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Guitar Hero renders mice redundant?

Guitar Hero renders mice redundant?

Could the mouse be made redundant within the next three years? Some people seem to think so.

According to analysts, how you interact with your computer in the future could be a radically different experience than it is now and the days of the mouse and keyboard could be very numbered indeed. Want proof? Then look no farther than Guitar Hero, apparently.

According to a piece over on the BBC, analysts from Gartner predict that the mouse may be rendered redundant within three to five years based on the success of custom peripherals such as those seen in Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

Instead, the somewhat hasty analysts seem to think that the future will involve "gestural computer mechanisms like touch screens and facial recognition devices."

Thankfully though, there is a voice of reason to all this and the admittedly biased Rory Dooley of Logitech could be heard piping up in favour of the mouse.

"The devices we use have been modified for our changing lifestyles but it doesn't negate the value of the mouse," Mr Dooley explained.

Dooley pointed out that, since the majority of the world still has to get online with decent connections then the gloomy predictions for the mouse are wildly off target.

"Bringing technology, education and information to these parts of the world will be done by accessing web browsers and doing that in the ways that we are familiar with today and that is using a mouse.

"There are around one billion people online but the world's population is over five billion,
" he said.

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Timmy_the_tortoise 18th July 2008, 12:48 Quote
Absolute bollocks.
Delphium 18th July 2008, 12:50 Quote
^ What he said ^
sotu1 18th July 2008, 12:53 Quote
^What Timmeh said^
Jordan Wise 18th July 2008, 13:02 Quote
the technology section of the bbc news is an absolute joke, full stop
Silver51 18th July 2008, 13:04 Quote
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...According to a piece over on the BBC...

The BBC stopped using fact in their news articles decades ago.
pistol_pete 18th July 2008, 13:06 Quote
Sure, my Razer Deathadder is wetting it's little black rubberised pants at this news. Sure.
scarrmrcc 18th July 2008, 13:16 Quote
yep, i just finished playing half-life 2 using only a scanner cat (remember those stupid things?) and a guitar hero lespaul.

no mouse or keyboard for me....
Paradigm Shifter 18th July 2008, 13:17 Quote
*also agrees with Timmy_the_tortoise*
M4RTIN 18th July 2008, 13:40 Quote
where do i get a dead mouse with a wheel in it? all i have here is a rabbit with a joystick in its back :-(
sotu1 18th July 2008, 13:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by M4RTIN
where do i get a dead mouse with a wheel in it? all i have here is a rabbit with a joystick in its back :-(

there's a modding guide in the forums, check it out:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=doesnotexist
tech3312 18th July 2008, 14:11 Quote
COMPLETE BULLSHIT computer mouse had been evolving since the computer was made and will just continue to stay the same function the article about mice redudant COMPLETE BULLCRAP
Thacrudd 18th July 2008, 14:28 Quote
3-5 years? not quite. Reminds me of that Star Trek movie
knoj 18th July 2008, 15:07 Quote
The mouse didn't replace the keyboard... I don't think much will replace the mouse, we'll just have more things to buy and use.
Arkanrais 18th July 2008, 15:52 Quote
yeah, I agree they're talking crap. not happening. you could replace your mouse with a touch screen, but how cheap is a mouse compared to a cheap touch sensitive tablet? let alone a freaking touch sensitive LCD, those things cost thousands for a 22" (and I'm currently eying up a 4x5.5" tablet for around $60. compare that to a cheap mouse for $10 or $20).
in next weeks article; in 20 years time, everyone will be replacing their current limbs with artificial super limbs with built in cup holders and mini microwaves for heating pies on the go.
Cobalt 18th July 2008, 18:08 Quote
Actually replacing limbs isn't too far off. With all the soldiers injured by the iraq war, the American DoD is pouring a lot of money into prosthetic technology. Its getting to pretty advanced stages.
Veles 18th July 2008, 21:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Arkanrais
you could replace your mouse with a touch screen, but how cheap is a mouse compared to a cheap touch sensitive tablet? let alone a freaking touch sensitive LCD

Well I have a tablet and it wasn't that expensive, but I rarely use it, it's only any good if you actually holding the laptop like a pad of paper. Trying to use the touch screen while it's in the normal position isn't very practical and results in a sore arm after not long.

The mouse and keyboard can never be completely replaced, as good as tablets are, I would rather set it up like a regular laptop most of the time since I find typing much easier than writing.
SNIPERMikeUK 18th July 2008, 22:21 Quote
If this is true I will eat a real mouse... Maybe we will finally get rid of the old PS2 ports on main boards as everything is geared towards USB now.
hitman012 18th July 2008, 22:42 Quote
The cursory mention of Guitar Hero in that article hardly justifies the title of this news article :|. The analysts seem much more interested in facial/gesture recognition technologies than guitar controllers.
Liquid K9 19th July 2008, 01:41 Quote
dont you just love it when "experts" jump on the bandwaggon because of a new fad

gestures have existed for ages, they arent a solution to the entire human-computer-interface paradigm. and neither is touch screen.

Human-Device-Interfacing is the most important, but least understood aspect of technology these days. companys are bought and sold on this alone - the ipod anyone? its not revolutionary, never really was, in any aspect other than being easy to use. The same comparison could be made for Microsoft Windows in the OS space.

I think its going to be a very long time before anything replaces the keyboard and/or mouse - and when it does happen, it'll be something ground breaking. not something thats been around for yonks, that nobody really cares about. And more importantly it'll work accross the board - touch screens and guestures may work for general computer use (internet, wordprocessing etc) but its nigh on useless for gaming.

Perhaps the next step is directly interfacing with a persons brain? its completely plausible, its already been done. But it would need to reach a point where the user doesnt have to wear a skullcap, undergo months of training, or have a chip implanted in their brain.
dr-strangelove 19th July 2008, 01:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Liquid K9

Perhaps the next step is directly interfacing with a persons brain? its completely plausible, its already been done. But it would need to reach a point where the user doesnt have to wear a skullcap, undergo months of training, or have a chip implanted in their brain.

I don't think I would ever allow a pc to interface directly with my brain, aside from matrix-esque possibilities what happens when you interface with windows and your brain crashes because it doesn't have drivers for this piece of hardware?
nakchak 19th July 2008, 02:05 Quote
dunno if anyone else has had the pleasure of using a gyromouse b4?

but we got some in the office the other day and i have to say i like them a lot

imagine a wii controller mixed with a mouse and ur bang on the money, when mouse is on desk it works like a normal optical, pick it up and it becomes wii controller like

now just waiting fo rboss to go on holiday so that we can get a TF2 session on the go ;-).....

though tbh a mouse is good enough for most things, otherwise trackballs, pucks and tablets would reign supreme, maybe when voice recognition just works and requires < 3mins config then gesteral input would seem like a good idea, but you would still need to get people out from behind there desks...
Liquid K9 19th July 2008, 02:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by dr-strangelove
I don't think I would ever allow a pc to interface directly with my brain, aside from matrix-esque possibilities what happens when you interface with windows and your brain crashes because it doesn't have drivers for this piece of hardware?

um... thats not how i expect it to work. more like it reads your brain signals externally like with a skullcap, except sans the cap. theres no actual signals being sent to the brain. yet.
stephen2002 19th July 2008, 02:56 Quote
My Wacom tablet pretty much replaced my mouse. I only use the mouse in FPS games. RTS games I prefer the tablet but usually most full-screen 3D apps go nuts when I try to use the pen.
Silver51 19th July 2008, 14:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by stephen2002
My Wacom tablet pretty much replaced my mouse. I only use the mouse in FPS games. RTS games I prefer the tablet but usually most full-screen 3D apps go nuts when I try to use the pen.

Same here, it's more natural to use for everyday tasks, where the mouse is only used for gaming. Touch screen or gyro technology is not the way forward for mainstream PC interface because of a lack of accuracy. You wouldn't want to FPS or use Photoshop with those kind of inputs. Besides, touch screen = fingerprints.
<A88> 19th July 2008, 16:14 Quote
3-5 years sounds about right. I'm not saying we won't be using mice after that time (such a claim would be absurd) but I'd argue that it won't be marketed or included as the primary input method in most devices by then. Don't forget people, this is the tech market and things move _very_ smart. If we consider how popular touch interfaces have become in just a year on the phone market, and then products such as the HP Touchsmart bringing the same technology to the desktop market, I'm sure it won't be long before better input technology has been applied to every computing paradigm. As I said, I'm not expecting the mouse to be killed off in 3-5 years as I still expect it to be used by 80-90% of people; but I think we're finally finding new and better ways to interact with devices easily.
ShredMachine 19th July 2008, 20:55 Quote
Lets see here. I can move my fingertips less than 2 inches and do everything I want, or I can move my entire arm and probably upper body also, to accomplish the EXACT SAME THING.

Yeah. Real efficient progress there.
D3s3rt_F0x 20th July 2008, 11:34 Quote
Playing an FPS with a guitar hero controller would certainly be intresting to say the least
Techno-Dann 20th July 2008, 20:50 Quote
I would love to see "gestural computer mechanisms like touch screens and facial recognition devices" that are intuitive, cheap, and powerful enough to:

- edit a 10,000 entry spreadsheet
- fix a computer that won't boot a GUI
- easily navigate a novel-length text document
- communicate clearly with people across the world
- beat Portal
- and do it all without changing devices.

The mouse and keyboard are a tremendously powerful interface for today's computer-user paradigm.
Smilodon 20th July 2008, 21:36 Quote
it seems like those who wrote that article believe that computers are used only for gaming and entertainment.


Sure, there are some neat HID devices out there, but most have specific uses. Touchscreens for handheld devices, gyro controllers for gaming and 3d modelling and so on...

I would never replace my primary monitor with a touchscreen. My arm would die after half a day. Also, I don't want fingerprints on a monitor used to edit pictures.

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Originally Posted by nakchak
dunno if anyone else has had the pleasure of using a gyromouse b4?

but we got some in the office the other day and i have to say i like them a lot

imagine a wii controller mixed with a mouse and ur bang on the money, when mouse is on desk it works like a normal optical, pick it up and it becomes wii controller like

now just waiting fo rboss to go on holiday so that we can get a TF2 session on the go ;-).....

though tbh a mouse is good enough for most things, otherwise trackballs, pucks and tablets would reign supreme, maybe when voice recognition just works and requires < 3mins config then gesteral input would seem like a good idea, but you would still need to get people out from behind there desks...

I think Logitech have something like this as well. :) Looks interesting.
Silver51 21st July 2008, 08:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Smilodon
... gyro controllers for gaming and 3d modelling and so on...

We have a whole department who use Gyration mice. While they can be used both on a surface and in the air, they are frustratingly inaccurate. Like using the Wiimote and nunchuck to play CSS. They're mostly used for making presentations in the classroom.

The trouble with many alternative interface methods are that they're uncomfortable. Prolonged arm waggling, finger-sliding and eyeballing your computer puts unnecessary strain on your body.
Liquid K9 21st July 2008, 10:58 Quote
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Prolonged arm waggling, finger-sliding and eyeballing your computer puts unnecessary strain on your body.
Anyone else get turned on by that concept?

I kid, I kid.

This is the problem we have now where more advanced physical interfaces start having diminishing returns.
pillow 21st July 2008, 20:12 Quote
its just an advertisement for that gay ass game.
tranc3 26th November 2008, 00:34 Quote
the only change i see happening that quick is maybe better mice, but not replacing them but improving them, same with keyboards.
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