Intel wants us dead, says AMD

Author: Ben Hardwidge
Published: 19th March 2009
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Intel wants us dead, says AMD

AMD claims that Intel is more interested in killing off AMD than it is about protecting its intellectual property.

Although Intel says that its recent threat to pull AMD’s rights and licenses relates purely to a desire to protect its intellectual property, AMD claims that there is a much more nefarious purpose to the threat; Intel really wants to get AMD out of the picture altogether.

Speaking to Cnet AMD’s general counsel, Harry Wolin, claimed that "In their [Intel’s] perfect world, we wouldn't exist. If they had to deal with the government every now and then, that's fine, and they're still extracting monopoly profits from the industry."

Wolin also said that "I don't agree with the premise that they have to have us and they think they have to have us,” referring to Intel’s need for a third-party, licensed x86 CPU manufacturer, adding that “I think they would absolutely like us dead."

Last week, AMD issued a statement saying that “Intel’s action is an attempt to distract the world from the global antitrust scrutiny it faces.” The company also added that “should this matter proceed to litigation, we will prove that Intel fabricated this claim to interfere with our commercial relationships and thus has violated the cross-license.”

However, Intel still insists that the threat to pull AMD’s licenses directly relates to the creation of Global Foundries, which Intel says it doesn’t recognise as a subsidiary under the terms of its patent cross-license agreement with AMD. Speaking to Cnet, Intel’s Chuck Mulloy said "It's nice of them to try to speak for us. AMD has been a competitor for almost 40 years in one form or another.” He also stated that “This is not about AMD going away. This is about our rights and AMD's rights under the patent cross-license agreement."

Do you think Intel wants to kill off AMD completely, or is it just trying to protect its intellectual property? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
Quote Xtrafresh 19th March 2009, 10:27
As long as there are no real good games coming out, they try to entertain us with a soap opera? :|
Quote n3mo 19th March 2009, 10:35
Obvious statement is obvious. Intel wants to rule the world, it was always like that. Intel also wants to make everyone look the other way while they sign some more illegal and anti-competitive deals. You'd have to be blind and dumb not to notice it at least 7 years ago.
Quote wafflesomd 19th March 2009, 10:41
Can't wait until neither of them do anything to each other related to this article. Like they never do...

Back and forth like a bunch of idiots.
Quote ChaosDefinesOrder 19th March 2009, 10:50
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Originally Posted by Article
"Intel still insists that the threat to pull AMD’s licenses directly relates to the creation of Global Foundries"

Sounds like Intel were just waiting for an excuse to jump on.

Then again, I have an i7 sitting in my rig, the only problem is that if AMD do go under, there's no-one to keep Intel's prices in check...
Quote tominated 19th March 2009, 10:58
of course they are trying to kill off amd. they wouldn't care if amd weren't as big as it is (if it was like via for example).
Quote perplekks45 19th March 2009, 11:16
Of course they want them dead or even better, buy them. Every single company wants their competition dead. The only difference lies in how they try to achieve that.
Quote Dreaming 19th March 2009, 14:34
I think it's pathetic actually they're both the champions of the high technology IT industry and they are just sniping at each other like schoolkids in the playground.
Quote ssj12 19th March 2009, 14:48
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Originally Posted by ChaosDefinesOrder
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Originally Posted by Article
"Intel still insists that the threat to pull AMD’s licenses directly relates to the creation of Global Foundries"

Sounds like Intel were just waiting for an excuse to jump on.

Then again, I have an i7 sitting in my rig, the only problem is that if AMD do go under, there's no-one to keep Intel's prices in check...

Not true, VIA might be able to start building some market share...
Quote devdevil85 19th March 2009, 16:20
F*** Intel. AMD-support fo' life! Intel will do anything it can to keep them down and within their grasp.
Quote perplekks45 19th March 2009, 16:39
In the end AMD will just continue to aim for the entry and mid-market segments and leave the high-end to Intel.
They just can't compete with the raw power of Intel's line-up at the moment but, as with their graphics cards, I don't think they want to.
Quote pimonserry 19th March 2009, 17:21
I really, really hope this doesn't bring AMD down. Intel are being bitchy and dumb here, it's uncalled for and uncompetitive.
If AMD back down and more corporate jiggling of 'subsidiaries' etc is required, I reckon it could bring AMD down :(
Quote Xir 19th March 2009, 17:24
...weellll, if Intel wanted AMD out of the way, they could just buy them rightout...
But that would probably be too obvious ;)
Quote cheeriokilla 19th March 2009, 17:57
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
In the end AMD will just continue to aim for the entry and mid-market segments and leave the high-end to Intel.
They just can't compete with the raw power of Intel's line-up at the moment but, as with their graphics cards, I don't think they want to.

You're saying AMD's graphics cards can't compete with what?
Quote -EVRE- 19th March 2009, 18:08
I'm so proud of myself for buying AMD all these years :D
I recently supported them by buying a 940 black edition and AMD based motherboard.
I really hope their next gen GFX card is killer too, I'll be buying that :)

I hope AMD can come up with the capital to buy back the amount of the foundry they need to, to get Intel to shut it..
Quote DXR_13KE 19th March 2009, 18:35
i think i will get the popcorn...
Quote perplekks45 19th March 2009, 19:05
What I'm saying is that AMD doesn't try too hard to release the fastest single graphics card and leaves that to nVidia. The 4870 is an amazingly fast card, yes, but there are faster cards out there. And AMD don't seem to think it's overly important to beat them.
Quote SyxPak 19th March 2009, 20:46
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
What I'm saying is that AMD doesn't try too hard to release the fastest single graphics card and leaves that to nVidia. The 4870 is an amazingly fast card, yes, but there are faster cards out there. And AMD don't seem to think it's overly important to beat them.

Because top performance is a niche within a niche. It's bragging rights and mindshare, which means nothing if they don't sell. As 'the internets' segue into mainstream life, and as performance requirements plateau somewhat, people buy on price and stickers.

Whether the sticker is true (:)) or not only matters to those who care. If it does the job and doesn't break.
Look at netbooks and miniITX.

Oh, and revise price-performance battles for nVidia, ATi, 3Dfx, Videologic etc. and what was going on with their respective chip fabrication and engineering processes to cause each win or loss.

As for Intel, fair play on making x86 run this long, but it's equine necrophelia at this point. The best thing about open source beardiness is that you can run what you want on what you like. The MS/x86 path is nolonger the only viable one.
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 19th March 2009, 21:20
I want the fastest video card, yet I can only pay for the fourth fastest card. I want the fastest CPU, yet I can only pay for the eleventh fastest CPU. The company who can deliver me these options is AMD
Quote yanglu 19th March 2009, 21:31
Will support AMD from now on because of this. Intel's dirty tactics are disgusting!
Quote SuperNova 19th March 2009, 21:37
I think Intel could be subjected to loads of problems from various organization (monopoly and so on) if they take this too far.

Lets take an example so you get my point:

"Company X" invents a thing and gives loads of companies access to this technology so that this particular technology becomes the standard (which would be much harder or impossible if they kept it for them self in the first time). When it becomes the norm on the market "Company X" starts to revoke the access/licenses so they can get the whole cake. Fair?

I just used this as an example to explain my point and its not completely accurate to the story about Intel vs AMD.
Quote Fisher. 19th March 2009, 21:39
AMD shareholder cheesecake! Not doing particularly well ATM (nor are most stocks), but it was purely out of support for an awesome company. Still have a FX-60 sitting in my old rig, although it has been demoted to "Father's Linux box"
Quote mayakovski 19th March 2009, 23:32
Well Duh!

What did AMD think, that Intel wanted to be Best Friends Forever? If AMD just not figured out that Intel was trying to take them down then they deserve to fail for being to amazingly stupid.
Quote kenco_uk 19th March 2009, 23:45
http://serverrunning.com/waahmbulance.jpg
Quote perplekks45 19th March 2009, 23:47
I know it's a niche and I understand AMD but many fan boys are annoyed by this move.
Quote naokaji 20th March 2009, 00:50
lol wait? AMD is surprised that a Company wants its competition to go the way of the dodo?
Quote cyrilthefish 20th March 2009, 01:03
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Originally Posted by tominated
of course they are trying to kill off amd. they wouldn't care if amd weren't as big as it is (if it was like via for example).
They've allready tried to kill off Via with the same x86 licence methods as well...

**** you, you patent trolling monopolistic *******'s ;)

I must say, this kind of thing heavily dictates my personal IT spending...

Exactly why i'd never buy intel/sony/apple products unless there's absolutely no choice...
If nobody supports the underdog to keep these evil anti-consumer companies in check, who will?
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