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Sony making collapsable PS3 controller

Sony making collapsable PS3 controller

Sony is working on a third generation of PS3 controllers, but has yet to announce anything.

Sony is reportedly working on a new PlayStation 3 controller it seems - the third controller to appear for the Blu-Ray playing games console after the original SixAxis controller and later DualShock. The new controller is expected to break apart in some form, creating two halves which can be held and wielded independantly.

The two halves of the new controller will feature an accelerometer each, allowing the Playstation 3 pad to effectively break into two seperate motion-sensing controllers similar to the Wiimote according to GI.biz.

Sony has yet to release any official comment on the planned controller, but with E3 looming and Sony still closely attached to the ESA it does seem likely that the console maker will announce something at E3.

While originally the PS3 launched with a SixAxis controller to give motion-sensitive inputs to the player this was only used in a few games and was realistically quite limited - especially since the controller didn't have rumble features, though a later controller added this in.

The PlayStation 3 is now the de facto Blu-Ray high-definition player of choice to many people and, with free online services such as PSN also available, Sony is in a stronger position than ever with the PS3 as newer and more high-profile games begin to appear.

The problem of course is that a third controller appearing on the market may confuse audiences and create a tiered market where some games aren't fully playable without the break-away controller. Would that worry you? Let us know in the forums.

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sotu1 16th June 2008, 13:01 Quote
Sony: still desperate to imitate the wii and steal market share.
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 13:07 Quote
Next they'll be making it smaller, white.. removing Blu-Ray support and calling it the Playstation Wii.
Paradigm Shifter 16th June 2008, 13:08 Quote
I didn't find myself missing rumble as much as I thought I would with the Sixaxis... but the motion sensing was too fiddly to use; I used it for about five minutes in each game that supported it, then turned it off. Still, dual motion sensing presents more interesting possibilities - I just hope it's better executed than last time...
mmorgue 16th June 2008, 13:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
Sony: still desperate to imitate the wii and steal market share.

Because Sony are recognising the shift and acceptance by the gaming masses of new UI's means they're "desperate to imitate" the Wii? I think not. They're being "smart".

If they were keen to imitate the Wii then they'd create games geared for 10 year olds with shite graphics! LOL
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 13:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
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Originally Posted by sotu1
Sony: still desperate to imitate the wii and steal market share.

Because Sony are recognising the shift and acceptance by the gaming masses of new UI's means they're "desperate to imitate" the Wii? I think not. They're being "smart".

If they were keen to imitate the Wii then they'd create games geared for 10 year olds with shite graphics! LOL

Your first point was perfectly respectable.. Then you ruined it. The wii is a fine console (admittedly, I've not switched mine on for months).. the graphics are decent (considering hardware limitations), and the games are geared towards the masses, not 10 year olds. Nintendo makes inoffensive games, not kids games.
C0nKer 16th June 2008, 13:26 Quote
**smells upcoming fanboy argument.

Anyhow, it'd be weird holding one.

Console sales wise, I don't think they can steal anything from Ninty. Game enthusiasts and technophiles alike only make up a small portion of consumer population. The masses will still buy Wii, get bored with Wii Sports and leave it to collect dust. No matter how hard they try to imitate, I just don't see it happening.
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 13:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by C0nKer
**smells upcoming fanboy argument.

I'm not a fanboy, it's just that nintendo don't really get much representation in hardcore gaming communities, and I've always been a champion of the underdog.
mmorgue 16th June 2008, 13:31 Quote
Geared towards the masses, yes. Ok, i stand corrected on that point. But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64. Nothing on it makes me go, "wow". And compared to the other two biggies, the graphics just don't cut it. To me the Wii is still a novelty machine and not your typical gamer's machine, and that novelty wore off very soon after I bought it.

Hence why I LOL'd at the idea that Sony were trying to emulate the Wii :)

And no, I'm not a Fanboy of any console. All have their faults.
mctigger 16th June 2008, 14:44 Quote
a third one?? it would be nice to get the dualshock 3 here in the uk first!!!
DXR_13KE 16th June 2008, 15:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

OT:
.....and yet another controller for the damn thing....
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 16:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

Indeed, I think the fact that an N64 (unaided by an expansion pack) couldn't even render decent res textures without big frame rate hits (not to mention the low res rendering (often less than 480i), the extremely low poly count, the lack of any real lighting effects, lack of dynamic shadowing etc.) suggests to me that the Wii is vastly more powerful.
Bursar 16th June 2008, 16:21 Quote
From Kotaku:
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An anonymous industry source has told Kotaku that reports of a "break-apart" motion controller for the PlayStation 3 that splits into two parts are not entirely accurate.

The control system, said the source, actually consists of a smaller-sized device that can attach to the body - and multiple devices are intended to be used in concert, such as wearing two on the hands to move a character's hands in-game, or four, on hands and feet at the same time to move a character's body.

Though the source admits the technology might have evolved since the last time it was seen, the source disputes the idea that any of these pieces merge to form a single controller. It is also unclear how the individual pieces will be packaged, whether individually or in sets.

Sony declined to comment on "speculation."
devdevil85 16th June 2008, 16:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

Indeed, I think the fact that an N64 (unaided by an expansion pack) couldn't even render decent res textures without big frame rate hits (not to mention the low res rendering (often less than 480i), the extremely low poly count, the lack of any real lighting effects, lack of dynamic shadowing etc.) suggests to me that the Wii is vastly more powerful.
IMO, it's like comparing a 1.3L V4 to a "more powerful" 1.4L V4. The Wii's graphics suck, period. I've played over 6 games on it and the graphics are again, 480p. 480p = the suck on 32"+ HDTV's. Does that make games unplayable? Hell no. I just don't think you can consider the graphics of the Wii to be that much better than the Gamecube.
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 16:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by devdevil85
IMO, it's like comparing a 1.3L V4 to a "more powerful" 1.4L V4. The Wii's graphics suck, period. I've played over 6 games on it and the graphics are again, 480p. 480p = the suck on 32"+ HDTV's. Does that make games unplayable? Hell no. I just don't think you can consider the graphics of the Wii to be that much better than the Gamecube.

True, the Wii is essentially a Gamecube with basic bumpmapping... Regardless, we were comparing the N64 and the Wii, between which there is a far greater contrast.
bahgger 16th June 2008, 16:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
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Originally Posted by sotu1
Sony: still desperate to imitate the wii and steal market share.

Because Sony are recognising the shift and acceptance by the gaming masses of new UI's means they're "desperate to imitate" the Wii? I think not. They're being "smart".

If they were keen to imitate the Wii then they'd create games geared for 10 year olds with shite graphics! LOL

Your first point was perfectly respectable.. Then you ruined it. The wii is a fine console (admittedly, I've not switched mine on for months).. the graphics are decent (considering hardware limitations), and the games are geared towards the masses, not 10 year olds. Nintendo makes inoffensive games, not kids games.

Ghost Squad - inoffensive??

Knife to the neck, inoffensive??

But no, I love my Wii ^-^

I'd love to have a PS3 and Xbox too though, for their respectable original content
CardJoe 16th June 2008, 16:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

OT:
.....and yet another controller for the damn thing....

Pre-rendered backgrounds don't help anyones arguements.
E.E.L. Ambiense 16th June 2008, 16:50 Quote
Collapsible controller, huh? So, it'll be like gaming with a fortune cookie; it'll crumble in your hands? :D
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 16:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

OT:
.....and yet another controller for the damn thing....

Pre-rendered backgrounds don't help anyones arguements.

Neither does making outlandish comparisons between two consoles released over 10 years apart. It's like saying the SNES has the marginally better graphics than an Atari.
devdevil85 16th June 2008, 16:59 Quote
It's funny how when N64 debuted, it was the most "advanced" console on the market. Now, the Wii is the most "loveable".
Bursar 16th June 2008, 17:16 Quote
Way to turn a thread about a Sony controller into a Wii graphics bashfest!
mikeuk2004 16th June 2008, 17:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by E.E.L. Ambiense
Collapsible controller, huh? So, it'll be like gaming with a fortune cookie; it'll crumble in your hands? :D

lol

Seriously thoujgh, where is the Dual Shock 3 controller? I thought it would have been here for MGS4 release. I guess im going to have to get one imported before I get MGS4.
E.E.L. Ambiense 16th June 2008, 17:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by mikeuk2004
lol

Seriously thoujgh, where is the Dual Shock 3 controller? I thought it would have been here for MGS4 release. I guess im going to have to get one imported before I get MGS4.

I know they're out here. Not sure about UK release though.
sjhujh 16th June 2008, 17:57 Quote
Resi 4 doesn't have pre rendered background's like the previous ones - just a statement so don't start jumping down my throat, its sore already (damn cold)

As for graphics, I personally believe that the graphics and graphical power of the Wii are perfectly balanced towards to the market it is aimed at, admittedly less hardcore gamers, but not solely casual gamers. The type of games that are released on the console reflect this, not just games for 10 year olds, e.g Okami, Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes, Metroid 3, but also more party-esque games like raving rabbids & mario Kart Wii.

They might not have crysis like cutting edge graphics but each holds their own making the Wii a worthy buy for anyone that wants one... galaxy in my eyes is one of the most visually interesting and charming games i've played since Twilight Princess and Mario Sunshine Before that.

I do own a pretty well spec'd PC and have played Crysis etc. so i can see where the argument comes from that the Wii is low on graphics power and not truly next gen. But then if you enjoy the game who really cares...?
C0nKer 16th June 2008, 19:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
I'm not a fanboy, it's just that nintendo don't really get much representation in hardcore gaming communities, and I've always been a champion of the underdog.

My bad. I didn't mean to aim at anyone, and especially not you. Believe it or not, I am much more fond of Ninty stuff, much much more than the people around me who only knows PS/PS2/PS3. Kinda sad. All the games I play, I don't get to share the experience with anyone.
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Originally Posted by sjhujh
They might not have crysis like cutting edge graphics but each holds their own making the Wii a worthy buy for anyone that wants one... galaxy in my eyes is one of the most visually interesting and charming games i've played since Twilight Princess and Mario Sunshine Before that.

I find Wind Waker to be much more charming than any other games I've played thus far. I just wish I have a Wii to play SSB Brawl on with toon Link unlocked.

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
True, the Wii is essentially a Gamecube with basic bumpmapping... Regardless, we were comparing the N64 and the Wii, between which there is a far greater contrast.

Didn't GameCube have basic bumb mapping already? I'm quite sure it had already been used in Rogue Leader, along with other texture maps and even some volumetric fog. Unfortunately, no other games after that actually make any use of em, with the exception of Rebel Strike.


Seriously, the Wii could've been a winner in a different sense if it packs the same power as the PS3 or Xbox360. But I might be wrong, since the sheer popularity of the PlayStation brand name is staggering (and admittedly it gets on my nerve because hardly anyone around me knows anything else).
proxess 16th June 2008, 20:56 Quote
PS3 does.not.have.anti.aliasing.
Timmy_the_tortoise 16th June 2008, 23:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
PS3 does.not.have.anti.aliasing.

Yes it does.. It's just rubbish anti aliasing.
Mentai 17th June 2008, 01:13 Quote
The wii never really hit it off for me. Admitidly, I only clocked mario galaxy on it, and it was on a 42" plasma with standard AV cables so the image was shite (especially when playing a game at 720p on 360 afterwards). Personally I found the control scheme for galaxy to be just gimicky... I mean, other than the collection of stars with the pointer, there's nothing they couldn't have done with much the same effect on a gcube controller. In the end I thought mario sunshine was more fun. Oh and I would rather play a game styled like wind waker than crysis as well, though both have their place.

In terms of the PS3 controller, it sounds interesting (especially that snippet from kotaku), however I wonder if they're splitting their market too much. Standard dual shock is fine for me.
Matticus 17th June 2008, 01:27 Quote
Well for a start, the controller idea seems a bit silly to me. I can't imagine many PS3 games will lend themselves to this.

But my main reason to both posting, whats with this Wii has rubbish graphics BS. Yes the graphics are not great, but neither are the graphics on my phone.
My phone, made for taking basic pics, recording basic video, calls, text, music, crappy java games.
PS3, made for a certain type of games, many say hardcore or enthusiast games.
Wii, made for family friendly multiplayer games that get you off your arse. If nintendo had intended to compete with the PS3 and the 360 in terms of graphics, they would have done, they would have failed...but thats not the point.
And actually they aren't bad considering the hardware on offer, I played the transformers game and I didn't question the graphics at all. Sure I wasn't impressed, but they wern't bad enough for me to notice them. I was mainly noticing the way that I should not be playing this game, let along trying it on the wii.
Sebbo 17th June 2008, 04:05 Quote
collapsable controller, or break-apart controller (as some other sites are saying)? also, don't Nintendo have patents both on the break-apart controller and/or the nunchuku designs?
anyway, seems mostly like the next stage in sony's "we have that too" campaign (six-axis, avatars, trophies/achievements, downloadable games from their previous consoles...)
DXR_13KE 17th June 2008, 12:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmorgue
But the graphics are, let's be honest, only marginally better than the N64.
:|
are you sure?

http://c.cubemovies.ign.com/cube/video/residentevil_041502_4.mov

and the above video is from a gamecube... the wii is almost 2 times more powerful than it.....

OT:
.....and yet another controller for the damn thing....

Pre-rendered backgrounds don't help anyones arguements.

try doing that with the N64.....
DannyDirect 18th June 2008, 10:41 Quote
I have just had the best idea to date, how about just buying which ever console you like and shutting the **** up about it lol, or even better, learn how to build a half decent PC.
Veles 18th June 2008, 12:26 Quote
This is a step in the right direction for motion sensing, I found having to hold a motion sensor in both hand was really awkward and made me look like a spaz.
ParaHelix.org 19th June 2008, 18:50 Quote
Okay Sony, here are the facts:

1. If you have a PS3 you set it up in one place, infront of one TV.
2. No need for fortune cookie controllers.
3. There is no need for a collapsible controller.
4. There is no need for a collapsible controller.
5. There is no need for a collapsible controller.
6. There is no need for a collapsible controller.
7. There is no need for a collapsible controller.
ParaHelix.org 19th June 2008, 18:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyDirect
I have just had the best idea to date, how about just buying which ever console you like and shutting the **** up about it lol, or even better, learn how to build a half decent PC.

Perfectly put, well done :P
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