and L2, but now L3 is in the tech specs I gotta know.

L1 cache is tiny and is the fastest most needy place on the CPU pipeline. L2 cache is slightly bigger, slightly slower and holds more general data at the end of the pipeline. L3 cache is the slowest and holds more complete, but regularly accessed data from all cores, not just one. It stops other cores sniffing each other to see what they are doing: it's called a snoop-filter. Dual cores don't really need a L3 cache, but many-core CPUs do.
alpaca 24th November 2009, 17:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by AshT
Whats the difference between Level 1, 2 and 3 cached memory? I've never questioned it when it was just L1 and L2, but now L3 is in the tech specs I gotta know.

L1 is a tiny bit of on-chip superfast RAM (not really, i know) only one core has access to. L2 is somewhat bigger somewhat less fast RAM on the chip where both cores have acces to. and L3 is again bigger and again somewhat slower and buffers between the RAM (the sticks in your MB, not on-chip) and the L2, like the RAM buffers between the hard disk and the CPU.

somebody more hardware litterate: correct me if i'm wrong

EDIT: ah, ninja'd by bindi
SMIFFYDUDE 24th November 2009, 17:27 Quote
Thankyou Bindi
TSR2 24th November 2009, 17:30 Quote
Those are some pretty decent numbers, although I assume the GPU will be more or less useless for anything worth doing? I'm still not sold on the idea of a GPU in the same package as the CPU, as it can't be especially good to keep the heat down, which outweighs the advantages of bandwidth.
Bindibadgi 24th November 2009, 17:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by SMIFFYDUDE
Thankyou Bindi

;) no probs!
V3ctor 24th November 2009, 17:57 Quote
The lowest i3 is still to expensive... All I need is a cheap dual-core, a mobo, 4gb ram DDR and a GPU that has a HDMI connector.
For example:

AMD X2 250 (2 core, maybe 3 core) -> 50€ (no need for more, the HD movies are played thru the onboard GPU), fresh cpu...
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO -> 75€ (with HD4200, plays some games, and offloads the cpu with the HD acceleration for blu ray's)
4Gb DDR3 -> 65€

Board + AMD cpu = 125€


- The lowest core i3 -> 103€.... without a mobo, the cheapest 1156 mobo I found was 110€, but the new i3 mobos come without a NB, just a SB, but even without the Northbridge I don't believe it will get as down as the 75€ AMD motherboard... Still too expensive for HTPC...
AshT 24th November 2009, 17:58 Quote
Thanks Bindi & alpaca
tad2008 24th November 2009, 19:48 Quote
The concept has been an interesting one ever since it first surfaced, which seems like far too long ago now.

AMD in trouble? Personally, I don't think so, Intel have never made any real progress in to the graphics market or given any of the real graphics card makers anything to worry about and this is no exception.

Clearly this is a niche product that will have a greater appeal in smaller more portable devices where power saving and less demanding graphic uses apply.
Tangster 24th November 2009, 20:15 Quote
I'd like to see if VIA Nano could compete with i3 if it went dual-core. Imo, a dual-core nano with an onboard ATi 5-series GPU would be cool.
dire_wolf 24th November 2009, 21:09 Quote
turbo? seriously? not had turbo for about 15 years lol
Star*Dagger 24th November 2009, 21:11 Quote
AMD/ATI is ruling on the GPU side, if they get (when?) on top again on the CPU side, watch out!

I would still like to see at least 3 more companies making X86 procs.

Not a fanboy, I just buy the best,
Star¤Dagger
goldstar0011 24th November 2009, 22:17 Quote
The whole idea intrigues me, some people aren't bothered about GPU performance and games. am sure this chip will be sold in alot of OEM systems were people just want a computer in the house, and at least when you get a motherboard with onboard GPU, you now get some choice in the GPU to go with that board.

Personally not for me but prefer to have seperate but we'll see how the future pans out on these
javaman 24th November 2009, 22:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
....... the only thing going for them at the moment is ATi but will that change as well early next year?

It still remains to be seen if hex cores will contain a memory controller for DDR2. If they do thats huge upgradability. At the moment clarkdales socket is still unknown, could intel have 4 sockets on the go including LGA775?
Autti 24th November 2009, 23:10 Quote
Clarkdale have 1156 socket, that is certain. Hence the bit-tech review of that H57 board which is 1156 and is required for the IGP.
LeMaltor 24th November 2009, 23:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by dire_wolf
turbo? seriously? not had turbo for about 15 years lol

I remember pushing that button on my big beige box, nothing seemed to happen lol :D
TheUn4seen 25th November 2009, 05:18 Quote
It's not earth-shattering. Basically a relatively expensive dual-core with extremely crappy integrated GPU, I don't expect it to have any noticeable impact on the market. Certainly not in HTPCs where you can get an Athlon II X2 + 780G for a third of a price with ten times more GPU power.
thecrownles 25th November 2009, 08:08 Quote
Waiting for this to happen:

NIVIDIA launches graphics card with integrated CPU, compatible with new GPUBios bootloader.
crazyceo 25th November 2009, 08:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by LeMaltor
Quote:
Originally Posted by dire_wolf
turbo? seriously? not had turbo for about 15 years lol

I remember pushing that button on my big beige box, nothing seemed to happen lol :D

I remember doing that and a green led came on next to the button but I still stood there with a boast grin on my face and arms crossed showing bored and uninterested family members that the PC was now in "TURBO MODE!" If I was young now, would that now be me with a foot on the back bumper of a Corsa with a "PHAT" exhaust?
AshT 25th November 2009, 11:47 Quote
I can't remember if it were a 286 or 386 but I remember having a monochrome game almost identical in style to Knightlore. Pressing turbo made it run 10 times too fast, and at the same time it made me think WoW!!! This is the future.
Initialised 25th November 2009, 21:40 Quote
For some more interesting 32nm data have a look at this early review of i9: Intel Core i9 Review
crazyceo 26th November 2009, 08:16 Quote
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