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Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

Intel is planning to discontinue a number of Core i7 CPUs almost as soon as it lifts the curtain on Lynnfield on September 1st.

COMPUTEX 2009: According to sources at Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers, Intel is planning to discontinue a number of its Core i7 processors almost as soon as it pulls the covers off its new Lynnfield CPUs on 1st September.

The models include, but are not limited to, the Core i7 920 and Core i7 940, while one source suggested that the as-yet-unreleased Core i7 950 would also probably get the chop a bit later.

Apparently, Lynnfield's performance is so close to the cheaper i7 CPUs that Intel is looking to move the focus of its LGA 1366 socket to just the high-end, workstation and SMP boards using the X58 chipset. It all sounds remarkably similar to what AMD did with the early Athlon 64 FX processors, which used Socket 940 while all other Athlon 64s used Socket 754.

In light of this, motherboard manufacturers have said that they're already working to adjust their X58 product lines to cater for the price range and market future LGA 1366 processors will target.

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Burnout21 28th May 2009, 12:48 Quote
Haha i knew they would do this
oasked 28th May 2009, 12:54 Quote
So looks like i5 is going to be more expensive than first thought. Glad I've already got my i7 then. :D

We really, really need AMD to provide some decent competition to get Intel to bring down their prices and to give the consumer a better deal.

Which i7 CPUs are going to be left? Just the extreme edition? Sounds like their killing i7 off completely TBH.
b5k 28th May 2009, 12:54 Quote
I still don't understand what they're trying to do with the Core i7. When I look at it all I can think of is them shooting them selves in the foot.
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 13:05 Quote
This is going to truly piss off the enthusiast market. I bet that the i5 will not overclock as well as the i7, due to its rumoured higher BCLK of 250 MHz, hope I'm wrong...

"Lynnfield's performance is so close to the cheaper i7", does that mean the i5 will be more expensive than the i7, or was it a typo?
[USRF]Obiwan 28th May 2009, 13:11 Quote
And then the added knowledge that the cheap i5 boards get Sata3. I guess early adapters must feel very angry now with their expensive i7 motherboards. And why do we need another socket for the i5.
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 13:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
And then the added knowledge that the cheap i5 boards get Sata3. I guess early adapters must feel very angry now with their expensive i7 motherboards. And why do we need another socket for the i5.

I agree, except that i7 owners could always add a Sata 3.0 PCI board if they really needed it.
Paradigm Shifter 28th May 2009, 13:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by oasked
So looks like i5 is going to be more expensive than first thought. Glad I've already got my i7 then. :D

We really, really need AMD to provide some decent competition to get Intel to bring down their prices and to give the consumer a better deal.

Which i7 CPUs are going to be left? Just the extreme edition? Sounds like their killing i7 off completely TBH.

Sounds like it, yeah. This is quite worrying, really - while I'm not likely to kill my i7 920 any time soon, if the only possible replacement for it is a chip costing in excess of £750 (more than 920/mobo/RAM/GFX combined cost!) I will certainly think long and hard before buying any Intel kit ever again.
Sifter3000 28th May 2009, 13:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
This is going to truly piss off the enthusiast market. I bet that the i5 will not overclock as well as the i7, due to its rumoured higher BCLK of 250 MHz, hope I'm wrong...

"Lynnfield's performance is so close to the cheaper i7", does that mean the i5 will be more expensive than the i7, or was it a typo?

We're not sure on price for i5 but it will certainly be cheaper than i7. What the sentence means is that i5's performance is so close to the lower end i7s - i.e. 920 and 940 - that they will become pointless products.
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 13:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Sounds like it, yeah. This is quite worrying, really - while I'm not likely to kill my i7 920 any time soon, if the only possible replacement for it is a chip costing in excess of £750 (more than 920/mobo/RAM/GFX combined cost!) I will certainly think long and hard before buying any Intel kit ever again.


Apparently, the hex-core i7 will only be an extreme edition part as well, so i7 owners are pretty shafted on any upgrade routes, that don't involve major wallet torture:|
Kasius 28th May 2009, 13:34 Quote
I wasn't planning on my new i7 rig untill autumn but in light of this i think i'll be snapping a 920 now before they vanish of the shelves!
Paradigm Shifter 28th May 2009, 13:36 Quote
Yikes.

I hope Intel change their minds about that.
Fod 28th May 2009, 13:36 Quote
you gotta love intel's constant socket hopping. they really should take a leaf out of AMD's book in this regard.
DragunovHUN 28th May 2009, 13:38 Quote
Good thing this news came in before i started building an i7 rig.

What should i do now? Wait for the new socket or grab a 920 and hope it won't die untill my next overhaul?
Paradigm Shifter 28th May 2009, 13:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fod
you gotta love intel's constant socket hopping. they really should take a leaf out of AMD's book in this regard.

True. They stuck with 775 for a while, but even then when they released Core 2, they changed the specs so older boards didn't work.

I know AMD did this with the socket 754/940 going to 754/939... but creating a socket (1366) with a fairly broad range of processor prices on it, then killing off all but the very high end on it seems... daft.
wuyanxu 28th May 2009, 13:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Apparently, the hex-core i7 will only be an extreme edition part as well, so i7 owners are pretty shafted on any upgrade routes, that don't involve major wallet torture:|
damn, so the best upgrade route now would be to wait for i5 to stabilise in price?

after i read the article, i was going to hope on the i7 920 bus as soon as possible.
Kasius 28th May 2009, 13:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by DragunovHUN
Good thing this news came in before i started building an i7 rig.

What should i do now? Wait for the new socket or grab a 920 and hope it won't die untill my next overhaul?

I'm thinking the same. Any coments on this?
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 13:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
damn, so the best upgrade route now would be to wait for i5 to stabilise in price?

after i read the article, i was going to hope on the i7 920 bus as soon as possible.

An OCed i7 should last you a few years, and will be much cooler than an i5, do you really want the same processor as a future iMac owner:)
EvilRusk 28th May 2009, 13:57 Quote
Well that is quite hilarious. When chip companies do this they really need to have a good reason for doing so. Or probably not as people will keep buying from them anyway.

I'm becoming more skeptical about the notion of upgrading a CPU as the trend seems to be to change the socket with each generation. For those who bought Q6600, what upgrade is there that will actually make a difference? Seems to make more sense to build a well stocked PC and run it to the ground before building a new one.
adam_bagpuss 28th May 2009, 14:25 Quote
+1 i dont tend to upgrade as i go along, not the CPU and mobo anyway

so not too fussed to be honest ill keep my i7 until its mediocre but i will change my GPU every year to keep my graphics nice.
perplekks45 28th May 2009, 14:44 Quote
Killing i7 after what, a couple of months? Nice Intel! :|

@ Turbo: Why will i5 be hotter than i7? What did I miss?
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 14:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
Killing i7 after what, a couple of months? Nice Intel! :|

@ Turbo: Why will i5 be hotter than i7? What did I miss?

Cool as in Kewl.
yakyb 28th May 2009, 14:53 Quote
i think it was quite clear that i5 would perform similarly to i7 which is why i have been waiting what i hope to get is an i5 based home server then perhaps upgrade my gaming comp to i7 as the prices fall
Bindibadgi 28th May 2009, 15:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]And then the added knowledge that the cheap i5 boards get Sata3. I guess early adapters must feel very angry now with their expensive i7 motherboards. And why do we need another socket for the i5.

This is a VERY good point! Well done :)
Bindibadgi 28th May 2009, 15:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
Killing i7 after what, a couple of months? Nice Intel! :|

@ Turbo: Why will i5 be hotter than i7? What did I miss?

It's not killing it, it's simply focusing i7 on the super high performance workstation needs where it was intended originally. Triple channel is NOT a good idea for "mainstream" - we've seen triple channel kits cost less than dual channel DDR3 and DDR3 takeup for LGA775 is very low. i5 will be powerful, but still mainstream with 4/8GB of DDR3 so it will bring down prices of dual channel DDR3 kits quickly.
chrisb2e9 28th May 2009, 15:16 Quote
Meh, my q6600 still does everything I want it to do without skipping a beat. I'll just duck and cover and wait for the dust to settle in a year or two before I look to overhaul the system.
Bindibadgi 28th May 2009, 15:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
We're not sure on price for i5 but it will certainly be cheaper than i7. What the sentence means is that i5's performance is so close to the lower end i7s - i.e. 920 and 940 - that they will become pointless products.

Yes - simply put, Lynnfield will have less L3 cache iirc and only two channels of DDR3, however we've already seen when Core i7 runs on dual channel it makes FA difference to performance clock to clock, and with less L3 cache Lynnfields could probably overclock better too (or, at least the memory controller will OC better - making up for the extra channel of memory).

Intel has highly aggressive prefetchers thanks to its (long route to memory) FSB era Core 2 series, but now with such low latency memory access multiple channels don't make a huge amount of difference on the desktop, only server where it will also offer redundancy and extra capacity.

If anyone thinks Lynnfield will be cheap, think again imo. The boards will be high "Core 2 price", but coming down within 6-9 months as the bill of materials gathers pace, and depending on how much competition AMD puts in (to bring down the cost of P55). Since LGA775 parts will also be around with G41/P43 - Intel will be forcing the hand of many of us (again) to fork out more for a basic core performance to work up from. No more £60 E5200 + £100 P45 board sorry - you'll be looking at £150+£180 CPU if I were to throw in my 2p.

That said, it's not a bad thing given the technology, but I think with COMPETITION from Nvidia chipsets and AMD CPUs it would make the industry far more consumer friendly.
Burnout21 28th May 2009, 15:23 Quote
I am betting that the I5 will stay as long as 775 has, after a year there will be a die shrink, most likely the P65 chipset released offering some new features and such. I've not looked for intels road map yet, just guessing.

I7 is so young, that running out and grabbing the tech seemed a bad idea to me from the get go, i knew it would shift considering it was workstation grade.

Basically by this time next year i would have finished uni, earning a better wage than i am at the moment on placement, and the Q6600 right now will be due a potential upgrade as it will be 3 years old at that point.

Of course unless microsoft make some changes we could all be shafted soon, currently XP and vista are limited to 8 cores and the way things are going 8 cores will be fairly normal 2 years...
(yes XP would bottle neck an 8 core beast due to 32-bit, but we will still be using it!)
bowman 28th May 2009, 15:39 Quote
It doesn't matter, those with a clue might be aware that there are many affordable Xeon processors for the 1366 socket, including 920 equivalents and dual cores.
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 15:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by bowman
It doesn't matter, those with a clue might be aware that there are many affordable Xeon processors for the 1366 socket, including 920 equivalents and dual cores.

i7 920 eqiuvalent Xeon = X5550 @ 2.66 GHz, a real bargain at almost 1,000 dollars or £740

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=996527&source=froogle
Icy EyeG 28th May 2009, 17:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowman
It doesn't matter, those with a clue might be aware that there are many affordable Xeon processors for the 1366 socket, including 920 equivalents and dual cores.

i7 920 eqiuvalent Xeon = X5550 @ 2.66 GHz, a real bargain at almost 1,000 dollars or £740

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=996527&source=froogle

Not to mention that a lot of single LGA1366 motherboards don't support Xeon processors.
On the other hand... The CPU support section for Asus P6T shows "Core i7 950" and "Core i7 975".
bowman 28th May 2009, 17:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowman
It doesn't matter, those with a clue might be aware that there are many affordable Xeon processors for the 1366 socket, including 920 equivalents and dual cores.

i7 920 eqiuvalent Xeon = X5550 @ 2.66 GHz, a real bargain at almost 1,000 dollars or £740

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=996527&source=froogle

Sorry man, you're looking at the dual-socket versions. The single-socket version is the X3520 and has the same MSRP. They got the same frequency as the 940 and 965 too.
Evildead666 28th May 2009, 17:41 Quote
I will be trying to keep m q9450 well fed and happy for a bit longer then.
If it does go belly up, i'd rather place some dosh in AMD kit and OC it, than a lot of cash on comparable intel kit.
Will have to wait and see what this gpu on cpu has as ups and downs yet.....
Pookeyhead 28th May 2009, 17:51 Quote
I got in there just in time then... makes me wonder whether I should upgrade to a D0 or not before it disappears... maybe not... anyway. I'm pretty damned sure I can get a few years from this thing :)

I still don't get why i5 couldn't be socket 1366 however.

I'm a bit gutted that there will be no new 1366 boards when SATA3 comes available however. I hate having PCI cards for stuff that could be on the mobo.
bigsharn 28th May 2009, 18:13 Quote
I suddenly feel the need to slap Paul Otellini very hard...
javaman 28th May 2009, 18:13 Quote
Does this mean AMD will have the lower end market sealed up? If Phenom II x2 or Athlon II are priced right, add that to AM2+ boards and DDR2 (while its still cheap) I recon AMD would be better value for money.
On a side note, isn't the enthuast market usually made up of theose wanting either top end performance or best performane at the lowest price? Thats why C2D was so good. An E2xxx could yeild 3.5gHz of performance. i7 may pverclock like a beast but if the price is elitist, then does it offer the value? Seems intel is splitting the market into top end (i7), mid range(i5), Enthuast (C2D) and lower end
Turbotab 28th May 2009, 18:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by bowman
Sorry man, you're looking at the dual-socket versions. The single-socket version is the X3520 and has the same MSRP. They got the same frequency as the 940 and 965 too.

Retracted. Apologies, never heard of the W3520, to be fair it is not even listed on Intel's sspec for 1366 socket Xeons, have some rep. To be fair, I doubt current consumer X58 motherboard will continue to be produced when the plug is pulled on the i7, which might bump the build price up a notch.
Pookeyhead 28th May 2009, 18:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigsharn
I suddenly feel the need to slap Paul Otellini very hard...

Have some rep for writing the best sentence this week.
Nicb 28th May 2009, 19:25 Quote
+3 I've decided just now to stick with my Q6600 until I see limitations in it's performance. I'm sure that will not be anytime soon.
perplekks45 28th May 2009, 20:31 Quote
So, basically, we will see some i5s that perform the same as 920s or 940s but will be a bit cheaper yet need a new MB + some dual-channel DDR3?

So instead of paying £500+ for an i7 rig you now have to spend £450 for an i5 rig? Meh, my E6600 @ 3.6GHz will be enough until at least Christmas then. I was actually hoping for i5 being something like i7-for-people-on-a-budget. ;)
numanoid 28th May 2009, 21:07 Quote
ive never used intel and never will, there just a rip off company, got no concideration for there customers.....high prices.... ending the cpu line not long after it started....im glad im with AMD im happy with my 955 BE and am3 board, =future proof
take care all
I-E-D 28th May 2009, 21:11 Quote
Wait, i don't get this.

Is it good or bad?
bowman 28th May 2009, 21:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Retracted. Apologies, never heard of the W3520, to be fair it is not even listed on Intel's sspec for 1366 socket Xeons, have some rep. To be fair, I doubt current consumer X58 motherboard will continue to be produced when the plug is pulled on the i7, which might bump the build price up a notch.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time finding them as well on the regular sites and price guides, but the shop I use whenever I want server products like drive controllers and SAS cables and stuff have them, for the same price as the three first i7 SKUs. The 3.2GHz product is probably a bigger waste than the 965 since I'll bet my underpants it doesn't have an unlocked multiplier.

They also have 1.86GHz dual cores, 2GHz and 2.1GHz quad cores for dual sockets that are cheaper than the 920. Maybe they would do well as budget processors once overclocked - but we never hear much about them or read reviews. :(
Rapp 28th May 2009, 22:13 Quote
so let me get the straight that if my 920 fails in a year or so, I'm going to have to buy the top of the range i7 to replace the thing
dec 28th May 2009, 22:48 Quote
wow. just wow intel. how long is it before sandy bridge again? what was the point of i7 i meean when i5 comes out in september i7 would have been on the market for less than a year right? *sigh* wheres my AMD t-shirt?
naokaji 28th May 2009, 22:54 Quote
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In light of this, motherboard manufacturers have said that they're already working to adjust their X58 product lines to cater for the price range and market future LGA 1366 processors will target.

:(

Like the current 150 to 400£ would not be expensive enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by numanoid
ive never used intel and never will, there just a rip off company, got no concideration for there customers.....high prices.... ending the cpu line not long after it started....im glad im with AMD im happy with my 955 BE and am3 board, =future proof
take care all


They ain't a charity either....

S754, 939, 940 AM2, AM2+, plenty of sockets and remember K8 pricing before C2D launch?
oasked 28th May 2009, 22:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by numanoid
ive never used intel and never will, there just a rip off company, got no concideration for there customers.....high prices.... ending the cpu line not long after it started....

Forgotten socket 939 have we?



FYI - I had a great AMD socket 939 system BTW (which my folks now use).
Paradigm Shifter 29th May 2009, 00:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by oasked
Forgotten socket 939 have we?

FYI - I had a great AMD socket 939 system BTW (which my folks now use).

Totally true - AMD have done this trick before, as I've mentioned. Killing off socket 939 was a serious irritation for me, particularly since I've got a spare 939 Athlon64 processor, but no board for it to go in. My A8N32/Opteron 170 combo is still going strong. In total time used, it is probably my longest serving gaming system, actually - it can still handle most games I throw at it, provided I don't mind load times being a bit longer.

This is the second... potentially third time Intel have done this: previous two being; socket 423 to 478 transition (P4) and socket 775 to socket 775 (when they changed the electrical specifications of the chips with Core 2.)
Elton 29th May 2009, 02:51 Quote
There's two things I'm thinking right now...

1. Thank god I didn't buy an i7 yet.

2. LGA 1156 isn't going to last long either.
GoodBytes 29th May 2009, 03:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Totally true - AMD have done this trick before, as I've mentioned. Killing off socket 939 was a serious irritation for me, particularly since I've got a spare 939 Athlon64 processor, but no board for it to go in. My A8N32/Opteron 170 combo is still going strong. In total time used, it is probably my longest serving gaming system, actually - it can still handle most games I throw at it, provided I don't mind load times being a bit longer.

This is the second... potentially third time Intel have done this: previous two being; socket 423 to 478 transition (P4) and socket 775 to socket 775 (when they changed the electrical specifications of the chips with Core 2.)
I know! It's preaty cool, my Jan 2006 comp still runs strong with the Athlon 4400+ X2. The only game that shows signs that my CPU is limiting (other than Crysis) is GTA4, which is not a real problem. I did not expect to have my computer to last so much long.

I am also pissed that Socket 939, which was awesome, is now gone.. room for a ultra sucky AM2 socket with CPUs holding, and insulting the same name.
Skiddywinks 29th May 2009, 04:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Rapp
so let me get the straight that if my 920 fails in a year or so, I'm going to have to buy the top of the range i7 to replace the thing

Exactly. That, or buy a new i5 mobo and CPU, and chuck in two thirds of the RAM you are currently using with your X58 motherboard. Should work out the same price or cheaper. IIRC, RAM itself isn't channeled, and it is all down to the board. If you had 4 sticks and a quad channel board, you could just plug them in and the northbridge does the work.

However, with the current way things are going with northbridges being on the CPU, in the future it might all depend on the CPU you use, and thus motherboards you buy will be channel limited by what socket is on the board rather than what chipset is on the board.
Cupboard 29th May 2009, 11:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by bowman
It doesn't matter, those with a clue might be aware that there are many affordable Xeon processors for the 1366 socket, including 920 equivalents and dual cores.

I have found the 920 equivalent much cheaper in the US, one site selling it for $300 but can't find it cheaper in the UK :(
I-E-D 29th May 2009, 12:27 Quote
Dam, i was gunna get a i7 920 in like 2 weeks, does this mean i have to wait until september to get a worse CPU for more money?
Or should i just buy a 920, and hope it doesn't break?
Paradigm Shifter 29th May 2009, 12:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by I-E-D
Dam, i was gunna get a i7 920 in like 2 weeks, does this mean i have to wait until september to get a worse CPU for more money?
Or should i just buy a 920, and hope it doesn't break?
To be fair, unless you push chip-killing voltage through it (or it's a duff chip which means that Intel would be required to honour warranty on it) the chances of a CPU breaking 'just like that' is so negligible it's probably not worth worrying about.

Actually, that's a good question - are Intel going to keep some stock to cover warranty RMAs for 920/940/950's that die, or would they give you a shiny new 965/975 EE? Or would they say, "Tough, here's a new i5 chip (nearest equivalent) now go buy a new mobo."?
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Originally Posted by GoodBytes
I know! It's preaty cool, my Jan 2006 comp still runs strong with the Athlon 4400+ X2. The only game that shows signs that my CPU is limiting (other than Crysis) is GTA4, which is not a real problem. I did not expect to have my computer to last so much long.

I am also pissed that Socket 939, which was awesome, is now gone.. room for a ultra sucky AM2 socket with CPUs holding, and insulting the same name.
I wasn't that keen on AM2 and I was very annoyed they killed 939 off so quickly... but what annoyed me the most was that DDR still had a lot of life in it when they switched. AMD have always hung back on support for the latest type of RAM (a good thing, in my opinion - let Intel make everyone adopt the new super-expensive RAM) but when they jumped to DDR2, it was still markedly more expensive than DDR. Of course, now, DDR is expensive as hell, DDR2 is cheap-as-chips and DDR3 is coming down in price quite quickly. :)

When my Opteron 170 was paired with a 4850, it coped with Crysis very well @ 1920x1200/High. Load times were quite long, but they weren't terrible. Shorter than the load times of Red Alert on my old P75 back in the day... (sitting for five minutes for one of the later levels to load...) I never tried GTA4 (didn't want all that GfWL, RSC etc on my comp.
adam_bagpuss 29th May 2009, 13:03 Quote
if you dont intend to upgrade your CPU over the next 3 years then i7 920 is still a good options.

for me im not fussed about this, all platforms die (although pissed that its this quick)

i wont be upgrading my CPU or mobo for at least 2-3 years now and by that time the i5 platform will also be obsolete anyway.

the 920 hammers anything currently out overclocks well and i dont except it to become a bottle neck anytime soon.

SATA 6GB/s isnt going to be out for a while yet so thats hardly a downside to the x58 platform anyway.
Paradigm Shifter 29th May 2009, 13:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by adam_bagpuss
SATA 6GB/s isnt going to be out for a while yet so thats hardly a downside to the x58 platform anyway.
Quite.

Worry about SATA 6Gbps when HDDs and SSDs can saturate the current SATA standard.
I-E-D 29th May 2009, 20:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by adam_bagpuss
if you dont intend to upgrade your CPU over the next 3 years then i7 920 is still a good options.
Therefore i could hope there is a big sale on just before they stop selling, and get big discount?
smellydude 29th May 2009, 20:38 Quote
just brough my I7, building a new Rig! now i feel screwed!

should i sell off my parts before i regrate it!

man i duno anymore! what the Hell intel! thought I7 was the NEW greatness!!! then you go and screw with me.

why cant they just not make the i5 keep i7! make more SENSE? no?
god dam...

it is bad new!

Need some expert advice!!?
GoodBytes 29th May 2009, 20:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by smellydude
just brough my I7, building a new Rig! now i feel screwed!

should i sell off my parts before i regrate it!

man i duno anymore! what the Hell intel! thought I7 was the NEW greatness!!! then you go and screw with me.

why cant they just not make the i5 keep i7! make more SENSE? no?
god dam...

it is bad new!

Need some expert advice!!?

I felt the same with AMD when with the Socket 939, and decided to go DDR2 and target the low end market instead of competing with Intel despite creating an Intel killer CPU.
The worst is since that decision, DDR1 RAM prices sky-rocketed and stop being in large production. (and now probably stopped). So now I was stock with 2GB of RAM, and lucky enough had a friend that had 1GB DDR1 that had no more use (as he upgraded his system) with by pure coincidence the same speed and timing, and I added them to my system.

So today if my CPU or motherboard (out of warranty now), brakes... well I am screwed for a new motherboard and CPU and RAM, despite being able to play the latest games with no problem except for Crysis and GTA IV.
psychot1c 30th May 2009, 11:21 Quote
Sounds a bit like a Microtheft-like bonehead -money grubbing move to be honest.
Slizza 30th May 2009, 22:44 Quote
I'm unsure what to think of this.
I do think it will be easier to put it in perspective once we find out what intel is going to put on the market for the 1366 socket.
von_stylon 31st May 2009, 02:27 Quote
Guess they have to pay that whopping EU fine somehow, ******s!
biebiep 31st May 2009, 13:48 Quote
I'll just leave the name Xeon W3520 here...

It's basicly a i7 920... but with better binning.
The rest is completely the same, and that processor isn't EOL yet.
I-E-D 31st May 2009, 14:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by biebiep
I'll just leave the name Xeon W3520 here...

It's basicly a i7 920... but with better binning.
The rest is completely the same, and that processor isn't EOL yet.
Is it around the same price?
theriverlethe 8th June 2009, 02:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
And then the added knowledge that the cheap i5 boards get Sata3. I guess early adapters must feel very angry now with their expensive i7 motherboards. And why do we need another socket for the i5.

Who cares about SATA 6Gbits/s? Burst speed on a 300GB Velociraptor barely exceeds SATA 1.5Gbits/s.
GoodBytes 8th June 2009, 03:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by theriverlethe
Who cares about SATA 6Gbits/s? Burst speed on a 300GB Velociraptor barely exceeds SATA 1.5Gbits/s.

Yes the same was said with IDE... than poof no mode IDE development and faster HDD is made (and I include 5400 and 7200RPM HDD, beside 10000RPM and possibly coming up 15 000RPM). They don't exceed speed of IDE, but you can't find in IDE.
Now, I know what you'll say, but let me finish. We have SSD, which gets faster and faster (larger too), all at the same time cheaper; SSD 6Gbit/s would be needed. I gave it 5 years until we come close to the max limit. I don't know about you, but I don't trow away my old computer. It ends up being another computer or media center computer, desktop computer can easily last 7-8 years before they get really broken. So, as you can see this new SATA is interesting for the long run. Yes, you might say that when it comes to that end, I'll just buy a new SATA card, but what you don't see is that it's hard to spend money on something that you won't use everyday and that is very old; so you end up no doing it, and just have a computer in a shelf, or stock with a slow mechanical HDD, or paying the price of a slow SSD when for the same price a 2-3 times faster solution exists for the same price, and possibly more space.
perplekks45 9th June 2009, 14:55 Quote
In 7-8 years your CPU will be too slow to really benefit from HDDs that use the full 6GB/s.
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