Nvidia CEO attacks Intel Atom pricing strategy

It wasn't long before Nvidia's vocal Chief Executive, Jen-Hsun Huang, spoke up about Intel's Atom pricing strategy.

When the European Commission ruled that Intel was guilty of anti-competitive business practices last week, we were surprised that Nvidia didn’t add its own view of the announcement when AMD weighed in. But it wasn’t going to be long before someone at the company said something.

Not surprisingly, that someone was Jen-Hsung Huang, Nvidia’s CEO and President, who said Intel’s chip pricing “pretty unfair” in an interview with Reuters.

According to Huang, Intel sells an Atom processor on its own for $45, but sells Atom, the 945GSE IGP and ICH7 southbridge for a combined $25 to lure business away from its competitors.

After all, any manufacturer looking to use a third party chipset (such as Nvidia’s GeForce 9400M) with an Atom processor will be at a $20 disadvantage without factoring in the cost of the additional chipset.

We ought to be able to compete and serve that market,” said Huang. “I hope it doesn’t come down to [legal action]. We have to do whatever we have to do when the time comes. We really hope [Intel] will compete on a fair basis.[/i]”

Intel was quick to dismiss Huang’s comments and insisted that “we compete fairly.” The spokesperson continued by saying that Intel has never forced bundles onto OEMs and that they were free to choose to buy Atom on its own or as a processor/chipset bundle. “If you want to purchase the chipset, obviously there is better pricing,” he added.

We’ve asked Nvidia a number of questions about Intel’s Atom bundling strategy, but are yet to receive a response to any of our queries. It goes without saying though that we’re concerned that the price difference is too great to make Ion-based machines attractive – I guess we’ll find out specific pricing on Ion-based machines at Computex, but in the meantime we’ll keep our ears to the ground.

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Quote mjm25 19th May 2009, 14:53
it's artificial pricing on Intel's part... they are potentially making a loss on the atom + chipset, or put a massive mark up on the atom when sold singley, trying to recoup the market share lost to a rival chipset with increased revenue. i don't see it as anti competitive, intel is competing with a low price, so nVidia will have to compete on a variable of quality, as it has been bigging up HD playback and so on.
Quote badders 19th May 2009, 15:06
I suppose there's also some sort of clause that stops Manufacturers buying the Atom bundle and throwing away the 945/ICH7s.
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 19th May 2009, 15:20
Nividia does nothing "fair" too, selling a old videocard as new 4 times in a row. I call that misleading customers...
Quote perplekks45 19th May 2009, 16:08
But their just unfair to the customers, not other businesses. I think that's where they're coming from. ;)
Quote thehippoz 19th May 2009, 16:30
I saw nvidia ceo attacks and I wondered if I should even read this.. it's called karma huang! you withheld sli to your own chipsets and licensed it to intels skulltrail for a ridiculous amount of money

who's wearing the clownface now
Quote wafflesomd 19th May 2009, 18:01
So Intel is offering something for a low price and Nvidia is complaining? Or did I miss something.

Also, can someone please fill me in on this. "Nividia does nothing "fair" too, selling a old videocard as new 4 times in a row. I call that misleading customers..."

I hear people talk about that, but I seem to have missed the whole story.
Quote HourBeforeDawn 19th May 2009, 18:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by wafflesomd
So Intel is offering something for a low price and Nvidia is complaining? Or did I miss something.

Also, can someone please fill me in on this. "Nividia does nothing "fair" too, selling a old videocard as new 4 times in a row. I call that misleading customers..."

I hear people talk about that, but I seem to have missed the whole story.

8800GT -> 8800GTS -> 9800GT -> 9800GTX -> 9800GTX+ -> GTS250.

pretty much the same card over and over again
Quote bobwya 19th May 2009, 21:12
Personally I am not surprised that Intel are giving people money to take their chuffing ***** chipsets...

Bob
Quote bowman 19th May 2009, 23:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Quote:
Originally Posted by wafflesomd
So Intel is offering something for a low price and Nvidia is complaining? Or did I miss something.

Also, can someone please fill me in on this. "Nividia does nothing "fair" too, selling a old videocard as new 4 times in a row. I call that misleading customers..."

I hear people talk about that, but I seem to have missed the whole story.

8800GT -> 8800GTS -> 9800GT -> 9800GTX -> 9800GTX+ -> GTS250.

pretty much the same card over and over again

The 8800GT is a cut down 8800GTS and came after it, it's not the same card. It goes like this..

8800GTS (90nm cut-down 8800GTX) -> 8800GTS 512MB (same name, different card - 65nm, 128 shaders, but 256-bit memory bus) -> 9800GTX (pretty much the exact same thing as the 8800GTS 512MB) -> 9800GTX+ (55nm shrink of 9800GTX with zero changes otherwise) -> GTS250 (new name, new cooler, no changes from the + otherwise)
Quote dyzophoria 20th May 2009, 04:23
LOL @ Nvidia, Huang STFU before you eat out your own words ,lol
Quote perplekks45 20th May 2009, 09:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyzophoria
LOL @ Nvidia, Huang STFU before you eat out your own words ,lol
Those are the posts I live for. Short, to the point and informative.
Quote Chocobollz 20th May 2009, 12:56
Ooohh yesss~ Whoop his ass!! :p
Quote Red Eye 21st May 2009, 15:39
Looks like Intel have plans to make it even harder for Nvidia to squeeze into some Atom action.
Quote HourBeforeDawn 21st May 2009, 18:42
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Eye
Looks like Intel have plans to make it even harder for Nvidia to squeeze into some Atom action.

ya but it still doesnt really address the decoding issues that the netbooks can come across with higher bit-rate streams and video. Granted it doesnt state what type of GPU or its capabilities so I guess there is still a chance
Quote ch424 26th May 2009, 17:52
So why can't OEMs buy the $25 package and stick the excess chipset in the bin/on a different mobo?
Quote perplekks45 26th May 2009, 19:58
As mentioned before they most likely have to agree some kind of license agreement that makes that impossible.
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