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Trent Reznor rages against Apple censorship policy

Trent Reznor rages against Apple censorship policy

Apple says that the Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral features objectionable content, but doesn't say whether it means the song or the album.

The musical guru behind Nine Inch Nails, Trent Reznor, has publicly hit out at Apple after having a Nine Inch Nails iPhone app rejected by the company. Reznor published Apple’s rejection letter in full on the Nine Inch Nails forum over the weekend, revealing that Apple had spurned the app because it “contained objectionable content.”

Apple claims that the app, called nin: access, violates Section 3.3.12 from the iPhone SDK Agreement. This states that "applications must not contain any obscene, pornographic, offensive or defamatory content or materials of any kind (text, graphics, images, photographs, etc.), or other content or materials that in Apple's reasonable judgement may be found objectionable by iPhone or iPod touch users."

After investing a lot of time and resources into developing nin: access, the rejection has ignited the wrath of Reznor, who points out that “you can buy The Downward F***ing Spiral on iTunes, but you can't allow an iPhone app that may have a song with a bad word somewhere in it. Geez, what if someone in the forum in our app says F*** or C***? I suppose that also falls into indecent material. Hey Apple, I just got some SPAM about f***ing hot asian teens THROUGH YOUR MAIL PROGRAM. I just saw two guys having explicit anal sex right there in Safari! On my iPhone!”

In its letter to Reznor, Apple says that the objectionable content it’s referring to is "The Downward Spiral" but doesn’t provide any more detail. This, along with the censorship issue, has also irked Reznor. He points out that "The Downward Spiral the album is not available anywhere in the iPhone app. The song The Downward Spiral I believe is in a podcast that can be streamed to the app. Thanks Apple for the clear description of the problem - as in, what do you want us to change to get past your stupid f***ing standards?”

Despite laying into Apple’s censorship policy, Reznor is keen to point out that he still loves the iPhone, which he describes as the “most elegant, modern smartphone at this point in time.” He says that the device is “perfect for what we want to do with the NIN app - except for the ludicrous approval process, and that's what I want to draw attention to.”

“If Apple doesn't get it together," says Reznor, “we will most certainly make it [nin: access] available to the jailbreak community. I didn't invest in this app to see it languish on the sidelines from an idiotic policy while this tour is in full swing.”

This isn’t the first time that Apple’s policies on iPhone apps has caused a stir. In March, the company also rejected an update to the Twitter client Tweetie because its Twitter trend search view displayed “offensive language”. Of course, the offensive language wasn’t in the app, but just on Twitter itself, which brought the future of other iPhone Twitter apps into question too.

Does Apple need to revise its policies on “objectionable content” with regards to iPhone apps, and is Trent Reznor right to castigate the company for this? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Mankz 5th May 2009, 13:50 Quote
All hail the Trent.
Mentai 5th May 2009, 13:55 Quote
Wow I didn't know they were this stringent, it's a wonder there aren't more jailbroken phones...
Stormwulf 5th May 2009, 13:56 Quote
Trent should be god..... mans a genius.
Less said about Apple the better.
Gremlin 5th May 2009, 14:00 Quote
As much as i hate Trent Reznor with a passion, i couldnt agree with him more on this
drlecter 5th May 2009, 14:12 Quote
To be honest, I hope they keep it up and help kill their own brand.
AlexB 5th May 2009, 14:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gremlin
As much as i hate Trent Reznor with a passion, i couldnt agree with him more on this

Cool, when did you meet him?
p3n 5th May 2009, 14:21 Quote
His examples of bad things he can do made me laugh, almost like the extremes you'd expect from a child having an arguement :p

Apple screen the apps, big whoop - its not like its final, just change whatever is in breach and re-submit; im not aware of any cost implcations esp. with free apps - both sides are morons.
crazyceo 5th May 2009, 14:38 Quote
I think that was his problem, Apple haven't said what the specific reason for the ban is. It just said it's content wasn't appropriate but he is true in stating that you can access probably much worse on an iCrap or any other smartphone. Not sure we needed to read such a graphic explanation of what we could see though.
logan'srun 5th May 2009, 14:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by p3n

Apple screen the apps, big whoop - its not like its final, just change whatever is in breach and re-submit; im not aware of any cost implcations esp. with free apps - both sides are morons.

Yes, just like they screened the baby shaker app. . . you fail.

Reznor has every right to point out the inconsistencies with the apple policy, it's just another issue of people trying to police the internets
fodder 5th May 2009, 14:43 Quote
This does seem a bit one sided in favour of apple. As Reznor says, anything is allowed on the safari browser on the iPhone which is after all just another application accessing web content. So to block independant apps that access the same data is akin to stifling competition. The twitter situation highlights the ludicrousy of it.

Yet another step forward for apple to kill competition I suppose. No change there then.
perplekks45 5th May 2009, 14:44 Quote
He's nuts... again... this time without drugs.

Still TR >> God.
And he's right as well. ;)
Lepermessiah 5th May 2009, 14:46 Quote
apple stink IMO, sure they make some decent stuff, but their policies and their penchant for trying to contolr everything is crap, and why they will always remain a Niche in the PC world. Apple , one of the most overrated companies ever. Best thing about Apple is their marketing and advertising.
scarrmrcc 5th May 2009, 14:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by p3n
His examples of bad things he can do made me laugh, almost like the extremes you'd expect from a child having an arguement :p

Apple screen the apps, big whoop - its not like its final, just change whatever is in breach and re-submit; im not aware of any cost implcations esp. with free apps - both sides are morons.

that is Trent's issue, they said something NOT EVEN IN THE APP, is what the problem is. it looks like they are reading a book by it's cover... well not really... they are reading a book, by the cover a book by the same author, that was done years ago, but is a totally different book.
SBS 5th May 2009, 15:36 Quote
Just reward for With Teeth imo.
D-Cyph3r 5th May 2009, 15:42 Quote
Another reason to laugh at people who buy into "i" products.
Jenny_Y8S 5th May 2009, 16:00 Quote
Why don't apple just have a policy of blocking applications they deem a "bit crap"

That would then clear up all uncertainty, just be sure to make sure your app pleased some random jerkoff and you're on to a winner.

baby shaker = apple fail!
perplekks45 5th May 2009, 18:02 Quote
Well, NiN:Access is anything but stable but it could be a great application and I 100% agree with Jenny on everything mentioned. ;)

And with scarrmrcc of course.
ZERO <ibis> 5th May 2009, 18:13 Quote
Well maybe this will result in more companies just making products targeted at the jailbreak audience to bypass apple. It is crap like this as to why the only apple product I ever bought was a used imod (a modded 4g ipod photo by red wine audio) which I immediately rockboxed as to have nothing to do with apple.
Dreaming 5th May 2009, 22:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Best thing about Apple is their marketing and advertising.

Apple themselves even say far and away their most valuable asset is their brand.
thehippoz 5th May 2009, 23:32 Quote
apple probably thinking about kids, and then parents finding this rubbish on their iphone.. they don't want to roid rage anyone.. else how are they going to get away with selling their brand name and keeping that teen/starbucks market
The_Beast 5th May 2009, 23:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreaming
Apple themselves even say far and away their most valuable asset is their brand.

I wouldn't doubt it, Apple is where it is by it's name not it's products
SMIFFYDUDE 6th May 2009, 14:25 Quote
Just put in 'i' before any swear word.
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