Cryo launches fastest UK retail PC

The custom phase change cooler underneath the Cryo Velox cools the Core i7 CPU down to -40°C.

Benchmark crushing is a hobby that’s usually left up to extreme overclocking communities and the more eccentric R&D guys at motherboard manufacturers, with retailers standing a comfortable distance from the dry ice. However, UK PC builder Cryo has just bucked that trend by announcing that its new Velox PC will feature a Core i7 965 Extreme CPU that it’s managed to overclock to 4.8GHz with a custom phase change cooler.

The result is an incredibly fast PC that’s made a mockery of the benchmarks from our sister title, Custom PC. The Cryo PC is already at the top of the leaderboard with an amazing score of 2,813. This is 223 points ahead of the nearest competitor; a Core i7 965 Extreme overclocked to 4.65GHz by Barron_Greenback from the UK benchmarking community Benchtec.

The machine is an update to the previous record-breaking Cryo Velox, which was overclocked to 4.65GHz using water-cooling. The revised Velox simply adds a custom-designed phase change cooler to the system to cool the CPU, while the water-cooling loop still handles the rest of the cooling duties, including the chipset and a GeForce GTX 295 graphics card.

Explaining the difference between the Cryo cooler and an off-the-shelf cooler such as a VapoChill unit, Cryo’s Alan Johnson said that "we use different gases and a more powerful compressor. It’s something that we’ve had to work rather hard on in the last three months, as the new Core i7 puts out quite a lot of heat." Johnson says that the Cryo cooler manages to keep the CPU temperature down to -40°C, and says that it doesn’t make too much noise either.

The 4.8GHz overclock was achieved by adjusting both the Quick Path Interconnect frequency and the multiplier, and the prototype machine used for testing also featured 3GB of Corsair PC3-16000 overclocked to 2.133GHz. So could customers buy a Cryo Velox PC readily overclocked to 4.8GHz. "They could," says Johnson, adding that "we will provide profiles at those kinds of speeds."

However, he notes that the speeds used to get high benchmark speeds will result in a machine that’s "right on the edge of stability; you can’t guarantee that it will be stable for everything you might want to do with it." Johnson says that commercial machines are more likely to be clocked at a still impressive frequency of 4.5GHz.

Meanwhile, a 120GB OCZ Core V2 SSD handles storage duties, and this is bolstered by a RAID 0 array of two 1TB Seagate 7200.12 drives. The Velox will also come with Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit, although the benchmarks were run using the 32-bit version of Windows XP.

The Velox is housed inside a modded Lian Li A70 case, which has been adjusted to accommodate the phase change cooler underneath, while a triple-radiator sits on the top.

The Cryo Velox costs £3,995 for the default spec and can be ordered from here. Is this a fair price for an incredibly fast PC? Would you rather buy a pre-overclocked machine or overclock it yourself? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
Quote g3n3tiX 26th March 2009, 17:04
My god. Quite impressive.

3GB of RAM ? For THAT price ? Huge meh.
Quote Tim S 26th March 2009, 17:05
yeah, the first thing I'd do is get 6GB in there. My desktop at work has 8GB of RAM and I'm currently using 52 percent of it!
Quote p3n 26th March 2009, 17:05
I dont see (room for) a hardware raid card, so isnt that raid array eating cpu cycles? :> (assuming the raid 0 is a typo, who wants 2tb of non-redundant storage?)
Quote Mankz 26th March 2009, 17:06
£1700 for watercooling and a phase unit?

Yeah, right.
Quote Turbotab 26th March 2009, 17:09
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
yeah, the first thing I'd do is get 6GB in there. My desktop at work has 8GB of RAM and I'm currently using 52 percent of it!

What programs / how many tabs do you have open?
Quote HugoB 26th March 2009, 17:12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbotab
What programs / how many tabs do you have open?
All of them - it's scary watching Tim work.
Quote Turbotab 26th March 2009, 17:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoB
All of them - it's scary watching Tim work.

And woman say men cannot multitask!
Quote mclean007 26th March 2009, 17:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by p3n
I dont see (room for) a hardware raid card, so isnt that raid array eating cpu cycles? :> (assuming the raid 0 is a typo, who wants 2tb of non-redundant storage?)
RAID-1 introduces negligible CPU overhead - it doesn't have to calculate any parity or stripe any data, it just writes simultaneously to two drives and reads from them alternately. If you click through to the build page, you'll see that RAID-0 is indeed the default config for the storage array (though you can have RAID-1 instead if you prefer - I would.

Also, the default spec (£3,995 as quoted) includes "6GB (3x2GB) Corsair PC3-14400 DDR3 low latency memory"
Quote crompers 26th March 2009, 17:34
i wonder how long £3,995 could keep you signed up to OnLive for?

lol
Quote devdevil85 26th March 2009, 17:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by crompers
i wonder how long £3,995 could keep you signed up to OnLive for?

lol
Given that it works as advertised, but good question. We won't know until Xmas I guess.
Quote perplekks45 26th March 2009, 18:15
Takes away the fun. Still impressive.
Quote Buzzons 26th March 2009, 18:40
I'd buy it... means if it goes wrong yuou can call them up and complain. If a phase unit you put in goes wrong.. that's a LOT of kit dead.

But then again, i have 2 cpus.. so would need even more kit :(
Quote HourBeforeDawn 26th March 2009, 19:01
Its a decent system but I just cant get past how awful their site design is ~_~
Quote Red 5 26th March 2009, 19:32
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Originally Posted by g3n3tiX
3GB of RAM ?

Behold!
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Originally Posted by Article
...although the benchmarks were run using the 32-bit version of Windows XP
Quote Skill3d 26th March 2009, 20:27
32-bit (to 3GB memory) or 64 bit (to 24GB memory) optional
Quote reflux 26th March 2009, 21:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Its a decent system but I just cant get past how awful their site design is ~_~

^^this. It looks terrible, they need to get a designer in there.

Regardless, seeing this PC makes my i7 @ 3.8ghz feel decidedly paltry :(
Quote pimonserry 26th March 2009, 21:47
That's still cheaper than the highest you can spec a Dell XPS machine, and yet probably twice as powerful (and cooling-wise, FAR more impressive).

Dell are stupid.

Anyway, like most of you have said, 3GB RAM?! What a joke.

And you just know they can push it to 5GHz really ;)
Quote Ryu_ookami 26th March 2009, 22:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
yeah, the first thing I'd do is get 6GB in there. My desktop at work has 8GB of RAM and I'm currently using 52 percent of it!

What he isn't telling you is that 51% of that 8GB is being used to back-up his porn
Quote myhottrashcan 27th March 2009, 06:42
Phase change units are nifty as a proof of concept, but they are noisy - the equivalent of a small refrigerator running all the time. It gets old fast.
Quote crompers 27th March 2009, 08:47
but when people say "whats that noise?" you can just say 'thats my phase change unit'. instant. stud.
Quote kenco_uk 27th March 2009, 10:45
All very well and good. But can it play Crysis?
Quote mclean007 27th March 2009, 12:13
And more importantly, does it blend?
Quote SnizzelmyNizzel 27th March 2009, 13:14
Very nice :)

I am pretty sure any company that are offering a "Beast" like this to the retail market has not just chucked a few bits into a box and gave it power :P I wont be surprised if it has spent hundreds of hours churning out results with the Crisis bech tools and all the blend tools. Ohh and bonus it has a fridge I can keep my beer cold too :)

Gief Please SANTA!
Quote kylew 27th March 2009, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Turbotab
And woman say men cannot multitask!

I reckon the women multi-tasking thing is just a myth women refer to when you annoy them. :p

I've lost count of the amount of times that I've heard a woman say 'wait there don't do that I'm trying to concentrate'

I find it totally bizarre that some one can't concentrate on something unless there is *insert requirement*.

'Argh I can't do my work because there's too much noise' is one of the most common I hear.

I can work in most noise environments.

Oh, and I'm like Tim S with my RAM and RAM usage. I've got 8GB of RAM and I'm regularly using 50-80% of it because I'm doing some heavy multi-tasking.

/End of Women versus Men rant :p
Quote kylew 27th March 2009, 16:54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu_ookami
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
yeah, the first thing I'd do is get 6GB in there. My desktop at work has 8GB of RAM and I'm currently using 52 percent of it!

What he isn't telling you is that 51% of that 8GB is being used to back-up his porn

You back things up to RAM now?! :o
Quote Grinch123456 28th March 2009, 03:41
Time for the inevitable "other things I could do with 4000 quid" part of the thread.
1) Buy a classic car
2) Go to college for a semester or two
3) Buy a vastly cheaper computer that could do practically the same stuff and spend the remaining 2-3 grand on things
4) Invest in stocks and get a larger return
5) Buy a lot of hookers
6) Buy a lot of booze
7) Buy a lot of boozed-up hookers
The possibilities are so vast!
Quote rjkoneill 29th March 2009, 12:46
well that knocks me down to number 20!!!
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