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Nvidia introduces GeForce 9600 GSO

Nvidia introduces GeForce 9600 GSO

Nvidia's GeForce 8800 GS has been given a new cooler and that warrants a change of name. It's now the GeForce 9600 GSO.

Nvidia has quietly introduced another new member in the GeForce 9-series called the GeForce 9600 GSO.

We've been pretty hard on Nvidia in some respects because, while there hasn't been a lot wrong with the GeForce 9-series cards that have been launched so far, they haven't exactly been groundbreaking.

The GeForce 9600 GSO sadly doesn't change things, as this particular card's specifications look strangely similar to a card that the graphics giant launched at the start of the year. Yes, we're talking about the GeForce 8800 GS.

When the GeForce 8800 GS originally launched, it featured 96 stream processors, a 550MHz core speed, while the shaders and memory were clocked at 1,375MHz and 1,600MHz respectively. The card also sported a 192-bit memory interface and 384MB of onboard memory.

And guess what, the GeForce 9600 GSO sports exactly the same specifications and, from the looks of things, all that has changed is the cooler – the card now looks more like a GeForce 9600 GT.

We're probably not going to be covering the card's performance in a full review, because we've already compared it to the GeForce 9600 GT and its many competitors in the mainstream market when the GeForce 9600 GT launched. Nvidia doesn't delve into the details of what chip is used on the card, but considering everything else matches the GeForce 8800 GS's specification to the latter, it wouldn't be wrong to assume that it's based on G92.

Pricing is expected to be around the same mark as the current GeForce 8800 GS (I'd be annoyed if it increased, put it that way), so expect GeForce 9600 GSO cards to start at around £75-80 (inc. VAT).

Do you think this is a bit of a shrewd move by Nvidia rename the GeForce 8800 GS in order to sell those G92 dies that don't meet the grade for the GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 8800 GTS 512, GeForce 9800 GTX and GeForce 9800 GX2? Share your thoughts with us in the forums.

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Brett89 29th April 2008, 16:38 Quote
I think this market really needs more competition now, this is just downright stupid. Please ATi.
lewchenko 29th April 2008, 16:43 Quote
I personally hate the way Nvidia relables old products with a modern version label to make it appear to be faster and more modern. I think they should state on the box - NO FASTER than an 8800 GSO.

But I also hate the way they release *new* technology series which are actually SLOWER than some of the previous generation versions.

Remember all those poor schmucks who bought the 7300 series card instead of a fast 6800 card. Yeah, they only have themselves to blame but Nvidia is taking advantage in these situations.

Atleast when it comes to processors, you can be relatively successfull if assuming one generation will be faster than the previous. I say relatively... because there are a few exceptions to that rule as well (e.g. when the first P4's came out!).. But generally speaking a 3800 CPU is less than 4400 is less than a 6000 X2 for example. Pretty much the same thing for intel CPU's as well.

Nvidia gets away with it every time, despite mass condemnation.
TreeDude 29th April 2008, 17:48 Quote
The video card market has just gone to hell. The prices are great but there has been zero innovation in the past year or so. Too many cards getting rebranded into a new series. Both ATI and Nvidia are doing this and is sucks big time.

I still like my 3870 though...
Glider 29th April 2008, 17:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by lewchenko
But I also hate the way they release *new* technology series which are actually SLOWER than some of the previous generation versions.

I disagree.. A budget series 9xxx can be slower then a top of the line series 8xxx and still be newer without any problem IMHO.
Gunsmith 29th April 2008, 18:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Glider
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Originally Posted by lewchenko
But I also hate the way they release *new* technology series which are actually SLOWER than some of the previous generation versions.

I disagree.. A budget series 9xxx can be slower then a top of the line series 8xxx and still be newer without any problem IMHO.

lol, errr no
Naberius 29th April 2008, 18:11 Quote
The only thing that is important to me is that each level of card is faster than its predecessor.

For example the 9800GTX is faster than the 8800GTX.

It would be a big ask for every model in the new range to be faster than the highest performing card in the old range.

The idea of changing a cooler and then re-branding the card as something new is ridiculous though, there is enough intelligent people on this planet to figure out that the only thing that has changed is one digit in the model number and the cooler.
devdevil85 29th April 2008, 18:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Naberius
It would be a big ask for every model in the new range to be faster than the highest performing card in the old range.
very true....that would actually require innovation....
Vash-HT 29th April 2008, 18:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by lewchenko


But I also hate the way they release *new* technology series which are actually SLOWER than some of the previous generation versions.
.

Uh both companies do this with every generation of cards.....name one series where the lowest end of the new gen was faster than the highest end of the old gen, I'm pretty positive it has never been that way for Nvidia OR Ati..
Tyinsar 29th April 2008, 18:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Article
... matches the GeForce 8800 GS's specification to the latter, ...
I think you put in the wrong letter (latter/ledder/later/looter/ok, now I've gone off on a ribbit trail again :o)

On one hand it's silly to have the same product under 2 names. On the other it removes some of the mess from the confusing 8800 series.
Burnout21 29th April 2008, 19:07 Quote
*cough* buy a 8800GTX and be done with it.

Nvidia should be shot for this piece of marketing, i feel sorry for all those noobs!
pistol_pete 29th April 2008, 19:07 Quote
GS-'O'

What is special about the O? What does it offer over a standard GS? Huh huh huh?
badders 29th April 2008, 19:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by pistol_pete
GS-'O'

What is special about the O? What does it offer over a standard GS? Huh huh huh?

It stands for "OMG I GOT A 9-SERIES N00BS! I PWN YORE 8800GS!!!!1oneoneeleventy"

:)
Tyinsar 29th April 2008, 20:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by badders
It stands for "OMG I GOT A 9-SERIES N00BS! I PWN YORE 8800GS!!!!1oneoneeleventy"

:)
:)

So next the 512 8800GT becomes the 9600GTO?
Mentai 29th April 2008, 21:39 Quote
Maybe a 9700GT? Or a plain old 9800?
I never got why they only use 6 and 8 in their series, it would have taken some confusion from the GTS series if they just added more numbers.
DXR_13KE 29th April 2008, 21:40 Quote
i only want AMD/ATI to wake the f*** up...... this is becoming very boring....
Brett89 29th April 2008, 21:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by pistol_pete
GS-'O'

What is special about the O? What does it offer over a standard GS? Huh huh huh?

It's because MOOOOAAARRRR LETTERZZ = more power.
Tyinsar 29th April 2008, 22:12 Quote
I really wonder how this compares to my 9600AIW Pro? :)
Glider 29th April 2008, 23:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
lol, errr no

Errr, yes... there's more then brute speed... Power efficiency for instance...
The_Beast 30th April 2008, 00:02 Quote
that's Omazing

:)
MiNiMaL_FuSS 30th April 2008, 09:42 Quote
im just annoyed that they were allowed to name a 9*00 range at all, i mean the old ATI9800pro was probably the single most popular card ever and remained king for a huge amount of time compared to modern cards........I feel nvidia r trading off of that name now.
Bauul 30th April 2008, 10:39 Quote
I still think if you did a price per graphical horsepower test between the ATI 9800 and the nVidia 9800 ATI would (theoretically) win, given you can pick up an ATI 9800 for about £4 nowadays.
p3n 30th April 2008, 10:40 Quote
Its looking more and more like the next PC I build will be built not when I can afford it but when nvidia or someone makes it actually worth it... I feel sorry for all the schmucks who 'upgraded' from a 8800 gtx to the 9800 gx2, all they got was 1/2 fps and a higher electricity bill!
dragontail 30th April 2008, 11:08 Quote
Nvidia:
STOP RELEASING OLD CARDS WITH A NEW NAME!! THANK YOU AND GOOD DAY!!!1
docodine 1st May 2008, 07:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
I still think if you did a price per graphical horsepower test between the ATI 9800 and the nVidia 9800 ATI would (theoretically) win, given you can pick up an ATI 9800 for about £4 nowadays.

Someone should try running 20 ATI 9800s together. I want to see how it competes with the nVidia 9800.

This topic is pretty relevant.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=139006
ehiweb 4th May 2008, 14:55 Quote
it is another -stupid- nomenclature. It generate confusion
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