Scythe makes even bigger coolers

Author: Richard Swinburne
Published: 6th March 2008
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Scythe makes even bigger coolers

All your heatsink are belong to Scythe.

Not content with making the biggest in everything, Scythe has to make something even bigger – we may have seen the PR for the Orochi but until you see it and it’s optional 14cm in the flesh you can’t really appreciate how huge it really it. It has 10 copper heatpipes and the whole thing can passively cool up to a 100W CPU and with the additional truly silent 500RPM fan, it can cool anything, we were told.

That’s awesome, but what motherboards does this thing actually fit? Seeing it in action on a Gigabyte board it easily fits over the memory slots, but you have to make sure your case is wide enough to accommodate it. Since it essentially fills a large void – any case airflow is in effect, CPU heatsink airflow – whether it’s from side, front or rear case fans, or even the PSU fan.

When you think you’ve seen it all, the next case along has a concept heatsink with 20 heatpipes (10 in a “U” shape) and it was even bigger than the Orochi. We were told that this one could cool anything passively, and for the size – we’d expect so! While we never expect this to get to market it was certainly entertaining to see.



Scythe is also pondering about releasing its own chassis too. After working closely with some Germany case modders for consultancy, you might be able to buy Scythe cases in the future – at least you’ll know they be tested to fit the massive heatsinks!

Bigger, better, or just plain silly? Would you buy a Scythe case? Let us know your thoughts, in the forums.

Quote Kierax 6th March 2008, 11:38
My god...a silly side of me just wants that...badly...seriously..:D it looks awesome :D but I have to think even with a rear mounting plate it has to stress the motherboard?
Quote kenco_uk 6th March 2008, 11:40
lol

Crazy.
Quote specofdust 6th March 2008, 11:47
I thought we weren't allowed porn on bit-tech? :D
Quote naokaji 6th March 2008, 12:05
person a: bloody hell, I've just caried my 30 KG Computer upstairs...
person b: I told you, you should have bought an Aluminium Case.
person a: I did, but then I saw that new Scythe Cooler and coudn't resist.

Seriously though, those coolers might be good as a epeen expander, but if they will actually fit in a case is very questionable and with Certain coolers *cough* Thermalright *cough* getting pretty close to Watercooling it's questionable if there will be much of an improvement any more in Aircooling or if we are simply getting to a point where water is necessary to get a improvement.
Quote Kierax 6th March 2008, 12:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by naokaji
person a: bloody hell, I've just caried my 30 KG Computer upstairs...
person b: I told you, you should have bought an Aluminium Case.
person a: I did, but then I saw that new Scythe Cooler and coudn't resist.

Seriously though, those coolers might be good as a epeen expander, but if they will actually fit in a case is very questionable and with Certain coolers *cough* Thermalright *cough* getting pretty close to Watercooling it's questionable if there will be much of an improvement any more in Aircooling or if we are simply getting to a point where water is necessary to get a improvement.

Good point well made, I think Air Cooling also is sadly coming to an end in terms of the enthusiast area at least, home users will be happy with Air Cooled for ages to come yet.
Quote Veles 6th March 2008, 13:06
I don't think there's any reason for the average joe PC to be watercooled. Even some enthusiast PCs I struggle to believe really need watercooling sometimes.
Quote Xtrafresh 6th March 2008, 13:28
yup, water is a very nice e-peen tool, but with this aircooler even that last reason to go water falls away. Now the only real reason to watercool is that is just looks a whole lot better.

Kudos for this post, made me lol
Quote Mankz 6th March 2008, 13:37
That case looks quite nice
Quote Cupboard 6th March 2008, 14:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz.
That case looks quite nice

I don't like the look of the thing at the top behind the door - it looks like a row of 40mm fans

Did they say when the cooler might be released?

Edit: It looks like it will need a pole to hold it up!
Quote Redbeaver 6th March 2008, 14:31
screw the cooler (my TR 120e works perfectly fine, and if i need better ill go water than putting that monster and snap my mobo), but the case looks pretty darn fine!
Quote naokaji 6th March 2008, 14:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Veles
I don't think there's any reason for the average joe PC to be watercooled. Even some enthusiast PCs I struggle to believe really need watercooling sometimes.

I wasnt really saying you have to watercool, but referring to the dimnishing returns that kick in at a certain point in aircooling which make aircooling not the best option after a certain point, yes, it could mean watercooling, but it could also mean that hw manufacturers should find a way to reduce the heat output of components.
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 6th March 2008, 14:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtrafresh
yup, water is a very nice e-peen tool, but with this aircooler even that last reason to go water falls away. .

Its actualy the way around. If I have the choice between this and a watercooler. Then Ii would absolutly go watercooled. This 'thing' will probably rip the socket right from the motherboard including a part of the motherboars itself. It then will fall onto your 'very expensive' videocard, and rip this right off by the part that sits into the pci-e socket. Or worse, make some nice sparks flying around in your case. And what about a simple change of memory? You cant get to it because this 'thing' is blocking the whole top part of the motherboard.

This 'thing' is so useless its not even funy...
Quote Spaceraver 6th March 2008, 15:37
Ultimate HTPC cooler as far as i can see.. nothing less...
Quote Xtrafresh 6th March 2008, 15:52
Quote:
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
Its actualy the way around. If I have the choice between this and a watercooler. Then Ii would absolutly go watercooled. This 'thing' will probably rip the socket right from the motherboard including a part of the motherboars itself. It then will fall onto your 'very expensive' videocard, and rip this right off by the part that sits into the pci-e socket. Or worse, make some nice sparks flying around in your case. And what about a simple change of memory? You cant get to it because this 'thing' is blocking the whole top part of the motherboard.

This 'thing' is so useless its not even funy...
I agree to almost all your statements, apart from the fact that this thing is not funny! I think this idiotic contraption is hilarious.

And umm may i remind you that anyone with enough of a brain to open the box and install will also have the sense to build something in the way of support. It's a cooler, not the stampede from Jumanji

That's one thing i do miss in this cooler: some sort of a bracket at the far end, so we have a point where we can support the weight other then the mobo.
Quote Bindibadgi 6th March 2008, 17:54
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Originally Posted by specofdust
I thought we weren't allowed porn on bit-tech? :D

You want porn? There was a topless woman advertising Be Quiet on the front of their stand - he upper body was painted with their logo.

Bit tacky, and she wasn't too hot, but still, fun to see :D

I dont know when the Orochi will be released, Scythe didn't say - more of "when it's ready".
Quote Amon 6th March 2008, 18:34
I was talking about this with some friends and we all agreed that a brace kit needs to be included to attach the cooler to the chassis. We also agreed that it needs more fin surface area to justify its sheer volume.
Quote mrb_no1 6th March 2008, 18:44
people talk of these things being heavy, look at them, copper piping with extremely thin al sheeting to help disopate the heat. For that to be heavy you'd have to have trouble lifting your own mouse and i mean, how much of a stereotypical geek are you? if that is the case, get out side and do some exercise or some/a pressup in your room ffs.

My thoughts arent just plucked out of the air on this one, i own a scythe infinity, currently their biggest in the range and if that managed to break my mobo, i wouldnt be calling scythe, i'd be onto asus for selling me some piece 'o' crap mobo with no structural strength to be heard of.

I like the idea of the new heatsink, although it will only serve to create a better mean temp imo, as someone mentioned, current air heatsinks are that good. It would be like having 50 rads in a watercooling loop rather than 3 with fans, the idle wont stand to change much, but the load temps will probably only change by a degree. Furthering that line of thinking, with the green theme everywhere and processors becoming more efficient and less power hungry, even oc'ed cores, the need for such a massive sink is becoming less improtant.

peaec

fatman
Quote Veles 6th March 2008, 19:32
No, the fault is squarely on yourself, you overloaded your motherboard. A mobo is only a thin piece of plastic, you can't expect to put anything too heavy on this (and weighing in at 1kg this is incredibly heavy for a regular CPU heatsink). That's why things like the zalman superflower coolers said that to transport the case you had to remove the cooler otherwise you risk damaging the mobo. The main problem with this is diminishing returns, you can get plenty of other coolers that weigh a fraction of the scythe and are much smaller but the cooling won't be much worse.
Quote Primoz 6th March 2008, 20:21
Love the case, LOVE it.
Quote supermonkey 6th March 2008, 20:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrb_no1
people talk of these things being heavy, look at them, copper piping with extremely thin al sheeting to help disopate the heat. For that to be heavy you'd have to have trouble lifting your own mouse and i mean, how much of a stereotypical geek are you? if that is the case, get out side and do some exercise or some/a pressup in your room ffs.

My thoughts arent just plucked out of the air on this one, i own a scythe infinity, currently their biggest in the range and if that managed to break my mobo, i wouldnt be calling scythe, i'd be onto asus for selling me some piece 'o' crap mobo with no structural strength to be heard of.
Don't forget that the cooler's weight won't be as simple as X grams pulling straight down. As the heatsink gets bigger, the weight is placed farther and farther from the attachment point. Think of the heatsink as a lever, and the bracket as the fulcrum. The farther the weight moves out, the more it will pull on the bracket. Add in the additional forces incurred when moving a computer and you have the potential for a giant heatsink to damage the motherboard. I don't think it's entirely unfounded.

-monkey
Quote johnnyboy700 6th March 2008, 21:03
Sheesh, if they make this thing any bigger you could use it as a toast rack.
Quote mrb_no1 6th March 2008, 21:49
@supermonkey: i had forgotten my a level physics there, essentially a moment about a point, i see your point and agree with it totally. I still think the bracket on a high end mobo where this heatsink would probably end up should have a stronger bracket and plating where the heatsink would sit and surrounding parts to allow for it.

peace
Quote LordPyrinc 7th March 2008, 04:33
And how much performance increase does this massive porcupine of a heatsink actually give you? In six months or less, a faster performing processor will smoke your heavily quilled processor. What indeed is the point?
Quote Xir 7th March 2008, 09:12
...Still, good to see an option for those who want to go fanless (and Pumless) ;-)
As long as you don't carry it around.

I wonder why not to use the entire casedoor as a heatsink directly to the outside...just connected by (made movable) Heatpipes, so taking load off the Mobo and the need for caseventilation.

...actually that would be quite easy for a watercooled setup...maybe I shoud try and patent it :-D
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