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Rumour: Nvidia working on GTX 295 with single PCB

Rumour: Nvidia working on GTX 295 with single PCB

Expreview has published this picture of the new GTX 295, which it says features a single PCB and a new cooler.

Although Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 295 looks like a single unit with a huge cooler, anyone who’s seen the insides of one will know that the card’s two GPUs are in fact mounted on separate PCBs. Unlike the Radeon HD 4870 X2, the GTX 295 really is two graphics cards sandwiched together, but the word is that Nvidia is working on a new version of the GTX 295 that mounts the two GPUs on a single PCB.

According to Expreview, Nvidia plans to launch a single-PCB implementation of the GTX 295 in a couple of months. The site has a picture of the reference design for the card (right), which it says has a PCB design codenamed P658. Comparatively, the codename for the original GeForce GTX 295 PCB was P656, says the site.

In terms of size, Expreview reports that the length of the PCB remains at 266.7mm, and that card’s clock speeds will also be the same as the original GTX 295. The site also notes that the card will feature eight-pin and six-pin power connectors, which was the same configuration on the original card.

There’s no word about whether the new GPUs will be fabricated on a 40nm process, however, which could result in the GPUs putting out less heat and consuming less power. The backplate design also appears to have changed slightly, with the DVI connectors now on the left rather than the right. The main advantages of the new PCB appear to be a simplified design that will be cheaper to manufacture and easier to cool efficiently, although Expreview claims that the price of the GTX 295 won’t change with the introduction of the new PCB.

According to Expreview, engineering samples of the new GTX 295 will be finished in April, and the finished cards will be officially launched in May. If this rumour is to be believed, would the single-PCB design make more sense than the original two-PCB design? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Mankz 26th March 2009, 14:56 Quote
Erm? Why? Whats wrong with the existing 295?? Surely the R&D money used in this could go on the GTX300 series...
ChaosDefinesOrder 26th March 2009, 15:05 Quote
hehe amusing though: double SLi fingers to allow this "new" 295 to be used in Tri-SLi....
Hugo 26th March 2009, 15:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mankz
Erm? Why? Whats wrong with the existing 295?? Surely the R&D money used in this could go on the GTX300 series...

It could, but it doesn't take that much money to change the labels on the 2xx-series to have a 3 in front instead ;)
Turbotab 26th March 2009, 15:07 Quote
"although Expreview claims that the price of the GTX 295 won’t change with the introduction of the new PCB." >:(
Dr. Strangelove 26th March 2009, 16:07 Quote
Will it be slimmer? I guess that would help cooling it better in SLI setups...

I guess it is also possible that it will be easier/cheaper to produce if it's one PCB
tank_rider 26th March 2009, 16:11 Quote
I'm pretty sure they'll be different groups working on the gpu part to the pcd design. Also this could be a by product of trying out dual gpus on a single card that will be adopted by the 3xx series and so will be a good way to make a lower risk smaller step implementation.

I'm all for cheaper production costs as that'll allow further price drops in the future. It'll also help ensure that nVidia survive the recession which is a good thing.
Turbotab 26th March 2009, 16:12 Quote
Flash of product inspiration, a dual gpu pcb, does that mean Nvidia could produce a Quad gpu card?
Maybe they could call it the GTX 295 STFU
dyzophoria 26th March 2009, 16:20 Quote
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"although Expreview claims that the price of the GTX 295 won’t change with the introduction of the new PCB."

I was thinking this was the only reason they are shifting it to a single pcb. I guess not, they just want more bucks from the 295 I guess
Xtrafresh 26th March 2009, 16:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Flash of product inspiration, a dual gpu pcb, does that mean Nvidia could produce a Quad gpu card?
Maybe they could call it the GTX 295 STFU
LOL, if they do, i'm buying it and baking a cheesecake from it!
Turbotab 26th March 2009, 16:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
LOL, if they do, i'm buying it and baking a cheesecake from it!

Nvidia launches quad-gpu card, cue hundreds of forums telling people that you'll need a 1500W PSU to run it!
Jozo 26th March 2009, 17:04 Quote
Finally!! I always wondered why do they use the two PCB design
which is harder to cool and when watercooling it you have holes in your card.
Goty 26th March 2009, 18:21 Quote
Meh, the GTX295 is irrelevant. NVIDIA will produce another 5,000-10,000 or so units and then it will go the way of the Dodo, just like the original 295 and the 9800GX2 before it.

I wonder how many 4870X2s ATI has sold?
Jerz 26th March 2009, 18:35 Quote
Does this mean we wont be blessed with the next generation arc till windows 7 comes around?
perplekks45 26th March 2009, 18:41 Quote
If I didn't turn blind without noticing it this is a 3D-render not a photo.
HourBeforeDawn 26th March 2009, 19:12 Quote
WOW nVidia FINALLY decides to get smart and realize how stupid a dual pcb design really is, who knows I never took nVidia as a company that really learns from their mistakes.
Redbeaver 26th March 2009, 21:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by ChaosDefinesOrder
hehe amusing though: double SLi fingers to allow this "new" 295 to be used in Tri-SLi....

rofl with 3 of those double-gpu... whats that? sixtuplet-SLI? it'll be ridiculously fun to see...
Nexxo 26th March 2009, 21:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
Flash of product inspiration, a dual gpu pcb, does that mean Nvidia could produce a Quad gpu card?
Maybe they could call it the GTX 295 STFU

More like the GTX 295 CUDA MELT.

Toasty.
Slyr7.62 26th March 2009, 21:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Redbeaver
rofl with 3 of those double-gpu... whats that? sixtuplet-SLI? it'll be ridiculously fun to see...
How many AMD fan-persons would cry if 3 of these went against 3 4870-X2's? :) . Come on, that's fair isnt? 6 GPU's against 6 GPU's. :p

Anyways, a single PCB would make Thermalright able to make a HR-03 "GX2" quicker.
Richh999 27th March 2009, 00:16 Quote
I'm thinking that as these would be single slot once water cooled putting a pair of them on an i7 Asus Rampage II Gene in a Sugo SG03 with a tv tuner and X-FI titanium..
That would be a mean Lan rig or home theatre PC..
[USRF]Obiwan 27th March 2009, 09:33 Quote
All overkill crap....
Burnout21 27th March 2009, 14:00 Quote
looks like the return of the 7900GTX cooler to me. Oh how i hate them.

Maybe the single PCB will reduce production costs....
SuperNova 28th March 2009, 23:45 Quote
I can only see two reasons to create this card, either its a practice run for the next generation (implying that nvidia will rely on multi-gpu solutions like AMD) or that the next generation of cards will be delayed for quiet some time.

I cant see why they would make this move based on increasing revenue over the dual-pcb card. Since there will probably be a very limited amount of these cards sold before the next generation (if the next generation is not delayed).
HourBeforeDawn 29th March 2009, 00:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by SuperNova
I can only see two reasons to create this card, either its a practice run for the next generation (implying that nvidia will rely on multi-gpu solutions like AMD) or that the next generation of cards will be delayed for quiet some time.

I cant see why they would make this move based on increasing revenue over the dual-pcb card. Since there will probably be a very limited amount of these cards sold before the next generation (if the next generation is not delayed).

nah they are making this New GTX 295 and then like nVidia style call it the GTS 3XXX lol
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